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Presbulg:
You know this Jesus would have just convinced us that he's God by just talking to all of them and not just to one person. Hajj takes place every year and millions of people participate. I'm sure you'd agree the better way to show people he's God is to show himself(make himself heard by the people) to everybody there.



Islam is not in any competition with any religion.

Well learned muslims actually approve Jesus(PBUH) as a prophet of God. We don't compare Prophets of God. That's what you Christians think. Mohammed(SAW) and Jesus(PBUH) came to preach the same message to people which is ' the believe and worship of one and only God). You'll never see a muslim call Jesus(PBUH) abusive names

[color=#000080][b]Transliteration:

[5:116] Wa-ith qala Allahu ya AAeesa ibna maryama aanta qulta lilnnasi ittakhithoonee waommiya ilahayni min dooni Allahi qala subhanaka ma yakoonu lee an aqoola ma laysa lee bihaqqin in kuntu qultuhu faqad AAalimtahu taAAlamu ma fee nafsee wala aAAlamu ma fee nafsika innaka anta AAallamu alghuyoobi

[5:117] Ma qultu lahum illa ma amartanee bihi ani oAAbudoo Allaha rabbee warabbakum wakuntu AAalayhim shaheedan ma dumtu feehim falamma tawaffaytanee kunta anta alrraqeeba AAalayhim waanta AAala kulli shay-in shaheedun
Arabic : Read from right to left:


(5:116) واذ قال الله ياعيسى ابن مريم ءانت قلت للناس اتخذوني وامي الهين من دون الله قال سبحانك مايكون لي ان اقول ماليس لي بحق ان كنت قلته فقد علمته تعلم مافي نفسي ولااعلم مافي نفسك انك انت علام الغيوب

‏ 5:117 ماقلت لهم الا ماامرتني به ان اعبدوا الله ربي وربكم وكنت عليهم شهيدا مادمت فيهم فلما توفيتني كنت انت الرقيب عليهم وانت على كل شئ شهيد
Sher Ali:

[005:116] And when ALLAH will say, `O Jesus, son of Mary, didst thou say to men, `Take me and my mother for two gods beside ALLAH ?' he will answer, `Holy art THOU, I could never say that which I had no right. If I had said it, Thou wouldst have surely known it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy mind. It is Thou alone WHO art the Knower of all hidden things;

[005:117] `I said nothing to them except that which Thou didst command me - Worship ALLAH, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I remained among them, but since Thou didst cause me to die, Thou, hast been the Watcher over them, and Thou art Witness over all things;[/b][/color]

Most importantly he reveals himself to those he chooses to.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Romans:8: 29-30
Do you understand what those scriptures mean?

Allah died along with Muhammed. He lived only in Muhammed's demented head. Why hadn't he revealed himself to just one Muslim since Muhammed died?
Jesus the prophet of Islam, but every Muslim he meets bcomes a christian, why?

WORDWORLD:
with reference where everyone can go and check. just as i did hardmirror. PLEASE!

Nairaland is not the Bible.

Hello. I don't really care you decide to become. I shd take the trouble to pull out a thread you denied being a Muslim? For what? Who are you? Guy, be whatever you want. Tie a noose, hang yourself for all I care. Gerrarahia
Anything you want to be, be. taa commot from here.

winner01:
God bless you too my sister. Happy Sunday.

Same to u sir. God bless.

SUPERPACK:
i never quoted u for an arguement or for ur explanation of the scripture. because ur own version of christianity without sin and consequences gave room for some pastors to misbehave, afterall their is no punishment.

Hahahahahahahaha. Ah, it's well. I didn't say there's no consequence for sin. There is, if one departs from Christ. See what the bible says about believers who willingly continue in sin after redemption.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Hebrews:10: 26-27.

But if you accept Christ and walk in his ways you are forgiven and justified.
The scriptures I posted shd be what you fight not me.
I didn't think write them.
Since your own version of Christianity is Condemnation, how have you been able to keep your Pastor straight without sin?
Look inside Bible, do weytin Bible talk, no be weytin you think. Be wise and live.

SUPERPACK:
i never quoted u for an arguement or for ur explanation of the scripture. because ur own version of christianity without sin and consequences gave room for some pastors to misbehave, afterall their is no punishment.

Hahahahahahahaha. Ah, it's well. I didn't say there's no consequence for sin. There is, if one departs from Christ. See what the bible says about believers who willingly continue in sin after redemption.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Hebrews:10: 26-27.

But if you accept Christ and walk in his ways you are forgiven and justified.
The scriptures I posted shd be what you fight not me.
I didn't think write them.
Since your own version of Christianity is Condemnation, how have you been able to keep your Pastor straight without sin?
Look inside Bible, do weytin Bible talk, no be weytin you think.

WORDWORLD:
Allah warns in the Quran:

"O ye who BELIEVE! If a WICKED person comes to you with any NEWS, ascertain the TRUTH, least ye HARM people UNWITTINGLY, and afterwards become FULL OF REPENTANCE for what ye have DONE" Q 49:6

Muslims are adviced by the BOOK OF WISDOM, THE GLORIOUS QURAN that we should always ascertain the TRUTH.

