₦airaland Forum

God grant her peace

Obijulius:
this is d end of nigeria.

Amen to that, Tell GEJ to split or do SNC fast

htaza is an Igboman claiming Ijaw

Beaf:
alj boko haram, the parasite who is happy to hear that Shell assassinates Nigerians, yet is unwilling to to partner our development.
What more can be expected of a man who eats grass?

I don't usually say this on Nairaland but in all honesty, I feel deeply sorry for those that have been believing the crap you have been feeding them which inculde me because as soon as GEJ was the president, I trusted him to deliver.

YES I am happy right now because

1. I have been vindicated

2. It has exposed your ignorance for the world to see.

there is an adage that says " when a tree is about to be fall, it is only an adult that knows the direction of the fall"

From the one set, I knew the end result and I fought hard for Nigerians to realise the facts on ground but as usual you blinded them with tribalism trying to exclude the North promising the middlebelt and the south heave and earth

The Middle belt and the Yoruba/edo/Itsekiri quickly realised the folly in argument and choose to stand on their own. The you resulted to SS/SE and of course my Igbo brothers here on NL that always feel the need to be wanted were glad to go for it even though the arguement made no logical sense, they prefered it.

Nigeria has no bargaining power for something they do not produce or produce in very small quantities. If we had at least one or two refinery that produces 70 % of our crude product, then we can bargain knowing full well that they would be at the losing end if they do not go our way.

Shell and indeed other companies knew that Nigeria has no bargaining power that is why they NEVER take us serious.

Ok GSM pay as you go started with MTN at a rate of 50-100 Naira per minute. As soon as Glo came, there was competition aand this drove the rate down to as low as 20 naira per minute + we have our own indigenous company + employment + development + more competition

That is an open market. Unlike the silly theories you put here on NL daily making gulluble minds believe the crap.

what a shame

Beaf:
Hello parasite. The above is the exact sound of a parasite.

Mr Man, ani't you the parasite here ?

How can you tell a company to build your refinery for you after they have already paid you ?

The plan you were telling us about during the fuel subsidy was that deregulation would bring about companies building refinery.

That is what you told us and that was whate GEJ told us forgetting that he has not put Nigeria in the position to dictate.

why not come to this thread and explain to Nigerians how you lied and decieved them

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-884767.0.html

where are those tribalistic goons. Apparently, Alj harem was right again

Goats

manny4life:
Why should Shell build refineries for you? They are only there for the raw material, not to process the finished goods. It's like someone saying why isn't Mars Corporation or Hershey Foods, the two large giants of chocolate, why aren't they building Cocoa refinery in Nigeria or even Africa, that's not their problem. They will help in the planting, quality check, export their share, but for the finished goods, that's where they move it to the U.S.

Shell shouldn't have to nor is it obligated to build refinery for Nigeria and Nigerians, however, if Nigeria decides to add a clause to their contract, worst case, Shell can go into an arrangement with a Nigerian company to do so or exit the market for those who are willing to (we obviously know they won't). There's nothing worng with building refineries, I think that Nigerian Govt isn't sincere to itself. There are turnkey models out there, ready in less than a year, government can sponsor groups who are will to do this.

Thank you,

Beaf:
It is best for us to kick Shell out.
The Chinese have been building refineries all over the place without bringing up stup!d and insulting excuses. When it was time to kill Saro Wiwa, they didn't make any excuses.

Shut up, what has Saro wiwa got to do with the government doing her Job ?

If you are not a government agent, why not explain to us as you did doing the protest how removing the subsidy would translate to building of refineries by private multinational companies ? Mumu

I wonder how some dum.b Nigerian would keep listening to you

How can they make one a VC of Igbo origin and you employ 107 Igbos and 3 yorubas in University of Ibadan while others are unemployed.

Yet they say yorubas hate them

patriot2:
My brothers, Nigerians i am fed up of you, there is always a reason to insult yourselves, there is always a reason to kill yourselves, while you are focussing on how to kill each other, the foreigners are steeling your oil and other resources and planning to recolonize you. You still can't see that ethnicity doesn't hold any meaning ! My ethnicity is "black skin", that is it.

Nope your ethnicity is not Black, Black is your skin colour

stop this ignorant talk here

htajz:
nothing will change after GEJ, nothing will change if we have an igbo president and nothing will change if we have another yoruba either, the whole system should be scraped with division on the table. we can keep postponing dooms day but it will come again. thank to nairaland seun is playing the role of inciting deep ethnic hatred.

Igbo man you still dey here

wetin happen

htajz:
you should start with the owner of the website who happens to be a yoruba man, google anything about nigeria and you will get the most disgusting results all from nairaland,yorubas have no shame.

