₦airaland Forum

jason12345:


i personally think it has to do with the culture you were exposed to and also your affinity with the culture. for example, when i was in lagos i felt an affinity with the yorubas and i was also exposed to them alot. i think most igala have been exposed to the hausa/ fulani.hence, their association with the north.

no most igalas have connection with north or south depending on religion and background

there areigalas in edo state who relate more with bini eshans there are igalas in enugu who relate more with ibos, there are iglas in niger kwara who relate more to nupe yoruba fulani,

as you can see some knuckle heads say NC mainly chrsitian wile most muslims say North

dont mind beaf i have two associates named temi both from warri andboth itsheriki

if you as them are they yoruba they'll reply something like that

beaf dishonest militant

Where is Ibrahim Badamasi Babangida from?

I am from Minna. We have roots in Sokoto…

Means you were originally Fulani?

No, I am Gwari or what you call Gbagi (laughter).


As i explained to you most northerners an muslim have fulani roots

jason12345:
why start with insults  . you have to understand that ACN is viewed as a sw party as pdp is viewed as a northern party(think it was formed by alex though). anyway, lets see 2011.

pdp is not a northern party anpp is and pdp was never suppose to be permanent it was drawn up over night to install obasanjo and the for him to givve us back power.

jason12345:
I DOUBT THAT.  why is he not supported now

half of the north meaning minorities as well as fulanis here and there did moshood not win in northern states

chyz:
IBB muscled his way in through a coup. Even when he was in office he complained about the core north trying to bully him into making decisions and also working against him.

ibb didnt muscle anything like most northerners he assimilated into mainstream northern/hausa culture

chyz:
Yes I see , and this is only coming from me. Image how Saraki feels and he is getting it from the whole of the REAL north

what makes ibb any different then saraki?

had obasanjo not become president  before theres no doubt in my mind saraki would have support for atleast half of the north.

i said i want to vote for a northerner because im from the north well middle belt since some claim middlebelt is not north, yet they said im ibo

i said i want a progressive northerner to change the north, yet they say imfrom the south

i said i would rather islamic law yet they say im not amuslim.

what do some people think a nothern person is? we all have different beliefs only common one is religion

jason12345:
you have to admit ribadu is too immature to rule a multi-cultural country like nigeria

ribadu is not a bigot he is only statin what the north thinks i cant blame him

Jonathan cannot leave PDP it is his party,

North doesnt not believe in Zoning it was just a tool so power can come back to us.

we all know dat only south is living on tooth and nail like its the end of the world

we have had middle belt Gowon and IBB both christian and muslim, yet southerners who are prozoning are ok with it electing IBB again does that not spell dullness

I think fasola answered well the reporter was wrong

sowere guy didnt even know where the fire was How can you expect to take such a reporter seriously after his first question was not based on facts.

"there was a fire in Lagos o sorry so it was in ogun state?"

best candidate ribadu

Jonathan is corrupt and defends militants

ohaneze needs not to support anyone

and advise ibo to pick the candidate of  their own choices

chyz:
Never, Until northerners and fake northers like you change.

the middle belt has always been split which is they way its suppose to be I dont expect every igala to be with north or south

when will these people change?

ibos smh

always reading things backward.

The yorubas said Jonathan should look before he leeps and yorubas all cannot support him.
We in the north and middle are split between him and other candidates

Now ibos read it as north and west are supprting Jonathan

chyz:
Close you month and stop trying to win over friends to help your battle. You are not a northerner and i cant believe you came on here pretending that you were.

that is you opinion ill be voting for a northerner whether you like it or not. I will be voting for a muslim whther you like it or not.

and no bini man will call the oba of lagos a biniman

no matter where is 17th grandfather came from

Duduknight:
Alaafin Sango's mother was Nupe; Sango was Yoruba.

even oba of lagos kosokos mother was nupe- Oba of Lagos has ancentry in Benin but sees himself as yoruba.

no sane person will go to oba rilwan and say you are not a yorubaman got back to Benin city that is where you belong, it would be crazy!

dont mind chyz there are many igalas who dont even know how to speak igala and dont identify with being igala but rather a larger tribe hausa fulani yoruba nupe.

thats my choice. If everyone in my family is basically from bida except father who lsees himself as nupe than what is igala about me other than origin of paternal side.