The Quran also says "PRODUCE YOUR EVIDENCE, IF YE BUT SPEAK THE TRUTH" Q2:111

So ANAS09 Produce your Evidence of

1. WORDWORLD EVER having a discussion with you ANAS09. Where you asked me if I were no longer a Muslim? And I denied EVER being a Muslim.

And

2. Where I was BASHING Islam in that same discusion or thread.

ELSE REMAIN A CHRISTAIN,........" A FOOL FOR THE SAKE OF CHRIST........" 1corinthian4:10

Well, let me define CHRISTIANITY by using a FORMER PASTOR'S own PERSONAL WORDS which he used to describing and defining Christians and Christianity from his "TRUE LIFE STORY", the "ABSOLUTE TRUTH" MASTER PIECE THREAD:

From Pastor to Atheist. Why I will 'NEVER' be a Christian again! 

He wrote:

"There are many reasons why CHRISTIANITY has survived the test of time even though it is built on LIES and DEEP HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY"

Reference: www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/3

(Page 3, 5th post counting from top)

"Am I implying that INSINCERITY, SELFISHNESS and IGNORANCE is what is keeping CHRISTIANS as CHRISTIANS? The answer is a BIG YES! The moment I began to asking 'god' the questions .......... the very moment I began to discover the FALSEHOOD OF CHRISTIANITY. If you are SINCERE and TRUELY concern about your fellow man, you realize 'god' is MORE WICKED, S-TUPID and INCAPABLE than the presumed DEVIL"

Reference: www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5

(Page 5, post number 2 counting from bottom)

Hence,

Christians and Christianity = "LIES", "DEEP HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY", "INSINCERITY", "SELFISHNESS", "IGNORANCE" and  "god" is "MORE WICKED", "S-TUPID" and "INCAPABLE than the presumed DEVIL".

PROOF TO THE WORLD THAT CHRISTIANITY AND CHRISTIANS IS NOT ALL OF THE ABOVE BY FUNCTIONALITY AS A FORMER PASTOR HAS TOLD US. HARDMIRROR.

Those are is words not mine, but a former pastor's account of his ordeals in Christianity.

It also severs as an opportunity to proof him too WRONG.


Produce your Evidence 1. And 2. ........

Nairaland is on Black and White and it is open to the WHOLE WIDE WORLD.

I bet you TILL the world comes to an END, you Anas09 have NOTHING to produce.

YOU ARE AS EMPTY AS THE MAN WHO WROTE THAT "Excellent" "Baised" "Speculative" book Muhammad Vs The People.

The words in quote are parisbookaddict in describing the book. What an OPEN MINDEDNESS.


Tick-tack........Tick - Tack............... 

Otherwise remain the FOOL that you have choosen to be for the sake of Christ.

"I rather be FOOLISH for the sake of Christ" The Bible already has already told us that you are FOOLS .

"HOW EASY IT IS FOR A FAILURE TO SEEM FOOLISH!" Eric Hoffer

Oh dear. Na wa oooo. The mind of a Muslim. Don't worry I will post it here it's in my mentions.

WORDWORLD:
Allah warns in the Quran:

"O ye who BELIEVE! If a WICKED person comes to you with any NEWS, ascertain the TRUTH, least ye HARM people UNWITTINGLY, and afterwards become FULL OF REPENTANCE for what ye have DONE" Q 49:6

Muslims are adviced by the BOOK OF WISDOM, THE GLORIOUS QURAN that we should always ascertain the TRUTH.

The Quran also says "PRODUCE YOUR EVIDENCE, IF YE BUT SPEAK THE TRUTH" Q2:111

So ANAS09 Produce your Evidence of

1. WORDWORLD EVER having a discussion with you ANAS09. Where you asked me if I were no longer a Muslim? And I denied EVER being a Muslim.

And

2. Where I was BASHING Islam in that same discusion or thread.

ELSE REMAIN A CHRISTAIN,........" A FOOL FOR THE SAKE OF CHRIST........" 1corinthian4:10

Well, let me define CHRISTIANITY by using a FORMER PASTOR'S own PERSONAL WORDS which he used to describing and defining Christians and Christianity from his "TRUE LIFE STORY", the "ABSOLUTE TRUTH" MASTER PIECE THREAD:

From Pastor to Atheist. Why I will 'NEVER' be a Christian again! 

He wrote:

"There are many reasons why CHRISTIANITY has survived the test of time even though it is built on LIES and DEEP HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY"

Reference: www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/3

(Page 3, 5th post counting from top)

"Am I implying that INSINCERITY, SELFISHNESS and IGNORANCE is what is keeping CHRISTIANS as CHRISTIANS? The answer is a BIG YES! The moment I began to asking 'god' the questions .......... the very moment I began to discover the FALSEHOOD OF CHRISTIANITY. If you are SINCERE and TRUELY concern about your fellow man, you realize 'god' is MORE WICKED, S-TUPID and INCAPABLE than the presumed DEVIL"

Reference: www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5

(Page 5, post number 2 counting from bottom)

Hence,

Christians and Christianity = "LIES", "DEEP HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY", "INSINCERITY", "SELFISHNESS", "IGNORANCE" and  "god" is "MORE WICKED", "S-TUPID" and "INCAPABLE than the presumed DEVIL".

