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jesusjnr:
The gospel of mammon you mean?

Compare the Words of Jesus and the teaching of the prophet of mammon you worship and you should be able understand the difference for it's stark, only that you have been blind to the Truth by witchcraft.

You can start using this teaching of Jesus about blessings.

That is why I'm praying that Gods blessings shd ellude you nau.
May you die in abject poverty, say Amen.
Evertime you work may thieves steal your sweat, say Amen.
May you be frustrated at every turn. Say Amen.

May misfortunes upon misfortunes befall you. Say Amen Nicolai.

May your rights be denied you. As you hate it, may it never locate you. Say Amen.

As for me, from Genesis down to Revelation and until Christ returns, i see YHWH creating the entire earth and handing it over to man to enjoy.

No one walked or walks with God and remained/ remains poor. Was it Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Joshua, Gideon, Boaz, David, Solomon, Job, Mordecai, Esther, Daniel, Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyakhilome? So Na me go dey poor? Not me.

Satanic agent Nicolai wishes that Christians will remain poor so that his master the devil wld be running our lives giving us options about what to do and how to live. On your face!!!!!

Nicolai Jesusjnr, Satan's agent, tell your master that he failed by not stopping Jesus from resurrecting. The power he stole from Adam and all the riches of the earth is in the hands of the redeemed now.

Go and kill yourself.

See this thief accusing others when his god TBJoshua is one of the richest prophet amongst the Nicolaitans prophets.

LordReed:
LoL! How did I criticize him? By stating the facts?

Which facts have you stated here?
Well, whatever facts you think you have stated, the Lord Jesus have proven you wrong.

LordReed:
You just seem to divert to things that are not the issue being discussed. How does any of this answer the question?

I didn't divert.

My point remains that, no one can understand how LFC preaches the gospel if he is just a visiting guest or a none member.

CodeTemplar:
What pillar?

This month's Financial Fortune.

LordReed:
This is called equivocation, nowhere was it claimed that the gospel is not being preached. I attend Winners every Sunday and I am in agreement with her assessment. There was a broadcast this past Monday, was heaven, hell or rapture mentioned during the broadcast?

So, if heaven and hell were not mentioned on Monday that means they are not mentioned in LFC?
And LordReed, aren't you an atheist? Or you go to LFC to gather what you'd use as arsenals against the Church?

Well, i am a Word based Faith Based believer who hated LFC dearly until I got close. Today I repented of my stance and asked God to forgive me.

In the passed, I critiqued men of God I don't agree with their ministry or their administration, not realizing that the Holy Spirit gives the same gifts to the different people but the Administration of those gifts are different. But, now I know why different ministries carry out their mandates differently.

Today, I understand why there are many denominations in the body of Christ, that's because I now understand why the Church is called 'A body'. The hands has their duties, even in the hands, there're fingers functioning differently. There're finger nails performing a duty in the body. so does the head, the legs, the mouth, eyes, nose, teeth, tongue, lungs, liver, heart, kidney, stomach, diff. bones etc.

Only an ignorant man wld expect the head to act like the legs, or the lungs to act like the toes. These all function together to keep the body alive and going.

Oyedepo has his mandate, Kumuyi has his. If anyone expects Oyedepo to leave his calling to do Kumuyi's calling, it'll be like telling the hand to leave putting food in the mouth and put it into the ears.

Enough said.

LordReed:
That is exactly the purpose, to fill the churches.

Well, I can't and won't do anything to counter your opinions.
For one thing I know that is that Bishop Oyedepo is doing what Jesus commanded him to do.

Luke 14:23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
If you criticize him for carrying out this mandate, then you shd ask yourself who who you're working for.

LordReed:
The person in question in the OP says Winners does not teach regularly about heaven, hell and rapture. Unless you have specific examples of regular teachings of these subjects, you are not doing anything to counter the statement.

How did she know that when she is not a committed member?

I just gave you an example how the gospel is being preached in LFC and how what she said is inculcated into the messages. How will she know that these messages are not regularly preached if she never listens to the messages?

jesusjnr:
Yes oh, May the blessings of witches and mammon and all his worshippers elude me in the name of Jesus! Amen, amen and amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the blessings which is not hinged upon the obedience of the Word of God is a curse for even the Satanists have much such blessings yet they are cursed.

