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Martinez19:
when good things happen to you, they say God's favour is upon you, but when a Christian dies untimely, they will say God gives and takes or he knows best or he can't be questioned. Just negodu

A preacher that can't predict simple election, how can he forsee disaster like this?

Oh Dear, you are a heartless soul.

In a time and place such as this you bring this up?

May you never find anyone to stand by you in your time of grief. May you receive exactly what you give to others, in the name of Jesus i pray.

4everGod:
There has been a lot of Mixed reactions and feelings since this gory avoidable incident took away calmness from the hearts of many when carelessness and lack of construction ethics caused something ever so avoidable to snuff out precious lives.

This is not the time though to apportion blames as that would happen naturally later. However this is time to rally around the living and offer them comfort and a shoulder to lean on.

However while we do that i would like to drop this short tribute to those who left us yesterday in Akwa Ibom.

We were plus 60.

Before December 10th, we would wake up with a list of “Don’t Forgets”
Don’t forget to wash your face
Don’t forget to brush your teeth
Don’t forget to do your homework
Don’t forget to wear your jacket
Don’t forget to clean your room
Don’t forget to take a bath

After December 10th, we wake up with a list of “Remembers”
Remember to greet the sun each morning
Remember to enjoy every meal
Remember to thank your parents for their hard work
Remember to honor those who keep you safe
Remember to value each person you meet
Remember to respect other’s beliefs

Now we are minus 60

May God give their families the fortitude to bear the losses. We thank God for the lives they lived regardless of how short it was....we are consoled that LIFE WAS LIVED before death!

To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven.” – Ecclesiastes.

PS: Can we please drop all sentiments and arguments aside and just drop a few kind words for the families and children left behind! Its a time to bond and not to further divide.

Mynd44, lalasticlala, seun can we get more input from people via the front page?

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Oh Dear.

Ranchhoddas:
Ecc 9:11 I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise, nor riches to men of understanding, nor favour to men of skill, but TIME and CHANCE happens to them all...The person I quoted was talking about how his hard work and enterprise has led to his wealth and success, as opposed to lazy and slothful people whose poverty and failure is a result of their laziness

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That verse, if it's anything to go by, says otherwise. 'Time and chance' as used therein refers to an element that is outside our control, a factor at work regardless of our efforts or lack of.

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In my little over two decades of existence, I have found this to be very true, there is always a variable which could have changed everything. This should teach the high and mighty to be thankful and humble and the low and lowly to not despair too much because time and chance does indeed happen to all of us

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Cc: skyhighweb, Anas09

I agree with you, but not totally. What we should peruse here is what Solomon means by Time & Chance.

Some preacher said something once that i will always keep inside.

He said, "When preparation meets Opportunity, a Miracle happens". That is the best i can come up with the interpretation of TIME & CHANCE.. because God Himself hates idleness. He hates sluggishness, He hates Laziness.

God said explicitly that a lazy man should not be given food.

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
2 Thessalonians:3:10

Good News Translation 2 Thessalonians 3:10 While we were with you, we used to tell you, “Whoever refuses to work is not allowed to eat.”

MrDynamic:
Wow that's nice to know. Am a winner. Where is your assembly?

Am in ph o

Ranchhoddas:
The dictionary is carnal? My God!

Yes the dictionary is Carnal. Depending on what u take carnality to mean. Did you see my definition of love?

Byw, i still haven't seen your previous mention.

MrMontella:
hello brother!
Mention this monicker henceforth@the bolded...raphiemontella went on a vacay...he travelled and said i should substitute for him

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On your incest...

Explain..

Under Your Theistic doctrine,which is under the dictation of your supreme being who is the source of morals..

1)The world was populated by incestuous relations...not once but twice...


2)Your theistic supreme being...
Blessed an incestous marriage




3)Your God's tight paddy,,if not his bestfriend;Moses was the product of an incestuous marriage...




Moralize these instances..

I wonder how you are in real life. Your mouth is full of filth. You are dirty man. Does atheism permit filth?

Blackfire:
hi

Hello. Hayu bin?

4kings:
@bolded, I thought it(the questions) was to either proof or disprove whether one was a true believer or not.

You or him? Did you have his experinces? I have never known you as a believer or a Giant in Signs and Wonders as he puts it.

But, you were giving me your personal expericnes rather than his.

