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Drenimarcus:
SAY NO MORE

These clowns don’t understand how advanced Russian EW is.

They didn’t even use any of their modern stuffs when the Ukraine confrontation started. But now, they’re just using about 5-10% of what they have and Ukraine has crumbled and NATO has started shitting its panties, lol.

Fear Ruskies - they’re a different breed whenever they decide to fight. Ask Napoleon and Hitler, lol.

Don’t poke the bear.

railone:
you guys said a lot more about Russia and how it can win Europe if not for America... Ukraine only and they are having logistics problem...

just one CSG can take out those bombers over the Pacific, no biggy just a normal payday work. Hell even the formidable MQ-9B sea guardian can get the job done.

It's just laughable and it shows those who have no clue about the military and warfare. Logistics problem is part and parcel of warfare and no military can avoid it during war hence no army goes through war unscath. The Nazis who were the greatest military force in human history with technology more advanced that their time lost WW2 due to logistics problems. Allied Forces during the highly overhyped and excessively celebrated Normandy landings in western history took disastrous losses due to logistics problems. So, having logistics problem during military maneuvers is as normal as being in the military itself - it's about how you regroup and mitigate against it, which the Russians have done during the 2nd phase of the war.

US also had a lot of logistics problems in Iraq and Afghanistan hence a lot of their regular forces and special forces were killed in ambushes. It's also the reason why insurgency was very effective against them in both countries. And these countries aren't on Ukraine's level. Iraq is half the size of Ukraine and it was already demilitarised with arms embargo for a decade since most of Iraqi weapons were of US origin (the US propped-up Sadam to fight Iran and turned on him after that). Almost all of Iraqi lethal weapons were grounded because they couldn't get parts due to US emgargo. So the US attacked when Iraq couldn't even fight and all of Sadam's generals and their troops didn't fight because they thought the US would give them power once they get rid of Saddam. And once that didn't happen - they started the insurgency that broke the US' back, hence people tend to call the Iraqi insurgency the real US-Iraq war. As for Afghanistan: the country had no military and they're basically tribal goat herding militias with AK47 and RPGs. Evidently, none of these two countries had any army, if we're being honest. Ukraine (the 2nd biggest country in Europe) on the other hand had the largest army in Europe (only 2nd to Russia before the war) that was trained for 8yrs by NATO and was supplied the most sophisticated weapons.

The logistics problems Russian forces faced during the initial phase of this campaign were actually exaggarated due to this being arguably the first global war that happened during the social media era where you can see everything in real time and a lot of it is also propaganda. Most of these logistics problems weren't even because the Russians were incompetent - it was mostly because they didn't go in with an intention to fight a war of attrition. They went in thinking Ukrainians wouldn't put up a fight and would try to save their cities. Then both can get to the negotiating table. Hence they invade with a smal number of combatants and kept matching without guarding their rear. And that's basically why those ambushes were successfully. However, since they moved on to phase 2 and put their feet down to fight - how come the exaggerated logistics problems disappeared?

LMAO @ CSG and MQ-9B like China and Russia don't have advanced EW that would jam those overrated interfaces. Small Iran captured a much more advanced US drone that's superior to MQ-9B, with EW, without breaking a sweat. Ever wondered why even American F-35 stopped going anywhere near Iran? Well, it's because Russia gave Iran radars that can detect them from far away and knock them out of the sky. Now, imagine what Russia and China would do to them. Some of you just throw out names without any understanding of what the other side has.

BTW, China just launched semi-submersible surface ships. Russia on the other hand has stealth Corvettes that are fully submersible - so they can go under water or act as surface ships. NATO countries including the US don't have those capabilities. And when it comes to EW - there's no match for Russia right now in the world. Something to ponder on apart from all the other advantages they have.

Drenimarcus:
Ukkies morale so low and down right now. The soldiers dont wanna fight no more and are surrendering en masse. Total capitulation. The Bear smells bloods and is going in the for the killing. Hungary, Poland and Romania lie in wait to take their pound of land from Ukraine. Total destruction and chaos right now!

Don’t poke the bear.

They did and the bear is now on a rampage, lol.

It’s over!