Any blessings is not hinged upon my obedience of the Word of God as is stated by Jesus in Luke 11:28, that the armed robbers, serial rapists, frausters, ritual killers, serial adulterers, etc., would just have to say Amen to receive without turning away from their wicked way, I reject in Jesus name!

Tufiakwa, no be for my head, back to sender, God forbid for such antichrist blessings.

I don't follow blessings, I follow the Blesser by keeping His Word, and His blessings follow me wherever I go.

People are preaching the gospel of the Kingdom, this thief is everywhere throwing his demonic spitttle. Geraut Nicolai.

LordReed:
Can you take a picture of this year's prophetic declaration and show us where rapture was mentioned in relation to soul winning?

But why are we so out on the streets winning souls for the kingdom if we don't have Rapture in view?

We pray for God to release reaper Angels into the field to prepare the minds of the lost to attend to our calls as we go to them. Why do we do that? Is it to just fill the Church?

LordReed:
Can you take a picture of this year's prophetic declaration and show us where rapture was mentioned in relation to soul winning?

It's not like that. It's not Captured in the Caption, it's in the body of teachings.

The Prophetic Theme/Series for this month is Financially Fortunes. It teaches believers how to do business in a Kingdom way. How to apply
Kingdom Financial Principles. How they work. How to profit from the Word.

What did Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Job and the rest did to become giants in their days?

What we as Christians should not get involved in when doing business.

If we compromise and sin while doing business, you have transgressed the commandments of God.

If you steal to get ahead, if you lie to get ahead, if you give and take bribes to get ahead, if people work for you but you refuse to pay them. You are working for satan not God. Repent, restitute and do the right thing if you want God to prosper you.

So, you see? It's not in the Caption, go deeper.

LordReed:
Already answered.

Yeah, i saw.

LordReed:
Good, at least you agree that that part of her assessment was correct.

I will not say she's correct, because just like me before I joined I thought the same thing too. But, when I went inside, I saw differently.

The way Living Faith preach the Word of God is exceptional.

One cannot claim laxity there when they teach you the Word the way they do.

Let's take Love for example. If the Running Theme/Series is Love, for four Sundays all that'll be preached is Love. Every scripture that relates to love is brought out and analyzed. Examples will be given to you of the power of Love, the efficacy of Love, the nature and activities if love.

The benefits will be given to you, the dangers of not loving will be given to you. Who to Love, how to show love.

The acts of love will be given to you. The things you do which does not constitute love are given to.

You'd hear this in Covenant Hour of prayer every day of that month.
You'd hear it in the evenings during prayer raids.

You'd hear it in your Cell meetings.

You'd hear it in your Unit meetings.

Anything that gathers the brethren for that month, it is Love related discourse that shall be heard.

So, if you attend Church three times in that month, you'd think, these people don't talk about anything else but Love.

Tell me anyone who will be consistent in all of these services who'd come out to say what they say here. People like this go to church once in a month. lol.

People just believe what other people say about others and maintain a wrong stand about others.

I no blame them sha. I was there.

Today, I'm even shaky as to whether I can marry outside winners Chapel. I want to marry a man who hears what I hear, prays how I pray and is zealous for souls as I do.

CodeTemplar:
If just those you mentioned is what you are talking about then. I see no biggie in not giving attention to them by Winners Chapel. I prefer they way they preach things like righteousness, godliness, wisdom, divine direction, redemption, restitution among others than heaven, hell and rapture.

Funny enough there's no way all you mentioned (which are the Pillars of Winners Chapel),will be preached without preaching Holiness, repentance and restitution, that they so much shout about.

They want it preached, but after hearing it, they go home and continue in their sins S tho it was never preached.

Financial Fortune is the focus for this month, but Yesterday, my Resident pastor, preaching financial fortune hinged so much on the things that will make us not be financially empowered by God. You want to prosper as a Christian? Don't do these;

1. Stealing (He emphasized on stealing as tho the message was about stealing)
2. Lying in business.
3. Cheating others.
4. Not paying those who work for you.
5. Refusing to pay your debts.
6. Giving and taking bribes.
7. Being stingy both to God, your parents and everyone around you.
8. Ungratefulness to God.
9. Unfaithfulness in tithing.
10. Idleness/laziness.
11. Lack of diligence.
12. Poor saving culture.
13. Lack of faith in God (Doubting)

These were the subtopics he dwelled on. But, the Message was 'Financial Fortune'

Anyone who heard 'Financial Fortune' and walk passed will conclude they're talking about prosperity, not knowing that it's much more than that.

