Flying caskets

VAPatrick:
Someone who hasn't travelled outside Nigeria will never understand. There is no basis for comparison between Nigeria and a developed country. In terms of everything, I mean everything, countries like Australia, UK and Canada are way ahead of Nigeria. Having said that, the decision to relinquish one's job as a manager in Nigeria for a low level job (e.g. forklift operator) in Australia is personal, which we should all respect. Besides, no one migrates with the primary objective of taking up a cleaning or fork lift operator job. For most people already at the middle or top level of their careers, they take up these jobs to survive, pending when they land their ideal jobs.

For me, if I am to choose between being a bank manager in Nigeria and forklift operator in Australia, I'll go with the latter. As a forklift operator in Australia, I will live a good life and provide a better future for my children. Even if I decide to return to Nigeria after 25 to 30 years, I'll live very comfortably, far better than I would have, had I been a bank manager.

To reiterate, no basis for comparison, and respect people's decisions. Shalom!

It's better to be a king in hell than a slave in heaven

jedisco:


You can't separate emergent, urgent and routine care- its manytimes a continum. There is a reason your presidents have spent months abroad on health grounds. Even with full access to the national chest and every local physician at their call, they still scurried abroad. The average general hospital in the UK is more equipped than all medical centresvin many states of our nation.

Secondly, which class of home based Nigerians do you think are buying houses abroad or sending their kids to school abroad? I recently met a high court judge who's who has been frantically looking to relocate his family. There is a reason for that.

Look at the pyramid, why do you think health and safety are level 2?

We've been through this before- point is there is a litany of safetynets and life necessities/enjoyments average westerners see than even the rich in Nigeria only dream of. No need listing them. When I've asked before, take away 'enjoyment' due to rampant poverty around, what else does a rich person in Nigeria enjoy?

I know many business owners here in Nigeria that aren't even politically exposed that have homes abroad

Usefulsense:


The man who inducted me in the warehouse where I work is 65. He is a made man. He told me he comes around to work because there is no one to stay at home with.

This man has about two houses he receives rent from every week. The rent is enough to pay his bills for life.

As per accounting work, I already rejected one because they wanted me to sign an undertaking that I will never leave before completing one year.

The pay they offered is exactly what I'm earning in the warehouse. I made it clear that if I must sign the undertaking, I will need at least 10Aud on top of my current earnings.

Bros, I will move into accounting before the end of April. Some recruitment firms are already on my case.

However, if I don't get it, I'm already doing better than I was doing while in Nigeria.

you still don't get it...everything ain't about dollars and cents...stop looking at life that way bro

Where do you want to be in the next 10 - 15yrs

Do you still want to be earning hourly pay or do you want to retire and let people work for you ?

chidi4sam:


You are so misinformed. How much is ticket that people in Australia cannot afford? Let me shock you, I have not seen one begger in Australia. Whoever the person is, not withstanding his visa status, everyone is OK here. I can get my to and fro ticket fee by working only on Sunday. Australia pays the highest wages when compared to Canada, UK, and even US (in some companies). Use your google and search about it instead of displaying your ignorance online.

you think long haul flight isn't expensive..don't worry

jedisco:


Did you read his post?

He said with what he knows today, if he was 52 and earning double he would still have gone.

Stop, think through that before criticising.

I said I wish him luck

jedisco:


Its would be a multitude times easier for him to travel the world on his current job than for someone earning 2 million monthly in Nigeria to do same.

the people I know for years now that are in Brisbane, Adelaide hasn't even afford to come back to Nigeria for years now...Na the world they wan travel

Bossman:
What percentage of Nigeria's population in your quoted age group are retired and traveling the world?

I said I wish him luck

Gerrard59:


Not again!!!

Unless he intends to return to Nigeria later in life, why the conversion? Is he spending naira in Australia? Just as I stated above, returning has to be planned now or else, he will be in Australia for the rest of his life, as flying to Nigeria would not be feasible unless he gets quite rich to afford it. Remaining in Australia for the rest of his life erodes whatever AUD to NGN conversion you have there.

His earnings and expenses are in AUD, stick to it. Nothing concerns NGN in Australia.

No mind them...always converting like bureau de change ...like say Na Naira dem dey spend there

Gerrard59:


This is an interesting tale for Nigerian immigrants who live in far-flung places. As they age, they should make plans regarding who they marry and where they will want to retire because travelling between a place like Australia and Nigeria is not feasible continuously compared to a Nigerian in, say, Germany or the UK.