PROOF TO THE WORLD THAT CHRISTIANITY AND CHRISTIANS IS NOT ALL OF THE ABOVE BY FUNCTIONALITY AS A FORMER PASTOR HAS TOLD US. HARDMIRROR.

Those are is words not mine, but a former pastor's account of his ordeals in Christianity.

It also severs as an opportunity to proof him too WRONG.


Produce your Evidence 1. And 2. ........

Nairaland is on Black and White and it is open to the WHOLE WIDE WORLD.

I bet you TILL the world comes to an END, you Anas09 have NOTHING to produce.

YOU ARE AS EMPTY AS THE MAN WHO WROTE THAT "Excellent" "Baised" "Speculative" book Muhammad Vs The People.

The words in quote are parisbookaddict in describing the book. What an OPEN MINDEDNESS.


Tick-tack........Tick - Tack............... 

Otherwise remain the FOOL that you have choosen to be for the sake of Christ.

"I rather be FOOLISH for the sake of Christ" The Bible already has already told us that you are FOOLS .

"HOW EASY IT IS FOR A FAILURE TO SEEM FOOLISH!" Eric Hoffer

Oh dear. Na wa oooo. The mind of a Muslim. Don't worry I will post it here it's in my mention.

Demmzy15:
The religion would keep succeeding to the extent it's projected that Muslim population would be more than that of Christians before this century ends.

Yes, It will. We are not interested in number. Our Lord and Saviour said, Many are called but few are chosen.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Matthew:7:13
Have you seen that? Many shall flock into the destructive way. Count your number and dance. Fire is waiting for you.

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matthew:7:14
Most of the people you call Christians are not Christians. Christians are very few. You stupidly call every one in the West Christian. Poor you.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Matthew:7:15

If you look into this scripture well, you can insert the name of Muhammed into it.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Matthew:7:16
By your fruits we know who your master is. Allah forgot himself and declared that he is the greatest of liars.

Why hasn't Islam abrogated that verse?


A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Matthew:7:18
A satanic Muhammed can't produce anything other than, bloodshed. Sorrow, pain, and war.

Rest and wait for fire. Allah already told you to expect hellfire. Wonderful...

Rilwon:
There is no iota of truth in what you guys are saying, only that i don't have the time to be typing long epistles when no money is involved. Then you can continue deluding yourself it non of my business.

I thought Jesus used to be the one that appears to Christians, when did Yahweh starts appearing to people?

And Jesus is differnt from Yahweh right?
He has appeared to Somany Muslims recently. Right inside your Saudi Arabia while the Hajj is going on. Jesus entered there and pulled people out. I have met an Hausa man who hardly spoke clear English, from Kano state. He actually by himself walked into my Church, I and a brother attended to him before handing him over to the Pastor. Jesus met him in Saudi Arabia when u people went to worship in the moon god's temple.

Right there, according to him, while prayer was going on, (this was remarkable, because he wasn't sleeping) he heard a voice telling him to get out of there. He heard it clearly, looked around, no one was paying any attention. He went back to prayer, a little while later, he heard it again. Without ever having anything to do with Christians all his life, because his father was a "Muller" or whatever you call it. He knew that the voice was Jesus.
How did he know it was Jesus? (Remember Apostle Paul, your Arch enemy? He didn't know Jesus, but when Jesus met him, immediately Jesus spoke, he knew it was the Lord) that's how your brother knew. No one gets to tell u, you'll just know.
For no reason at all, Islamic prayer started irritating him, right there in Saudi Arabia. He came back to Nigeria, He is in charge of his father's Cows business in Port Harcourt, so he came back. He struggled to return to his normal Islamic life, he couldn't.
His wife, (he said he had three wives, but only one was here with him) noticed that he wasn't praying. Wasn't going to the Mosque. He was scared the wife will tell his parents, he sent her back to Kano. One day, at home alone, the voice came again, he spoke in hausa, exasperated, telling the voice that he didn't know what to do, the voice told him to go to winners.
He said, he never knew what winners was. He only walk pass churches, he couldn't read, even if he could, he wouldn't. He hated Christians with murderous hatred. He was raised from childhood to hate the Christias. He always felt bitter because he couldn't walk I to any church to kill them.
But that day, the Word winners won't leave him, so he came out, met an elder lady, he asked her, and she told him that Winners is a church. And directed him to our branch church.

