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otemanuduno:
Funny way to assert that Jesus Christ truly existed in our own world. Now see this story also and tell me if this man didn't exist:

[b] Now there was a time in the period of the reign of Yaradua, that a man called Keandre began to perform miracle. And Keandre cured 2,000,000 people of their blindness in Nigeria. Then did he have two hundred disciples. And Otemanuduno is one of his disciples. Realmindz also is one of his disciples. And Joseff14 is another disciple of Keandre the miracle worker.

Then a time came that the president of the country called Yaradua was about to die. Then Keandre sent to him by the hand of his disciple named Hardmirror, saying, Hardmirror, go now to Aso Rock and lay your hands on Yaradua and cure him. But when Hardmirror got to Ask Rock with Johnydon22, Turai Yaradua did not allow them enter to see the president. And in 2010 the president died.

Also, Keandre has prophesied that Dagrin will die except he comes to the temple to be prayed for. But Dagrin refused and did not pay Keandre a visit. So he had accident and died.

Behold, are all these things not written in the Song of The World by Johnydon22? [/b]


What you just see here is exactly how the bible is written. They add real-life people and happenings to their fictions. The fictional characters you will never find them in any other books except in the books of their co-story writer which they referred you to. But the real-life happening happened for real.


Want more? See this...

Now in the year 2001 did I, Keandre, see a vision. And it was a vision of destruction that there was a bomb blast in Lagos. Now the vision was fulfilled on January 27, 2001 as I have said. The Ikeja Army Cantonment.



If someone writes all these things now, you will laugh because all the things has already happened before you are writing them, but after 2000 years those who read them will believe they actually happened because they will classify the period they are written and the period the things happened into the same category.

You will hear:

Written: Dated 2000AD - 2020AD
Actual Event: Dated 2000AD- 2020AD

WOW! WHAT A GREAT PROPHECY!!!

wonder where I got all these secrets from? THE DOCTUFOS; KNOLIUD 1:1-33
source: https://www.nairaland.com/3067722/mystery-prophecy

Stop skipping your meds man.

Blackfire:
u wont believe where i ve been to in my anger or curiosity or search for knowledge.

But one thing kept on been the center of attraction....
*whispers* JESUS.


jumbo size sprite + shawama, but wait o, do u want ibadan own or onitsha own ?

If you had entered their den, am not sure you'd be out here free. They won't let you. Have seen this movie, "Eyes Wide Shut?" Tom Cruise.

Onitsha own biko. Ah no want chew sand when I dey chop the shawama. And this time, not with Sprite, it's either coke cola or nothing.

Lezzlie:
DG!

Maybe I shd let you be.

ValentineMary:
Is it that u theist can't read or u just can't coherently understand simple statements? I said I believe he exist, I later said though there is no proof of his existence. That goes to show that my belief might be wrong and am not standing that it's 100% correct.

Okay, you never even was a Christ follower, you were a Mary follower, why haven't you tried finding out if Mary existed? Why so fixated on Christ? Spirit of the Antichrist

KingEbukaNaija:
Anas09 are you analice too ?

Yup

hopefulLandlord:
Hogwarts is in England, England exists, now prove to me that Harry Potter doesn't exist

oh! your proof would be the fact that the author said its fiction? the author is simply trying to keep that place secret so that guys like you don't go there for admission, I'm typing straight from Hogwarts right now

now, go do research and prove Hogwarts doesn't exist

LOlzzz. Is it everyone I will respond to?

crixtex:
Lol... u have read much of scofield's bible or maybe too much of kirk cameron's left behind movies...
Matthew 24: 29-31..... Jesus said Tribulation before rapture...
Also read Mark 13:24

If you are still confused after reading, quote me sir... lets talk and proof..

Buh i believe i will b raptured after Jesus finds me worthy...

Which one is Scofield's Bible. I read King James, Good News and Amplified sir. And I don't follow commentators, I follow Christ.

crixtex:
Lol... u have read much of scofield's bible or maybe too much of kirk cameron's left behind movies...
Matthew 24: 29-31..... Jesus said Tribulation before rapture...
Also read Mark 13:24

If you are still confused after reading, quote me sir... lets talk and proof..

Buh i believe i will b raptured after Jesus finds me worthy...

Am not a sir. And, if you are going to prove anything using the Bible, quote it out. Don't just drop the chapter or verse. What does it say? Or I won't waste my time here.

Rossikk:
First of all, use your brain, and don't call people atheists because they don't accept your bible. One does not have to be a christian to believe in God. Muslims, Agnostics, Buddhists, Hinduists, African religionists, Taoists, and Shintoists, all believe in God. Humans have worshipped God for over 70,000 years, and your religion, christianity, is less than 2,000 years old, so please know your place.

