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OkCornel:
Anas09 and Bonnylight003, you both should save your advice for Kenneth Hagin, Morris Cerrulo and other MOGs/Believers exposing the works of darkness as well. Come out clearly and tell us the Holy Spirit didn't reveal these to them.

It seems you all don't understand the operations of the evil one is shrouded in secrecy coupled with your ignorance and fear to make it powerful. Now that he is exposed, I am surprised even acclaimed believers are much more upset than the evil one that is exposed.

Anyways also bear in mind that this is not the only subject the OP has spoken of. There's another thread of his on heaven. You can also go there to insult and criticize him for focusing on God and the glory of heaven there too. Feel free to dismiss it as an Alice in wonderland fairytale.

If you both want to be ignorant of the wiles of the Devil, best of luck to you both.

Pls stop mentioning me, I'm done you with.

You have an agenda to propagate the gospel of satan by presenting his ways to the people with the motive of inflicting fear. You already said those who wld fear after reading what you guys arw doing here are cowards.

Believe me, you wld defend that before Jesus.

bonnylight003:
Who is the devil...

On the cross of Calvary he was defeated and shamed.... He's roaring like a wounded lion looking for decieve ..destroy ..not me.

All those authors you call are not basic of Christianity ..everyone of us has an encounter with Christ..

Does it mean ..we should all write note on our encounter with Christ and tell Christian's to forget the Bible and start reading our encounter..

Those humans are not the only humans the spirit of God has revealed those things to..
Or should I now worship them..

Bro forget all this your gra gra... This is my last reply to you....you can worship them..even. Bow to them..spread their gospel and share dia books ..free...is you and who you are...
But that not my Lord Jesus Christ..

The Bible is most sufficient word of God ..is all I need as a Christian.. .in my world ..devil and his demons are the list in my life..they don't exist and never exist..
If they try..theyre burnt instantly..so I don't give life to him...I spend myself time praising God ..worshipping my creator..prYying ..listing to his voice and doing his will...
Demons are the last of myself thought and worries.... There alots of soul to win..
Depopulating the kingdom of hell and populating God kingdom is a task for every believer ..
Christian's are not meant to concern themselves with the kingdom of darkness..we are children of light..

God has given us victory on the cross...and that's it..


I'm not interested with what your authors think and believe......is their opinion and it matters less to me.

Thank yyou

Abeg tell him.
See how Christian cult is ravishing the Church. Why won't they talk about that and save the innocent and gullible Christians?

AufmevicNigLtd:
ours come in white color!

Okay then.

chubbyswit:
Hello sis, I have known you here for sometime and also like how you uplift this section but please I beg you to stop this argument you are doing right now because you are totally wrong on this issue. Don't bother to respond or quote this post. Just ask God to reveal to you the truth on what you are arguing about and stop this ignorance!

I need only one scripture that encourages believers to go into the satanism. Only that shows I"m wrong. Show me one. I am a scripture based Christian, so, pls don't just talk, use scriptures to tell me I'm wrong.

I won't continue it this because you guys have made up your minds to go your own ways. You people call yourselves Christians but don't take the Word of God seriously.
No worries we shall meet Jesus soon then we shall report all our actions here.

OkCornel:
Lol, I guess loving my neighbor includes turning a blind eye to his shortcomings.

Let us be sincere and blunt with one another. Call a spade a spade, not teaspoon.

I also hope the gossip you got on the OP in your inbox today as your padi promised was really worth it.

Cheers...

Lol. I have not received any gossip and I don't gossip. Gossip is of the devil. It's a weapon of satan and I don't use his weapons.

If he sends me what I don't agree with, I'd tell him so.

LordReed:
Thank you once again for admitting you are always bringing up Satan. Now you won't squirm when I point it out.

Just Negodu? I dey fear to admit am before?

So long as we are still alive and Jesus hasn't come, we shall continue to talk abt satan until he gets cast off into the Lake of fire.

LordReed:
I just asked you how it does.

How what does?

OkCornel:
Since when did Jesusjnr become my mentor? Oh well, I guess this isn't a jab from you

That I agree with him on a subject matter today means we are in the same league forever?

