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Nella:
I just checked my mail and didn't see it, sorry, just send your details directly to tfynella1@gmail.com

God bless

Nella:
@Anas09, ....I'm unable to send you an email request.
my email address is on my profile just message me

Nella:
@Anas09, ....I'm unable to send you an email request.
my email address is on my profile just message me

nnamdiosu:
My dearest sister Ana's, how are you doing?

I know you said this message was for shadeyinka, but I can't help but adding what I sense in my spirit.


The key to understanding the message about our dreams are many times, very very many times.in the same dreams themselves. I'll explain.


Your dream signifies a troubling situation. A situation that even though it is troubling, you know very well that your faith in God won't waver. You know deep down you can do this, you know you were made for this. The flooded bank rep concerns, worries, fears etc.

The military man is your personal guardian angel /ministering angel.

The main issue, the main reason why you couldn't hear me speak is because of

DISTRACTION.
SOMETHING IS DISTRACTING YOU.
I SENSE WORRY. THATS WHY HE SPECIFICALLY ASKED YOU NOT TO WORRY.

THE SECOND REASON COULD BE BECAUSE YOU'RE FOCUSED ON THE WRONG VIEW.


But I'm more concerned that everything is gonna be all right in the end and your work is being met with approval by God.


Meanwhile, I never knew you had started the orphanage. Wow. God bless you richly. Amen

ThinkSmarter:
Christianity = love, understanding, forgiveness, compassion.
The opposite are hate, envy, jealousy lust, unforgiveness.
You don't need to forgive who loves you.
Because who loves you won't hate you, won't envy you, won't hurt you
You can only forgive who hates you.
Forgive your enemy.
Forgive as much as possible (70x7)
I don't believe in the existence of a creator deity in the likeness of an elderly man living in space.
But I believe so many of the teachings of Jesus Christ, Buddha, Mother Theresa, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King and all men of goodwill.

charly20:
Mr. Anas09, I like that we are trying to engage in an intelligent argument but you seem to project your sentiments into the argument.

charly20:
You have unfortunately made a wrong conclusion that I'm atheist.

charly20:
Matter of fact, I'm as christian as they come but I can't make an objective argument if I'm sentimental.

charly20:
Nowhere in all my preceding arguments have I said there is no Creator.

charly20:
I would continue the argument if we agree to be objective.
Have a good day!

charly20:
I don't think it would be correct to say that "the person who defined love as "Affectionate, benevolent concern or care for other people or beings, and for their well-being. " does not know what love is because he has defined love from a single perspective and not recognizing that there may be two types of love as you have pointed.

charly20:
I try to maintain the argument away from favouring any religion but you ask "what have the other gods from other cultures given to express their love to those that worship them?" and my answer is LIFE

charly20:
. What has any mortal done to deserve life? As you have also said that love is undeserving.

charly20:
Christians believe God gave Christ to redeem them and give them [b]"eternal life" [/b] which is just about the same thing I have said that all cultures believe in the existence of a supreme being and HE has given ALL LIFE.

charly20:
I believe that the universe exists in a dynamic state of balance. For every life taken, there is another born otherwise there would be "overpopulation or underpopulation" in the universe. I believe this is the "law of cause and effect". "For every action, there is equal and opposite reaction".

There is also the " law of compensation". "Which is what you sow is what you reap" . If this law does not exist, then I believe if I plant maize, I would reap rice or if I plant orange, I'll reap guava.

I believe there are several laws guiding the universe.
God has created an ecosystem and every ecosystem is self sustaining otherwise it dies off eventually.

charly20:
I believe that the universe exists in a dynamic state of balance.

charly20:
For every life taken, there is another born otherwise there would be "overpopulation or underpopulation" in the universe.

charly20:
I believe this is the "law of cause and effect". "For every action, there is equal and opposite reaction

charly20:
There is also the " law of compensation". [i]"Which is what you sow is what you reap" . If this law does not exist, then I believe if I plant maize, I would reap rice or if I plant orange, I'll reap guava.

charly20:
I believe there are several laws guiding the universe.
God has created an ecosystem and every ecosystem is self sustaining otherwise it dies off eventually.

shadeyinka:
Shalom my sister!
You seem to understand the message in the dream and that is the most important thing.
1. There is an obstacle to your goal but you are not afraid of it
2. Only that the obstacle was aided with darkness.
3. Jesus knew that you'll be distracted to a different destination if you engaged these forces
4. He therefore sent HELP to effortlessly take you to your destination.