Appleyard:
Gaddamit!!! The Russian war tactics is irreplicable by any modern military power. They are doing all this with a huge number of their forces still located in Belarus apparently waiting for the Polish planned maneuver to happen towards the western parts of Ukraine. The way they easily trapped their opponents makes it difficult to have a successful ground war against the Red army, and this is why Pentagon is calling for a ceasefire. They knew Ukraine no longer stand a chance in this war, especially now that Russia is increasingly blinding NATO AWACS as such that is becoming more difficult to give the Ukies real-time Intel for accurate artillery and missile targeting. So it's not surprising that they are now talking of a diplomatic solution to the crisis. Ukraine is losing up to 500 men almost on daily basis.

Artillery, EW and reconnaissance drones.

Russian doctrine and use of artillery is second to none. Ukraine never had a chance from day 1. Russians just held back and played it soft from the beginning due to brotherly bond. But the gloves are off a bit now (now even fully off).

NATO needs to be very scared.

Toktee:
BREAKING NEWS: Retired Russian Air Force Major General shot down in Ukraine sky

Lol, like all the ones that got killed and rose up from the dead.

Another dead Russian general just received a medal yesterday in flesh in video. And the dead Chechen general is one of the commanders of Chechen forces in Lugansk right now, lol.

Trash propaganda nonsense.

Toktee:
And you think projection is reality?

What are you on about?

I saw it on a NATO military correspondent’s Twitter account! It’s not projection - it’s a fact.

Anyone with a brain with military background would understand that based on what’s happening on the battlefield - it’s the safest option if they don’t want to end up being massacred by artillery. They’re almost surrounded. The place is going to become another Mariupol by next week.

Dalil8:
Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

Joe Biden is a weakling. Times have changed, the U.S is no longer feared or respected on the global stage.

Biden isn’t a weakling - he’s just a face of the power brokers and powerful force that run the US - just like every other US president. It’s by design and US presidents are mostly controlled puppets. Obama also wasn’t the one running things when he was the US president.

It’s also a misconception that the US was feared by all. That’s just make-believe like Hollywood movies. Those who fear the US are European countries and 3rd world countries. Countries like Russia and China have never feared the US. The US just never really troubled them until now. And what they’re doing now is basically reacting to American threats on their borders.

People tend to forget the poor China was the one that did most of the fighting during the Korean War against the US and allied countries and the Chinese technically won that war (but it’s regarded as a stalemate officially). And that was the US at its peak militarily because it was vastly superior to every other country on earth militarily (save for the Soviet Union) and China at its lowest both militarily and economically. So why would a country that pulled that off fear the US? And Americans have always been weary of Russia because it inherited almost everything Americans feared about the Soviets.

Regardless, NATO needs to be really scared. No NATO country has fought a country as strong as Ukraine on the ground since the end of WW2. Fighting defenceless goat herders is different from fighting a formidable peer military that has a lot of support. And Russia is currently doing that with a fraction of its military (less than 10%) despite being outnumbered by 4:1 and they’re achieving results (despite initial setbacks) whilst rotating forces to get the needed frontline experience and tactical battlefield awareness. Combine that with the Chinese and US + NATO countries don’t stand a chance in a real shooting match.

DragonBear.

When the Russian bear meets the Chinese dragon - unstoppable alliance.

NATO is shitting its pants, lol.

Tmberwolf1:
If only you knew how evil China and Russia are to African countries, you'd keep quiet. The people you are praising are just as bad, if not worse than the people you are hating.

Stop drinking lazy propaganda kool-aid that dumb people down and start reading extensively and observing how the world works.

Admittedly, no country is perfect and there are no freebies out there because all countries look out for their own interests (the same way we all do as human beings in our everyday lives). However, in a crazy/racist unfair world that we’re in which was engineered by imperial/exploitative western countries based on their ideology of zero-sum game where it’s about winner takes all and survival of the fittest - when you see an opening for a symbiotic relationship with mutual benefits on a level-playing field - you have to grab with all your hands.

There’s a reason why all African leaders during the anti-colonial struggle embraced the Soviet Union over the west. And without the Soviet Union helping in defeating all the apartheid states in Southern Africa - all Southern African countries would be in the same predicament that Palestinians are in today. Hence those countries can never go against Russia and are forever thankful to them.

Russia for the most part wouldn’t really provide as much as China economically to African countries. However, militarily, food and technologically - it can help in a lot of ways. China became a technology giant by reverse engineering a lot of Russian technology and advancement in technology mostly come from military technology.