It took awhile for him to take that decision, he said he was ready to face whatever his people will do to him. He knew the consequences of his actions well, he had been part of those carrying out sentences against Apostates. He said he was ready. Afterwards, he will send his other wives away, and stay with his first wife, if she will stay. He said his father was a strong Rich Islamic leader in Kano, but he won't go back.
I didn't believe he was genuine. His eyes were darting here and there as if afraid. I suspected a boko haram ploy to bomb the church, and sent him to pretend conversion. That period was when a bomb was discovered in Owerri head quarters branch. The brother put my mind at rest.
We ushered him to see the assistant pastor, because the resident pastor wasn't there.
This was a personal experience. No soul talked to that man. Jesus by himself SPOKE, WITH AN AUDIBLE Voice to a Muslim.
When he meets you, you can't help but come.
Don't worry, when he meets you, you'll share here.
Ask yourself this. If Jesus was a Muslim, how come anytime he reveals himself to a Muslim, the Muslim abandons Islam and becomes a christian? Again, why hasn't allah/muhammes revealed himself to anyone before conversion to Islam?

WORDWORLD:
RETURNED?

Which of the two FOOLS were you thinking i belonged to.

Those who are FOOLISH for the sake of CHRIST...1corinthians4:10

Or

The FOOLS who say in their heart that there is no GOD. Psalm 14:1

?

What sense you have you now made? A while ago you were in an atheists thread bashing Islam. I asked you if you were no longer a Muslim, you denied ever being a Muslim.
I'd rather be foolish for the sake of Christ, than be foolish for a foolish demented man like Muhammed.

SUPERPACK:
Who cares.

You don't care, but you say am lying? No wahala, but I have shown you.

[quote author=SUPERPACK post=47834877]

if u die today are u certain u will end up in heaven, because even the greatest prophets moses, elisha, david, etc were nt sure of where they are going, there is no criteria to make heaven[quote]You said you are not a Muslim? But your speech betray you. The only acclaimed prophet who died and didn't know where he was going, was False Prophet Muhammed. Pls pick the Bible and read about these names you just mentioned for clarification, they knew exactly where they were going. And we are told, when Jesus resurrected, their Graves were bust opened, they came up walking physically on the streets of Jerusalem, but later went back to this resting place waiting for general resurrection.
[quote]even the greatest prophets of our time e.g Tb joshua, Oyedepo and adeboye all go abroad when they are sick and do everything in their power to survive.[quote]These men of God go overseas for treatment doesn't make them above death, when it's their time, they will go. If you sit down and tell yourself Bishop Oyedepo doesn't know where he is going when he dies, then you are a Muslim indeed.
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[quote]Because we are judged by the things we do and also the things we should have done, so our final destination always seems uncertain.[quote]Only in Islam are you judged by what you do, not in Christianity. In Christianity we are justified by the faith we have in the finished work of Jesus Christ our Saviour on the cross.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John:3:16,18


Romans
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

LOlzzz this guy quotes scriptures without knowing what they mean.
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Romans:3: 23-26

Mark out these words
1. Redenption
2.Justification.
3. Propitiatiin.
4. Remission of sins.
Faith in the blood of Jesus.

Through the aforementioned, Christ replaced His Righteousness for my unrighteousness.
Everyone, no exception had sinned, but today a way has been provided through the blood of Jesus which offers us, redemption, Remission of our sins, Propitiatiin for our sins, and justification for our sins. My sins have paid for. The guilt is done away with.
Pls go and study whatever you believe, dont come and tell me about what I believe.

SUPERPACK:
when did fulfilling the law turn to mean abolishing the law. and pls am nt a muslem, you can go through my post history on nairaland.

Am not sure you follow the OP. Pls go back and read all the scriptures the OP posted here. If you are too lazy to do so, I will help you. Or, maybe you have comprehension issues. What do u do with what is old?
Now add the scriptures below to what the Op posted, pls read all.

Hebrews 8:6-11 But as it now is, He [Christ] has acquired a [priestly] ministry which is as much superior and more excellent [than the old] as the covenant (the agreement) of which He is the Mediator (the Arbiter, Agent) is superior and more excellent, [because] it is enacted and rests upon more important (sublimer, higher, and nobler) promises.

For if that first covenant had been without defect, there would have been no room for another one or an attempt to institute another one.
However, He finds fault with them [showing its inadequacy] when He says, Behold, the days will come, says the Lord, when I will make and ratify a new covenant or agreement with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.
It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day when I grasped them by the hand to help and relieve them and to lead them out from the land of Egypt, for they did not abide in My agreement with them, and so I withdrew My favor and disregarded them, says the Lord.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord:

I will imprint My laws upon their minds, even upon their innermost thoughts and understanding, and engrave them upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

And it will nevermore be necessary for each one to teach his neighbor and his fellow citizen or each one his brother, saying, Know (perceive, have knowledge of, and get acquainted by experience with) the Lord, for all will know Me, from the smallest to the greatest of them.

This is your answer Mr man. I hope you read it though.

Blackfire:
the effect of hitting his delicate head on the innocent ground while facing a black stone.

Exactly. Only days ago he was bashing Islam.

Blackfire:
@winner1 u no mention me blackfire? *brings out Cane, na joke o*.

There is a new trend now, u see someone claiming atheist , but at the end he/ she is a Muslim.

There was a whole lot of things i was angry at God for when i left.. But now i see how foolish i was..

So i learnt 3 things about asking from God.. YES i will do this instantly, WAIT that is the place where generals are mould or atheist are made. NO: is like asking God to give a u a married man to marry.