Balewa wasnt a fulani or hausa but grew up as one - you wouldnt dear go up to his family and say " you are not hausa or fulani and stop siding with hausa fulanis" because balewa paternal grandfather or great grandfather was nothausa or fulani .

it depends on assimilation Ive seen fulanis who claim nupe, nupes who claim yoruba and igala who claim hausa.

kettykin:
Some of the middle belt muslims are even more northern than the caliphate , the igallas, domas in nassarawa. Part of Okene e.t.c

The core northerners aren't this brash and arrogant and infact they don't pray for another biafran war.

The ibos should know their real enemies , it might not e hausa fulani

no one prays for any type of conflict im only making it known why things went the way they did.

and ibos have no enemies as long as their know their levels.

jason12345:
thats it, i read somewhere that the igalas have a connection to the yorubas. i even read the igalas and the kwarans are appealing to the government to form oya state and be united with their yoruba brothers. anyway, back to the topic.

kettykin, have you read the article? what do you think? can you see the yorubas had no choice?

no thats not igalas that okun people I dont know how thats possible when nupes are pushing for their own state between Niger and kwara, tribalism

I would rather Identify with the north than south.

stop fooling yourself

chyz:
You are not a northerner and whether you like it or not, you have igbo blood and more of it than you "mixture" of fulani,nupe and that other stuff you claim.

ibos again claiming other why cant someone have his own identity

we share many traits with yoruba even more than Ibo but im not a yorubaman.

chyz and his big  mouth

what is ibo about this?

The Origin and Development
The actual origin of the Igala people is not quite known. Different people present many versions of legends of immigration There are claims, for instance, that the Igala people came from the Jukun (Kwarara/a), some says Benin, others Yoruba. Yet, others feel they migrated from Mecca (Southern Yemen) or Mali.
In the past, the reigning Atta, His Royal Majesty. Agabaidu (Dr.) Aliyu O. Obaje, had. for instance, explained: "the !gala came from Southern Yemen, passed through Ethiopia (where there is an ethnic group called the Gala) and through the (medieval times} Empire of Mali, to Jukun land; then finally, to our present location."  In another instance, the Atta said that the Igala "came from the Arab country of Yemen and were in the present Nigeria at the same time as the founding fathers of the Yorubas, the Jukuns and the Beriberis or Kanuris Bornu.  He also maintains that the earlier migration into Igalaland was at "about the 12th century A.D, led by Amina, a Zaria princess and warrior. who fought her way to Idah , with Hausa and Nupe followers.
           Certain traditions even hold that the Igala are of Fulani origin, simply because of the similarities in their physical features.  It IS clear that Fulanis do not speak a Kwa language. And owing to the linguistic affinity, others affirm the Yoruba connections. For Byng Halt notes that, "It is not surprising that within a short period of arrival in Igala land, a Yoruba is well acquainted with the language.”  He attributes the ease in learning the language to the closeness of the two languages. Armstrong sticks to this same view when he said: "the most definite historical statement that can be made about Igala is that . they had a common origin with the Yoruba and that the separation took place long enough ago to allow for their fairly considerable linguistic differences. There is a whole corpus of oral traditions on the origin of the Igala people.

chyz:
You are not a northerner  and don't mention kanuri because their land is at the top tip of nigeria unlike yours. Igalas are sliut between christians and muslims so meaning your family has christians too. You Igalas look like us igbos and share many things with us. What they do up north has nothing to do with you all. They dont even consider Igalas northerners because you all are not.Lol. And dont give me that mixed mess because we are all mixed. You will never be accept as a northerner and you all did not take place in the killings.

religion plays apart in identity. igalas have different origins as I said.

chyz:
You are even an Igala, you are not even a northerner.Lol. Do you know you can never be a northern candidate for presidency. Igbos are even the ones who gave birth to you.check your history. You come here with the "i have fulani mixure in my blood" nonsense but the fact still remains that you are Igala. you all didnt even play a roll in the pogroms. Yet im still trying to figure out why you continue to come on here and talk as if you are a real northerner and like a hausa-fulani.