Nwannem, How is nnewi na ? aturu

htajz:
iwe ri so ,opu ikpu  smfh    whether am ijaw or not does not change the fact that yorubas need deliverance to chasse away the spirit of witch hunting and careless statements  

Me Iwe how can I be jealous of you BTW that is not a complete sentence neither did it make sense

[size=18pt]SURELY YOU ARE AN IGBO MAN[/size]

obe what a shame thanks for releveling yourself

You no be Ijaw again Igbo man mo ke emi htaza na Igbo ? mie buzemo

I could careless about Ijaw because I believe they should form their own country but Igbo man pretending to be Ijaw just to bash yoruba today and claim Ijaw.

LOL

htaz wetin do you, cat cut your tongue ?

Abi you no be Ijaw again nwannem ?

htajz:
if you want to face igbos you know how to find them ,if you want to face ijaws am always there branding me igbo does not change the fact that you and your yorubas are just pathetic waste, am sure you know what brought me to nairaland in the first place, your dirty stinking comments ijaws. you probably think we dont hav access to internet when you and your pathetic yoruba race were running your mouths.

[size=18pt]you are not ijaw YOU ARE IGBO . common among your people to pretend to be this and that[/size]

Ok lets test your Ijawness here

ose keni yoruba ? abugo ade

[quote author=Dudu_Negro link=topic=882413.msg10317428#msg10317428 date=1330722900]. . . what is that, ethnic cleansing?   What are these:

1. forment trouble in Western house of assembly and depose Awo
2. create trumped charges and lock Awo and Enahoro up
3. 19 days later change constitution and divide Western region
4.  subdue Isaac Boro and the his Delta movement
5.  subdue North under civil servants and military force led by Igbos
6. kill off West (Akintola), MidWest (Okotie Eboh), North (Balewa and Bello) and as well their ethnic Army officers
7. suspend constitution and solidify "nationalism" so no one escapes from the grip of NdIgbo rule and monololized power
8. promote Hausa and Ibo officers and elevate Igbo civil servants to senior posts and deployed to West and North for the implementation of Zik vision for nationalist agenda

You dont need to roll into town in an armored perssonell carrier shelling bazookas in order to effect ethnic cleansing. . . . . you could do it with just a stroke of the pen.  Zik used his pen, Nzeogwu used his guns and bullets. . . . Ironsi used his decree and . . . . when it came turn for ndIgbo to taste its own coffee. . . or should I say, honey. . . . Ojukwu said his people are ethnically being killed. 

wtf!! [/quote]+ 1000, I don't still understand why they hate yorubas because of that

htajz:
f, uck you , f, uck ACN and f, uck the south west , bunch of as.ss lickers, what happened to your alliance with the north? dumbwitts. now run away your hausa fulani masters need you.

Ogini ? what is it self

Insult ACN, for all I care but insulting South west makes you look stu.pid

I wonder what Igbos have against yorubas eince even before independence

texazzpete:
Depressingly, topics like this just goes to show how daft many people on Nairaland really are.
How can anyone in his right mind be exhorting the Federal government to compel tax-paying multinational oil companies (who are already under contractual agreements, pay hefty taxes and invest billions of dollars in Oil and gas exploration and production) to enter a loss making venture like refining?

Why is it beyond many Nigerians to carry out a simple research? Even with the internet at their fingertips, many people here have been so spoiled by years of copying handouts verbatim that they cannot even run a simple Google search to verify information received. A few minutes of googling would show you that not only Shell but most of all the other multinational companies are seriously divesting their refineries and selling them off to interested parties. And that's refineries in sane climes, not to mention this country where nothing works.


I shouted this same thing during the fuel subsidy debates. The Government told you dolts clear lies and people ate it up without question. Refineries are typically a low profit margin business. There's a reason why most of the oil companies are selling off most of their refineries. Read this

http://www.gtforum.com/gtf/research/2122391/refinery-divestments-story

Here's a quote from the article.

The IEA stated in its Oil Market Report, released October 12: “In the OECD, refinery consolidation continued apace, with refineries accounting for close to 1mbpd of primary distillation capacity completing or announcing extended shutdowns or refinery sales in September.
“Refinery margins deteriorated further last month, and were on average negative for 18 out of the 26 configurations surveyed.”

What this clearly says is that of 26 refineries surveyed, 18 were LOSING MONEY!
Shell, Mobil, Chevron et al are publicly traded companies and they owe it to their shareholders to maximise profit. Why should they now venture into refining in Nigeria? Why should they be forced to?

Anyone telling you that there will be a mad rush for private refineries is lying to you. Use your brains!

kokoA:
It is not Shell's responsibility to build a refinery for us. Stop blaming our laziness on foreigners.

[size=18pt]RESOUNDING YES SIR !!!!

