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Can we see the pictures, at least check out how his "aesthetics" range, as a "Professional"?

As per functionality, we will al be here in about one year and await your feedback

Many dunno what have sacrificed just to be an expert in this field, have gone beyond what my master taught me in terms of filtering the water away from the human waste just to make it more effective which I tested and worked fine, av connected with so many engineers who has diverse ideas from mine and yet we arrived at same result. With this little misunderstanding that occured between I and a customer, I just hope alot of clients don't loose trust in my work, have been into this for the past 2/3 years and have always had the same mind set about not wasting time on buried digester looking fine yet had no problem(s) till date, but the world is evolving and I have made the decision that either it's buried or not I will always tend to make it look presentable even when it will not be seen by anyone.

Before u judge me, ask me to send u atleast one work I did that is above the ground level and I will give u prove I did the job.

Have always been the one to explain the processes and how it worked just for a better understanding even to a lay man.

There is no stone I left unturned in terms of questioning.

Don't be toxic in nature and thanks for the advise.

Not for u though, just generalizing.

Thanks once again.

michlins:
As an artisan, it's very important to make your job look as beautiful as possible.

Whether it works or not, first looks matters a whole lot

That's my priority now, I did a very good job all I need to crown it up is with a very good out look.

Thanks.

sonnie10:
Ok. My little nephew was reading our comments and he is curious.

He is asking, now if the molten poo from the first hole moved to either a cast system or a block system which of them would dry it faster? And with of them would the coconut fiber and chemical like to digest most?

I just told him that you said it does not matter.

Either it's casted or block system has no single effect on the human waste as long as there is presence of fibre to digest it immediately the water flushes out of the digester.

n3xt:
Now I understand the system better. The reason why there wasn’t a second pit in the system I saw is because the water was used for irrigation/gardening purpose.

Thanks for sharing.

Exactly it was meant for smth else, so no need to get it absorbed.

Thanks.

sonnie10:
Now you have established an assumed gradient, “little or no water” . Therefore blocks which is more absorbent is likely to be best material than cast. EOD.

Don’t mind me ooo! I am just catching cruise.

Let me break it down so you can understand perfectly.


We construct 2 holes uhn, one is to degrade the human waste while the other hole is to absorb water.

The first hole which is the digester itself has no business with absorbing water.

The second hole is the soaking pit which absorb water.

Now the second hole which absorb water is always installed with blocks.

It's never the duty of a digester to absorb water either you use a concrete or u make use of blocks

n3xt:
Yes. My job is to make the exterior more appealing. The internal component/solution remains the same.

That's what I wanted to know, and am fulfilled now that I get what u trying to say... Now in the case of bio digester been below the ground level, do u need to do all this or u do this only when it will be visible to everyone?

sonnie10:
I understand you aim for it to look presentable but my major concern is to create an environment that would optimize the reaction.
The amount of water in a cast system would definitely be quite different from that in a block system.
The question is which of them offer the best condition for optimal reaction?

U still don't get what I explained above, it's not the work of a digester to absorb water mind you, it's the work of the soaking pit installed with blocks, the digester is only installed to hold the human waste and degrade it, absorbing water is never the work of a digester, so it makes no difference when u looking at the best method of installation considering what will absorb water most

n3xt:
I’ve actually seen the system before and know how it works. I fell in love with it at first sight but when I was ready to explore I could not find anyone to work with.

Maybe this is the opportunity I’ve been waiting for since 2015 when I got introduced to the system.

A concrete box would work magic. The brick and mortar version is just a cheap man edition.

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If I’m to do this, I’d get creative with the cover like what I’m currently working on in one of my ongoing project. We are using wooden slab to cover our underground pool equipment (pic below)

If this can be constructed, the mode of installation and activation will still be the same right??

sonnie10:
Thanks for the insight. But is there not supposed to be an optimal poo water content for the fiber to work effectively?
Simply put, the fiber might not work well with too much or too little poo water content.
In chemistry, we were thought of equilibrium of chemical reactions.