*am hungry, who cook rice*

My dear. So we'll captured. "Ask God for a married man for life partner. Asking God to go agaisnt His Will to answer you, when you don't get, He doesn't exist. What stupidity.
Anyone who claims he was once a christian never had even day's relationship with God. Know God personally, know his will concerning all his peomises. Yes, He has promised, but the promises are not for Vagabons and rebellous. His promises are for the obidient and willing servants.
And ye shall serve the LORD your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee.
There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: the number of thy days I will fulfil.
Exodus:23: 25-26.

Service comes first, before rewards. But how many of them actually serve first? I mean really obidiently serve acceptably?

Even as a servant, you have done your part, you dont make rude demands from Him. You are a servant and he is the master, He knows you need your wages, so you WAIT. It will come in His time,not yours.
I actually don't see them as anything other than Tares amidst the wheat. It's a matter of time before they started manifesting.

annunaki2:
Very good observation, it should so obvious to any sane person that islam is full of lies, contradictions and inconsistencies but alas the average islamic brain is fried and not capable of reasoning were islam is concerned.

These people are so deceived. They actually believed that Jesus Christ, No wait..., not Jesus Christ, but Isa will come and help them kill all the Jews and Christians (the other non Muslums are not a thread to them), only Christians and Jews will be killed by Jesus and hand over the earth to Islam. This is the height of the Islamic stupidity. Guess what? The Muslims don't ask themselves why Islamic teachings are so opposed to Christ'. Submission and subjection of Islamic brains under Satan.

Blackfire:
immediately mohamed died alot of those who ve been living in fear of his terror ... Left Islam and denounced it openly.

Guess what abubakr the new caliph did?

He rounded them up and butchered them ... Is all there in the hadiths.

The worst a Christian can do for u is pray for u knowing the damnation waiting for u... But to kill ..... Nah.

But in Islam tears sorrows and blood.

Islam is the religion of Satan and the Muslims know it. How is it possible for one to walk into damnation cinciously? This really bits me.

WORDWORLD:


I couldn't stop LAUGHING after reading 'parisbookaddict' review of the book MUHAMMED Vs THE PEOPLE..............even while tapping the key pads of my phone writing all these, I JUST CAN'T STOP FLASHING MY WHITE TEETH.

Muhammad had STD!!!?

Wao!!!...........Mwuahahahahaha!

This particular allegation is so NEW to me, HONESTLY..........its very, very NEW and very FUNNY. I have never heard this one before. ITS NEW TO ME HONESTLY.

parisbookaddict you really must have very, very TICKLISH fingers. Your writing produced, via fingering your key pad of your phone or laptop had such a TICKLISH effect on me.

Mwuahahahaha! So TICKLISH. I can't. Stop laughing.

"Muhammad STD".............AND WHAT DOES IT ADD UP TO IF AT ALL HE EVER HAD STD?

I keep repeating it and won't stop REPEATING this statement:

THAT THE ONLY THING MORE AMUSING TO WE MUSLIMS MORE THAN SLANDERERS LIKE THE WRITER OF THAT BOOK MUHAMMAD vs THE PEOPLE, ARE THEY FOOLS (In capital letters) WHO ARE CARRIED AWAY BY THE LIES THEY TELL THEM WHILE THEY SO MUCH BELIEVE IN THEM. AND FOR THE SAKE OF WHO?

Did I hear you say"....... we are FOOLS for the sake of Christ......." 1Corinthians 4:10.

WELL, THE BIBLE SAID SO NOT ME. SO DON'T HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR CHOICE OF FOOLISHNESS.

And why then do you ascribe FOOLISHNESS to the those who say in their heart that there is no GOD when you YOURSELVES are FOOLS for the sake of Christ?

"The FOOLS say in his heart.'There is no GOD'" Psalm. 14: 1

WHO IS THE BIGGER FOOL AMONGS YOU BOTH.

Those who say there is no GOD Or those who are FOOLS for the sake of 'GOD' 'SON OF GOD' 'SON OF MAN' (which one? Definately can't be all of the above. Except you are not only FOOLISH but MENTALLY ILL).

What a contradictory system.  

To say Muhammed suffered from STD because "he had vast number of sexual partners."(WIVES)

Is to assume that Jesus Christ is GAY, A HOMOSEXUAL only because he did not marry and was flocking with 12 MEN who are called his Disciples. Who betrayed him, who denied him, who doubted him.

These other FOOLS who say in their heart that there is no GOD according psalm 14: 1 are mostly the OUT-CROP of the FOOLS who are FOOLISH for the sake of Christ, 1Corinthians 4:10. Among these later FOOLS, there are those who have accussed 'GOD', 'SON OF GOD' 'SON OF MAN' Jesus Christ of being a HOMOSEXUAL, a GAY.

Did they say this out of SPITE, SENTIMENT, EVIDENCE.....................or out of the heart with which the bIble already calls them FOOOOOOOOOOLISH HEARTS!!!

Parisbookaddict, analice107, annuniki2, blackfire.................... is Jesus a HOMOSEXUAL, a GAY-MAN?