China for all its so-called “flaws” publicised in western propaganda has helped Africa more in the last 20yrs than western countries have done in 400yrs. And there’s a reason why the rise of China has fostered a bit of industrialisation and infrastructural development across Africa.

Now compare both to western countries’ slavery, colonisation, imperialism, pillaging, underdevelopment, utter destruction, etc., on the continent.

One thing I noticed during this war on Twitter is that apart from being very beautiful - Russian women are very intelligent, observant and are very good in mathematics.

Toktee:
source??

Saw it on a German pro-Ukrainian account on Twitter (will find the link).

If they don’t pull out - this is how Donbass will look like soon with tens of thousands of troops trapped in there:

Balogunodua:
Lyman is already occupied

All the roads lead to Bakhmut now.

Aviidka and Niiu York are also surrounded.

Once these are gone - it’s gonna be total chaos and collapse.

Lol.

Great news.

Nigeria and Senegal would be stupid not to take advantage of this opportunity.

The events in Ukraine created this silver-lining and once in a lifetime opportunity for strategic African countries to be in a position whereby they can take advantage of international relations, cooperation and business opportunities on equal footing - without being the exploited junior partners.

Hopefully, they’ll expand the largesse to Ethiopia and Algeria because both are strategic on the African continent. Kenya should get a shout but it’s a perpetual American puppet state.

Last week, I predicted that the Ukrainian army in the Donbass from will collapse in 2-3 weeks.

But it looks like it might happen faster than I predicted since Pentagon just ordered Kiev to pull out of Donbass to a much more defendable line along Dnipro-Kharkov line.

The last 3 days have been an utter failure for Ukrainians in Donbass and Russians have been conquering everything on their path and it looks like we might witness a total collapse of the Ukrainian army in Donbass in the next few day once the Russians take Aviidka, Niiu York and Bakmut.

When Russians lock in to fight and their artillery kicks off - no national on this planet can defeat on the ground. There’s a reason why Russians call artillery “the God of war”. That’s their doctrine.

Over one commando?

3 British SAS commandos were captured by Russian special forces in Donbass but MSM claimed they’re British NGO workers, lol. Which NGO workers stay behind enemy lines in a war zone especially when all foreigners have been evacuated from the country?

Enjoy this:

Over 15 American Navy SEAL 6 special forces killed by goat herders in Afghanistan:

The Costliest Day in SEAL Team Six History

Under cover of darkness on the night of August 6, 2011, a special ops team that included a group of U.S. Army Rangers began an assault on a Taliban compound in the village of Jaw-e-Mekh Zareen in the Tangi Valley. The firefight at the house went on for at least two hours, and the ground team called in reinforcements. As the Chinook CH-47 transport helicopter (call sign: Extortion 17) carrying 30 U.S. troops, seven Afghan commandos, an Afghan civilian interpreter and a U.S. military dog approached, the insurgents fired on the helicopter and it crashed to the ground, killing all aboard.

Of the 30 Americans killed, 22 were Navy personnel, and 17 were SEALs. These included two bomb specialists and 15 operators in the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU, or Team Six, the highly classified unit that conducted the raid that killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan the previous May. None of the operators killed in the Afghan helicopter crash had been involved in that mission, officials said. In addition to the SEALs, the others killed in the Chinook crash included five other Naval Special Warfare (NSW) personnel, three Air Force forward air controllers and five Army helicopter crewmembers.
https://www.history.com/.amp/news/the-costliest-day-in-seal-team-six-history

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That wasn’t the only incident in Afghanistan - there were other ones with heavy Navy SEAL and Delta casualties.

British SAS lost almost 10 men during a botched operation in Iraq, with only one survivor who managed to cross the border into Syria and was helped by Syrian military police.

omis1:
Russia can even fight the world and win yen yen yen,that’s why they have been struggled with there closest neighbor for months,just last week there latest tanks was destroyed in ukraine ,you can’t rant all you want and continue to live in ur own delusion but it doesn’t change d fact that no fears pootin and his overrated military again,they only have nuclear weapon to threaten d world and in a nuclear war ,we would all turn to nuclear fossil including ur darling Russia .
Pootin has been threatening that anybody that assist ukraine will feel d consequence yet d barking dog has not stepped his foot into Poland.
Usa lost some wars ,yes but they had to travel 4000 miles from there country while ur god can’t even defeat his neighboring country.
Nobody cares about the theat of baby beer pal,finland and Sweden has told him to suck it and they would join nato.
Less I forget ussr headed by Russia was destroyed and humiliated in Afghanistan also

Lol, another uneducated village square fallacy.

