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MaziUche0:
Not for good, but I am more inclined to align myself with the North.

my brother Igbo have always been with us. Aside from religion- we have common interest.

MaziUche0:
We were the puppet masters.

Why be the head when we could control the bureaucracy in which we did. We controlled the finances, and at the time, we also controlled the military.

Igbos controlled those position through the appointment of many igbos by Balewa-

Balewa was the first prime minister he appointed Azikiwe.

Im not saying Igbos are puppets but I am saying they were surely not the puppet masters.

MaziUche0:
People need to understand that the Igbo had more to lose in a coup than anyone else.

Our position was secured. We held high positions in civil service, military etc. Now we did give political power to the North, but we still controlled the bureaucracy.

We were arguably the wealthiest and most educated tribe in Nigeria.

So I shall say it again, what would we Igbos have gained from staging a coup?

igbos position was secured but not as the head of Nigeria.

ojukwu is the ears mouth and eyes of the igbo what he says is truth. igbo have aligned thmselves with the north for good.

MaziUche0:
What did we Igbos have to gain from the coup?

We were already on top. . . Our position was secured!

So to answer my own question, it was nothing.

That is why it could not have been an Igbo Coup. We basically controlled Nigeria.

my brother i have to disagree with you. igbo controlled the East and mid western, there is never a time and i repeat never a time igbo contolled the north.

as of the west tribalist Awo headed them.

if the agreement between balewa and azikwe was for Azikwe to control all of nigeri - Balewa would have not agreed to be in Nigeria the first place.

It is a known fct that the Agreement for north to stay in nigeria was for Balewa to head the country- as allah would only deem him the choice of the people

Ive made corrections to the topic.

I dont believe IBB is the right person to represent the north. But I like that Ojukwu on behalf of the igbos have forgiven the north.

I admire Ojukwu- After the constant killing of igbo in the north- he has hopes for One Nigeria

I dont agee with 16 more years-

Ojukwu, IBB to meet
• In effort to woo Igbo

A few days after officially flagging off his presidential campaign, former military president, General Ibrahim Babangida, has scheduled a meeting with former Biafran leader and Ikemba Nnewi, Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, as part of his mobilization programme.

The meeting, scheduled at Ojukwu’s residence in Enugu, holds tomorrow.
Saturday Sun gathered that Babangida, aware of the way Igbo regard Ojukwu, sent words to the former warlord asking for meeting, to impress it upon him that he is sincere in his promise to work for the emergence of a South easterner as president in 2015.

Sources revealed that Babangida deemed it necessary to meet with Ojukwu since he said only the election of Igbo man as president would completely bring an end to the civil war.
“IBB said that it is only when an Igbo man becomes president that his people would believe that the civil war has ended. Since Ojukwu is the symbol of the civil war in Igboland, he therefore, deemed it necessary to meet with him and explain his intention. He is serious about his promise,” a source said.

Although Ojukwu is not a member of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), it was gathered that Babangida believes that if he buys into the Igbo 2015 Presidency dream he would reach out to delegates who would participate in the South East zonal presidential primaries scheduled for October 18.

It was learnt that even before publicly indicating interest to contest the presidential election, Babangida intimated Ojukwu, just as he did other political leaders across the country. Sources revealed that the duo have been in touch on phone. Tomorrow’s meeting would be the first time they are meeting in a long while.

In April, Ojukwu had said that there was nothing wrong with Babangida’s aspiration to return to power.
In an interview he granted Saturday Sun, which was published on April 7, 2010, Ojukwu x-rayed former leaders who want to return to power and said that Babangida was welcome.

He said in the interview: “I don’t know that he wants to come back. But Babangida happens to be the one I know a little bit about. If for nothing else I like his sense of humour and I believe that a man endowed with such openness might have something to offer.”

Asked if he would not mind Babangida coming back, Ojukwu said: “Oh, yes, why not. In fact, anybody who wants to have a shot at the presidency is welcome, provided they go the right way. Don’t come back to office through the wrong way, such as a coup d’tat; then I will tell you that you are cheating. But if you are going through the elections, campaigns and get people to vote for you and they say you at the man, that’s ok by me.”

He did not see anything wrong with the fact that Babangida was in power for eight years, as military, and still wants to return as civilian president. He said of this: “I would even go further to say that if 16 years were possible provided the man is healthy and his senses are still intact and his coordination is still alright, then he should offer himself for the job and if the people want him, so be it.”