A MUSLIM will never assume that Jesus Christ is HOMOSEXUAL, GAY. NEVER!!!

Pershaps since you find SO MUCH SENSE in what the writer has written about Muhammed which made YOUR BRAIN to remark such a SPECULATIVE BOOK is "EXCELLENT" you should also find it appealing when your twin FOOLS, Atheist say that JESUS Christ is a Homosexual. Pokes Peter(THE ROCK), (THE DOUBTING) Thomas, (THE SONS OF THUNDER) James and John, (THE BETRAYAL) Judas Iscariot...............and the remainning twelve men DEEP inside their A-SS HOLE with his MIRACULOUS D!CK. If Such a SPECULATIVE BOOK which by your own remarks "..the author SPECULATES A LOT WHICH IS THE NATURE OF THE BOOK, how ever it's such an EXCELLENT book" is any thing to go by then you need to APPLAUD your twin, the other FOOLS who say in their heart that there is no GOD" for having ascribed Jesus Christ to being a HOMOSEXUAL judging by speculation.

Despite all the RIDICULOUS writings about JESUS and the SLANDERS we read via those who wrote their various LIES about such an UPRIGHT MAN, JESUS THE SON OF MARY in the worst of ways in the Bible.

For example,

Just IMAGINE. The very first Miracle to show GOD'S OMNIPOTENCE, JESUS CHRIST THE INCARNATE OF GOD, who has so much PITY for HUMANITY such that He became one like us, MAN who he by Himself created.

His first Miracle was changing of water to wine for those who are already DRUNK in the wedding feast to get MORE DRUNK. God's Ministry of SALVATION KICKED OFF with 6 pots full to the brim of INTOXICANT.

The WINE from the BREWERIES in heaven from where it came from was so remarked as thus by the master of the feast, the oga at the top as thus.

"And when the master of the feast had tasted the water that was made WINE, and did not know where it came from (but the servants who had drawn the water knew), the master of the feast called the bride groom. ~'BLACKFIRE'~ and he said to him, BEH BEH BOH BEH BEH (the dumb groom said) "everyman at the beginning sets out THE GOOD WINE, and when the guest HAVE WELL DRUNK, the INFERIOR (Burukutu, èmmu, Ogogoro, Guilder, Star........you know them) You have kept the good wine until now". John 2 : 9-10.

Not did 'GOD' 'SON OF GOD' 'SON OF MAN' Jesus Christ according to the Bible only SUPPLIED the wine, he also acted as a BAR ATTENDANT and OVERS SEER of how the Miraculous wine should be severed at the feast. Can you imagine SonOfLucifer?

"And he 'Jesus' said to them, (to the waiters off course) DRAW SOME OUT NOW, AND TAKE IT TO THE MASTER OF THE FEAST (Oga at the top). And they took it" John2:8

SUPPLIER AND DISTRIBUTOR OF INTOXICANT. WHAT A SHOW OF OMINIPOTENCE FOR HUMANITY TO BECOME DAZZELED AND DAZED AND DRUNK.

What really is the MORAL OF CHANGING water to wine? If I hear you say wine is not GOOD, there are verses that forbids wine in the bible. Chai I go tell LUCIFER and SonOfLucifer to squeeze una BLOCUSS.

While the Quran acknowledges that Jesus the son of Mary raised the Dead, healed the blind...............e.t.c (Quran 5:113, you can read the list of Jesus Christ miracles by GOD'S leave) . IT NEVER MENTIONED THE EFFORT OF SUCH AN UPRIGHT MAN JESUS THE SON OF MARRY TO MAKING DRUNKARDS OF MEN IN THE NAME OF GOD BY CHANGING WATER TO WINE.

Why?

Was Muhammad too 'MENTALLY ILL' to have copied that too from the Bible? Since you alway SPECULATE that he copied from the Bible.

And why are CHRISTIANS not changing water to wine and saving themselves of their hard earned money in buying beer and becoming  DRUNK AS SKUNK vomiting and pissing all over the place.

The day anyone of you change RIVER NIGER to wine. THAT DAY ALL MUSLIMS WILL BECOME CHRISTIANS I CAN ASSURE.

We will all leave Islam that forbids us INTOXICANT for Christianity which Ministry KICKED OFF with INTOXICANT.

The Bible acknowledges it as thus:

"This is the BEGINNING of signs (changing water to wine) Jesus 'GOD' did in Cana of Galilee and MANIFESTED HIS GLORY and his disciples believed in Him". John 2 : 11 ( THE DISCIPLES BELIEVED IN HIM FOR SUPPLYING INTOXICANT. They must have been so over JOYED seeing the manifestation of GOD'S GLORY in wine and may have been shouting out of EXCITMENT.

"JESUS we are GAY!, we are so so GAY!..........which also meanins: We are HAPPY! We are so so HAPPY!....(Gay also means Happy. Check it out in the ENGLISH dictionary)

INTOXICANT is forbiden in ISLAM even a drop is not allowed let alone a shot so as not to permit SELF DECEPTION....I won't get drunk WINE, BEER etc has ruined lives more than you can ever imagine. One of the reasons why its not permitted there are so many reason's too .................e.t.c

BUT THIS VERY INTOXICANT is the very FOUNDATION of Jesus Christ's, GOD or SON of GOD or SON of MAN'S ministry for salvation plc.