USSR went into Afghanistan to install a puppet government and the puppet government it installed outlived USSR by years even after it left. And USSR didn’t collapse due Afghanistan - it collapsed due to other internal issues and power struggles.

The US and NATO went into Afghanistan to do the same thing. Spent 20yrs and $3trillion, yet ran away with its tail between its legs and the puppet they installed was overthrown within 24hrs, lol. Now, that’s what utter failure and humiliation look like, lol. At least they gifted Taliban almost $100billion worth of modern American weapons, lol.

I’m done here. I only engaged you because I was on cross country train and I was bored. I already lost enough IQ - time to take a quick.

omis1:
There is no metric you can use to judge it. It doesn’t change d fact that Russia an overrated nuclear only super power can’t chat to most western countries and there allies,US/Uk citizens might leave there country but they are definitely not goin to a country like Russia ,it’s only poorer countries in Europe like ukraine. Who has d worst economy in Europe and am sure there are more Russians in uk/usa than there are uk/usa citizens in Russia ,even d Russia oligarchy has most of there family in this western countries.
Russia offers nothing to d world beyond overrated scraps they call weapons and crying western propaganda from today till infinity won’t change that

Well, that’s your village square uneducated understanding of what it’s going on.

If US and NATO think Russia can’t bite - they would’ve at least joined the war directly rather than keep sending billions of dollars in weapons. The US is always trigger happy to invade powerless countries and show its faux military might - why’s it hesitant this time and relying on propaganda war? Those at pentagon know better, lol.

I can list all US failures in Iraq and Afghanistan here and they’re more horrible than whatever Russia’s perceived failures in Ukraine are. And Russia is fighting a much more powerful country with endless access to billions of dollars worth of western weapons and the Russians are outnumbered by 3:1. American troops wouldn’t survive a month fighting the way Russian ground forces are fighting, trust me.

Russia isn’t even using its elite units in Ukraine apart from a BTG of VDV and SSO. The legendary 200 VDV paratroopers that captured Gostomel airport in Kiev and held it against 3 brigades of Ukrainian forces and hundreds of NATO special forces until other Russian troops arrived. And they never lost that airport and they all left voluntarily for Donbass. No unit in US military can pull that off and a lot of US vets on Twitter are still in awe of those guys.

Fear the Russian bear like Pentagon/NATO does, lol. Even without nuclear weapons (Russia can destroy all NATO countries in 30mins like the head of Russian space agency said) - NATO ground forces aren’t a match for Russian ground forces. The only advantage NATO has is with airforce. BTW, Russia captured 3 British SAS members two weeks ago around Dnipro and SAS are more elite than any special forces group in US military.

Leave the bear alone, lol.

omis1:
Pootin fan boys talk about western propaganda when they feed on Russia propaganda 24/7,Russia a country where the media is controlled by the government. Calling everything western propaganda doesn’t make u smart btw,it actually shows how retarded you are because wen same western media first said Russia would invade ukraine,pootin retards like you said it’s western propaganda till Russia finally invaded ukraine
If Russia is so great why are people not immigranting there?,check all your house devices,am sure u can’t even mention upto 2 gadgets produced by Russia

This is just typical of a poorly-educated dirt poor Nigerian with village mentality that judges how a country is thriving based on warped/uneducated knowledge of migration pattern.

Scandinavian countries are shining examples of how good a country should be run. However, why aren’t people migrating there in droves? Well, there’s something called “geography” and weather. Russia is similar to those countries in terms of weather. There are tons of South Americans, Europeans and Asians in Russia. I have also seen black Russians, mostly from central, east and South African countries. I’m sure there are also Nigerians in Russia since two Nigerians born and raised in Russia have played for the Nigerian football team. Heck, my grandad’s late brother went to Med School in Russia and married a Russian woman.

How you can truly judge is through emigration. And there are more Brits and Americans leaving the U.K. and US than there are Russians leaving Russia. There are more Brits who have migrated to Spain (they have a whole city to themselves in Southern Spain) due to weather than Spanish people who migrated to the UK. Does that mean Spain is better than the UK? That’s your idiotic and dumb logic, lol.