Here, the fibre works effectively when there is little or no water remaining in the Digester, that's why the filter is constructed to remove the water immediately human waste and water gets into the digester.

sonnie10:
What will absorb the moisture from the waste?

Then the human waste alone gets degraded

sonnie10:
What will absorb the moisture from the waste?

The moisture/water doesn't stay inside the Digester, it goes down into the second hole with the help of a filter and get dried up immediately as long as there is more than enough blocks in the second hole.

sonnie10:
It looks like casting would not serve the purpose here. Solid block is more porous and absorbent than casting.
With casting, water would be retained in the system and also it would have adverse effect on the active components reaction.

If casting should be employed, it’s most likely going to be just aesthetics.

Casting is only meant to retain the human waste and not the water.

We construct 2 different holes, one for human waste and one for retaining water. The one for retaining water must be installed with the use of blocks.

n3xt:
If you need assistance, I can work with you on designing/achieving a more sturdier system.

I have some templates on ground for this already.

You’re in a niche business. Improve your craft and become an authority in your trade.

I hope I’ve been able to add value to you.

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You die the day you stop learning and trying to improve yourself. No one is born pro!

Yea will love to work with u. Will contact you immediately.

n3xt:
I can see you’re trying to improve your craft. Instead of using cement/mortar, kindly consider using polyurethane foam sealant in your next project.

You’ll achieve a cleaner and better outward finish with it.

You might also want to consider an interlocking design for your tank.

Well done.

Yea am trying to improve and thanks for that.

Will try that next time and probably stop the usage of blocks, just casting.

Thanks again.

[quote author=AlphamaleTech1 post=108585009][/quote]Here is the last one I did after I left his site, am not posting this to show any sympathy or whatsoever but to let u know that installation involves same method, only the outward appearance will make the owner praise u.

This is above the ground level, therefore people will be seeing it day to day unlike the ones that will be below the ground level and not seen.

[quote author=KelvinCoaster post=108584555]AlphamaleTech1,

Is this all you have to say?
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I have alot to say but am just not in a good mood after all he wrote.



Well to begin with I will like to let him know am sorry about how the outward appearance looks like, I should av called a bricklayer to help me design it after have done all the activation and all, all the bricklayer needs to do is just to design the outward look very presentable. Bio digester installation doesn't involve two ways, we all use same materials and same same quality, there is no fake activation when it comes to bio digester....

Concerning the issue of casting or blocks, we make use of both blocks and casting during installation the only reason why we make use of casting is when the site you wanna work is very close to you, which has no effect on how it works irrespective of the method used as long as the blocks are filled with grandnites and cement mixed with water.

Am not saying am 100 percent right but all am trying to explain to him is that the outward appearance doesn't have any effect on its effectiveness coz most installer employs the service of a bricklayer just to help them design the outward look after all has been installed... The only fault I had was not doing so and why I did not bother to employ a bricklayer was bcoz this digester will still be below the ground level, unlike the ones have posted which are above the ground level.

Before installing any biodigester, I do ask customers if it will be above the ground or below.

But biliv me when I tell you that it doesn't av any effect on how it works, we use same activation which is treated coconut fibre to reduce the waste and blocks to soak the waters...there are no two ways about it, the only testing we do after installation is pour water in it and see if it filters which I did before closing and works fine.

Yea

TOOFAN

Jeff68:
I texted u on WhatsApp, still waiting for a response.

Very sorry about that,av not been online for a while, hope I have replied you already??

DancingSkeleton:
what then happens to the waste?

The human waste is degradable in nature,so it will be degraded while the water dries off in the soaking pit.

Jeff68:
I texted u on WhatsApp, still waiting for a response.

Ibeju right?

kopell:
this is really nice. I’m really interested in it I will book you down when I get to the stage.

Ok sir, 08165641857

DancingSkeleton:
Please explain in detail if you can, how does this function? I’ve seen i numbers of times on this forum yet I still don’t know how it functions

It functions just like the old soak away but what makes it joy for home owners is that it doesn't smell or retain water, immediately u flush the human waste and water goes directly into the Digester but the water goes down immediately through what we call filter, the filter seperates the human waste from the water, retains the waste and channel just the water down to another place where we call soaking pit and dry off immediately. It doesn't consume much space online the old soak away and nothing can penetrate tru bio Digester...