When you read all that is said about Jesus the son of Mary in the Quran there is no where that you can point to him being RIDICULED. NOT even one.

You are all nurtured by SLANDER and MOCKERY, RIDICLE, ABUSE and SLAYING of prophets of GOD. NO WONDER YOU SAY ITS SUCH AN EXCELLENT BOOK.

Well that is not the subject matter. My POINT really is to show that A FOOL IS A FOOL whether he or she is being FOOLISH for the sake of Christ Or for saying in his or her heart that their is NO GOD.

A FOOL IS A FOOL................the only DISTINCTION is by asking in a low tone WHO IS THE GREATER FOOL amongs you both?

"People who CAN'T GROW want to leap: they want short cut to fame fortune, and happiness" Eric Hoffer.

To be continued.

You returned to Islam? Confused soul.

winner01:
In response to your thread.


I'm happy for you and other christian's silently observing this section. My candid advise to you and others is to engage in more research about christianity as a worldview, and also the infallibility of the Word of God (the Bible). You have several resources, e-books on the internet and most importantly, you have the Bible. Believe me, you WILL NOT find the answers you seek in this section.

What goes on in this section most times is a good example of when well studied atheism meets baby christianity, or more recently, when desperately empty atheism meets weak christianity.
I understand that most christians have not widely read their Bibles and do not know deeply the power of christianity and may feel frustrated about their unanswered questions. You do not need to feel bad, you can do your little research about the God you serve. You will find out why he fills the hearts of atheists so much that they can't stop talking about Him.

Most christians on this section spend far too much time defending the gospel rather than poking the obvious holes in atheism. I started off that way too and its not bad. But I noticed how much of a waste of time it is, especially on a section such as this.
Most's atheists here are not honest and open minded, their atheism stems from a deep-seated hatred towards God - triggered by negative emotional and psychological occurrences in their lives. For this reason, they will not entertain your opinion or explanations, and they will stop at nothing to make sure they can get as many people to hate God with them.

That is why myself, as well as KingEbukaNaija and other brave christians here, have made efforts in our spare time to expose atheism for the hopeless, bleak and worthless ideology which it really is.

I salute the efforts of Richirich713, scholar8200 , malvisguy212 , Muafrika2, Dejideji1 , truthman2012, Image123 , InesQor, Joshthefirst MrPresident1, gatiano sukkot, OLAADEGBU , vooks, UyiIredia , Jeromejnr, thoniameek, anas09, Tufanja, elantraceey, ceeted, Chidexter, lezz, analice107, bxcode, Topeakintola, Tellemall, Ishilove, Drefan2, Strawman, dazzle101, Dejideji1, Farmerforlife, 4evergod2, udysweet, Edelweiss44, naijadeyhia and others.
Your efforts may be of help to some persons out there silently observing what goes on in this section, keep up the good work.

May God continually bless you all.

God bless you sir. You make me strong.

BetaThings:
I know that as a Christian, you can say ANYTHING
Because they don't teach manners and respect in the church
Yet for insulting Jesus, Bishop Oyedepo slapped a girl

Nothing to say beyond that

I know that as a Muslim you are permitted to lie, but must you lie about us to us? At least lie about Islam to us.
Bishop Oyedepo slapped the girl becos the confessed being a Witch, but she insisted she was a Witch for Christ. You can say and accept that in Islam, but u cant be Jesus' Witch. It wasn't actually her who said that, it was the demon inhabiting her. So she got what she got.

SUPERPACK:
i will die one day, just like every other person, you will u live forever.

No, I wont live forever. Thats not what I meant. For calling Islam fraud and saying the Koran is outdated, so shd be completely abrogated, your brothers will have your head. Evil is sweet when you believe no one will judge you. Muhammed did all he could, when he was dying he was gripped with fear because he didn't know where he was going. Be wise.

SUPERPACK:
Matthew 5:17-19 King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
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18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
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19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

As a Muslim quoting these scriptures, you just indicted and condemned yourself. Jesus fulfilled the law, but islam insist on keeping them. And Stupidly so, Islam chose to only keep the Apostasy part. Sorry dear.

annunaki2:
That islam has been able to sustain itself(albeit mostly through violence) is a testament to how powerful satan is. Only satan could have established and sustained islam for this long.

He challenged God he will form his own religion and have men worship him as God. Yahweh just allowed him to do that by using Islam. You know Satan nah, he will succeed for a time. It's not how far, it's how well.

BetaThings:
I know that as a Christian, you can say ANYTHING
Because they don't teach manners and respect in the church
Yet for insulting Jesus, Bishop Oyedepo slapped a girl

Nothing to say beyond that

Have you seen that people left Christ but he didn't kill them like Muhammed did? Grow a brain.

SUPERPACK:
It pays To read between the lines, but since you cant lets agree to disagree.

Guy, you'd better not say this thing u just said here outside. They will kill u like a dog. Ur Brethren are murderers.

ifenes:
Superpack is right,if you don't practise the laws of the bible you are a fake Christian.

