bigkesh: Oga shut up,your team is leaking goals like the mouth of a 10month old baby,you are here telling us about one yeye beauty.....
I always tell those laliga fanatics that their league is full of 'werey' defenders. Why won't the likes of messi and Ronaldo be scoring over 40 goals in that league? Most teams in that league concentrate on offensive play while neglecting their poor defending. But they won't accept. I was looking for the 'best DM in the world' doing his pefect defensive work, but nowhere to be found. But raumdeuter and co will say without him barca is zero. One cant imagine what we will say barca will turn to, without messi then. Yeye people.
@sinizia, even if you open their brains and write real facts in capital letters with bright colours, put in there, they won't still be able to reason it out. Make you leave them in their delusions.
sinizia: When arguing, always have in mind every lie of yours would be exposed.
Busquets came into prominence in 2008/2009 all-conquering Barca side, and in that season, he was playing catch-up to Yaya. The only reason why Busquets even played in the DM for the final game was because of Abidal's dismissal in the 2nd leg of semi-final and Alvez injury prompting Pep to field Sylvinho at left-back, Yaya at CB, Puyol at RB and Busquets at DM. If not, he'd have been benched in preference to Yaya. So how on God's green earth did a rookie like Busquets still upcoming out-play a well-established DM, Yaya Toure? In 2008/2009, Busquets was still a rookie. He was never better than Yaya.
And i knew you were lying. Yaya later said the reason why he left, and it was because of Pep's bad relationship with him.
Since Pep never spoke on why he sold Yaya, we'd stick with the words of Yaya and NOT your imaginary reasons.
Also, you lied that Yaya was never disciplined and concentrated in his DM role at Barca, which is another hogwash. As a matter of fact, he was so defense-minded that he dropped into the defense. Here is the truth from another site which you quoted earlier showing Toure was disciplined at the DM role at Barca, even expressing shock on how Toure transformed to a box-to-box player on moving to City. Read and stop the lies against Toure.
May God bless you. Dayo is a born liar. Only a f00l will swallow his delusional views as regards busquet being a better Dm to yaya in 2009. I want someone to kick that m0f0 pep guardiola a,zz. Muller could nt do the needful last time and dejong missed the opportunity last week, Ronaldo could only shove the id,iot. I look forward to vidal head-butting that fvcktard's nose on training ground.
Nihilist: Personally I believe that this has been a more reasonable debate than the usual Hazard vs Neymar etc nonsense, but to avoid further derailment, I will exit now.
chic2pimp, raumdeuter, sinizia, sircumalot, and airmark. I thank you all for your opinions. I'm out.
You argue very brilliantly with convincing facts. Only senseless football lover will call Sergio busquets as the world best DM as raumdeuter and others have been claiming. He even said dejong was bought to cover for yaya toure , when we all know yaya met dejong in man city. imagine? . Even true barca fans rated yaya toure above busquets in his last season at barca as DM. If I give dayo serious Dm training as he is now for 6 months with serious flogging with cain, give him Spanish nationalty with 'que' added to his name, Dayoque, he would play more than that pussyquets for barca. No need to drag it again. Only an Igbo-smoking coach will drop yaya for that diver in 2009 as DM.
raumdeuter: Barca sold him brought a rookie into his position to show he failed at his role in barca
And he stated the way Barca plays and how different it is from his own outlook to the game
A player who wants to join attack and defence as the spirit leads
Football is evolving, nowadays you see full backs making attacking runs, but because your diver lacks attacking skills he would stay glued at one place like London Pakistani man watching over groceries.
sinizia: You still haven't shown me in your write-up where either Barca or Yaya said "Yaya was sold because ...blah blah blah." He explained his roles for both clubs in those lines, he NEVER said why Barca sold him in those words.
He was taking you for a f00l, not knowing you are more brilliant than him.
Nihilist: If the link above me is true, and Modric was voted the best Defensive Midfielder in la liga last season, then it makes my point very well for me.
That you can be rated highly as a DM based on your offensive and passing prowess, and not your actual defensive ability.
Before nko, no team put a stagnant , lazy a.zz diver as DM anymore. That's why Sergio busquit has not won it. His type should be playing for ranchers bees.
raumdeuter: Is it that hard to produce a link where LPB awards best Defensive midfielders. You said Busquets has never won the La liga best defensive midfieder award which means their is such award.
Now put up or shut up
keep shifting post, just last year, Modric was also voted best dm and your world best DM , pussyquets has been in laliga since 2009, never won it. Confirm it in the link below. Mr link.
raumdeuter: A first-choice for club and country, Busquets' predominant role is to maintain his position behind Xavi Hernandez and Andres Iniesta, dispossess the opposition and pass the ball to his more creative teammates. A penchant for overreacting to fouls can infuriate the opposition, but this does not diminish his overall contribution. A product of the club’s La Masia youth academy and one of the best holding midfielders in the world, Busquets is the master of the simple pass
Debroslink: Busquets is one of the main reasons Barcelona concede the fewest number of goals in Europe.