Sorry dear, don't be surprised we'll have our disputes on another subject matter like Paul and Barnabas once did. Yet Paul & Barnabas still went about doing the Lord's work without grudges for one another.

Likewise, if I'm in agreement with you on another subject matter ( unfortunately not this one), it doesn't mean we'll be on the same page forever.

Disputes are bound to occur. It's inevitable, especially when one takes offence easily.


Concerning Pa Hagin's matter, if you read his book rather than arguing here, you would have seen his revelations sufficiently backed up with the scriptures. Even the few screenshots I uploaded on this thread attests to that.

You and Pa Hagins. How many times shd i say I'm not against him?

OkCornel:
So what do you think I want to do to you? Provoke you? What value will that one add to me or the truth on this thread?

There is no point in being emotional over nothing. By the way, it is lovely how you can quickly see and interpret jabs in my comments, but turned a close eye to that of those in your camp.

Did you ever consider how those you and your camp directed your messages to on this thread also felt?

If I talk double standards now, you'll interpret it as an insult.

Which Camp are you talking abt?
Me and who are in this camp?

Double standard say I dey both camps?
Your camp and which Camp again?
You know weytin be double standardness sef?
If I dey double standard i for dey suport you and dey suport another person.
Who I dey even support here since?

Oh, because I tell you not to insult your elders mean say I take him side? Really?

I no get sides here. Di only side wey I dey na Jesus side. Bible side.

Check my discussions with him on Homosexuality and see how it went.
I no dey look person face, no body but Jesus die for me. E no concern me weytin you say abt me, dat na your bizness.

If I no see am for Bible, I no dey believe am. E no concern me weda you be Pope.

So. I no get camps.

On that note, I will drop you here. Na here be your last Bustoo. I have made my points.

CharlyG in his thread will reveal to people demonic activities especially in films/cartoons and tell us how they can penetrate into peoples consciousness and then tell us how to avoid them.

Once in a while I go in there silently read and leave.

I was very active in that thread, but when it became so much about dreams interpretation, I told him about it. I told him that many contributors may leave, he never threatened me.

But. Here is a different case.

OKcornel, I wish you good fortunes in your Christian walk. But if you walk without carrying the interest of others in your mind, then you don't know what Jesus means by 'Love your Neighbor as you love yourself'.
Goodbye. As far as this issue goes.

Ginalex:
From a follower of your old moniker (Analice. Even though I had an issue or two with how u went about certain things sha) Abeg free that guy... He won't stop... I know him to be a back and forth person (eg insisting that tithing be paid with grains, farm produce etc)... Op, I personally don't see the point talking about the different levels of demons and their numbers. But oh well... We all don't have to agree on everyhing... Initially, your talk on cultism and all were accompanied with how Jesus gave you victory and how u overcame... But now, it's all how one demon is more ruthless than the other and nothing more... I honestly don't see the point of all that if they'll not be followed by testimonies but I can only say you should do as the Spirit leads..

@Bolded. I saw him the original 'Say No to Cultism[/b] thread in Crime section. As a Christian when he said he wld take cultism from the spiritual abgle, I rushed him. I had never even seen his moniker until then. Only to get here looking to see how those trapped can come out through Jesus. because so many are trapped in fear of death if they come out.

How can they come out? If you were there and today you are free, pls help othets. How did you do it? Instead, Okcornel boasted and said they are Cowards to be fearful. That tin pain me reach bone.

No one who loves to see souls won wld ever say a thing like that.

Anyway, I'd leave him be.

Sorry for bashing you with Analice can Moniker. Analice was too stubborn she has been banned till 2028.

madprophet:
As I began to follow your discuss with the cornel, I was saying Ana's has changed oo,

She is having a discuss with someone in such a civil manner.. until I saw this...

Am sure you could have ignore the insult instead you gave him double barrel.

Not good madam.. Not good..

Take things easy...

The truth is every one walk with God is different. Let just accommodate one and another

Let strive and insult not be heard among us.

Please take things easy

Okay sir.