LordReed:
That heaven, hell and rapture are not a regular subject of preaching in Winners?

How can rapture be preached if not through urgent soul winning as we've been doing since 2015.

LordReed:
Of course they can't but how does that remove from the facts on ground?

what are the facts on ground?

EVILFOREST:
So after reading through such a CRITICAL THINKING WRITE UP, this is the soured stuff you could come up with..??
LATER, U start blaming BUHARI....

What is critical about what you wrote there?

Lolzzzzzzzzzz.

Maximus69:
That's why i "Maximus" only discuss with lovers of truth as in righteousness, NOT arguing with bragats who only feel like spewing grammars like the proud and lousy Pastors whose presentations has no positive effect on their congregants apart from being eloquent in speech!

You were bragging about the understanding of the scriptures, to explain what Jesus meant to inculcate with the model prayer {Lord's prayer}, spoke as if you're throwing a challenge to someone who can't explain what's written and by the end of the day became silent after seeing the irrefutable interpretations of what you were bragging about.

For your information Sir,

Knowledge is the accumulation of useful information nobody is disputing that you don't have the head knowledge of what you're reading in the scriptures Sir

But

Wisdom is the Practical Applications of accumulated information for lasting benefits this is what no other religious group possesses apart from Jehovah's Witnesses!

Well that's the interpretation of the model prayer from the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses and it's the reason why there is NO room for
¤Curses of any kind in our midst!
¤Weapon carriers of any kind in our midst!
¤Hypocritical display of sacredness in our midst!
¤Racism in our midst!
So that the organization {despite having challenges of keeping people from different backgrounds in check due to many barbaric traits} have succeeded in making them see each and every other member of the organization {no matter where they may come from} as their brother in Christ whose welfare should be of serious concern to them!
God bless you!

All these long irrant empty words here won't cut with me.

Dose your JW governing council have only 'Our Father Who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name' as the Lord's prayer?

And, are you so zoombiyic that you had to go copy from your website and paste here?

You no get sense to think for yourself?

Like I said, when you are ready to analyze the Model Prayer, I will be here.

jesusjnr:
This is my response to mammon-worshipping Nairaland Jezebel the witch, a rapist and rape advocate who comes in sheep clothing to deceive the gullible!

May the blessings of the Lord you hate ellude you. Nicolai

jesusjnr:
The Devil in woman form!

Nicolai the demon's possessed teaching heresies in NL.

jesusjnr:
Antichrist and witch that comes in sheep clothing thinks she has anything to do with blessings of God, Lol!

Very funny.

Luke 11:28 (KJV)

But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

p.s. Jesus is the Word of God not the Bible! {John 1:1}

May the blessings you hate never come to you nau. No be weytin make you dey criticise Winners Chapel?

You go church Na only blessing dem dey talk about. But, to say weda na during Testimonies time or message, you run and say you n go answer me, but dey respond to all my posts.


May blessings ellude you as you hate them.

jesusjnr:
Look at this rapist/rape advocate and ignorant Nairaland witch who thinks that it takes for a mammon worshipper to pronounce blessings on anyone for the person to be blessed.

Any such blessings that is not hinged upon the obedience of God's Word is nothing but a curse!!!

For blessed are they who keep the Word of God!

And cursed are those who don't!

So only the cursed as your likes who don't and would rather not keep the Word of God that would depend on such mammonic pronouncements of blessings.

Therefore unless you can stop me from keeping the Word of God and become evil and sinful as you, that's the only way you can stop me from being not just blessed and a blessing. For just like Abraham our blessings are not hinged pronouncements of mammon worshippers but on obedience of God's Word.

Luke 11:28 (KJV)
But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Nicolai who blasphems the Bible keeps the Word of God?

As you hate the blessings of God, may it never locate you. Say Amen Nicolai.

jesusjnr:
Nairaland Jezebel the witch, and advocate of rapist and rape that comes in sheep clothing.

You can deceive men but God knows what's in your heart.

Hmmmm. Hear a demon possessed heretical Nicolai the damned.

jesusjnr:
In case the extent of your witchcraft made you not to hear me clearly the first time, I mean every single word of this saying.

Yet you can't resist responding to my post.
Nicolai the demon possessed, go ahead repond to me.