Now, your problem is the Angel was speaking some important thing to you but you couldn't hear him (but you knew it was important because of the expression of the brother with you): WHY?

You didn't do anything amiss my sister BUT the message was passed about your future and seems to be great that the guy would be at awe about it.

The message was spoken to you but not meant to be revealed until the time is ripe. But the summary is it's about your great future achievements.

God does this a-times for our own protection. If satan knew that Mary would be the mother of Jesus, he could just as well kill Mary and the coming of the Messiah would have been stalled.
Some classified information is hidden from us only to prevent satan knowing about it.

1Cor 2:7-8:
"But we speak [the] wisdom of God in a mystery, which God has hidden, predetermining it before the world for our glory; which none of the rulers of this world knew (for if they had known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory)."

When the time is ripe for you to know the hidden information, Christ will send it again to you.

Rev 10:3-5:
"And he cried with a loud voice, like a lion roaring. And when he had cried, seven thunders spoke their sounds. And when the seven thunders spoke their sounds, I was about to write. And I heard a voice from Heaven saying to me, Seal up what things the seven thunders spoke, and do not write these things. ."


Rejoice in the core/revealed message and work hard as unto Christ. As you serve
1. Pray for grace to fulfill the mandate given to you excellently
2. Pray for grace that the plan of God for your life would be perfectly fulfilled.
3. Pray for His leading and guidance every step of the way
4. Pray for mercy and redirection in your shortcomings

Shalom

ikes9:
Our Heavenly Father likes to make us curious about important things,so that we'll pursue him more in order to KNOW and SATISFY our curiosity, everything our Heavenly Father does is meant to bring us closer to Him
This case isn't different,I believe it's an invitation to know MORE,and the only way to know more here is to seek him more,I'd advise you go on a fast to know what was said in your dream
And I don't think you should take this your dream lightly either,cause I believe it's an invitation to walk deeper with God

shadeyinka:
Okay and thanks.
I shall send something to you but not now cause....but lol let you know when I have a little.

Shalom

charly20:
My dictionary defines love as
[i]"Affectionate, benevolent concern or care for other people or beings, and for their well-being."
[/i]
To which I have no definition of my own to add.

If you treat others right, you sure will be treated right.
If you treat others wrongly, you can't expect to be treated right.

I want to keep it as simple as this.

charly20:
My dictionary defines love as
[i]"Affectionate, benevolent concern or care for other people or beings, and for their well-being."
[/i]
To which I have no definition of my own to add.

If you treat others right, you sure will be treated right.
If you treat others wrongly, you can't expect to be treated right.

I want to keep it as simple as this.
The person who defines Love as 'an affectionate, benevolence care for someone, does not know what love is. He inadvertantly misunderstood love to only be positive.
But, love is not positive only. There's negative love. That's why I asked you what love is.

You mentioned ' affection, benevolence and care'. These are all fruits produced by positive Love. They are not Love.
Love is an energy which exudes from a man and drives that man to act in a certain way; Good or bad.

Let me explain, just like the life of the sun is in its heat, so also the life of everyman is in his love . Without heat, the sun will just be light, but won't give heat which preserves lives.
Without love, a man dies.
You are given to what you love, good or bad. And, whatever you give into, drives you.

Let me give an example of a negative love which has no affection, benevolence or care in it.
Greed: Greed is the heat (the propeller) of the love for money. Greed propels a man to want more, go for more, get more, steal more, even kill to get more.
A greedy man loves money and getting more of it makes him alive.