Secondly, have you gone to Bethlehem or Nazareth, or wherever you say 'Jesus' was born to search for his family or descendants, in order to inquire about him like you prescribed? As far as we know, all you did was believe the book - even before you read it.

No I personally have not, but I have around me about 10Persons who have gone. I just don't see it as important. I don't need to go to those place to believe who Christ is.
Well mentioned all of the above, I see your problem is not with God, it's with Christ.
Okay fine sir, Christ never existed, go home now, have peace eat and drink. Do not allow Jesus talk bother you any more, just like I don't allow "New Age" bother me. But if you keep talking about this matter then, deep inside you know Jesus is truly Lord and one day you'll bow to him, that's why the whole thing is eating you up.
Take my advice and go in peace.

crixtex:
Bro, buh d book of Matthew says Christians will face d great tribulation naw....... spoken by Jesus christ himself... Great tribulation comes first before rapture.....

Matth is a whole book? Which part says Christians shall face tribulation?
Jesus said, Christians will suffer persecution not tribulation.
Tribulation will come when the Church has been taken out of the world, anyone who refuses to belief in Christ now, will be left behind, if he or she repents then, whatever the Antichrist has agaisnt those who will not accept him as God, the new believers in Christ shall face it, that's what tribulation means sir. At that time, there will be no more " by the grace of God", the grace leaves with the Holy Spirit, together with the church.

E NO GO EASY

Lezzlie:
déjà vu!

Lezzlie

Blackfire:
i ve never seen a devil or demon insult the soon coming king... Never.

But guess who do the talking ... Bags of worm like us.

*who wants suya*

Hahahahahahahaha. have you attended their gatherings to know if they dont?
I want shawama not suya.

Rossikk:
You can find hundreds of non biblical references to Caesar, Herod, Pilate, etc. But none of Jesus, Joseph, Mary, etc. Apart from one reference in the work of Josephus, now widely acknowledged to be a fraudulent interpolation.

By the way, are you aware that nobody knows who wrote the New Testament?


What relics? Oh...by the way, Israel loves your tourist dollars, so they'll be happy to show you as many "relics" as you desire.

Your arguments are completely so flawed. If not for the Catholic Church with their sense of Idolatry, no picture or image of any one single Bible character would have been seen anywhere. Even the ones around are only in their imaginations.
Mr Atheists, we are Christ followers, we don't make images. Our God is a Spirit, we worship him in spirit and in truth.
If you want images, ask the Catholics, not the Christians

Am asking you again, do you reason? So in your superior intelligent mind as an atheist, you figure that the nation of Israel, although not believers in Christ, will preserve his name and sites which they know, and the world over know as a fraud just for Dollars? Hahahahahahahahahaha
Dodn't be silly man.

Blackfire:
he is not mad, just a kid who is angry with life, probably what he asked for was not answered... Hence the gimmicks.


I once told a guy who thinks he has read or in pact with a demon who wont hesitate to insult God, Jesus and the holy spirit.
So i ask him if u are sure of yourself wake up 1 in the midnight, get yourself naked come out.. And insult Jesus son of the living God, who is the word of God, the judge of both the living and the dead.. The slain lamb who is coming back as lion of the tribe of Judea.

*guess what, he cant*.

My problem with humans is, what demons cant utter, is what tiny spec like us say without fear.

Let me stop here.

You know!! I learned something from erstwhile Melin. Remember him? The one who became a Satanist and came here to evangelize everyone to satanism? Today he has backslide from satanism to another branch of satanic worship. Satan just keeps rigmarolling them.
He admonished his followers to blaspheme Christ feircely so that, their spirit will be alienated further from Christ, hence; draw closer to Satan. If they don't say and do these things, Satan sure comes around, but can't fully have them do exactly what he intended without any interference.

SirVintageCock:
ME!!! This is pure delusion and you know it.

Hahahahahahahaha. Point out the delusion in all I posted.

crixtex:
Where is it in the bible where it.is said, rapture will occur before the antichrist comes?? Read ur bible well bro

If you need answers, you ask, dont act clever. Here it is.

Amplified Bible 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
But relative to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah) and our gathering together to [meet] Him, we beg you, brethren, Not to allow your minds to be quickly unsettled or disturbed or kept excited or alarmed, whether it be by some [pretended] revelation of [the] Spirit or by word or by letter [alleged to be] from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has [already] arrived and is here.
Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the apostasy comes first [unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition), Who opposes and exalts himself so proudly and insolently against and over all that is called God or that is worshiped, [even to his actually] taking his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.

Anyone who reads the above, sees how many people are rejecting Christ around the world and here on Nairaland but still say these things are lies, it's either he/she is dead or possessed with demons.