EVILFOREST:
She has made her points straightaway.
She doesn't want a ?Christian that will drag her to Hell, all in the name of MARRIAGE..
RELIGION alters the Intelligent Quotient of Individuals.
If People can only open their eyes to see and understand what Religion is all about and how it came into play

In other words, if you and I write an aptitude test, you'd score higher than I becos I believe in God and you don't?. Wow. This is death itself.

EVILFOREST:
b]FOR ME:[/b]
I am a Christian not because I chose to be.
But because I was born into a Christian family in a Christian dominated Region.
If I was born in Sokoto and brought up by SoKoTo people, I guess I would have gone to MECCA by now..
If I was born in ASIA, I would have ended up a HINDU...
If Given Opportunity, I will Completely BAN RELIGIONS that keep disturbing other Religions.
No RELIGION has Unrestricted access to GOD over the other

Lol. Sorry. No one is born a Christian. Christianity is a choice you make after you have grown up to understand what sin is. We don't inherit our faith, just like you do not inherit a love life.

Ignorance is bliss tho.

EVILFOREST:
No RELIGION has right to kill for its GOD.
Allow the GODS to do their Killings, after all they are known for their divinity.
RELIGIONS were designed by MEN as away to reverence the creator and for atonement of sins of the land.
GOD does not have a RELIGION...ask me why....?

Whoever said God has a religion. God calls people into a relationship with him. Do you have a relationship with Him?

EVILFOREST:
b]MY QUESTION:[/b]
When the ASIANS die, where do they go to since only 1% of them are Christians or Muslims..??
Where are our FOREFATHERS now, especially those who were fetish in worship, murdered twins and were Polygamous in nature before Christianity came...?[/i]

When you die, you shall see them, ask them.

From the days of Adam, God has been here, if your forefathers didn't believe in God it wasn't because they didn't know abt God, but, like you today, they choose to worship satan.

Everything we do here is recorded for or against us. When we meet God, everyone's memory which is everyone's dairy shall be opened and we shall see whether we are fit for heaven of hellfire.

judedwriter:
I can't both agree with you...the over-emphasis on prosperity has almost drowned true spirituality in winners chapel. They hardly preach on repentance, holiness, rapture, but quote all scriptures on giving, riches and prosperity.

You are a lair. How many of their Pillars are about Prosperity? Thier Prophetic themes are twelve, one for each month, how many of them are about Prosperity for you to say Prosperity has drowned True Spirituality?

jesusjnr:
God forbid! Over my dead body! Back to sender!

Anything from mammon worshipping Nairaland Jezebel i reject in Jesus name. Amen!!!!!

What an abomination to God's servant!

Tufiakwa!

Nonsense.

And it shall be over your dead body as you have confessed with your mouth.

jesusjnr:
God forbid! Over my dead body! Back to sender!

Anything from mammon worshipping Nairaland Jezebel i reject in Jesus name. Amen!!!!!

What an abomination to God's servant!

Tufiakwa!

Nonsense.

Father, in Jesus name, may your blessings ellude this lair who goes about blaspheming your name and the body of Christ.
When he goes to the left, may your blessings go to the right. When he goes to the right may your blessings go to the left. May the Sun deny him its warmth. May the Sun deny him its light. May water deny him its satisfaction. May air choke him. May his sleep depart from him. May everything that is your blessings ellude him.

As he hates blessings, may blessings hate him back. As he loves cursing, may curses never depart from him and his household. Amen.

jesusjnr:
God forbid! Over my dead body! Back to sender!

Anything from mammon worshipping Nairaland Jezebel i reject in Jesus name. Amen!!!!!

What an abomination to God's servant!

Tufiakwa!

Nonsense.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Nicolai. The Accuser of the brethren. Dare to answer my questions if it won't be discovered you lied.

Maximus69:
Can you mildly and respectfully discuss without insults, abusive speeches or curses?

If so you can ask any question regarding Jesus' model prayer!

But as for your first question, this is how we Practically Apply the first sentence!

Our father, who lives in heaven, let your name be sanctified.

¤Our father!
Jesus' use of the preposition OUR connotes collectivism, so nobody should lay a curse or call down evil on another creature made in God's image {Luke 9:52-56 compared to Genesis 1:27} because the Creator is OUR Father! Matthew 5:45

¤Lives in heaven!
The person we are worshipping is not here on earth so our prayers shouldn't be heard or noticeable by those who aren't worshippers of OUR invisible God. Neither should our gifts of mercy or offerings be paraded before anyone {NOT even before fellow worshipers} Matthew 6:1-7

¤Let your name be sanctified!
Many atrocities have been committed in the past in God's name, so true worshipers need to distinguish themselves {Matthew 5:14-16} in other for all observers to identify the GROUP worshipping the true God whose is LOVE! John 13:34-35, 17:20-23 compared to 1John 4:8

Please you too can present your own version of the Practical Applications of the model prayer so that everyone can perceive the Benefits thereof!