After visiting Ojukwu, Babangida will also meet with former Vice President, Dr. Alex Ekwueme. There is also a plan for him to meet with PDP bigwigs in Anambra State.

Informed sources revealed that the former military ruler, in the next couple of days, would personally hold meeting with PDP chieftains in the South East, including governors and former governors.

To accompany Babangida in his campaign tour of South East are members of his campaign organisation, former Senate President, Chief Ken Nnamani and former Rivers State governor, Dr. Peter Odili.

in order to do that it needs to be an Hausa, kanuri or maybe northern yoruba. a muslim so it wont be seen as an attack on islam.

One of the reason

The calculation is based on the fact that Sambo is younger than the two and may be accepted as a greenhorn to the electorate and more trust worthy to Jonathan for the 2015 election.

Sources however said that the Sambo option is facing some challenges as he is an Hausa, not a Fulani and is from a state that is not known to be a strong Fulani stronghold.

A source said, “The Fulani are not comfortable with Sambo.

“Kaduna State, where he comes from, is not a Fulani state.

“It is made up of Hausa, Christians and other minority states.

“You cannot compare Kaduna, for instance, with the likes of Sokoto, Katsina, Kano or even Plateau States, where there is a mix of both the Hausa and Fulani.

“That is exactly the problem with the Sambo option.

“Those people in the core North would prefer a candidate from a state where there is a mix than one they cannot hold.”

no i think militancy in tghe Niger delta is caused by the Niger delta Govs.

its only southerners who dont mind their business

can you imagine Asha80 said yoruba muslims are killed in the north, but like most ignorant southerners ignores the fact that yoruba muslims also kill fulanis monthly ONLY because fulanis want to herd cattle.

double standard

Obiagu1:
this amingafar must have been a murderer that's why he talks about killing without any hesitation.

T9ksy:
Just listen to the guy talking about taking another man's life, so casually. "No big deal", he says. Gosh what have we done to deserve being lumbered with these animals? The brits definately knew what they were doing when they joined us with them and to make matter worse (for us) rigged them into power.

So long as we remain in the same nation with these people, nigeria has no chance of going developing and attaining her true potential.

Ive seen yorubas kill fulanis and ive seen fulanis kill nupe and ive seen nupe kill fulani, Also along with Kanuri killing Fulanis- Not a big deal. those are small nothing thats big. just little ethnic fights.

These people care nothing for the north- step down for IBB?

are they serious this report better be false. I dont mind a notherner emerging as presidential candidate but IBB?

Thats like giving votes away to buhari

bawomolo:
i guess i'm supposed to be very of afraid

pick up the Quran and read it

asha 80:
how does that change the fact that they are from the north and that they are muslims

the fact is in the north we have different skirmishes between ethnic groups. Kanuris hate fulani, Nupe hate Fulani also but that bewtween us in the north- so it isnt a big deal.

There have been times muslim yorubas have murdered fulanis for no reason- but its not a big deal.

asha 80:
muslim yorubas that are attacked in the north when you guys loose your mind they are are not muslims abi?

You should be more worried about the hoard of illiterate almajiris you guys are producing daily.

I consider muslim yorubas my brothers - "Northerners" dont attack muslim yorubas, its mainly people who are of hausa extraction, sometimes fulanis but mainly hausas. They see the  muslim yorubas as a force that can divide the north.

You wont find Gwari, Nupe, Bororo, Kanuri, igalla, etc fighting with muslim yorubas.

^^^^ Yes sorry I missed your point.

I dont agree with all because sharia in the north is for Everyone regardless of your religion.
Killings in the north Only happen when someone goes against islam.

I personally wont go around killing people if they disrespect islam, but i also wont stop fellow muslims from killing the violators.

for me its between Saraki or Atiku

IBB is old didnt do anything when he was president.

asha 80:
is this supposed to be a joke?

why aren't the northern muslims not cajoled to become christians in the south east and south south?

I said if you dont want to be a target in the north maybe converting to islam will help I didnt say they had to.

[quote author=komando. link=topic=54751.msg6773415#msg6773415 date=1284756687]Igbos will remain what they are![/quote]than I cant vote for you

bawomolo:
but i thought we had equal recognition. who told you i was christian?

If juju is the dominant religion in your culture go head and have laws around shango and co. . . its not me that will be going to hell its you.

Obiagu1:
Have you been to Dubai?

yes BUT dubai is different. Dubais indigenous population isnt much compared to the expats. In a country like Saudia Arabia it is a better comparison because the majority of the population wears Hijab.