So, one should be mindful of who he marries while in Australia, how many children they have and where exactly they wish to retire vis-a-vis physical assets they will own.

The truth is that many of them their wives push them into this decision. I know many of them and soke regret it and while some hide it

That's the truth !

chidi4sam:


That is in Nigeria. People are still active even at 80 years in Australia.

been active at 80 is different and working at 80 is different

I want to retire at 58 plus .. that is what I want of life ..then I can travel around

Gerrard59:


OK. Point noted.



If the person was a truck pusher or Danfo driver while in Nigeria? Yes. But an accountant who was earning 1.1 million naira doing sheet packing? NO.

Please, let's fear God when we use the phrase "decent life".

Thank you.

someone who is an accountant earning 1 million plus and leaving Nigeria to be a forklift driver in Australai hasn't made much progress..he is at the lower ring of career ladder there and that's the truth ...

It's like been a medical director in Nigeria to travel and be a truck driver ...the person hasn't made progress in career ...that's the truth. Forget all the money . Within him he will know the truth and will tell himself the truth forget these things ....

That's the way I measure progress...notdollar and cents ! At 48 yrs he is a forklift driver how long will he work and click career ladder in Australia...maybe 15 yrs or plus ...then calculate his age

Gerrard59:


This is an interesting tale for Nigerian immigrants who live in far-flung places. As they age, they should make plans regarding who they marry and where they will want to retire because travelling between a place like Australia and Nigeria is not feasible continuously compared to a Nigerian in, say, Germany or the UK.

So, one should be mindful of who he marries while in Australia, how many children they have and where exactly they wish to retire vis-a-vis physical assets they will own.

Exactly that is what I am saying...many people in Australia don't even have that money for ticket to come back and they will not invest home...so I don't even envy them...I wish them luck

I want to retire in Nigeria and travel around the world for weeks and come home ...I enjoy Naija

chidi4sam:


How many kids are their destinies sucured in Nigeria if not for the rich? Drugs have destroyed more lives in Nigeria than Western countries. Give your children good parental training and they won't join LGTBQ.

is that so...which drugs or is USA or Australia drug free

Usefulsense:


Who told you I started life afresh?

In Nigeria, I worked for a private company where you're treated like a slave and where people are sacked on daily basis.

I took the best decision to live Nigeria. Here, I am working. I am not begging.

My life here is even better than what it was back home in Nigeria.

You're shouting plan your retirement. Who told you I am not planning my retirement?

If I work here for the next 3 years, I will have a 3 story building of 8 flats somewhere in the East.

Can #2m net salary a month do that for me in Nigeria?

In Nigeria, my gross pay was about #1.3 million per month and my take home is #1.057m.

Here in Australia, despite the fact that I have not fully integrated into the system, I comfortably save 1,600 dollars per month out of the 4,000 dollars I make.

By the time I fully integrate into the system ( like getting Australian drivers license, there are jobs you cannot get without an Australian license) there is no way I won't earn more than that.

For your information, there is dignity of labour here. You don't talk down on people here.

I am not under any pressure. I didn't migrate at 48 to look for papers. Our papers are already coming this year through my wifey.

no wahala...I wish you luck. At 55 - 60 one should be retired travelling around yhe world. That is my perspective not learning forklifting at 48

Usefulsense:


This your person came in as an illegal immigrant. I can tell you that for free.

As an illegal immigrant, you will see shege.

No body comes in through legal means and stays up to 10 years without going home. Except the person decides not to.

In Australia, even if you're packing shit or faeces, you will live a decent life.

Life is much better here.

I hear you...someone that has her papers and kids there but money to enter flight come Nigeria is an issue

boringdraw:
You clearly missed the part he said he has more savings by month end, and a more quality life than when he was here.
His a first generation migrant, his children will be second generation, they will have it far much better and easier than him. Most people migrate for thier children.

Points to Consider when relocating
1. Net savings after tax and monthly expenses
2. Quality of life
3. Personal career prospect and that of other family members
4. Life in retirement

after all these...I still have someone that is in Australia for over 10 yrs ...the person seff is finding it hard to secure air ticket to come home with his family


How una dey take look some of us ...una think say we are daft ?

chidi4sam:


LOL. Be playing. Why do you go to work if not to make money and enjoy. He can save 4-5M monthly in Australia even after expenses as compared his total take home of less than 1M as an account in Nigeria.