Yes, I know trash propaganda when I see it. The only time Russians left Russia en masse was when the western puppet, Yeltsin, was in power. And 90% of Russian diaspora in the west left during that period and a lot of them are returning to their country.

Your beloved western cannon fodder, Ukraine, had a population of 52million in 1991 but by 2021 the population reduced to 44million. 8million left the country for the west and Russia. The same is applicable to all the other western puppet states all over Eastern Europe. Russia doesn’t have that type of problem under Putin. So he’s doing something right based on that metric.

989900:
Fear who no fear illiteracy o!

Tell me more . . .

This illiterate village tool.

I’m more educated than your whole bloodline combined and I’m not even bragging.

When I talk, you listen.

texazzpete:
Which propaganda? you don’t have eyes to see maps? you didn’t see the Russian BTG slaughtered at the river crossing last week?





And yet the Russian deaths in three month are more than 3x the American deaths in 21 years of occupying Afghanistan. Or nearly half as much as the entire US losses in Vietnam.

And the Ukrainian counter-offensive never start




Putin has been finding small nations like Chechnya, Georgia and rag tag rebels in Syria.

He’s tried to swallow a country of 45 million people with a determined, motivated populace. And he’s getting his ass handed to him.

See how you’ve lost shame, talking about Donbas. As if the Russian invasion didn’t start with huge Columns heading to Kyiv. How come you aren’t mentioning their loss? Or the fact that they’ve been beaten away from Kharkiv? Or they’ve had to cancel plans for an amphibious assault on Odessa after sense told them it was a suicidal plan ?

You’ll see sha

Patience - by next month things will unfold.

We shall see. But as a betting man and a military vet - I’m betting on Donbass defences to collapse in 2-3wks.

Let’s talk about this in June.

omis1:
big boy my ass�,most of d money they generate from d resources is looted by the oligarchy,same Russia that pays less wages for workers than uk.
Russia is only super power cause of Nukes,you pootin fan boys can believe whatever you want too

Lol, the so-called “Oligarchs” parroted by western media were actually created by the west when they had access to Russia during Yeltsin and IMF/World Bank auctioned of most of Russian assets for a $1 each (figuratively) to pro-western puppets who’re mostly Russian Jews.

Funnily enough, most of these oligarchs were exiled from Russia with their properties seized by Putin and all the money they stole from Russia are hidden in western countries. And they all live in western countries.

Oligarchs aren’t even different from Billionaires in the west and oil sheikhs in the Middle East in the real scheme of things. Regardless, none of those running Russia today are oligarchs and the few oligarchs allowed back in Russia like Abramovich were allowed back because they’re giving back to the country in terms of investment.

Also, I don’t care about their wages there. Things are dirt cheap in Russia compared to the UK because they produce most of things they consume and their currency isn’t as high as UK’s currency. So it’s normal for them to pay less money. Minimum wage is also less in the US and all over Europe compared to the UK hence you’d see Poles, Romanians, et al doing slave labour in the UK but end up as rich people in their countries. I have been all over the US and Europe and things are relatively cheaper in those places compared to the U.K.

Anyway, most Russians who lived under western puppet Yeltsin are always grateful for what Putin has transformed Russia into. And that should tell you a lot.

Stop getting drunk on western propaganda - it makes you dumber than you’re (you’re already utter dumb - there’s no need to be dumber, lol).

989900:
The only problem here is, you don't have the education to distinguish between GDP Real, GDP nominal, GDP (PPP), and GDP per Capita.

This is why it's waste of time doing back and forth s with random folks online.

Q.E.D.

I’m more educated than everyone in your bloodline combined.

GDP real, GDP nominal, GDP (PPP), GDP per capita are all just academic crap that aren’t cognisant of a lot of other factors, including the country’s total debt profile. These things neither measure true wealth nor wealth distribution - they’re useful for business activity and the currency in circulation.

A country like America with huge GDP per capita and GDP (PPP) doesn’t really translate to the standard of living for the average American since the top 1% controls 90% of the wealth. And it’s the same for all countries in Europe, excluding Scandinavian countries.

Whichever GDP you picked - it’s still very flawed. The true wealth of a country is measured by resources in context of population size and self-sustainability.

Drenimarcus:
Russia military budget is over 200 billion but when converted to dollars makes it $65 billion. You really have time educating this slave-minded asses.

It’s tiring but someone has to do it, lol.