OkCornel:
Madam, abeg you no get point jare.

You asked for where Hagin spoke on the subject matter of demons. I showed you some screenshots from the Triumphant Church.

Now it is about how many books of his I read, and how many of them talks on Satan and Demons. I love this, keep shifting the goalpost.

Oga you get plenty points as you keep trying to veer the discussion off from the Bible to Personal encounters of people?

Open your ears and hear. I do not doubt that Hagin had an encounter with Jesus, but that is besides the point. I talked about the teachings of Jesus in the Bible but all you bring is Pa Hagin's encounter. What about those who don't believe in his ministry? How wld you convince them?

Your mentor Jesusjnr does not believe in the ministry of Apst Paul, so you quoting Paul (who is in the Bible o) doesn't make sense to him. How wld you using Pa Hagin's encounter make sense to others?

Jesus Teachings in the Bible is universally accepted, let's go with that.

LordReed:
Good, so stop bringing up Satan when a nasty trait of your god gets called out.

Oh. I will bring him in alright because he is like a roaring lion looking for whom to devour.
he has fallen so he wants everyone fallen like him.

LordReed:
How does this answer the question I asked you?

Lol. As if you'd ever admit to the answer I give as answering your question.

OkCornel:
Anas09, what is your definition of insult?

Please point out the insults I've heaped on you on this thread.

Better don't let your emotions get the better of you. If you can't sustain the discussion, it's advisable you either hit the un-follow button or don't bother mentioning me

Lol. You can't wait to see be gone ba? Well, like i said, you don't know me. And very few monikers here know who I was here. I am not a push about. You can never in your wildest dreams make me do anything I don't want to. Not even Seun.
I and S.eun clashed here with one of my handles he banned me till 2028 since 2015. I no dey fear satan, no be him agents I go fear.

If you can't see the jabs in your comments then continue.

LordReed:
Another attempt to change the subject. I didn't quote Exodus 12, I quoted Exodus 15 and it has nothing to do with idols, magicians, magic, other gods or Satan.

I stay on track while you always want to deflect to something else. Instead of treating Exodus 15 that I quoted you quote something else and you are calling me funny. LMFAO.

Exodus 15:26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, [and wilt do] that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, [and keep all his statutes], I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.

You dey see at all?

Look at the parentheses, "do" and "keep", they are talking abt obeying God's laws. I have always told you that the law of Cause and Effect is already embedded in the Algorithm of the Divine Design upon which the earth is founded on, hence it brings down the hand of the Lord to bear on who chooses what.

Before Adam was created this law was waiting for him. Choose freely. If you choose good, I will give you good. If you choose death I will give you death.

The Egyptians chose death, I gave it to.them, if you act like them the curses which brought abt their death I shall bring them to bear in your life too.
Ask and you shall receive works both ways.

How hard is this to grasp?

OkCornel:
Have you read The Triumphant Church?

Besides, Paul had a personal encounter with Jesus. He wrote about it in some of his letters. Those letters became part of the Bible. Paul's story is acceptable and universal simply because - it is in the Bible.


The same Jesus appeared to Kenneth Hagin, gave him a detailed expose on the operations of Demons. He wrote a book on it. Kenneth Hagin's story is not acceptable and universal simply because - it is not in the Bible.


Smh.

By all means you are trying to tell yourself that I don't believe in Pa Hagin's ministry. Hahahahahahaha. Sorry, hold something else.

How many of his books have you read? How many of them talks abt satan and demons unendingly?

LordReed:
You like the blessings part of your Yahweh stories but the curses part reveals how much of a crazy god you believe in so you shift those parts to Satan so that you can believing in a benevolent god.

Lol. No I love all parts of YHWh. The Judgment and Justice.

Choose ye this day...

And Okcornel. When I engage people, I focus on the Op not the person I'm engaging. But, If you want to insult me personally let me know so that I can open a thread for that purpose, when you have your fill, you can breath down and work tall telling yourself how good you are at insults.

Only the unintelligent and people with complex attack persons instead if issues.

OkCornel:
I called out someone for not respecting himself by trolling and heckling people far younger than him?

