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As a muslim from the NC I can atleast win votes in the NE and middle belt where muslim non hausa-fulanis tribes are.

But what I dont get is why are igbos like Onlytruth and chyz supporting the NW what do they have to gain? Ive said that the north will not vote for the an igbo but they still dont listen,

There is no One north, the time there is Only one north there is against a christian. Most northerners will never vote for a christian.

But I know one thing or sure The north will never vote for a christian southerner.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=515783.msg6779403#msg6779403 date=1284858620]dude quit feeding ppl your information. Watch as they later on use it on you. All these unnecessary infos.

unless you want to sha.[/quote]What info is there to use? Ive said the nw is powerful because igbos like chyz and onlytruth make them so.

chyz:
I'm mixed as well but im still Igbo. Look man your father is Yoruba so you are Yoruba too. you are a pseudo-northerner and you can never run on a northern presidential ticket ok?.

my father is not Yoruba in anyway  he is igalla and nupe, my mother is the one whos mixed with fulani and yoruba and nupe.

I know I cant because im mixed and not the typical hausa-fulani. Ive been saying that they dont see me as an equal because im my fathers father is Igalla anot not from the NW.

It is people like you who are giving  the NW hausa-fulani too much power, .

chyz:
You've only proven more that you are a Yoruba man by saying you father is from kogi . And what do i know about islam? i have my own Quran very often at least a once a week . But anyways the matter is quite clear you are a Yoruba man.

amingafar:
you are a yoruba then, I have STATED THAT IM NOT HAUSA OR FULANI[b] I am mixed with Nupe, fulani, igalla and yoruba. [/b] so how can I be hausa-fulani?

Just because im a northerner doesnt mean Im a hausa-fulani. Im a muslim Northerner that is what I consider myself.

i mean have many times have I stated that I am mixed yes with fullani yes with yoruba yes with igala and yes with nupe.
They are all related but neither are the same.

Onlytruth:
They are ignoring you and I will follow then soon. You will be debating yourself.

my brother you never made sense in the first place, its best you stick to topics about "the east" along with christianity because you know absoloutely nothing about the middle belt, north or Islam.

WHERE ARE THE MORE SENSIBLE PEOPLE?

It seems Onlyttruth wants there to Only be Wazobia with hausa-fulani being the main pwer brokers. It should not be like that.

If you believe im yorubas continue to think like a fowl, Ive tried to talk some sense into ignorant southerners like you it just wont work.

you are igbo so what do you know about islam or the north? nothing all you know is islam is hausa-fulani VERY IGNORANT.

Onlytruth:
You see why I said you are NOT a northerner.
No northerner would say that.  

If I were a moderator on this site, you would be banned because you are an agent of confusion.

There is no one north- we are just mostly muslims. One in religion not in ethnicity.

chyz:
Its clear that you are yoruba from the way you display your emotions. Kwara is in the north also.

my father is from Kogi and my mother is from Bida.

power can never leave "the north" it can only leave the NW Hausa-fulani states.

After Jonathan is president I want a kanuri to be president, it will divide the north even more.

This will be liked to 20nth time Ive said im not HAUSA

My Nl is a muslim name, muslim DOES NOT MEAN HAUSA you are ignorant!

so what dont you get? stop talking to me because you have problems with comprehending.

you are to simple to know about the north.

Onlytruth:
@udezue

Please don't listen to this goat. He thinks he can come here wearing a mask to create confusion.

HE IS NOT A NORTHERNER. I suspect he is Yoruba.

im not a yoruba but i am mixed with yoruba you should read the story of brimah.

Onlytruth:
So, are these not northern minorities:
IBB,
Gowon,
Abacha

So, what other voice are you talking about?
You see, I have always told my people that there is ONE NORTH. There is nothing like northern minority. It is a LIE.
The so called northern minorities have stolen from Nigeria more than their masters the Hausa/Fulani.

you are avery ignorant fellow having a president from your region does not equate to having indepedence from Fulani-hausa hegemony. One of the reasons why Abacha was killed and the main reason why Gowon is indirecly saying Jonathan for president in 2011.
 Gowon was used and dumped, Abacha was killed, Ibb  is the only one still playing by the rules. IBB would dear not ask the sultan of sokoto to support a non northerner

Onlytruth:
Do you follow your idiocy?
You create one measure for yourself, but reject the same measure for me?
What type of a goat does that?

being mixed with fulani is not the same as being fulani and being mixed with fulani has nothing to do with hausas.