Thanks, bro.

989900:
Did you read the attached, or you just want to believe in your personal thoughts/sentiments?
If the latter is the case, by all means, have at it

Dude, I don’t read trash western propaganda. They just project their thoughts on the guy and his plans.

Find me a direct quote from Putin. All his speeches leading up to the invasion, invasion speech and weekly wartime speeches are on YouTube with translations and he never said that crap.

No one knows what that man and Russians are thinking and their plans.

Winston Churchill said it best when he said: “Russia is a riddle wrapped in an enigma”. You never know what they’re thinking unless they say it and even when they say it - there’s always a lot of misdirections and feints. You only go with what Russians do. That’s why they’re excellent poets, mathematicians and physicists.

Everything you read on MSM is just propaganda until you see Russian doing it. That’s why NATO is scared of Russia.

Demolakay:
USA spent 20billion dollars in Afghanistan,20 years of war,wit support frm different allies,did dey achieve deir objectives? despite d use of chemical weapons nd artilleries,dey spend billions in vietnam,3years of war, did dey achieve deir objectives? Russia will definitely liberate d donbass nd luhansk region.Ukraine nva push dem away frm to any border.Russia withdrew soldier's frm dose areas into d defensive lines in donetsk to fortify dier positions deir,making it easy for Ukrainian soldier's to reclaim d place,jst like it happened wen dey left kiev.If d Ukrainian were dat super counter effective,why av dey nt taken kherson,Crimea,melitopol,Mariupol etc.Dis cities av successful fallen under Russian control,wen dey do,i will bliv dey are really on a counter offensive.As of nw all we c on d news are sensationalism jst to massage some pples ego,nd giv some sense of hope to d Ukrainians,wu are definitely on d loosing side.90%of luhansk is under Russia as we speak,same as luhansk.Russia has taken territories d size of Uk,yet Ukraine is winning.Even if oda's do,i refuse to b fooled.

Bro, the US spent over $3trillion in Aghanistan not $20billion and still took a big L.

Russia’s military budget is $65billion. But the US and NATO countries have spent almost $10billion on Ukraine in 3months, with almost $70billion budgeted and they’re gonna take another L in Ukraine, lol.

The US and Ls are like Siamese Twins, lol.

omis1:
you they mind d clown,Russia economy is like number 11 in d world ,at least 8 of d top 10 are nato country and allies.
Russia economy is in Spain level

Lol, judging economy based on GDP is the most flawed metric out there. Even the greatest economists will tell you that.

Nigeria has the biggest GDP based economy in Africa but it’s one of the poorest countries on the continent. The US has the biggest economy in the world but its economy isn’t as healthy as China and Russia’s and might enter depression next year.

Russia and Germany are the only true big boys in Europe - the rest just look big based on inflated GDP numbers. And Russia is the richest country in the world in terms of resources.

like1:
Lol, you will just be living on illusion, let Argentina or Cuba try any nonsense with USA and they will see. Russia wey never feed finish, na them want come save them. Lol. You don't know the power of money and technology. Stay there with your wishful thinking. Even Argentina or Cuba won't try that now, they will only wish.

Money speaks. Russia is too broke to be of any influence. Like too broke. Make money first, then technology, then you can start looking for power and troubles. You can't be broke and be looking for trouble, hunger go humble you.

Post in English language.

And Argentina is currently attending the CSTO meeting in Russia as an observer.

Apart from European slaves, a lot of countries don’t give a shit about the US anymore.

ASEAN countries just called Biden’s bluff yesterday and told him they can’t condemn Russia.

Countries in the Americans are threatening to boycott the US summit if Venezuela isn’t invited.

India refused to condemn and sanction Russia.

OPEC has refused to increase oil production if there’s an oil embargo on Russia.

China keeps strengthening cooperation with Russia.

Etc.

LOL. They joke is you.

989900:
The above are figments of your imagination.

Find a direct quote from Putin where he said it - not useless propaganda.

They also claimed he has cancer and is dying. They claimed there are reports he’ll mobilise on May 9 and declare war (it’s still a special military operation - not full scale war in Russian context) and he never did.

His speech for invasion is still there on YouTube with translation - the man never said that.