You should be analyzing snake and ladder game not soccer. Have you heard the slogan " Attack is the best form of defence" before? That's what have been working for barca over the years. They have the best offensive play and retain ball more than anyone. So opponents have little chances of going all out to attack them. Please watch video below:
raumdeuter: I am not responsible for what you understand
Yaya's poor defensive midfield attribute is what made all coaches to move him away from the position
Under which coach has he played DM, Pep chased him away, Mancini didn't play him there, Pellegrini didn't play him there
yet he is a good and the best defensive midfielder
The best defensive midfielder who doesn't even play the position
It would be asking for too much to expect someone who thinks a player he calls the best DM who hasnt even play DM for over 6yrs to understand basic English. Someone who thinks a deep lying playmaker is a DM
Manuel Neuer is the best right winger, only that he hasnt payed that position.
Pirlo is the best attcking midfielder only that his coaches havent played him there for over a decade
First act responsibly by apologizing for telling lie that dejong was bought because yaya toure could nt play DM. For once accept you are a crook. You were not following these players that's why you give ridiculous opinions too. You can read responses of sensible people in graphics below. Meanwhile everyone knows yaya is not playing dm again at man city, that's not my argument. My argument with you was that Sergio busquet was not better than yaya toure in 2009/2010 when yaya was a DM and pushed out. It's as simple as that. He was booted out because of nepotism and I gave video evidence of his performances. Also LFB rated yaya above your busquets that same year. I hope you can understand now and stop shouting busquet was better .
raumdeuter: Yaya was a terrible defensive midfielder who lacks discipline and positioning which is why Barça chased him away when he got to city he couldn't still play DM rather they had to buy Dejong Fernando Fernandinho just to cover his indiscipline
Though I knew you are always stvpid analyzing soccer technicalities, but what amazes me most are the lies you always add to beautify your stvpidity. Only gullible ones can be deceived by your thrashes. So to you Yaya toure came to man city before Nigel dejong? I feel like hammering a six inches nail into that your dumb skull. That was how you m0f0s would be talking rubbish up and down claiming good soccer knowledge. lordfalcao,chelseafan1 come and see this nincompoop Dayo ooo . He should just stick to his yeye bundesliga.
Meanwhile below is Yaya toure against real Madrid in his last season at barca playing as a DM in el classico match. Let me remind you f00l that this last season , he was awarded by LFP as the 3rd best Defensive midfielder in Laliga. Sergio pussyquets was nowhere to be found, may be learning new diving tricks. Up till now, for 6 years playing for barca, laliga has never awarded busquit the award of best DM, because he has never been the best DM in Spain.
Ibime: At your age I already had First Class honours to my name, whilst you are busy struggling with National Open University Nigeria after failing to meet JAMB cut off.
That I am older than you is only of relevance if you have achieved anything in life in comparison to me.
Wetin concern my age with the fact that you are still writing NOUN degree while hanging out at Warribloods barber shop in Area? I never did that at your age dumbo. Keep it up.
Omo see punchlines for sports section Ibime, truth be told you be agbaya ooo.
Debroslink: Honestly speaking, I don't care about Mikel
The fact that you didn't quote my case on Busquets shows that you are what Yoruba people call "olote".
You don't care about mikel, but you cared to write his name besides the 4th time African best player , gunning for his 5th, on the same line? That reek assailed everyone's nose.
Olote bawo, i did nt quote your other stuffs on busquet because it lacked substance and i would be punishing my fingers replying that. Until Laliga LFP gives your Sergio biscuit best defensive midfielder award in spain, please don't quote me as regards the boring player.
Debroslink: Even in AFCON, Yaya was not as good as Mikel when they faced each other.
This define the wack level of your arguments. Yaya toure is the African best player 4th year running. May be mikel was doing another sports during those 4 years. Please don't quote me in asinine stuffs like this.
Chelseafan1: Obviously, but some persons were comparing both players on the Bayern thread last week
They don't play same role presently, but if he were to be Spanish he wouldn't be pushed out for that diver when he was Dm there. DMs don't play like a lazy a.s,s boring midfielder like Busquets these days. Only drunkards and racists would push Yaya out for that diver in 2009 as guardiola did. I wish de Jong bursted his nose last week with massive punch and send the m0f0 gasping for breath
Ibime: There are 10 defenders we could have bought for sub-£12m that would do a good job.
Aldeweireld was £11.5m Fabian Schaar was £5m Winston Reid was free Joe Gomez was £3.5m
Needing defenders is no licence for mumulity.
Can you explain the logic in selling Ryan Bertrand for £10m and buying one fresh-out-of-Ghana boy with VAT on his age for £21m? Even Jordan Obita would do a good job at left-back for £5m.
Even as things stand, if we make no signings, Nathan Ake and Christensen would provide enough depth.
Believe you me, stregthening the centre-back is not Jose's idea. He keeps complaining about it codedly even. It is that slimy Technical Director pulling the strings this transfer window.
I understand your line of argument, but you can't take away the fact stones and rahman look more matured and tested in top games compared to majority of players you suggested. I believe every team up their price tag once Chelsea comes knocking. Ake can't be relied on, especially big games. Though I will prefer we look for a cheaper left back and stones is a good buy at 30m, 100k / week for me. He is very athletic and strong like cahill.
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