Wen you accepted to stand in for him, i thought you'll connect with him for him to furnish you with the info you need to defend him.

I dont have issues with you. You have never come out here calling out insults on Yahweh whom you worked and with before.

LightandDarkness:
Jacobs wives Rachel and Leah were his cousins hence incest.

Exodus 6:20 And Amram took him Jochebed his father's sister to wife; and she bare him Aaron and Moses: and the years of the life of Amram were an hundred and thirty and seven years. Moses and Aaron products of incest

Exodus 15:20 And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances. If miriam is Aarons sister isn't she also moses's sister? Therefore their relationship was incest.

Instead of asking why atheists don't support incest maybe the theists should ask themselves the dame question. And also ask why God didn't condemn any of this

When was this law given? Was it before or after Egypt?

PastorAIO:
Genesis 29:

14 Then Laban said to him, “You are my own flesh and blood.” After Jacob had stayed with him for a whole month,
15 Laban said to him, “Just because you are a relative of mine, should you work for me for nothing? Tell me what your wages should be.”
16 Now Laban had two daughters; the name of the older was Leah, and the name of the younger was Rachel.
17 Leah had weak eyes, but Rachel had a lovely figure and was beautiful.
18 Jacob was in love with Rachel and said, “I’ll work for you seven years in return for your younger daughter Rachel.”



Genesis 20:12
And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.

I have explained that you in another post.

Who was Laban? A Syrian or a Jew?

Who was Abram? A Mesopotemian or Jew?

Abram was a Mesopotemian married according to their custom, Abraham was a Hebrew a Friend of Yahweh.

At the time of ignorance(Before the law was given), the Lord Winked at...

akintom:
How does writing my name make you feel?

*help your invocation and incantation to be more effective?

*sending your "spiritual" arrows to my real name, as against my moniker, will help your magic to be precise?

*You're now perplexed and dried of useful rebuttals?

You know what? am real, visible and known atheist.

Deal with that.

You think i care you are?
Guy, if i ever remember to mention your name is to ask God to have Mercy on you and deliver you from the deciver.

You are not yourself. Its like a coupse locked inside a house up in flames, it can't get up to get away from the fire. Inferno doesn't hurt a coupse, the real person has left the body. thats how it is with a man dead in spirit.

If i ever call you, is to ask God to give life to your spirit.

Satan is seating heavily on you. The Menacles over you are thick, you need hlep. Dont be afraid, I may sound harsh to guys here, but I cry for you in the place.of prayer.

He will reach you.

Ranchhoddas:
Check your dictionary!

Thats the difference between you and i. You go carnal, i go spiritual. We can't mix.

Love is a rejection of self for the benefit of the underserving. Can you find this in the dictionary?

ScienceWatch:
You have ended your augment well, ANAS09, Talk is cheap, but brandy cost money !

Millions of people world wide dont have to tolerate "cheap talkers" disguised as "PASTORS" any longer.
Thanks to Emmanuel TV and youtube.com

Here Jesus Christ explains who he is and why He came into the world.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the True God, but by me.
Joh 17:18 What I was sent into the world to do, I also sent them into the world to do the same.

Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father.

Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV.

Here Jesus Christ explains who he is and why He came into the world.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the True God, but by me.

Joh 17:18 What I was sent into the world to do, I also sent them into the world to do the same.

Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father.

Today, the whole world is blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV.

Okay sir. I just couldnt read all because i know you'll be all about singing TBJushua instead of Jesus.

I only read the 'Talk is cheap but Brandy costs money' part, and then lafed.

Whose apostle are you? Christ's or TB Jushua's?

Dont bother with a response pls. I can't stand it.

shadeyinka:
On the outside, they want to sound like a champion. They pretend they are fearless. They carry an air of gnostism (they are too sure) however, they have to constantlybcome to the religious section of NL to keep their sanity.

Why their obsession for God. Isn't He supposed to be like father Christmas: how many adult Christians have been obsessed with Father Christmas?

Its their dilemma. Trying to convince themself that they are correct about their stance. Smh

Pity is what i feel for them really. I pray for the shackles of bondage to be broken off them.

shadeyinka:
Self worship!

Oh, I see.