Rebelutionary:
1. Yes, No countries sets a date per say for when a country will fall but you will agree with me with the massing of troops that took place months ahead before the invasion you wouldn't expect Ukraine to be standing but here we are 83 days later and they are not any closer to their military objectives. Not one landmark milestone achieved! Maybe you would tell me one...not Kiev not kharkiv. Even the Russians are miffed that it is dragging this long with casualties pouring in!

2. Concentrating their offensive on the Donbass was an afterthought after realising that they obviously can't take the whole country, oust the president and install their puppet! Tell me which would have sent a more convincing message of Russia's military dominance-taking Ukraine convincingly or grappling at straws to fight for the Donbass region? Now you see the lie in your Azov sea position!

3. The same fear that propelled the invasion of Ukraine is what he made happen quicker! What folly! If it is chess Russia just got schooled. There is nothing like indirect membership in NATO, you are either in or not! Russia should touch any of these countries and he will be surprised!

4. CSTO? please dont make me laugh abeg...was that a typo or something? Did you see the list of countries you are listing? There is nothing to watch out for abeg and wont even bother making a comment on that.

Read this: Win or Lose, Russia has lost!

1. If you agree that all the “Ukraine will fall in days” nonsense are just western crap - why are you alluding to it when Russians never set a date?

The initial amassing of troops on the border was just a show of force by Russia since Ukraine was also amassing troops to invade the Donbass region. And something most people are oblivious to is that there have been a civil war in that region for 8yrs and Ukraine was amassing troops in invade it this summer.

As we all know now (both from western and Russian sources) - invasion initially wasn’t on the table for Russia despite amassing troops there (Russia did the same thing in 2014 and didn’t invade). Putin just decided to invade spontaneously without consulting a lot of power brokers in Russia due to intelligence from FSB that he had to do it fast, else it’s going to be a massacre/genocide in Donbass. So there’s no timetable.

Also, when Putin invaded, he never said anything about taking the whole of Ukraine including Kiev - what he said are:

i. Demilitarisation and denazification of Ukraine.
ii. Ukraine will maintain neutrality.
iii. Independence of Donbass region which includes: Luhansk, Donetsk and Mariupol.

And all three are going to plan. He’s demilitarising/denazifying Ukraine. 95% of Luhansk is liberated. 85% of Donetsk is Liberated. Mariupol is technically liberated apart from the ones hiding in Azovstal bunker and most of them surrendered today. He also gained Kherson and Melitopol. And Ukraine isn’t part of NATO.

So, where did you get Kiev and Kharkiv from when it was never announced as part of the objective? I guess you don’t understand what military feint is. Russia didn’t deploy enough troops in Ukraine to take those places - it only deployed 150k troops out of the 1million active troops. It would need twice that number to take those cities. Perhaps they might be added in phase 3 but right now - they were never part of the objective.

And the US and Kurd forces spent 9 months in taking Mosul from ISIS. US and British forces numbering 20k spent 2months in taking Fallujah from 3k Iraqi militants. US spent 20yrs in Afghanistan and didn’t conquer the whole country. Russians are outnumbered by 3:1 - so 83 days isn’t a long time in a war of attrition.

2. Ousting the president was never part of the objective. That’s just western BS. If they wanted to oust it - they would’ve bombed government buildings and foreign dignitaries won’t be going to Kiev the way they’re. The plan was to force him to implement the Minsk agreement hence the earlier negotiations. But now they’ll enforce it on the battlefield.

As for Donbass - read my post 1 thoroughly. Putin recognised Donbass as independent countries a week before the invasion and that was part of the main objectives.

I doubt you know where Sea of Azov is on the map and you most likely failed geography in school. After that, go read about why Russia took Crimea in 2014. Sea of Azov has nothing to do with Donbass, lol.

3. You’re clueless, it’s pitiful. I doubt you have a clue about what Monroe Doctrine entails. Any knowledgeable person with a brain who understands Monroe Doctrine would know Mexico, Cuba, Nicaragua, Brazil and Argentina joining CSTO would make the US cry and most likely declare war.

I’m done with you - you’re not as educated and knowledgeable as I initially thought.

bankylan:
Who gave these kids access to internet?

Low IQ having porch monkey, I have forgotten more than you’ll ever know. Effing village peasant.

Dumb take based on propaganda, lol.

This should be directed to the US and its adventure in Afghanistan and Vietnam. 20yrs, $3trillion and ugly defeat.

Donbass has almost collapsed and Ukraine should be landlocked by the end of this year. Putin has never lost a war.