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thorrvik55:
So airmark was right I guess...

U sidestepped the foolish post

airmark show o, Baba dey dodge ur post d way flash dey use dodge bullet

Shameless apari.

chic2pimp:
What would a tour around Aba and Okrika market achieve? More tales by moonlight stories?

Ask Griffon, he is offering that, not me. Are you not the one expected to be on a fact-finding mission?

gensteejay:
You mean I should start listing out the names of harmful plants around that contain toxic chemicals, like arsenic oxide, benzene, and co., like an herbalist just to win an argument? Lol. I guess I have to start from the basics of chemistry then, explaining what benzene, arsenic, etc. are and how they cause harm to the brain or body.

You don't need to list all, the one you have used before, tell me the name, where to buy it and show us the video evidence of someone they hit with the herb-infected ring that started eating grass. Easy.

gensteejay:
He can send my name, gensteejay, to the witches in Edo if he wants. Only someone that believes in such nonsense gets affected.

Genteejay is not your name, give him your real name, mother and father's name, birth date, you will be networked.

gensteejay:
I thought I was discussing with a science-savvy person. Let's close this chapter.

Science-savvy my foot, you think Dr. Olukoya is a tradomedical doctor or what?

Close which chapter, when you have not made yourself available for juju test in Aba.

I assure you, there won't be any cut or piercing to your body. So, don't be afraid of those toxic/poisonous nonsense you read about. Na 'touch and chop grass' them go use for you, while we stream it to Dayo and chic2pimp to enjoy.

obainojazz:
I hope Makinde performs better... Ibadan got huge potential
My favorite city so far because of its people and lifestyle

Met the egbon like twice in Texas, he's very cool and brilliant.

I hope he won't be surrounded and misled by those Pdp thugs that were shut out for years.

gensteejay:
These are poisonous herbs, which are not jazz.

What is the name of these herbs? Have you used them before? Where can they be bought? Do you have the video evidence of efficacy or you were told by somebody?

If you can't provide expected answers to these questions, then i will ask Griffon to submit your name to higher places.

gensteejay:
If you want to show me the efficacy of juju, we will use the scientific approach, which involves no use of human specimen that's alive, no secrecy, and there must be proper documentation. We can, however, use rat or mouse as a specimen to demonstrate your experiment.

So the innocent rat or mouse who wasn't here when you were arguing blindly should be the one to suffer for your ignorance. No way, if you need flight ticket to go to Aba, let us know. You are our specimen.

I can't wait to see and upload the video of you looking for grasses to devour in Ariaria market.

gensteejay:
Can every person from Ijebu believe in the efficacy of jazz in a gullible manner or follow religions? I even know atheists that are from Ogun.

What do you think about Odoi starting matches ahead of Willian?

We're back again.

Let's cash out, before Man city bury united.

elrony:
It was a mistake quoting you, I wouldn't do it again.

I read his response to Griffon, i just weak and he claimed to be Ijebu.

Back to football, can you guys just settle for a draw today bro?

Griffon:
For further clarifications, I wouldn't mind if Dayo makes a short trip to Ohafia LGA of Abia State, I wouldn't mind devoting a whole week to giving him a tour around Aba and Obingwa LGA.

Raumdeuter, chic2pimp, gensteejay, here you have it.

Stop disturbing us with 'juju is not real' mantra again, please.

Griffon:
And there lies the problem. How do you two expect juju - a category of beliefs and practices considered separate from religion and science, to travel in tandem with logic?

Just as many believe that by praying to a supreme creator, good things will come their way, juju doesn't require a straightforward explanation for its potency. Just like religion, its practices defies logic.

You two have been clamouring for evidences, and here am I to tell you authoritatively that i've seen black magic become a credible cause for diseases, bad luck, sudden death, impotence and other such misfortunes, and these weren't stories passed to me by my forefathers.

Following the death of my mother, my family had to 'reach' for answers to her sudden demise. I've in the past heard of such things, but here was I firsthand, hearing my late mother's voice from a hiding, retelling of her death and who was behind it.

Naturally, this should have scared the shiat out of me but it didn't, why? Because im coming from a community whose cultural framework includes a black magic worldview.