Tsuccesssquare:
Interesting, I would need this soon.

Few questions.

- What does it require for maintenance? And how often should this be done?

- is there a way this can be buried in the ground for cars to pass through? Or some part of it must be above the ground level? Location is around Bogije.

- Where will water in this biodigester be discharged to?

Doesn't require any maintainance, the only thing u should do is just make sure pads and pampers doesn't go tru frequently or even at all. The pads can't be degraded just like I discussed earlier, and concerning the burying of bio digester, that's the main joy of installing a bio digester, we can make it invisible, monst of the pictures I posted was taken before the home owners level the ground, depends on what u want we do.... Moreover a bio digester doesn't require much space, we can install it anywhere in the compound coz it doesn't smell, if u av a space that is just 3ft wide and 7 ft kind digester is good to go bro and lastly about the water, we have a seperate constructed to accommodate the water and dried off immediately the water gets there another joy is that water doesn't stay in d digester for any seconds, it goes into d soaking pit Immediately u flush. 08165641857.

Pls if am not online on whatsapp to chat I will be on-site working pls u can as well give me a call. Pls. Am here to serve u all.

Nomyth:
With the issue of snakes trending and people advised to flush their toilets with sniper, petrol, salt, bleach, antiseptic, and all forms of fumigation.

Question is, how does your bio- digester hold against these barrage of chemical weapon?

Will the active bacteria not be killed?

No no no, there is nothing like bacteria killing snakes, the truth is that the snake doesn't have any hole to penetrate when it comes to Digester, we have the filter which is constructed like a rock with little holes which only water can pass tru, aside that, there is no way a snake can penetrate tru a bio Digester.

bobkezel:
I heard detergents are not be used with biodigesters.... If true, how then can one go about it?

I don't understand what u mean by that, Y cnt detergent go via a digester, when u wash your W.C with soap and water it will definitely go tru the Digester, not to worry, the soap is going down with the water down to the soaking pit, its not staying in the digester that's is the work of the filter.

gandkiss:
We spoke,

We have a date fixed for next weekend.
For my biodigester installation.

Oh! Ikorodu right

I dunno it's you bro... U are in my schedule already.

twinskenny:
Enjoying your lecture so far… this should be way to go .

Am fulfilled. Thanks.


Just don't forget to chat us up on whatsapp when the time comes.

kopell:
I believe is new in Nigeria my concern is blockage when people flush in undecomposed materials like diapers, pads, into it.

If diapers can block digester it can also block the old soak away, we both make use of the 4 inches pipe, the only thing is that diapers, pads can't be degraded; nevertheless it's still very much preferred, it will still last for a very long period of time. Even when it get filled due to pads etc, u dnt av to call the human waste agency for evacuation where u spend extra at d same time cause air pollution, with Digester, the human waste doesn't smell..we just open it, wash the filter then it's as good as new again. Life is good. Moreover we don't give room for too many curves while installing, that makes it difficult for it to get blocked.

kopell:
interesting I would really like to know the pro con of the system especially in waterlogged areas

There is a way we install that of water logged area, we use more materials and it's a bit quiet expensive than that of dry land, nevertheless it's still very much preferable than the old smelling soakaway. Digester for both dry land and water logged area serves same purposes and duration, the only difference is that for water logged area we will hardly dig the ground or just half feet digging;which means it's always on the SURFACE unlike the dry land that we bury in d ground.

kopell:
this is really nice. I’m really interested in it I will book you down when I get to the stage.

No worries, am at your service anytime.


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08165641857

[quote author=Tsuccesssquare post=108031652]This looks cheaper than the traditional soak-away system.

The question that keeps coming to mind is why do people still go for the traditional soak-away? when this is cheaper and obviously require lesser space.

Anyone with experience can please share.



Ignorance is the cause. Most of these old men and women don't have time to browse through the net aside that most people till now haven't heard about it or seen it done anywhere.