Since satan turn Man away from God, that is what he has been trying to make man do. As much as man has been trying to reach out to the Supernatural, satan still truncates his access to God by giving man religion.

akintom:
That "true" Christianity is being effectively wiped out now. Consider the following:

* Christian messages and dominantly about material success, witchcraft hunting, leadership, relationships seminars, comedy and dance hall songs night shows.

* fetish and idolatrous (Christian branding of traditional religion) materials eg mantle, olive oil, armband, stickers chaplets, have effectively replace the rebellious nazarene.

* right here, atheistic thoughts and threads have dominated the NL apologists.

Whatever you meant by "true" Christianity is not religion, is definitely from your written dictionary.

Laughing my eyes out right now. Rebellious Nazarene?
Where did i hear that before? Oh wait!!!, Thats what Satanists call Jesus of Nazareth in the Kingdom of satan.

Poor you.

Listen up. All you just mentioned up there are satans ways of infiltration Christianity, planting errors and damnable heresies. He will fail just like he has been failing from the start

He tried to replace Christianity with rituals and demons worship in Catholicism, Reformation was given birth to. He brought in dogmas and scarttered denominations to tears us apart, we are still here.

Christianity or the Church is not Deeperlife, Redeemed Christian Church of God, neither is it Living Faith Church.

Christinaity is like the Wind, you can feel it, but you can't tell where its coming from or where it's going. You have to come up with ways to contain the Wind if not, hahahahahahahahahahaha.

Upon the Rock, I shall build my Church and the GATES OF HELL, shall not prevail against it.

Akin Thomas. Tell your Master that Christianity is a revelation of the Kingdom of God. Its invincible/invisible.

You failed before you started.

hopefulLandlord:
I might be wrong about who is behind it but I'm pretty sure that person isn't new, all monickers created on 26th Nov 2016 and whose first post is on the Hardmirror thread minutes after creating the monicker isn't really new

HopefulLandlord, you yourself are relatively new in NL, except you have been here with another handle.
In that thread I saw monikers that, as far as I have been in this religion section, they have never been here. If they come here they don't comment. How i know? I fellowed a friend here who pulled me to their domain. Some of started follwing me and i them too. With that, i got to know them. Many of those monikers came to Religion section because of that thread. As they were coming, they were mentioning more of those who were never here.

Do you know how many left being in the ghost mode and registered accounts because of that thread? Alot attested to that. So, pls.

KingEbukasBlog:
I was studying the origin of religion yesterday night when I discovered that . While atheism came during the final centuries of BCE (about 2,500 years ago) . Religion has always been with man .

Religion actually started immidiately man realized that he had Fallen and the Domain (Kingdom) given to him by God to Dominate was no longer in his control.

He began a quest to reach God with the hope to appaese God in other to get back his throne, but who did he meet there? Satan. Satan started ushering out rituals for him to perform. If you do this, you' get that.

Religion was given birth to.

Religion is Man's quest for the divine, the supernatural, with the sole purpose to appease for the wrong done. But Man was not meant to look for God,

God has always been the one coming to man. Anytime man goes for God, he meets Satan.

God went to Adam, he went to Noah, he went to Abraham, he went to Moses, he went all the Prophets, he Came to us through Christ.
And all of these people had a personal relationship with God. One on One Relationship.

Satan/religion stands afar off from man. The more man tried to get closer in other to know better, the further satan/religion receeded into the background living man
dissatisfied the more.

Man has been made to control his fellow man through religion, while the Power given to him at creation, was to dominate and rule over only animals. Religion makes man do the exact opposite of what God commanded his people.

Satan brought in his religious tactics into Christianity again USING CATHOLICISM AS A TOOL.

Religion is Man's greatest Obstacle in life. What the atheists don't know is that Yahweh is not religious.

He is King.

Ranchhoddas:
Your detectors appear to improperly configured this morning. This is a different person.

He is suspecting everybody this days. I came back from a ban to see that he suspected one Moniker to be me.
He just fails to realize that somemany guest are following us up and can pick on some frequently used phrases we use here.

I can remember him saying, am the only one who calls him hopelesslandlord, so the moniker called him hopeless, hence, the moniker is me.

Some guy. Meanwhile, he has 5 Monikers here. Not everyone is a snitch.

Ranchhoddas:
Lol! You do not want to know love.

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I have mentioned you on that Ecclesiastes thread. I am yet to see your reply.

I didnt see the mention. Ok, will find my way there.

What is love?