See, where I come from, this thing you two are dropping big big grammers over is as common as drinking water and dropping your cup. Same way witchcraft practice seem more like a lifestyle in Edo State.

Here's a report of a native doctor who before his death warned his family not to invite a pastor to his funeral. Check for yourself what transpired on the day of the funeral: www.newsexpressngr.com/news/detail.php?news=5335&title=Pastor-drops-dead-while-conducting-funeral-of-herbalist-who-preferred-traditional(non-Christian)-burial%3Fpr=39109&lang=en, and this is just one report out of the gazillion reports out there.

See, where I come from, if you die while still being a witch, native doctor or a sorcerer, and some ritual rites aren't performed before your burial, the land will reject your corpse, and this happens in the form of your burial ground collapsing a day after you were lowered 6ft deep. I've seen this happen once.

Where I come from, native doctors are occasionally pitted against each other in a contest for supremacy. During this age long 'festival', cameras aren't permitted within the area neither are women and children allowed entrance into the scene. On that very day, all manner of black magics are displayed by these native doctors, and I tell you none of them agrees with logic. I mean, how do you explain a man who got decapitated reappearing from the backyard minutes later with his head intact with his body?

Where I come from, an uncle died just days after burning a coven. Prior to his demise, he was severely warned about carrying out his plans to clear the bush where witches were believed to hold meetings in the community, but man won't have any of that, he believed the God he worships can't let him down. Like they say, the rest was history.

Oga the day I realised that logic has no answers to these things, was the day I left my father's house and my community. It was the day I realised that its much better to die while striving to have ends meet in a foreign land than to be a victim to these things.

No allow small travel to America reset your brain about what we Africans are capable of doing.

As I type this, Ghana has become a stomping ground for every yahoo yahoo guy who intends to back his hustle up with the supernatural. My guy in Tema will tell me that native doctors over there in GH advertises their services even on national TVs, and dammit, boys are patronising them and dammit it works, albeit along with its consequences.

Devil dey, don't even argue it!

Trust Raumdeuter not to see this.

Next thing, he will come and type how Mbappe has bigger asss than Hazard.

gensteejay:
It turns out raumdeuter was right: Discussing this kind of issues with a dogmatic religionist is time-wasting.

Bros, keep believing all those fake stories peddled around involving use of pants for ritual and similar ones in the Bible about Moses parting the Red Sea with a rod.

After all, some adults still believe India beat 100 goals to 1 using jazz

Stop typing nonsense to trivialise this issue.

You failed to deal with an important proposal in my post.

Since juju isn't real to you, present yourself to be tested with one.

Are you ready?

thorrvik55:
cc : raumdeuter

He sidestepped it.

gensteejay:
You don't seem to understand the position of raumdeuter, and others like myself on this issue. For any claim of Voodoo potency to be taken as a fact, it has to be able to pass the test of scrutiny, test of logic, has to be backed by concrete evidence, and must be reproducible.

Our approach to this issue should be a scientific one, so hearsay and those tales of juju people narrate don't meet these criteria.

So far, nobody has been able to back their claims about the potency of juju with clear-cut evidence. Personally, I am looking for real accounts of juju potency so I can investigate them and maybe relate them to phenomena in the sciences, perhaps quantum physics or relativistic physics.

But I haven't made much progress about that because out of like 10 cases of juju that one hears, for example, 9 could be exaggerated or outright lies, and the remaining one that is not bogus might just be a scientific phenomenon, not yet fully understood by us, that needs further investigating.

In my spare time, I do research on paranormal/spiritual concepts, like teleportation, kanakoo in Yoruba (there are reports our forefathers used this juju or technique to cover long distances in short times), time travel, out-of-body experience (OOBE).

I follow research of scientists and parapsychologists on these aspects.

There are different accounts of people that narrate how all these extraordinary feats have been, or are being, achieved by people with voodoo. I am usually skeptical about such stories, unless I see verifiable proof.

I try to look at these things using a scientific approach so that if such powers exist in reality, they can be reproduced at will, anytime, the way we use technologies like phones, laptops, etc.

