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jesusjnr:
He would soon answer you Himself for you called Him a demon!

Lord have mercy!

jesusjnr:
Lord have mercy on your soul because you don't know what you are doing.

budaatum:
In 2005 after a similar church pastor would have stolen my money, stolen my car, my house and my beautiful twin sister, I was investigating churches with my cousin who manna fell from heaven for and we went to Oyedepo church. But I'll tell you first about Tunde Bakare church. Now that was a sermon. It's been years and I got a hole in my head so stuff leaks out but when I heard Bakare my heart literaly, as did I, leaped up and clapped for him and the congregation got up and joined in too. Quickly, as soon as the sermon ended my cousin and I fled and she said I was crazy! "They don't stand up and clap for Pastor!" I was like, "why not? It was a very good sermon!" And she said, "You are crazy", and warned me not to crazy at Oyedepo church.

On the road first try, moto full, road jam, I'm like "what the fuq!" And returned home, no way putting myself through suffer to mog in Ota from Ikotun! Following Sunday, two hours early while everyone' was still in bed, we arrived. Got to say, the space was neat and tidy, organised, economical, well aired, a decent view wherever one sat. I walked around and checked - na only cousin, me and ushers kuku de that time, though ushers watched with disapproval as I embarrassed my cousin. Just what one would expect from a mathematician, and I wondered if this was for real. I chose a seat near the back despite ushers ushering me front and watched the place fill up. Service began on time, no two hour noise making nonsense! And then Oyedepo preached!

At Bakare's, the feeling I'd had was a teacher teaching "calculus", which was impressive, but as I was leaving, I could see his congregation didn't understand a word he had said. While Oyedepo was going to one day teach calculus to his congregation but knew he had to start from 1 + 1 = 2.

In my own opinion, considering how well he's grown since then, building Oyedepo City and all, I think he qualifies as a competent indyadual who has most definitely been fruitful and multiplied and replenished and subdued and has dominion and is therefore, very blessed. I'm at least very certain that if I ever achieve ⅛ of ⅛ Oyedepo, I would say God blessed me.

I don't agree that he was "milking anyone dry". He is a teacher afterall, and must be paid. But if what Oyedepo is getting is "special curse" then I better tell God to not bless me but "special curse me" instead!

What ya say Ube, shall I oya nana nana na or not? Ok, let's ask.

Anyone here go Oyedepo church 2005? Come tell if it profit you!

desiredhome:
I wonder how some people will be claiming richest pastor in a country where over 60% are poor? including their members, these are criminal act, if not for money collected everyday inform of tithes, seed etc, through dubious means, what else do they do to become rich?
They have failed to realize that the people(contributing)
members are the church still they ignore them and be chasing fame, ignoring the purpose of their calling by twisting the Scripture to justify their greed.
Investing in bricks rather than human..

OkaiCorne:
The ones I've addressed so far;

1. The seat of Satan

2. The doctrine of Balaam.

Any further clarifications on these ones before I proceed further on the other ones?

OkaiCorne:
here we go;

THE DOCTRINE OF BALAAM

A quick glance at Numbers chapter 22 - 25 tells the story of Balaam, Balak and how the Israelites were seduced into idolatry and fornication.

Particularly Numbers 25 v 1-3;
1 While Israel was staying in Shittim, the men began to indulge in sexual immorality with Moabite women,
2 who invited them to the sacrifices to their gods. The people ate the sacrificial meal and bowed down before these gods.
3 So Israel yoked themselves to the Baal of Peor. And the Lord’s anger burned against them.
4 The Lord said to Moses, “Take all the leaders of these people, kill them and expose them in broad daylight before the Lord, so that the Lord’s fierce anger may turn away from Israel.”


Numbers 31 v 15-18 further shows that Balaam adviced Balak to do this in order to ensure the children of Israel would anger and grieve God so God can destroy them;

15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them.
16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people.
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.


Anas09, recall that the city of Pergamos was well known for idolatry and sexual immorality as a way of life for those resident there. Even the believers who were called out to live holy lives in service to the Lord still had those justifying and endorsing these traditions & culture in their midst, rather than full obedience to the instructions of Jesus.

Anas09, Do you have any clarification before I proceed further and finalize on the Pergamos church in my next two posts?

Abcruz:
Are you aware that some persons in the hospital pay more than 20k for the oxygen you breath in freely?

Are you aware that some people cannot eat food with their mouth?

Are you aware that some persons excrete only through surgical operation?

Appreciation to God is an application for more of his wonders. Learn to be grateful!

loldar2000:
My testimonies are numerous, which I cannot take for granted. I graduated with 2.1 plus Second degree but couldn't get job for good 5 years, my life was stagnant. Dec., 2017, I went to redemption camp (1st time), connected with God by faith (though am not a member). 3 days after the end of camp, I got an interview SMS and got the job with my highest qualification certificate (not even a stressful job but well paid). I clock a year last month and I am ever grateful to God. I am grateful to God for His favour, blessing, protection etc in my family. May His name be forever praised

Ishilove:
Oh... My...

OkaiCorne:
okay, thanks.

Do you have anything question so far on the church of Pergamos as regards the seat of Satan and the doctrine of Balaam?