God bless you Sir!

This is all you can say about the Lord's Prayer? Lolzzzzz. When you are ready, I'll be here.

I won't blame anyone who castigates Winners Chapel, because I did worse. If anyone had told me I wld become a winner I wld ve spat on his face. Mention Winners and all I hear is Jet. Money and Fame. I felt it was a sin for the children of God to live well.

I used to think they were not serious Christians and all they talk abt is money. I thought they were Wordless and prayerless carnal Christians until I was invited to attend a WOFBI graduation service there, which I grudgingly attended. But, the service was lively. So I went again, and again, and again.

I found myself alternating my church then and Winners Chapel. I'd go to Winners Chapel First service and go to mind afterwards. I eventually decided to leave my Church and be serious in winner as I don't do anything passively.

When I joined their workforce was when I discovered that, as a Winner, if wasn't careful, I'll be going to Church every blessed day. for there's Church service every day. Morning and evening. In the morning One Hour, 6 to 7 a.m Covenant Hour of Prayer, in the evening, Prayer raids. Evangelism is every day.

Fasting in Winners Chapel? You go ready o. Prayer? You go ready o. No be moimoi.

The Urgency of the return of Christ is shut into your bones. They make you feel guilty if any souls gets lost when you had the chance to reach it with the gospel. If you walk passed someone you'd feel responsible if anything happened to that soul you shd ve saved by sharing Christ.

Who said Winners Chapel does not preach Rapture or Salvation? If they don't, the On going Revival is for what? How is it maintained?

Operation By All Means was just concluded, where we went to any length to reach the lost.

Use your money to pay Tfare for New Converts. We hire buses to convey them to church. If they complain of food, we provide. We built low cost houses for them and pay their kid's schools fees.

During the week, those who can, gather in Church in the day time praying for the harvest of the lost souls, while some go out into rhe field to reap these souls, taking their names and phone numbers. On Saturday mornings, we gather in Church calling and inviting them to church service the next day. We go on to follow them up and plant them in Home Cells. We follow them up to house visitations. Which Church in Nigeria is doing this?

This year we have a goal to plant 5000 Churches, we have planted 3000 already and have sent Evangelists to man them. Before December, we shall plant the remaining 2000.

Today was Mid-week service, you'd think it's a Sunday service. Crowd. Souls are being saved, people are getting delivered from satanic operations and are healed. You hear Testimonies that are hard to believe but undeniable.

We don't focus on satan, he is too small to have our attention. We are the redeemed. We focus on why Christ died, and what He accomplished for us by virtue of his victory on the cross.

Anyone can stand outside and look in through the window, but all they'd see is what they had conceived in their minds abt Winners Chapel. I did same anyway.


Oh, if I begin to list the Testimonies I have encountered since I joined winners Chapel.

Now I know why they are called LIVING FAITH. THEIR FAITH IS INDEED ALIVE.

Righteousness89:
All Praise to GOD..

Alleluia.

jesusjnr:
It's good to see members of Oyedepo's church who would rather not be sentimental about spiritual matters, but speak the truth about the church regardless.

For I can remember the first time I was yet trying to find a church to settle in that would be able to cater for my spiritual needs, which took to the Abuja headquarters at the time. But my experience in the service was so disappointing that I wondered if this was a church or something else. For it was one blessing after the other, and the whole church would say a resounding amen, that after the service I had to ask the person who attended to first timers, why so much blessings?

And she tried to explain to me that it was scriptural but to me that just ruled out the church from my list of churches to choose from, because it wasn't the kind of church that could serve the purpose for which I wanted to become a part of any church which was spiritually inclined.

God bless.

When did they talk about blessings, was it during Testimonies time or the message proper? because, the message for the day will be hinged on the monthly series, so if you attended a service which the message hinged on God's blessing that is what you'd hear for the whole of that month, just like if it was hinged on Wisdom, its wisdom you'd hear all though out. Every scripture that talks about wisdom will be used to teach it.

So, are you averse to God's blessings?

May what you don't like not come to you in Jesus name. Amen.