And yes, Australian lifestyle makes you active even at old age. People of 90+ years and still driving and walking without assistance here because of their lifestyle. Someone in Nigeria is already too old for anything at 60.

Lastly, you stand a chance of securing the destiny of your children for ever by becomimg citizens in the nearest futher. The money he spent to relocate will be recovered in less than 6 months. Australia is not lousy like UK, Canada, US. Just relax, make your money and enjoy life.

the way una talk...so destiny of those millions of kids in Nigeria aren't secured also he stand the chance of having his kids enter LGTBQ woke group and do drugs also

chidi4sam:


LOL. Be playing. Why do you go to work if not to make money and enjoy. He can save 4-5M monthly in Australia even after expenses as compared his total take home of less than 1M as an account in Nigeria.

And yes, Australian lifestyle makes you active even at old age. People of 90+ years and still driving and walking without assistance here because of their lifestyle. Someone in Nigeria is already too old for anything at 60.

Lastly, you stand a chance of securing the destiny of your children for ever by becomimg citizens in the nearest futher. The money he spent to relocate will be recovered in less than 6 months. Australia is not lousy like UK, Canada, US. Just relax, make your money and enjoy life.

he can save 4 - 5 million monthly...dey play !

Abi you dey tell person wey no get people for Aussie

Well, ignorance is bliss ... At that age he should be planning retirement and not emigration to go and start life again

That's my own opinion and I think I have right to that

Usefulsense:
Before I commence my story, I want to specifically thank those who advised me not to travel. Your advise was borne out of genuine love and concern. One stated clearly that I should not leave known for unknown.

However, taking the bold step to leave Nigeria at the time I did was the best decision I ever made in my life. In fact, given the same scenario and even if I am 52 and my salary was #2million per month, I will still leave Nigeria.

The first 2 months was very difficult. The mistake I made was my insistence on getting accounting job. I did over 60 applications and all of them were rejected. I have no Australian experience neither do I have Australian certification.

My wifey was indeed an angle in human form. She provided the needed support. She shouldered all the financial responsibilities all by herself. This is the part that almost pushed me into depression. As an Igboman, we consider it a taboo for our women to feed, house and cloth us.

After two months, I decided it was time to re-strategize. I enrolled for a forklift training and within two week, I obtained my forklift license.
Not satisfied with that, I took some courses and did some checks that will qualify me to go into disability support work. I obtained First aid certificate, Diploma in mental health, certificate in infection prevention and control, certificate in care for the aged and disabled, police check, working with children checks, NDIS worker check, NDIS orientation certificate and many more.

I started applying for warehouse jobs. In fact, I had to reject a lot of them. I settled for one of the warehouses and it has been awesome working for the organization.

I have not gotten what I am looking for yet. I am using the warehouse to keep body and soul together. In the warehouse where I work, you will see people of different ages. from 18 years to 65 years working and making a good living. in Australia, there is always something to do.

The only thing I miss, is the big man mentality we have in Nigeria. Where I will sit in my office, call one of my staff in intercom and ask for a cup of coffee; and it will be brought to me in seconds. You can't try that rubbish here.

The level of security here is top notch. I have no fear, i move about anytime of the day/night.

After one week in Australia, I concluded that Nigeria is a completely lawless country and an animal jungle. Here everything is ordered. I am yet to hear a driver blow his car horn while driving. There are no touts, there are no omoniles. Electricity has never blinked for one second. water is constant, gas is there. I have never seen two persons fighting in the street. I have never seen a mad man or woman on the road or street beggars. The air we breath here is different from the air we breath in Nigeria.

It was in Australia that I realized that the saying in Nigeria that Nigerian police is your friend is actually true. Break the law in Nigeria and police catches you, just give them #2,000 you are off the hook. And the circle of lawlessness continues. Here, it is a different ball game. Proposing bribe will be used as evidence against you. It doesn't matter who you are. Every one is civil.

While in Nigeria I suffered malaria every month. There is no month I don't treat malaria. Since I got to this country, I have never had headache let alone malaria.

Children are doing wonderfully well at school and are already speaking through their nose.

In conclusion, I made the best choice. Even though I have not really found the kind of job I want to do, the little I am doing now contributes in paying bills and I have savings more than my monthly gross per month in Nigeria.