Are you sure you have been following this thread? Jesus is the New Covenant which fulfils the law. The Law was like a school teacher preparing the students for an exam. Jesus Christ came and a New Covenant was enacted, and the old was done away with. My ba3 is down to type the verses to this regard.
Ifeness is now a Muslim. Wonders.

Rilwon:
O'l boy, i don't have the zeal to type much today enh... Another day.

Dont worry, we understand. The truth is clear, you know it already. Just sleep over it. May Yahweh visit you in your dream this night. because Allah can't perform that feat of visiting those who believe in him. Epele

plappville:
John 4:22 ►
You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we (Jesus and my Apostles) worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Not ARABS ...

You are confused aren't you? What a pity!!

You have to believed a lie told by your false prophet that the apostles were arabs abi? What a stupid question you asked previously.



To you Muslims, Peter and other apostles are not Jews abi? Accept to learn what you do not know. Clown..

No dear, they don't claim all other Jews to be Arabs and Muslims, only the Principal ones. Abraham was an Arab Muslim, but Sarah, Isaac, Jacob and the rest weren't. Daniel, David, all other prophets, but the Kings weren't. Then in the New Testament, only Jesus was a Muslim, his Apostles weren't.
Can one imagine the level to which these people will allow themselves to be deceived?

loveroftruth:
Actually, am yet to understand what you are driving at.

Are you agreeing that the ISIS are the true followers of Islam? Be apt so we can understand you clearly.

Meanwhile, The Prophecies in the OT by Yahweh had already foretold that his followers will follow him in a new way.

Here we go read this up:

JEREMIAH31:31-33

31 “Look! The days are coming,” declares Jehovah, “when I will make with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant. 32 It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, ‘my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,’ declares Jehovah.”
33 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares Jehovah. “I will put my law within them, and in their heart I will write it. And I will become their God, and they will become my people.”
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From the above, Yahweh had already made plans for a change of direction as contained in that Bible portion, this direction the Koran missed completely.

That new direction is the new covenant that was initiated by Yahweh as seen in that Prophecy above.
Jesus Christ Kick-started it while he was on earth:

Luke22:20
20 Also, he did the same with the cup after they had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in your behalf.
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So, from the above, Jesus Christ fulfilled the Prophecy of Yahweh recorded at Jeremiah 31:31 above, concerning making a new covenant and laws.

There, Jesus said the new covenant is by virtue of his Blood that is to be given on our behave, so, the new covenant is by means of Jesus blood.

Hence, the new covenant came into effect when "his Blood" was poured on our behave = when he died.

Since the new covenant hanged on the Messiah Jesus, that was why Jesus could talk of giving a new commandment:

John13:34,35
34 I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another".

Another scripture:

Matthew22:37-40

He said to him: “‘You must [color-red]love[/color] Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love[/red] your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 [color=red]On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.”
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From the above, Followers of Christ operate on the law of LOVE and not on the over 600 laws of Moses that was given on Mount Sinai when the sons of Israel were coming out of Egypt.

So, that Koran did not take note of what the Son of God Jesus did while on earth in the Bible and followed a completely different direction and kept carrying the laws given on mount Sinai in Koran even added their own, it is not Christians fault nor Jesus Fault, Not Yahweh's fault.

Koran did not take note of the directions of Jesus on LOVE.

Jesus says that the law to Love Yahweh and Love ones neighbor covers all the other 600 laws. If i love Yahweh, love my neighbor, i will not steal his property, nor go after his wife. Etc, Etc. and all else. Thereby keeping all other on Yahweh's laws.

Christians operate on a different Law from Judaism.

Dem go gree? They are totally blind towards this. Thank you very much.

Rilwon:
Can one be a jew and a Christian at the same time? Fool.

Cc: All the MODs. Ban this person.

loveroftruth:
Care to give evidence of such today?

Do you mean to say: A true Christian follower of Yahweh "will stone wayward kids"?

If the Above is what you meant to say, can you give evident of such a command in the Christian manual? (That will be in the New Testament, Since Christianity means follower of Christ, and followers of Christ started in the New testament of the Bible).

Even if he quotes from the old Testament, it'll mean him citing instances where the worshippers of Yahweh who are still alive today practising Judaism, does what he just said.
Don't take that person serious.

BetaThings:
What does the Bible say about whoever abandons Christianity?
What does the Bible say about whoever insults his/her parents

Tell us what your timeless Bible say about those ?

Are you for real? You seem to think everyone is as insecure as your Muhammed? Low Self esteem was Muhammed's greatest problem, he couldn't stand rejection. Christ says, "Come on to me" a decision you must take. A choice you must make. In Christianity there's what we can FREE WILL.
Here is what happened to Jesus after he preached a message, people left him, he even asked his Apostles why they won't leave also. Could Muhammed do that? No, he waged war agaisnt them. Cowardly Arab with inferiority complex which is still seen in his followers today.
John 6:66-68
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

Thats a man who trusted in himself.
In Christianity, you came on your own, if you want to leave, you leave on your own.