So I can finalize that bit with my next two posts on the doctrine of the Nicolaitans...before we proceed to the Thyatira church.

OkaiCorne:
It's a selfish mindset sadly. I mean, having to give simply because I am expecting something from God in return. I detest and abhor that mindset.

If there is sincere and unconditional love in abundance, everyone would have just enough to meet their needs.

Hipsofagoddess:
Do you run an orphanage?

horia:
No conviction is stronger than the one gained from experience. None
They call it an encounter

butterfly777:
Hummmnn. Lesson for ministers of the gospel. Especially those who systemically beg, or even take bank loans.

Michellekabod2:
So "fornication"may have meant something else thousands of years back and thus people should not call sex between two unmarried adults as fornication and a single since the word may have depicted something else.
mor0ns like Anas09,solite3,Nlorubebe can't fathom this...

Possessedchild:
Im yet to get comfy wif touching stories like this. I refused to cry after reading the surgery...section. No death jokes and scary shits again please. The LORD is your strength verily in the present time of trouble.

jesusjnr:
Lol! Because you're already exposing your witchcraft by yourself. And only the spiritually blind wouldn't see it.

Anas09 the nairaland Jezebel you can keep fashioning weapons against God's prophets in Nairaland, but no weapons fashioned against us shall prosper.

jesusjnr:
So as not to get it twisted, I made this comment above about us not being doomed because of the devices of the devil.

And I actually made it out of compulsion because I was not comfortable with the conversation which I responded to ending on that particular note, because I thought it was not true that we are doomed because of the devices of the devil.

But I had to wait for over a day to address that erroneous idea since It was actually addressed to the Op and not me. So it was after he left it hanging and didn't correct it, that I did what I thought was appropriate.

And the bolded of that quote clearly shows my thoughts concerning the matter, as have several of my thoughts here which are usually hinged on obedience particularly of Jesus the Word of God which was in the beginning.

Yet I was the one at the receiving end of the most attacks from Anas09, who now claims to be concerned about the Word of God, when she first came here, which led to my leaving at the time when others joined her because of the respect I had for the thread.

Now the same anas09 who launched an attack on me that was emphasizing (the obedience of) the Word of God arguably more than anyone else on this thread, is now vehemently attacking the Op with the excuse of him focusing more on Satan more than the Word of God. So who's really fooling who?

To be continued.

OkaiCorne:
I agree with this totally. Jehovah Jireh surely provides.

Although, I also feel there should be an improved awareness among the wealthier and well to do brethren concerning the plight of missionaries, especially those in the remote areas. Monetary donations, used clothes and many other stuffs that can help missionaries and those they minister unto.

Mehn, there's a lot to be done.

LordReed:
Go learn the meaning of inaccuracies, donderhead.

LordReed:
Very rich coming from the person that came on here with the insults. Your rotted brain can't even hold 2 seconds memory without fuçking it up.

Now open your dirty mouth and receive my hot shít, that's what you are good for.

OkaiCorne:
Anas09, Let us set the ball rolling with the church of Pergamos. Before we move into the scriptures in Revelation 2, let's have an brief overview of the historical and culture prevalent in the city of Pergamos as at the time John wrote a letter to them.

HISTORICAL BACKGROUND OF THE CITY OF PERGAMOS
Pergamos was a rich ancient Greek city with most of it's income coming from trade by the sea ports and tourism (majorly from visitors thronging the various temples).

For a coastal city as such, which was a melting pot of trade, commerce and tourism, idolatry and sexual immorality was the order of the day and a way of life in a decadent Roman Empire. Devotion to many idols, temple prostitution to glorify the fertility goddess Athena and other sexual immoral acts were seen as the norm, culture and way of life in Pergamos.

The city of Pergamos had three temples dedicated to the worship of the Roman emperor, another for the goddess Athena, and the Great Altar of Zeus, the king of the Greek gods. The Altar of Zeus is what many bible scholars considered as the seat of satan referred to by Jesus in Revelation 2.

I have given a brief summary on the background of the ancient Greek city of Pergamos now in modern day Turkey.

For detailed expose on Pergamos, you can refer to this source;
https://www1.cbn.com/700club/seat-satan-ancient-pergamum

I would have pasted more links and resources, but I'm cautious of the anti-spam bot.


Antipas, a church leader at Pergamos was martyred for the sake of the gospel (Revelation 2 v 13). He was roasted alive in a bronze bull for the testimony of Jesus. See picture below for further details. You can also check Foxe's Book of Martyrs on that.

vicadex07:
Ahhhh. You have gone through so much. Glory be to God!

tejpot:
Jesus is wonderful

OkaiCorne:
God's mercies are sufficient to help you in this ministry.

Missionary work is one of the less glamorous but very important work required to spread the gospel in remote areas. I am thinking hard of how to make the system organized and better welfare wise for missionaries. I wonder how most of them in the remote areas survive.

Then as for the less privileged you cater for, I'm sure there's something you can relate with, there's no way you help this people and God will ignore you. I await more testimonies in this regard.

LordReed:
Actually I need you to open your mouth so that I can shít in it.

dangermouse:
Good.

I sent you an email request.