As an example: Teleportation, or what is called ofe in Yoruba, could be a phenomenon that is scientific in nature and we haven't yet fully understood it, which is why we call it a spiritual concept.

Some scientists have proposed the concepts of white hole and wormhole (or Einstein-Rosen Bridge) in relativistic physics to find a physical basis (explanation) for the occurrence of teleportation. A lot of research is still ongoing and needs to be done here.

Understanding how ofe occurs, scientifically, could help us travel to other planets faster and easier and aid time travel, just to mention few benefits of such technology.

I feel in the near future, scientists will record breakthroughs here.

By using the scientific approach to look at these things, one can separate plausible claims of extraordinary feats (juju), such as teleportation, time travel, OOBE or NDE from those ones that seem like exaggerations or far-fetched, such as stories about use of pants, humans, body parts for money ritual; witchcraft; illusions and tricks of magicians; and other common stories we regularly hear about.

Forget all this long story. Present yourself to be tested with aluwo( hit and fall amulet) or anosare( hit and run amulet). After they use those on you in the presence of your family members, you should come and type all this epistle again.

Dayo's position my foot.

Ask Dayo to challenge all those Ogbomosho babalawos to test theirs on him, when he comes home, then I will understand him.

He's the one who wants to confirm the efficacy then he should not be afraid of 'hit and chop grass' ring.

experttaiw:
How the mighty fall.

Sugar ! You killed many people here in Abk the likes of Bukky boy who you killed at fajol hotel during his born day celebration.

You killed AY fine boy too just to mention few.

I remember meeting you personally during your life time at the table tennis's centre in front of your shopping complex in oshiele, I likewise remember the DAy you called out my then gf in middle of the night to come sleep with you in your room.

Karma is real if this is true then I pray you rest in peace because you once turn into a cat just to escape the jungle justice of osiele people.

AY , Bukky boy jaku jaku don revenge for you.

Till we all meet again

Cat ke?

raumdeuter:
Yes because Neymar gave an assist vs Mexico

So between transfermrkt and Fifa, which should we accept as the truth?

raumdeuter:
[s]That is why God gave individuals their brains to use it. You are brainless thats why you depend on others to tell you what makes sense or not whether its your dad uncle segendinho elrony or baba in Ogbomoso

God did not tell you to depend on your dad or anyone to think
If your dad points to a pure caucasian and said that is your brother, while you are pure negro. How does it make sense?

Was it not the same way they fed you that India beat Nigeria 100-1?

If anyone tells you what doesnt make sense, then it doesnt make sense

If your the oldest priest in your village told you he jumped from empire state down and survived regardless of his age and status, if it doesnt make sense thats it[/s]

You went mute when Griffon posted, only to be foaming in the mouth now. When asked you to challenge your people in Ogbomosho when next you visit, you became dumb.

Once griffon comes online he will put you where you belong and pour dirts on your pandoro head.

raumdeuter:
Transfermarkt is my own source of truth and they are consistent across all leagues unlike other leagues who differ

For example the same Premierleague site in their fantasy section gave Sterling 13 assists

They also gave Neymar assist against Mexico, right? Ode.

raumdeuter:
You are extremely foolish and every intelligent person is laughing at you just the way Blueraydick is about to collapse from laughing at your foolishness

Lying or not has nothing to do with age

If you dont know smart and sensible people are laughing at you

Why do you believe elrony and segendinho but you dont believe if ibime said he ate raw snakes for the entire year in 2009 or I tell you that I jumped from empire state building unhurt or if eruditor said he trekked from California to Boston daily for classes

What a senseless post.

So all the stories your dad told you that happened before you were born, were lies, because it didnt happen in your presence, right?.

Griffon will give you your size, when he comes online, you disrespectful dolt.

larride:
PDP is leading with about 30k votes already. Though Oke-Ogun and Ogbomosho votes are been delayed.

Saki which has the biggest votes in Oke-Ogun has gone to PDP already. Unless massive rigging happens in Ogbomosho, PDP has won.

Ajimobi no try at all with him loose mouth. I really pity Adelabu, he would have been in contention for CBN governor in June when Emefiele tenure expires but man sacrifice that for politics.