How do you know his age? I don't want to dwell on this because I can not tell you who to respect. I No be your mama.

OkCornel:
Abi is that what you dream to be that jobless doing that in your old age? Arguing with and trolling younger people?

When you grow old, may you never have a discussion with those younger than you. May they completely ignore and relegate you. If you try to join in a discussion, may they do to you what you are doing here. No wahala.

OkCornel:
Face the issue here. Double standards![

If you meant this to be an insult, then you failed. You don't know my history in Nairaland if you do you, you shd know how thick-skinned I am.
You be childs for mouth. I don repent so move along.

OkCornel:
You claim calling someone names is not Christlike, yet that same person calls another person a charlatan and a demonologist, shebi that one is Christlike too abi? Abeg stop justifying hypocrisy here jare.

I'm beginning to perceive a teenager behind this Moniker. Maybe I shd stop responding to you.

I asked you what the person did before he was called a Charlatan and a demonologist.
I didn't see the Post where he was called that. But till now, you didn't answer that post.
Here you are thinking you can insult me since your mouth is bigger than mine.

Listen. You may think you are young so your insults to your seniors shd hurt, but even if you are 20yrs, you are an old man to someone else. So don't worry, you shall grow old, or if you hate old age, may you never grow old so that the younger ones wouldn't have to insult you by calling you old man.

OkCornel:
Anas09, Here is Kenneth Hagin clearly writing in his book - The Triumphant Church, page 147. That Jesus appeared to him and taught him extensively on the subject of demons.

But oh well, according to you...that is "the deep things of Satan".
In that book, you'll see how the operations of the kingdom of darkness is laid bare for all to see. Unless you want to tell us Kenneth Hagin is a charlatan also obsessed with the deep things of Satan.


I will address your post much later today in detail. I am quite amused at your responses here.

Hahahahahahaha. Sorry you picked the wrong minister because this one I follow closely and he doesn't teach the deep things of satan .

Compare what the Op is doing here with what Pa Hagin taught if they are the same.
Again. Let me reiterate, before you run off shouting that i said I don't believe in the existence of demons or their operations. I do.

How many of PA Hagin's books have you read? How many kf them are about satan?

Good God gave him an encounter that's personal, you don't make a doctrine out of it.

And pls can you breath in for a moment? Let's talk about the Word of God, shall we?


What are the deep things of satan Jesus talked about?

OkCornel:
And Anas09, I can see that absolutely nothing was said concerning this. Perhaps with the hope that it will be covered by subsequent posts.

Well done.

I didn't see the mention and I didn't see my moniker mentioned in it. Was it referring to me?

And who said I support homosexuality? I only asked you not to derail this thread by leaving that topic out of here. Is that what you mean by double standardness. So because I wasn't petty by hunting him everywhere I met him with the talk of homosexuality means I support him? Wow.

So this is your Justification for insulting an elder?
Okay dear. Weldone. May no one ever insult you in your old age.

OkCornel:
Please do us a favor and call Kenneth Hagin, Morris Cerullo, Dr. Rebecca Brown and numerous other ministers operating at that level heretics nau?

What are you waiting for?

Why is it difficult for you to un-follow this thread?

Why shd I call them charlatans? Apart from Rebecca Brown does the two men dwell on satan?
Hahahahahahahaha. You have ran out of what to say? Not everyone is a charlatan.

OkCornel:
Please go ahead and tell us Kenneth Hagin is a charlatan and someone obsessed with "the deep things of satan" like the OP. Add Morris Cerullo and Dr. Rebecca Brown to the list

In other words, we should discard the Word of God and dwell on ministers' personal experiences? Go ahead and say it.[/quote]Kenneth E. Hagin is not a charlatan and he never made his ministry about demons. He is one minister I follow so don't think you can post things he didn't say here, I wld know.
But, Wait. Between Jesus and these people who shd we be talking about here?

I am a Christian. A follower of Jesus. A Believer in the Bible as the Word of God first. So I'd stick with the Word. When you're done with Believing in people's personal encounters, come, we shall talk Jesus.