Northern Nigeria should be comapred to Saudia Arabia not dubai.

udezue:
Amingafar,
I will never move to the North without arming myself and ready to kill. Will I ever move to Bauchi? Hell no! Why would I want to live with animals unless I am just going there to slaughter any rat I see. I have no business going to the North but like I said I dare you a northerner to attack me anywhere be it North or Ijawland. You will meet your maker. My Awka people almost sent the whole Fulani population to their maker after one of em killed a masquerade. One thing I hate about you people is that you have no respect for people's culture and human lives. 7 Fulani people paid the ultimate price and if not for the intervention of police and leaders, Ndi Oka would have cleared the rest out of their settlements. We don't tolerate Fulani aggression in our own domain.

nothing in the east to even look at thats why you wont find me there.

asha 80:
convert to what exactly?

and why should women wear hijabs?

1 islam

2 because they are in the north

Beaf:
The problem with the core North is that their elite are a bunch of fcked up, thieving, wicked feudalists.

Dude, the only way we can be one is, if the train load of corrupt ex-generals you guys produce at an industrial rate begin to understand that oil is not a military pension. At this very moment, we are chasing the last of the fckers out of the ND anyway (ask IBB and Atiku why they are so desperate for 2011).
Two other things are, you drop that stone age sharia and send your kids to school.

If all the things above are done, you'd be shocked at how friendly everyone will get to the Northern elite. we have no problem with the average Northerner (except the fcked up almajiri's and their handlers).

every region has its own ills ours is illiteracy and the niger deltas is militancy

Onlytruth:
No, I asked you whether you believe in ONE Nigeria or not.
If you do, how come you have a problem with people not being Muslim. Why do you ask Igbos to become Muslims in the north? Do we ask you to become Christians as a pass for safety in Igbo land?

i didnt say igbos should become muslims i said maybe they should convert and the women start wearing hijab.

udezue:
I dare one of you to attack me one day. Na that day you will see an Igbo man in action. I will butcher you and let the vultures feast on your meat. Did I ask you anything about your freaking Allah? Please

everyone feels like a bigman over the internet- go to bauchi and say that with your big mouth.

[quote author=komando. link=topic=515163.msg6773219#msg6773219 date=1284754289]@ amingafar

Some posts ago you were saying you believe in the North. Arewa is the Hausa translation of North, so don't you think you are contradicting yourself?[/quote]arewa as a country

just because im a northerner doesnt mean i want nigeria to break up.

udezue:
Over our dead bodies. They were given Fulani names because they were contributing to the economy of their host community. They were very rich.Heck they were worshipped sef but ofcourse once they felt thirst for blood it was over. Bloody cretins.

this is the problem i have with some southerners be careful with your words had the "worshipped igbo" part been said to the wrong person- it would be seen as an attack against islam leading to your death.

never in my lifetime or my fathers or grandfathers have we worshipped anything but Allah "SWT".

bawomolo:
if all religions should be respected, why does islamic law get to dominate the north?

what an hypocrite. maybe i can start an ifa court in bauchi state.

because islam is the most dominant religion in the north, If you want christian laws in the south go head.

udezue:
Coz your people are lazy morons.

The problem in the north isnt laziness its illiteracy.

[quote author=komando. link=topic=515163.msg6773161#msg6773161 date=1284753588]@ slap1

Yes! And the timing. Becomerich has resurrected or is it reincarnated as an Arewa. So what happens to Yoruba and Benin Republic? No I doubt it. Becomerich has not yet reincarnated, but we the 'faithful' are watching out for his avatar. LOL[/quote]I have never believed in Arewa. Nigeria is my country and is for igbos yorubas niger deltans.

udezue:
EzeUche,
I am very disappointed in you. It seems like you dont know the people u are dealing with. I can't trust them. Go ask my dad's people where all that friendship went in the 60s up north. Even answering Fulani names did them no good. They were fresh targets.

maybe they should have tried converting to islam- and the women start wearing hijab

Onlytruth:
When did that happen, and under what situation?
What Igbos opposed is Sharia (like other non-northerners). You can marry 1000 wives if you have the libido, what's our business with that?
You can also marry 9 year olds provided they are not IGBO girls who should otherwise be in school. Duh!

As for state of origin, if you allow FULL federalism and resource control, we will not oppose state of origin, because then we can stay in our states and thrive there.
That is why I ask you whether you want one Nigeria or not.

I believe in federalism but alot in the north dont so I cant help that.