So egbon Seyi may win?.

raumdeuter:
You are generally senseless. That is why you think female underwear will make one a millionaire

I am only interested in things people witnessed with their own eyes and can be reproduced with evidence

Someone told you reports from his dad, you called those lies.

Elrony witnessed it and segedinho confirmed he used at some points in his life, what did you make of those? You foolishly asked for video evidence. The only foolish person here, is you.

You should go to Ogbomosho and challenge them to test their juju on you, if you won't eat all the nearby grasses, for your foolishness.

raumdeuter:
If you can read properly, point to anything he wrote which he himself witnessed and was not stories

He wrote about his grandfather who died before he was probably born. Basic common sense will tell you all that is reported story

So since he didn't witness it, he should have called his dad, who reported the stories to him, a liar.

You are very stupid and Griffon must confirm this when next he logs in.

raumdeuter:
What about his revelation? Did he say anything different or give any evidence that jazz was real beyond what he heard from mouth of others?

You were not blind when he posted it and i tagged you.

Ask him your questions, not me.

Griffon:
Look well, all these brothers who're claiming juju doesn't exist are all coming from happy homes. We wey don suffer and battle wicked yet poor uncles understands better

My grandfather before his death in the early 80s was one man who was feared for his use of power gained from the control of evil spirits. Man literally gave necromancy his all, influencing the course of events in our town and ruling supremacy in his own little way. Such was the force of his scorcery, that thieves who came at night to break into his home will end up picking up brooms to have his compound swept till dawn. Man raised the standard of sorcery in my town.

My dad will tell us stories of how his father will lock himself up for days in a room which no one had access to. As creepy all of that seemed then, they knew there were more to that than meets the eye.

These things exists albeit to some limits. Libation, rituals, incantations etc aren't just for the fun of it. They work. Stories of otokoto, eddie n'nogu, okija etc back in the days were not just myths peddled by some ignorant fellows, there were evidences to prove men were damn into blood money and all that ish.

raumdeuter:
Lacazette got injured Belloti got injured

SHould we count the number of gols they have scored in the last 12 months?

Even people with Whitlow are injured to you.

Show me where Torino fans were cursing Belotti, your top 10 striker.

lordfalcao:
. We have known you to have no shame.

Tell us how many times belotti score in 2019 Vs how many lacazette scored let's know who will be laughed at

Torino fans and coaches are not cursing Belotti, cos they know his quality before he suffered injury. They are patiently waiting for him to return to his peak. Even raumdeuter once put him among his top 10 strikers.

Arsenal coach is not laughing with your Lacasera o.

raumdeuter:
Imagine o. Shey dem no do jazz against AK47 ni

I remember you and others kept quiet when i tagged you with Griffon's revelation, only to come and chat sh11t again now.

Only God is the supreme protector.

obainojazz:
I wanted to refer you to one of my post.. But my comments are hidden. Make I just mute. You will see some bad portions around that Nteje, igbariam axis.. Then you'll see smooth roads from one side I don't really know the name down to Amansi.. If I remember well, Amansi borders enugu... So it's like smooth from onitsha downnnnn... Then some bad parts(erosion here is also crazy Mehn)... Then smooth again
Next time you going there, follow old road if you are heading to awka... That road is smooth
I hope no be kofi club you dey go this man

I don't know the areas, but before we got to awka, it was very bad and majorly responsible for our spending close to two hours to reach Enugu.

Yes, we met eroded road before we got to Awka, and it was even the stretch from Awka to Enugu that was ok.

That road is a disgrace.

raumdeuter:
I am tired of Leyqutes lies, shapeshifting and amala stirring

Can you give the list of games Bayern lost in November 2018 with dates?

You, tired of someone's lies?

obainojazz:
wetin you dey find that side.. Don't tell me wifey is from Anambra

Mumu, focus on the road issue.

obainojazz:
Yes man.. When was the last time you visited

2yrs ago. I also visited in 2015.

Greatihex:
this was shared by "The Referee Forum" on facebook.

The background looks like Feyingbole comprehensive high school field in Ogbomosho.

This field will be suitable for Dayo to chop grass, after elrony hits him with a red devilish amulet to confirm the efficacy of Ogbomosho juju.