OkCornel:
Just go ahead and say it.

Here I am trying to preach the gospel and here you are trying to drag us to what people claimed they saw and experienced in their personal lives and ministries. I'm not doubting them, but are their encounters authorities to stand on and build doctrines? OKcornel, have you exhausted scriptures?

Can you post one verse of the Bible where Jesus, both in the Old and New Testament dwelled on satan and his operations?
Just one verse of scripture pls.

OkCornel:
Lol... Apostle Paul must be obsessed about the "deep things of Satan" as well

No i wont. That is why he warned you in the Col 2:8-9 you quoted earlier. But. You couldn't see it lolzzzzz.

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OkCornel:
Please read again.


I thought you would have un-followed this thread by now.

What did you say that is real?

Why not you take this damning heretic thread down?

LordReed:
Madam there was no mention of idols in the passages I quoted and they had nothing to do with idols either.

Oga, so the Egyptians didn't worship idols okwaya? And God wasn't warning the Islraelites not to disobey by Worshiping idols?
When Moses performed miralces with the power if YHWH the magicians did theirs. Which power did they use? W
When God said in Exd 12:12 that He wld judge the gods of Egypt Which gods was He referring to?

LordReed:
Stop changing the subject. There is nothing in those passages about Satan, you are the one injecting Satan into the matter thereby making your Yahweh a liar and rendering your scriptures unreliable.

I guess the Magicians were working for Jehovah while opposing Moses.
Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.
Aren't the gods of Egypt Idols (According to Jehovah)? You are so funny the way you argue.

LordReed:
You are eager to believe your Yahweh blesses you but you are quick to call on Satan as the author of misfortune.[/quote
Am I wrong to? Pls prove to me that he is not the author of misfortunes.
[quote author=LordReed post=81663975]That reveals your motivations quite clearly.

You know me too well. My motivations are quite clear, no fear of favour. I am an unapologetic believer and follower of Jesus of Nazareth. If I die I discover I wasted my time believing in Him on earth, then let His fate be mine too. But what the Word says He is, is what I believe and will die believing.

OkCornel:
Ah... now that I have shown you where the Lord Jesus spoke to Hagin on the issue of demons, it's suddenly not a universal biblical teaching.

Okay now. I have lost the regard i had for you, shd I lose taking you serious too? First off.
You didn't show me anything. You only mentioned Hagin.
Secondly, Pa Hagin's personal experience can not be held as an authority or a premise to stand on and build a universal doctrine. This is so lame.

Smith Wigglesword was woken up by a demon once, when he saw what it was, he didn't bother to pray or cast it out, he just turned back, went inside and slept. Shd that become a way everyone shd deal with demons?

Hagin was having a conversation with Jesus once. A demon tried to distract him by playing in-between them. Hagin waited for o Jesus to cast it out. When He didn't, he (Hagin) commanded it to get out, and it left. When he asked the Lord why He didn't do anything. He told him that He does not do for us what He had given us power to do.
Shd that become a Canon in the Church? Does every Christian believe in the ministry of Hagin?

OkCornel:
And it was the Koran Hagin was eventually quoting from on the subject matters of demons in the Triumphant Church ba?

Did he quote where Jesus taught the Church about satan, demons their names and their operations? Feel free to post the chapter of the Triumphant Church so that I can verify. I am 100% sure he didn't.

OkCornel:
You accuse me of inflicting fear into people?

Yes I do. You and the Op and then you called those who might fall cowards. If only you know what you just did.

OkCornel:
Same people who are under the bondage of fear since God knows when?

Those same people who are under the bondage of fear are the same ones Jesus died for and He handed them over to you with a message of boldness sound mind and freedom. But. Instead of you teaching them that. You leave what you're sent to do and are doing the opposite, yet you boastfully called them Cowards.

Your own better.
As I'm typing this to you now, I'm also chatting with a young lady on WhatsApp who Pmed me from here. because of her passed experiences she's so afraid that she might die soon. She hears a voice telling her that she wld die. And i'm standing with the word of God telling her it's a lie from the pit of hell. So, she's a coward right?
I shd laugh at her and tell her people like her have no place in heaven? Who do you think you are? What do you have that Jesus didn't give to you?