Raphael81:
How is the vatican setting stage for the anti christ

You don't know that the Pope will be the False Prophet to the Antichrist? Maybe you are not a Prophesy student. Go and read.

jiggaz:
Obama was never the antichrist, the people saying such are all ignorant.

The Antichrist is very much around and won't be revealed until the rapture of the church, so that he can work well. After the rapture, the Antichrist will be revealed, not before the rapture.

Obama, like many of them here functions under the controlling force, power, and influence of the antichrist. Working to set the stage for the smooth sailing of his reign.
Most people are so ignorant about these things. The Beast (The Antichrist) has just Seven years to rule absolutely, he won't have the time to put everything in place to enable him succeed, that's why world leaders at different stratas are doing that for him. Media being first in line. Atheists are here lying to themselves that they don't believe all these, when all the while they are the main agents in his hands.

SirVintageCock:
Obama is handing over soon...thought he was your Antichrist. Even Clinton, Bush, Merkel...they were all fingered as the new lord in town

You misunderstand.
There's is the "Spirit" of the Antichrist.
And, there's the "Person" of the Antichrist.
Obama and you are operating under the SPIRIT OF THE ANTICHRIST. When the main man who is the Person of the Antichrist appears, you all shall have his mark. And he can not show his face until we are gone out of here. So enjoy you time, it won't be long before your fruits starts yielding seed.

MrPresident1:
2Thessalonians 2:8
...And then shall the wicked be revealed whom...the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

The antiChrist was never away, he was only hidden. The antiChrist is the leaders and rulers of our world, the owners/runners of the grossly degenerate system. Since Christ is coming to rule the world, it means the end of their kingdom. They do not want this, but there is nothing they can do.

The Mighty One, the Great One who has the Sceptre of God, He will smash these ruling kingdoms with his rod of iron and they shall scatter like clay pots.

He is coming to rule with a rod of iron

Our Great God

Great is our God.

stonemasonn:
If rapture begins only little children will be raptured.

Really? Why so?

Weah96:
My late grandmother used to tell me about rapture excitement from her childhood in 1925. Almost 100 years later, no rapture. Your children will be old men and women when they tell stories of your own rapture adventures.

The Holy Spirit had you I mind when he gave Apt Peter this.

2 Peter 3:2-10 I want you to remember the words that were spoken long ago by the holy prophets, and the command from the Lord and Savior which was given you by your apostles.

First of all, you must understand that in the last days some people will appear whose lives are controlled by their own lusts.

They will make fun of you and will ask, “He promised to come, didn't he? Where is he? Our ancestors have already died, but everything is still the same as it was since the creation of the world!”

They purposely ignore the fact that long ago God gave a command, and the heavens and earth were created.

The earth was formed out of water and by water, and it was also by water, the water of the flood, that the old world was destroyed. But the heavens and the earth that now exist are being preserved by the same command of God, in order to be destroyed by fire.

They are being kept for the day when godless people will be judged and destroyed. But do not forget one thing, my dear friends!

There is no difference in the Lord's sight between one day and a thousand years; to him the two are the same. The Lord is not slow to do what he has promised, as some think.

Instead, he is patient with you, because he does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants all to turn away from their sins. But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief.

On that Day the heavens will disappear with a shrill noise, the heavenly bodies will burn up and be destroyed, and the earth with everything in it will vanish.

SirWere, if you read what I posted to you, you find where the Holy Spirit called you "A Scoffer". There's a reward for every task under the sun.

sobastical:
You're not far from the truth sir, for a while now I have stationed my focus of study to end time prophecies and it's been interesting seeing how the Vatican, political leaders and the media are playing a vital role in setting the stage for this end time events. By this, it is a sure pointer that the rapture is nearer than one could ever thought cos without the rapture taken place the antichrist himself can't surface. We need to preach and pray that people eyes did be open to the truth of Jesus Christ and be eternally saved.

My brother, Satan knows how short his time is, he will fight so hard to plant doubt, unbelief in minds of the people. Just imagine how tenacious the atheists in this forum are fighting to dilute the word anytime it comes. One shd be wondering why they take it so personal, their own evangelism is fierce.
His followers are positioned to do the work of thier master, by all means pulling the weak and lazy down. But the Lord knows the ones that are his.
Come O LORD Jesus, Come.

Blackfire:
@otemudo abeg sey na u swallow demon , abi na demon swallow u?

Hahahahahahahaha. Abeg ask am. The guy no well, true. I wonder why dem still allow am dey use smart phone inside YubaLeft.
*Takethephonefromhim*

otemanuduno:
Whenever something new is brought, this is what the people believing in the old things would say.