If you do not count me as a real northerner what do you say of a kanuri man? or Balewa who wasnt even hausa or fulan but had a fulani mother,

whether you like it or not in this case when it comes to religous leaders and islam the North is united against anything. If anyone thinks only hausa-fulani only partake in religous jihadsyou are mistaken. When it comes to religion hausa and fulani simply dont have the number individually to do anything. But when you talk of people who are mixed and have fulani mother or hausa father the number increases and when you talk of islam which unifies the north there is no stopping the north


because we have our own ethnic problems sure but a kanuri man will not let a fulani imam die at the hands of xtian ibos. an hausaman will not let the killing of a nupe imam or igala imam go easily/

chyz:
Aren't u an igala?

I am agala and with fulani and nupe background like abubakar  audu
 like most northerners Ive said it on different occasions.

when I speak im not only saying my opnion but the general opinion of northerners I WILL NOT KILL ANYONE. but as I stated

amingafar:
the average mindset of most people and wars or ethnic clashes is

you kill my father I kill your family

which mayn in the north feel

im tired of this

the average mindset of most people and wars or ethnic clashes is

you kill my father I kill your family

this is why we dont discuss things like this wit ibos  because they will forget how everything started.

alj harem:
why can't they succeed with the eastern nigeria ?

i have repsect for alaafin more than Awo.

ibos on nl think they are tough they are just loud mouths

in the north ibos dont even talk about biafra to a northern person, because we will remeber the death of bello and balewa.

they wont even try it i know

continue to call BELLO and ordinary politician (he was above Balewa) just dont say it to our faces.

Onlytruth:
Frankly I understand your reasoning. Unfortunately most Igbo still don't get it. You and the north share a feudalistic culture where a politician is GOD while easterners see it oppositely: different culture and value system. Which is why we wanted to secede!
How can you share a country with so much dissimilarity of cultures?

I kill one of your politicians (for whatever reason), you wipe out my town.
You kill one of my politicians (for whatever reasons), I go about my normal business.

Can't you see CLEAR difference? How can we share a country then, since politics must happen and politicians will always be killed.?
What happens when next they kill your GOD?

stop saying polticians wer are talking of BELLO

xtians for you hypocrites

jason12345:
@ onlytruth and chyz

i can categorically tell you that the same thing would have happened in the west if awo was killed (unfortunately). it would be viewed as a domination act. with that said, imagine what would have been in the minds of the northerns then as their spiritual leader was killed in cold blood coupled with the gloating, the sheepism of the northern population and the lack of education back then?

not only Awo but alaafin

Imagine someone killing Alaafin of oyo and Awo at the same time.

jason12345:
why don't you deal with the topic?

i dont know whats his obsession with premier awo is he gowon or his he alaafin or ooni or oduduwa himself?

Onlytruth:
If you really believe the bolded, either you are far worse than I thought (lack conscience) or you are completely clueless about Igbo mentality.

I can say without any equivocation that Igbo population would NOT have descended on innocent foreigners in their midst just to avenge the death of a politician.
The worst that can happen is we go to war (for instance if anyone touches Ojukwu today). But we would not kill innocents.  But maybe time has come for us to review that mindset.

a politcian? we are talking about a spritual leader to many in the north.

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I dont like arguing with people who are one sided

I stated that the killing of innocent was wrong on all sides

but you continue to say we northern people raped killed innocent un armed people, but you disregard the killing of

amingafar:
Bello an innocent man
was Balewa an innocent man
akintola an innocent man
Okotie eboh an innocent man
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