Onlytruth:
I am a mix of Igbo, Ijaw, Ibibio, Efik, and Ogoni.

Yes I am an EASTERNER. Not all easterners are only Igbo.

so if know you are a mixture why do you choose igbo and not all?

Those like Ojukwu and Onlytruth do not want to see northern minority tribes with a voice of their own.

It is very annoying being grouped as Aboki or hausa/fulani- it is a lie a pure fulani will tell you there is no such thing as hausa-fulani.

udezue:
Amingafar, the hypocrit is you buddy. In Jos you people are trying to wipe the Berom out of their own land under the idea that u are no longer settlers but bonafide land owners even though you got the land for free from Berom morons who couldn't see your deadly hidden agenda. If you want to play that game then the Igbo must play it also. The day you tell the Igbo to vacate any part of the North they bought with their own money is the day they should purchase grenades and all kinds of weapons and pound u out of existence.

I have already said I am not hausa or fulani you tribalistic pig. There are more tribes in the north than south you are very ignorant.

Onlytruth:
^^
Also tell this goat amingafar that he is not Hausa or even a northerner.
If he is a northerner, then I am a Yoruba.

Any goat can create a user account and claim to be from anywhere.

you are a yoruba then, I have STATED THAT IM NOT HAUSA OR FULANI I am mixed with Nupe, fulani, igalla and yoruba. so how can I be hausa-fulani?

Just because im a northerner doesnt mean Im a hausa-fulani. Im a muslim Northerner that is what I consider myself.

udezue:
Charity begins at home hence the Igbo have no business developing another man's land unless he is ready with his guns cocked to defend his turf after all he bought it with his own money.

hypocrite How can you say charity begins at home then say igbo defend you property at cost in another mans land?

Afterall igbos are safe in the north as long as they "mind their tongues"
SOME ACTUALLY WANT TO KILL IGBOS JUST TO TAKE OVER THEIR BUSINESSES

Ironic

Dry but look at his opponents- they are even 19 times worse than GEJ

I think hes gonna win and The Northern elders will be held responsible for not looking in the nothern youth for a better candidate.

[quote author=Akin-Egba link=topic=515783.msg6778096#msg6778096 date=1284838439]You mean northerners will not vote for Jonathan? And you also mean IBB will not hand over power to an Igbo as he promised, if the Igbos help him to win?[/quote]even the word "Handover" gives me an awkward feeling. IBB cannot handover something that is not his or the mandate of northerners.

Mko abiola was voted for by many northerners even my father- but it didnt become a problem until the "core north" realized how much he divided the north was over him and kingibe. who are both not hausa or fulani

Had he become president And Kingibe after there would be no "One north". Nothing is handed to anyone in Nigeria Mko Abiola took it Obj just benefitted from his death.

Obsanjo tried to split the north , he managed to split the christian middle belt, but what is need is a muslim to split the muslim minorities from the core Hausa-fulani tribes.

[quote author=Akin-Egba link=topic=515783.msg6778096#msg6778096 date=1284838439]You mean northerners will not vote for Jonathan? And you also mean IBB will not hand over power to an Igbo as he promised, if the Igbos help him to win?[/quote]"Northerners"( NE + middle belt) will vote for Jonathan But the core 6-7 "NW" hausas-fulanis states wont. Jonathan has the power of incumbancy which he accidently gained by the death of yaradua. There nothing the core north can do about that, especially since they are fielding IBB a candidate that will lose to Buhari.

As for the igbo president unless Banbangida dies in office I dont see it happening.

in regards to the topic I dont think there can ever be an igbo president by northern vote and without incumbency.

The reason I say that is its a known fact that The northern elite have instilled in the minds of minority muslim tribes that southern christians particularly igbo are against islam. So How do they expect us to turn around and vote for them?

IBB is lying and he knows that the sultan of sokoto cannot and will not ask the north to vote for a southerner over a northerner. It just wont happen.

Onlytruth:
Dude I just woke up from sleep. You sleep, don't you?

Anyway, like I said, I'm not impressed. My heart goes out to Goodluck because I see him as a product of struggle. I put myself in his shoes to feel how far he has come. So, naturally I feel for him. But I'm looking for a leader, and I still don't know if he is that leader.

As for the occassion, Obasanjo's absence speaks volumes. I don't buy that his "neutrality" bullcrap. Obasanjo is never neutral. 