Acts 26:24

At this point Festus interrupted Paul's defense. "You are out of your mind, Paul!" he shouted. "Your great learning is driving you insane."

New Living Translation
Suddenly, Festus shouted, "Paul, you are insane. Too much study has made you crazy!"

So... You see, they also said PAUL is MAD and the write-up of that so-called MAD MAN is what you have built the foundation of your life upon today.

Hey guy, quit quoting the Bible, it shall be used to judge you, maybe Satan hasn't told you that yet.

ValentineMary:
If there is one thing I have noticed about religious people, it's that if the truth contradicts their personal belief, they would say it's illogical and not sensible. Pls tell me how does it not make sense?

You said Jesus existed, yet again, you said the events or stories were written long before he was born, so he there's no evidence he existed. Wonderful. And you are suppose to be an atheist with super IQ.
Satan will keep keeping you delusional while all the time, you'll be calling the next person delusional till you enter hellfire with him.

Lezzlie:
Congratulations to you to, runaway lovebird

Me lovebird? Who was I loving?

Rossikk:
Dude, fiction writers frequently use actual place-names and the names of kings etc, as the setting for their stories. Read Shakespeare's works for instance. So the fact you see names like Rome and Jerusalem and Herod in the bible does not mean there was a real person named Jesus.

And stop asking me to prove a negative. The onus is on YOU to prove the existence of this character. So far, you haven't done that

BTW, am not a dude. Am a chic

Rossikk:
Dude, fiction writers frequently use actual place-names and the names of kings etc, as the setting for their stories. Read Shakespeare's works for instance. So the fact you see names like Rome and Jerusalem and Herod in the bible does not mean there was a real person named Jesus.

And stop asking me to prove a negative. The onus is on YOU to prove the existence of this character. So far, you haven't done that

OK, they was a Herod, but no Jesus. There was a Pontius Pirate, but no Jesus. There was a Caesar Augustus a Historical figure, who called for a Census, which made Joseph travel with his pregnant wife to Jerusalem. But no, Christ never existed.

You started down this road. You have to give me proves beyond every reasonable doubt that Jesus never existed, then am expected at that point to convince you without any ioter of doubt that he did.
I asked you why you think the nation of Israel which till today is not a Christian Nation will choose to preserve the relics of a fraud?

THIS MAN, YOU DEY THINK AT ALL?
DO YOU THINK IF JESUS NEVER EXISTED THE WORLD WILL BE SILENT WHILE THE NATION OF ISRAEL IS TILL TODAY PRESERVING JESUS' RELICS?
SAY SOMETHING ELSE, THIS is STUPID. and am done here.
Funny enough you have not presented anything that says Christ never existed.

ValentineMary:
Jesus did exist but his story is mixed with many legends. The authors of the gospel were anonymous and it was wtitten hundreds of years after Jesus died. But there are no records of his existence though , no records of the earthquake they claimed happened at his death, no Nazareth until about 300AD, etc. So the gospel was just a made up story.

Read what you posted if it made any sense.

Rossikk:
What questions did he ask? Did Rome, Caesar, Jerusalem, Egypt, Bethlehem etc exist, and therefore?

Those locations are attachments to christ. They can work you into finding out about Christ.

Let me help you further. If am asked to prove that your great grand father existed, what I will do is, first find out your family name. Assertian which tribe bears that name, find out which clan that name is likely to come from.
I may travel to your state, then community. I will find out if they are surviving progenitors, I will ask questions from the most eldest living persons in your community.
Then I will ask if indeed a man like that ever lived or the offspring which you happen to be one, are fraudsters claiming he lived when he never existed,
That's how research is done.
I won't just seat back in the city and ask you, to prove to me your Great Grand Father existed by showing him to me live. Or giving phisical evidences that he lived. That's stupidity.
That's why the Bible calls you atheists, fools.

Rossikk:
How does the existence of those places imply that 'Jesus' existed? Achebe wrote about Eastern Nigeria under English occupation. Does that mean Okonkwo and Ikemefuna were real people?

Are you sure you read my post?
You mentioned RESEARCH, historical research, I didn't tell you to pick the Bible and read. I said use what I gave you to find out that Jesus never existed, if you can eliminate those locations, characters and Order, then you can dismiss Christ.
You asked if we have researched to find out if Christ ever existed, and I responded by saying you shd prove that he didn't first.
I went on to give you cues as you go along with your research.
Chinua Achebe was a fiction writer. He created his utopian society, using fictitious characters, and locations. But the locations, and names I Gave you are not fictitious, except you want to say they are.

Okay guy. Let's pick the points I raised and treat them.
You go first. Dismantle them, one after the other.