If you are above 45 years and have your partner already in this country, and you are an employee of a company, it is in your best interest to leave Nigeria. Provided, of course, that you are healthy and you are not lazy.

One dark side to moving abroad is that you have more chances of being divorced by your wife. This is a story for another day as I have gathered enough reason on why families divorce and will create a thread on this someday.


I am open to any question you may have.

At 48yrs that you were at the top of your accounting career earning good money in Nigeria, you spent millions to travel to Australia only to go and be learning forklifting and mental health and care giving job at 48yrs when you should be planning retirement

I know say na your wife push you into this...most of the men na their wives dey


I wish you luck sir ....they way it is you will work till your 70s! How do you guys even take such decision

Airlord2030:
must you inferior tribe always involve yoruba in everything you do?

We don't fancy or care about igboland here. I mean it is an unpleasant place.

stick to fighting yourselves like you doing on this thread, and stop mentioning yorubas in your nonsense.

Yoruba calling people inferior tribe ...Oya go and get Ilorin !

mu2sa2:
From personal experience with a 4k-resolution hisense tv and online reviews I have seen, hisense tv screens have lifespans of 3-5 years. Mine suddenly crashed at 31/2 years (this no be village people o but chinko wahala). Worse still, replacement parts are hardly available in the market, if at all. I rate LG tvs as overall best for audio/video quality, reliability and durability (with spare parts available yanfu-yanfu).

I have used my Hisense for 6 yrs now....it has fallen, back split yet the picture is solid .

I don't hang TV so my dog falls em

Wannabenz:
Samsung is the best in TV picture quality and sound and it's also a strong product. you should've buy tokunbo 75inches Samsung if you can't afford the new one than wasting your money on other products. Hisense na low budget LG.

Sony Bravia is the best in picture

Chetas81:
EGBA PEOPLE LOVE THIS, BOTH THEY'RE MEN AND WOMEN

and they are Yoruba

JagabanB:

I'm not from SW.
I gave u example with those I studied with and not a single one of the 7 lgb0s I schooIed with came out with 2.1

now you are saying 2:1

MrGerald:
If the publish number of graduates and SE tops they'd say Igbos trained their kids with drug money, I read such sometime ago very bad

Yoruba are noisy and escapist

Here in Lagos I have seen many and tons of Yoruba youths that can't even understand pidgin and in banks they can't even till teller

omoadeleye:
Guess lawyers from South East just went to practice Business law while lawyers from other regions are busy learning the real law.

one thing I like Igbo is that the legal market in South East and South South are in their hand full grip ! 100% of clients in South East are handled by Igbo lawyers while 60% of clients in South South wmare handled by Igbo lawyers then in South West over 35% of clients in Lagos are handled by Igbo lawyers

So do the maths where they went to and who is gaining

Benwallt:


Gani fawehinmi

Afe Babalola

Wole olanipekun.

No Igbo lawyer living or dead can or has reached their point.

Mind you, I just pick these three from the pool.

Kenneth Okonkwo, the greatest lawyer from South East was carrying files for his client in court

Yoruba and I get am before mentality ...do you know Olisa Agbakoba

Do you know justice Eboe Osuji ..he was the world court judge ...has any Yoruba gotten there.. so many of them are Igbo


You guys should stop been noisy

JagabanB:

Many SE people have d attitude of dropping out along the way, I have that experience when we were studying engineering.
The most dropouts were lgb0s with the excuse that degree don't create wealth so u can't bIame others.
Admission is not graduation.

to show how Educated you are...simple show us studies or statistics to support your postulation. That's how academic submission are made


I don't know the kind of education you guys get in South West....very emotional less logical

Thormentor:
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#Statisense
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No Igbos are traders...they are busy selling motor parts and gala by the streets ....so did the clowns say.

They don't know that Igbo have left them since

Hamas is a Muslim group fighting for Islam ...we know what they can do and this is one of them

That's why they are called ISLAMISTS

Coldkev17:
You can never see a yoruba who discriminate amongst each other on ethnicity and religious matter, they romance peacefully regardless of their religion.
They openly/carefully accept every tribe in marriage.

I currently have a Igbo girl friend, 20, who her parents always tell her it's a NO-NO answer if they bring a Yoruba man in the future. She's born and raised in SW

She's so baffle with this discrimination from her biased parent

Talk about yours?

I have seen many Yoruba that don't allow their kids to marry Ijebu ...some see Egba as backward while soke see Ondo as river folks