Ranchhoddas:
Oga to every rule, there will always be few exceptions, are there no Christians commiting incest? In fact, majority of the incestuous people are not atheists as they always blame the Devil whenever they are caught.

You have said nothing.

akintom:
This is obviously a normal trend of civilization. Just as we still have culture that neither criminalizes or victimizes incest -

Incest is sexual activity between family members or close
relatives.

This typically includes sexual activity between people in a consanguineous relationship (blood relations), and sometimes those related by affinity , such as individuals of the same household , step relatives, those related by
adoption or marriage , or members of the same clan or
lineage .


You will do well to state this your "wonderful" logic.




You will do well to isolate yourself from bunch of NL mischievous and ignorant apologists who don't know the basic differences between religion and a mere belief system.

*an end of religion is an end of implicit and explicit idiocy and delusion, of the religious type.

*an end of religion, is an end to vicious hatred, victimization, segregation and terrorism.

*an end to religion, is an end to indoctrination of children against critical reasoning, creative thinking inhibitions, and rejection of inimical myths and superstitions.

*an end to religion, is an end to psychological traumatizing of children with horrific, monstrous and ubiquitous skydaddy, that poke nose around and will throw them to hell, if its nonsensical rules are not obeyed.




Another puerile and foolish vomit of a typical apologist, on atheistic position.

Atheists accept in the present, homosexuality as a variant and NOT deviant sexual orientation. Based on this knowledge, they shouldn't be subjected to harassment, victimization and criminalization, based on religious laws, that are in the first place not informed by any known sound or scientific reasoning.




That same logic? I have told you the definition of that "same" logic as nonsensical.



Wrong questions on wrong premises.




Non religious beliefs have advanced the world, to beautiful and beneficial level we are witnessing. As against the primitive and stone age that religion will prefer it remains.



This further confirm the disease of "over assumption in idiocy", that plagues most apologists. No one is as pathetic as a chronic case of religious delusion.

I have just one thing to say to you, As much as i do not know how you guys intent to do it, You can wipe religion out (I support it 100%), but let me imform you that, you cannot wipe Christianity out, because true Christianity is not religion.

PastorAIO:
We all have a survival instinct. Yet there are people who commit suicide.

Just because you have a few people doing something doesn't mean that Evolution hasn't by and large favoured the opposite.


ps. have you any word on Abraham's incestuous relationship with Sarai, his wife? Or Jacob's with Leah and Rebekah?

Here are the Scriptures agaisnt Incest. Except you are saying that Yahweh will put his Laws and turn around and break them.

Amplified Bible Leviticus 18:1-2,6-17,22-25

And the Lord said to Moses, Say to the Israelites, I am the Lord your God.

None of you shall approach anyone close of kin to him to have sexual relations. I am the Lord.

The unclothedness of your father, which is the unclothedness of your mother, you shall not uncover; she is your mother; you shall not have intercourse with her.

The unclothedness of your father’s wife you shall not uncover; it is your father’s unclothedness.

You shall not have intercourse with or uncover the unclothedness of your sister, the daughter of your father or of your mother, whether born at home or born abroad.

You must not have sexual relations with your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter; their unclothedness you shall not uncover, for they are your own flesh.

You must not have intercourse with your father’s wife’s daughter; begotten by your father, she is your sister; you shall not uncover her unclothedness. You shall not have intercourse with your father’s sister; she is your father’s near kinswoman.

You shall not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister, for she is your mother’s near kinswoman.

You shall not have intercourse with your father’s brother’s wife; you shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt.

You shall not uncover the unclothedness of your daughter-in-law; she is your son’s wife; you shall not have intercourse with her.

You shall not have intercourse with your brother’s wife; she belongs to your brother. You shall not marry a woman and her daughter, nor shall you take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter to have intercourse; they are [her] near kinswomen; it is wickedness and an outrageous offense.

You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Neither shall you lie with any beast and defile yourself with it; neither shall any woman yield herself to a beast to lie with it; it is confusion, perversion, and degradedly carnal.

Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, for in all these things the nations are defiled which I am casting out before you.

And the land is defiled; therefore I visit the iniquity of it upon it, and the land itself vomits out her inhabitants.

Note. In the case of Abram and Sarai. Abram married Sarai long before Yahweh called them out of Mesopotamia. They werent married according to the laws of Yahweh.