OkCornel:
Like I said earlier, only a coward and a distracted believer will ignore the testimonies of victory over evil forces and rather focus on what the kingdom of darkness is capable of, thus opening the door for fear into his or her life.

I see the Pride in those you mix with is robbing off on you. Or maybe it's been there all the while but I didn't notice it.

The Testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy.Rev. 19:10 Can you explain what that means?

OkCornel:
It is obvious you have made up your mind not to have anything to do on this subject matter.

That's not the point. Studying the scriptures and mediating on them gives revelations. When I had a revelation on The weapons of our war fare are not carnal ...'. I knew that satan we wasn't my problem, I was.
I had perceived satan to be using those weapons against me. I didn't even know what the weapons were until the Lord showed me. Then I saw all the weapons in me. I hold them in my hands and as long as I held them, and used them, satan will always overcome me.
The warfare is in our minds, not outside. Pride (SELF), arrogance malice. Unforgiveness. fear, lying, deceit. Stealing. Coveteousness, greed, etc. These are the weapons and they are strongholds and where do you find them? Outside or inside of you?
Cut Pride off, and you see all others falling apart.

When I discovered how satan makes me use them, and that as long as i keep using them, I wld be failling. I began dropping them one by one. It takes time. But, I'm doing it. This is Deliverance, not looking into the abyss to see the red eyes of the Dragon.

OkCornel:
Kindly hit the un-follow button as this thread is not useful to you.

Hahahahahahahaha. Kindly pull the thread down as it misleads Christians to do what Jesus did not command.

You are yet to tell me why YHWH both in the Old and New Testament largely ignored satan.

OkCornel:
Thank you jare my brother. This is the bitter truth some people don't even want to hear.

What is the bitter truth in what he said?

OkCornel:
I have shown you where Jesus exposed the workings of Demons and their operations to Kenneth Hagin. What is your next excuse?

Wait, lolzzzzz. That is your authority? OKcornel. As much as I believe in the ministry of PA Hagin, it's not Enough.
What if I don't believe in his ministry? What if I'm not a Word of Faith believer like MuttleyLaff for example? What then?

If the Lord revealed to Pa Hagin how to handle demons in his ministry that is not a universal Biblical Teaching so shouldn't be used in a discussion. Except we are talking about Hagins ministry.
Pls from the Bible, show me where Jesus taught THE CHURCH about satan and demons.

OkCornel:
I have repeated it several times on this thread where believers should channel their focus on. The testimonies of victories rather than the abilities of the kingdom of darkness!

[quote author=OkCornel post=81662894]How will fear not creep into a coward who is focused on what the kingdom of darkness can do?

And you are the tool satan is using to infuse that fear into the coward, no?

OkCornel:
Heaven is not a place for cowards. Shy away from this subject matter all you want, but the reality will still stare you in the face.

So, by all means you try to keep them out of it by helping satan abi?
Lolzzzzz. You may think you have said something smart. If only you the danger of what you are doing. Jesus values the life of those you call cowards dearly. He died for them and if you cause even one of them to fall, then you'd know He is a consuming fire.


Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Keep inflicting fear into those who probably are trying to come out of the Scotch of saran, when they fall back, you'd laugh and call them Cowards.

Wait for Jesus.

OkCornel:
I will re-echoe this.
The focus should be on the testimonies of victory over evil forces, rather than focus on what evil forces are capable of!

The testimony shd be Victory over Sin and it's effect. Evil forces will never have power over you if you don't mingle with them through Sin.

Do you even know what it means to [Sit with Christ in Heavenly places, far above Principalities and Powers?[/b]
It's a different realm. Even here on earth, Light and darkness cannot cohabit, how then wld demons live in Heavenly places?

Forced of darkness and all their operations cannot exist there. It's when you crawl back to their territory then you'd begin to battle with them. Teach people to walk away from sin and satan will automatically vanish.
If you no chop yam and red oil how your hand go take stain with oil?