Obasanjo is pushing Jonathan everyone knows that, He doesnt have to be there for the north to notice this monkey Jonathan is being pushed by Obasanjo gorilla.

Like father and son. I dont blame the duo I blame the leaders in the north who didnt push a younger fresher candidate IBB of all northerners? It still angers me.

Fulanis like the yorubas but the yorubas are not budging.

The way there is fulani-hausas the fulanis want to make it yoruba-fulanis but the hausas dont like that.
I was in bida, Niger state when I realized that fulanis have a liking for yoruba muslims maybe because the yorubas are more intelligent than hausas.

Sultan of sokoto continues to send invitations to the Oba of oyo who is muslim, I think they even named the Oba of Oyo chancellor of "Uthman dan Fodiyo University"

Pure fulanis also dont like Pure Hausas- very complicated with islam in the north.

MaziUche0:
Yoruba are house boys of the Hausa.

Igbos have been marginalized. So who are we assisting? We arguably control Nigeria through finances. That is a fact. When you control the money, you control everything.

No yorubas cannot be trusted by hausas Its a known fact that the fulanis elite try to align themselves with yorubas. Hausas have always been jealous of the yeribas. In the north Yorubas are liked by everyone except hausas and hausas-fulanis.

and Igbos dont control Nigeria  the politics do.

MaziUche0:
What did we Igbos have to gain from the coup?

We were already on top. . . Our position was secured!

So to answer my own question, it was nothing.

That is why it could not have been an Igbo Coup. We basically controlled Nigeria.

dede1 response

Dede1:
When I wrote that sound logic is alien to many Nigerians, I meant every word in the sentence. If Ndigbo were perceived to have dominated every aspect of Nigeria society of the era in discuss, why on earth would Ndigbo precipitate coup?

Dede1:
Your plank of the argument has become so pathetic. Ndigbo did not dominate the armed forces of Nigeria as detractors would want us to believe. However, Ndigbo dominated the officers’ cadre of the armed forces of Nigeria.

There were very few Igbo officers in the high echelon of Nigerian army as of January 1, 1966. Besides Ironsi, Ojukwu, Unegbe and Obienu, there was no other Igbo military officer with command position in the armed forces or even police. Below is example of command position of Nigerian armed forces as of January 1, 1966 excluding Igbo officers.

Chief of Staff, Supreme HQ Ogundipe (Yoruba)
Chief of Staff, Army Col Robert Adebayo (Yoruba)
Chief of Staff, Navy Commodore Wey (Yoruba)
Deputy Chief of Staff, Army Col Kur Muhammad (Fulani)
Adjutant Gen, Lt Col James Pam (Tiv)
Commandant NMTC, Lt Col Shodinide (Yoruba)
IGP. Edet (Efik)

1st Brigade Ademulegun (Yoruba)
2nd Brigade Maimalari (Kanuri)
1st Battalion, Lt Col Fajuyi (Yoruba)
2nd Battalion, Lt Col Gowon (Angas)
3rd Battalion, Lt Col Kurobo (Ijo)
4th Battalion, Lt Col Abogo Largmann (Tiv)
1st Racce Katsina (Fulani)

It very disingenuous on your part to even insinuate the countercoup of July 29, 1966 was organized by NCOs.

hypocrite

MaziUche0:
Assist a illiterate northerner? God forbid.

We just understand you all have the political power.

Just don't come between an Igbo man and his money and everything will be alright.

so what do you think you have been doing since independence?

TewMuch:
, Chai Igbo's don suffer. Too much using and abusing.

theres nothing wrong it in that we give Igbo business men contracts also. Equal share.

we should all stick to what we are good at politics northerners igbo business

say no to IBB and yes to saraki or Atiku

Ibb isnt the best we have in pdp north I like saraki and atiku more

nonsense igbos are not junior partners they just assisst us in Managing Nigeria.

The north Politics- The igbo business.

it is a known fact that we in the middle belt, have agriculture, steel, coal, iron-it may not be as much as Oil but still it would do for employment. Im tired of the Militants holding the country hostage. We in the middle are helpless as we are in the middle.

The SE has Oil, Coal, Gas.
The NE has uranium, Oil, Gas in the Niger Basin and agriculture

The region that will surprise everyone will be the SW- they might act as if they have few resources but it is a LIE , They have Oil, Gas, billions of barrels of heavy crude. In the early 2000's Oil was found in intheir coastal states, also their high amount of educated elite.  
Only allah knows what they have been hiding

The NW will be a problem