God bless you two. [/size]

good, Waking up finally

samguru:
If shell cannot build refinery in the africa largest producer of crude oil and where they derive good revenue from,it implies the nigeria oil sector will not develop as anticipated,and by now our legislators should commence a legislative action to compel the oil giant to build refinery or leave the country

ibide:
Then the F G must not allow them to operate let those who can build operate i don't know why the are taking nigeria forgranted can they say that to brasil ?

LOL why not take your guns and force them to build YOUR refinary for you.

Aigbofa:
Not only Shell, I think Nigeria should look closely at companies like Cargill, Archer Daniels,etc. Companies that are only interested in taking raw materials from Nigeria at dirt cheap prices without giving anything back.

Nigeria should be NOT BE in this position at the first place. Nigeria should be the one negiociating not begging a company to build etc

We own our resources not Shell

Let us control our resources, market price etc by building OUR OWN REFINARY AND HAVE AN INDIGENOUS OIL COMPANY that takes care of that

Shell, Chevorn, Aramco, etc are now private. Why can't we have Onado for Nigeria.

Why must foreign companies dictate our market to us rather than ourselves.

When GSM came out it was 50-100 naira per min thansk to MTN but not it is as low as 20 naira per min even with inflation thanks to GLO

Why can't we do the same for Onado for crying out loud

Nigeria is not really in the position to negiociate good deals I tell you

agabaI23:
What has this got to do with fresh air?

@topic
I think these guys should be kicked out of Nigeria seriously. What a lame excuse? This is in line Europe's raw material initiative agenda which will ensure that raw materials are never refined in Africa while discouraging increase in export tax.

This was one of the reasons France insisted that Gbagbo should leave because he wanted to ensure the processing of cocoa in Ivory Coast.

Having said that, they will not succeed without collaborators. These are the people who have stifled the passage of the PIB.
Occupy shell and national assembly.

It has alot to do with fresh air because we predicted this and Nigeria is not in the position to kick anyone out

I laugh at you people, kick shell out because of what they did not build a refinary for you, Heck !  it is not shell duty to build a refinary for a country. NO WAY

If you own an oil company, would you build a refinary outside your country or in your country. profit margin is to much.

[size=13pt] during the fuel protest, this is what i warned against but bigotry has blinded most people that did not protest.

Where are thos Ideeiots that said deregulation would make refinaries for Nigeria.

Have I not warned times without number that NO MULTINATION WOULD BUILD A REFINAERY FOR NIGERIA.

Now what does nigeria do ? pass the fruastration on the people

Ideeiots listen,

- GEJ should build Nigerian owned refinary,

- reduce the indigenous Oil companies to 3 or 4 powerful ccompanies like the way it is done in the banking sector.

- Privatetized the refinaery so those companies can pay slowly and in stages.

NO PRIVATE COMPANY OR MULTINATION WOULD BUILD A REFINARY FOR NIGERIA SINCE THEY ARE NOT AS STUUUPID AS US BACK HOME.

I for one would not do such, I would rather build it in my country and force the country to export it there for refining and import it back. That way I have made 5 times my profit compare to me building a refinary and also my country has made some as well

I have also forced them to export their jobs to my country thus providing jobs for my citizens



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htajz:
i like threads like , the division of nigeria is not far ahead, i also love the fact that these animosities are now being exported to naijaplas ,lindaikeji and co ,its time to stop pretending . for those calling for united southerne nigeria i hope you see it now, you people can go ahead and unite the south as lng as ijaw land is not included. smh.

I am glad you brought that up. You Igbos can be dispeakable at time with what you are doing on those websites.

The rate you insult the yorubas would make one think that this hate was born out of something different from with it is.

I seriously SMH for you people. really !!!

Yes I have told you that there CAN NEVER BE SOUTHERN NIGERIA.

Logic Mind:
So your acts are determined by white man's feelings? Poor you.
White, yellow, green, blue man can never make like Yoruba.
If there is ever going to be a genocide that will be useful to humanity, it will be the Yoruba genocide. They are just a waste of space, parasites and misuse of oxygen.

How can you say that

0lumide:
TINUBU DON FINISH!!

HE IS STRONGER THAN YOUR FISHERMAN IN ASO ROCK SHA, HAHAHAHHA

[size=18pt]htajz is Igbo not Niger delta.[/size]

Onlytruth:
Fact remains that Easterners (irrespective of tribe) were being killed in North and West. The Northerners wanted to do the same in the East, it didn't happen.
All non-Easterners in the East were given safe passage to return to their regions even with arms.

Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread with silly irrelevant diversions.

Truly you are silly, you know what I find amazing ? your ignorance

I can identify a south-southerner even without his name. All he need to tell me is his idealogy. Easterners were not targeted

Onlytruth, were yorubas targeted by Biafran when they started their killing spree ?