Jacob was forced, he was decieved and woodwinked by Laban who was a Syrian, (not a Jew) to marry Leah when he was in love with Rachel.

These things were done are still being done freely in Syria and other surrounding Nations. Theres still somuch incest in Islam today, but its closed up.

The Jewish law forbits it.

But Yahweh overlooked certain things as at when he hasnt given his laws yet, but when those laws were exterblished, everyone was required to live within the confinds of those laws.

Acts 17:30 God has overlooked the times when people did not know him, but now he commands all of them everywhere to turn away from their evil ways.


I will need you to point to anyother case of incest in the Bible after the law was given.

PastorAIO:
We all have a survival instinct. Yet there are people who commit suicide.

Just because you have a few people doing something doesn't mean that Evolution hasn't by and large favoured the opposite.


ps. have you any word on Abraham's incestuous relationship with Sarai, his wife? Or Jacob's with Leah and Rebekah?

You mean Jacob committed incest with his wives?

Sarai was not Abram's mother's daughter. Good try at grapping straws.

Edenoscar:
They all pretended as if it didnt exist, smh for these guys

If you have eyes you'd read that KingEbukasBlog has answered him. Most the Op respond to him again?

hopefulLandlord:
tell me why Paedophilia is not OK using quotes from your Bible

tell me where your god abolished slavery in the bible

tell me the punishment for raping virgins according to your Bible

societal laws sheets on any divine law

Keep your head above water and post the verses where the Bible commanded us to rape each other.

Or Paedophilia in the Bible? Maybe in your own not mine.

Societal laws that are set or godliness or atheism?

LambanoPeace:
Hahahahahahahahhahahahahaha


Are you kidding me? Well, let them answer if homosexuality is OK and why inbreeding isn't.

shadeyinka:
Food don't land o!
Atheism will destroy this civilization!

Yes they will, but we won't be here when they will do so. Even when the Antichrist comes, he will want to be god and be worshipped. I don't know what these people are even about.

shadeyinka:
I had to close my mind at a stage not to imagine the kind of unruly society where God is finally buried. Hope full landlord himself if he had a Dane gun will pursue you all the way to the gates of paradise on reading the about your description of the utopian society where he and his likes are the majority.

But seriously speaking, the end result of atheism is organized chaos!

This is the kind of society they want. Besides sex, they are free to kill whoever they dislike, afterall life means nothing. But pray for them to die and see.

Once, i responded to Oga at the top. I said "Dont worry very soon you shall die and then get to find out if there's God or not".
The comment sparked fear in Oga that he got me banned for 2months. He said i threatened him with death. I no fit laf. Imagine me some saying something like to me, i wont even rememeber it after 5mins. Yet someone got so rattled that he took such drastic action.

And, that's someone who doesn't believe that someone is waiting for him at the end of the road.

They have double personality issues.

The human in them has believed these things because satan said so, the demons in them can't stop thinking of hellfire that awaits them.

HardMirror:
Hehehe

the way people make noise on the internet. It's likely my dog feeds better than you. So pls spare me all those non sense and stop mentioning me anyhow if u know u have a life

By the way I know you very well (off nairaland), so chill, you aint no body.

You know me very well off Nairalnad and am tripping for you abi? Skunk.

If you have any sense at all you'd see that i didn't mention you because i needed to have a convo with you. I didn't mention you with good recommendation. For, you are like old urine stench to me.

I didn't mention you for anything which shd make you feel like somebody because you are not.
I mentioned you in the third person, bringing to remembrance the premise for our discussion with a proper human being btw.

As you can see, i was having a convo with a person not filth.
Now take your stench and go hide under some rock far from human sight.

Ranchhoddas:
People are naturally not attracted to members of their family, the same way we are naturally averse to suicide or mass murder. That is why he said that religion or culture are simply secondary regulators against such behaviour. We are evolutionarily primed to see them as wrong. That's his argument.

What is your argument?

HardMirror:
Anas seems u are in love with me, the rate at which I get mentions from you even from irrelevant posts is astounding

Hardmirror, if you meet me in person, believe me, (not boasting) you won't have the guts to think that i can look at you much less imagine that i can have you as an acquaintance.

You irritate me. I hate lies, and you are a shameless liar. Do you know that Pathological lying is a medical Condition? You make me sick.