OkCornel:
While the OP is doing a good work of bringing out the secrets of the kingdom of darkness to the open, believers take heed so fear will have no root in you. Don't go and develop a mindset on how powerful Satan is while you have something far more powerful within you and with you.

The question is first off is. Why didn't Jesus teach these things?
And which good job are you talking abt if you know it could cast fear into people?

Do you know that you are what you hear? Even The Lord warned us to be careful what we hear and how we hear. Lk 8:18. For what you hear moulds and conditions your life.

If you don't want people living in fear of what satan can do and is doing, why tell them about these things?

Na everybody mature spiritually Like you? Some of us are not afraid of satan, but do you know what some people are going through in their lives? Why not just obey Jesus?

OkCornel:
Colossians 2 v 8-10;
8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.

Have you seen that warning I am talking about? Even Apostle Paul said it. In trying to justify the Op, you just indicted him.

What are elemental forces of this world if not all the Op is talking?
How many pages down the line, no solution to how struggling folk can break free from the captivity of satan.

Now we know all about satan, how can we then come out from cultism? Can we come out by knowing all the names of demons?

[b]9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,

10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.[/quote]How much have you guys talked about this fullness of Christ?

What is the Fullness of Christ?

How can we walk into it?

How do we sustain it?

What are the things we can do to experience it?

What shouldn't we do if we want satan and demons to stay away from us?

These are the things we shd be talking about, not how many demons came down from heaven with satan and what they have been doing since they got here.

The ignorant who run from one prayer house to the other, people who all the prophets and prophetesses know their names are here claiming deliverance when they don't even know that lying is the gravest sin.

Tell people to stop lying, let them conquer the lying spirit first then we can celebrate victory.

OkCornel:
The kingdom of darkness must be exposed so believers will not repeat the mistakes of their forerunners in the church of Pergamos and Thyatira.

IGNORANCE AND NAIVETY IS NO EXCUSE.[/b

What mistakes did the Church in Pergamon Thyatira make?
You can take scriptures out of context eh.

So Jesus was ignorant as He ignored satan and demons in his teachings.
[b] Why aren't you even talking about why Jesus didn't go into satanism while on earth?

OkCornel:
The powers of the kingdom of darkness thrives on ignorance and fear.

Do you know that the Col 2:8-9 you quoted warned you from doing what you're doing?

Continue.

Jesusjnr, I need you to expose my witchcraft teachings here.
Its not enough to call me a witch. How am I a witch? How do I manifest? In my teachings? Expose me.

Maybe I shd open a thread and outline all your heretic teachings in Nairaland.

LordReed:
When I say you invoke Satan all the time, you'll disagree, yet here we are. Satan was not mentioned in any of the passages I cited.

But idols were mentioned abi?
The Lord of Reeds, There are two opposing powers in the Spirit realm, The Kingdom of Light and Christ as God, the kingdom of darkness and satan as the head. if you obey one, you automatically disobey the other. If we disobey Christ, who wld we be obeying? If we turn from Light where we will be if not darkness? Lolzz.

LordReed:
Yahweh says he will bring about retribution but you are insisting Yahweh is lying by mentioning Satan, when he categorically says he Yahweh, will accomplish a thing. Was it Satan who brought snakes to kill the Israelites?

Feel free to call God a liar, it won't be your first time tho.

I have explained principles of Cause and Effect, (sowing and reaping) to you, but if you insist on going your way, fine.

LordReed:
If you say it was, then you have said the scriptures are false.

Actions has consequences my dear LordReed.

If your Dad were a Chemist who manufactured Gamalin20, and he told you it's poisonous and wld kill you if you drank it, would you call him wicked if you disobey him and drink it?

The Laws of Life and death are presented before us, choose. You, trying to spin it 360° won't change anything. My God can never lie.

Man has disobeyed and is still disobeying His laws, so, we shd enjoy the consequences.

LordReed:
I don't see how you can justify belief in these scriptures if you cannot even agree to their veracity.

I completely believe in what they say. God made those laws and will not hesitate on bringing their consequences down on anyone who provokes them on themselves. Just like He will not hesitate to bless those who obey him.