A vengeful man loves malice, slander and is very unforgiving. He takes pleasure when he sees others suffer. This individual has anger and that anger drives him to inflict pain on others. Guess his love... Pain.

How can a man who steals from others, denies others their due, enjoys to see people tortured and afflicted with pain be affectionate, benevolent and caring towards other humans?

So, my definition of Love is, anything which is able to move you to do something, or drives you towards a particular direction. Anything that lights you up and gingers you to take any action good or bad.
Love is not the action, love is what makes you take the action.

For God so Loves the world (Sinners), He was propelled, moved, driven to give his only son for man to be rescued from eternal death.
This is an act of love.
And let me add again, that 'the token of a Love is a gift.. And Love is a gift given to those who are undeserving and don't have the capacity to give back.
There's nothing in man to move God to sacrifice his son, but he did anyways.

When you see a man or woman in love, you will get angry at the way they goes about what they do, why? because they are giving to those who are undeserving of their love.

You said all the religions preaches love for humans, so pls mention to me what the gods of these other religions gave in sacrifice to express their love for those that worship them.
Allah. What did he give ?
All the Hindu gods.
Buddha.
'All the African gods, Norse gods. Greek gods, Egyptian gods. Mayan gods, Babylonian gods. ALL OF THEM

rhektor:
Amen, thank you very much


I thank God for your life

charly20:
I think you've searched for reason the same way I am searching.

I understand that every religion is true to it's adherents and false to "outsiders". That means everyone is a pagan and everyone serves the "true God".

But what they all have in common is acknowledgement of a supreme being who is responsible for all of creation.

This is why I do not view the world through the lens of religion but by basic fundamental laws governing the universe which All these "gods" agree to Love of your fellow human and that's the only thing that makes sense.

The universe I believe is guided by basic laws; "what you sow is what you reap", "Do to others what you want done to you" and so many like quotes.

Our minds are caged a bit too tight by the concept of religion as we know it and I think life might be simpler if it is devoid of religious sentiments because religious belief is only cultural.

One love!

Myer:
How can you conclude that someone's research is flawed just because you disagree with his conclusion?

Your own personal research at first led you to Islam before you realised it was flawed. Then it led you to JW which other Christians will likewise tell you is flawed.

So everyone do their research. If theres truly a Truth to be reached, we'll eventually get there.

But what constitutes the Truth?
[b]1. It's infallible.
2. It's testable and replicable.
3. It cannot be denied when [/b]confronted/encountered.

MaxInDHouse:
I never wanted to chat with you so if you're always criticizing the mouthpiece of my own God it simply means our Gods aren't the same. But you insisting that you're a worshiper of my own God yet criticizing His mouthpiece (GB) simply means you're an INSANE, AṢIÈRÈ, ASÍWÍN
The only way you can bail yourself out of this tag is by telling yourself the truth, you can't continue criticizing my God's mouthpiece then say you're a worshiper of my God.
Quote anything in the Bible as long as it involves you my answer will ever remain NO unless you BOW to whatever the GB says otherwise continue quoting the Bible from now till tomorrow my answer remains that you and i can never be worshipers of the same God!

MaxInDHouse:
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Chai see Satan's handiworks o!

The topic of discussion on this thread:

"Could This Be True About Religion?"

The guy is trying to know what people claiming worshipers of God has upstairs (in their brains) about God, and all you can do on the thread is about Watchtower!
Never mind keep throwing what you had away some will collect it and add to their treasures! Matthew 25:29

The last time i told you that you're totally empty there's nothing in your brains apart from what JWs impacted in your life. You said you wanted to preach your Jesus to me.
Now that the opportunity is opened for you to preach what you know about your Jesus you're quoting Watchtower on a thread where the OP really need to know what you've got to say about your God!
What a pity!

So where is the knowledge you've gotten from your so called Jesus? Now that someone truly needs to hear if there's any!



Shame on you and your fake God who has nothing to impact in your head except Politics! Politics!! Politics!!!
Your emptiness is crystal clear to all honest hearted and sincere individuals that you're totally empty without Watchtower!

shadeyinka:
Ill like to see some pictures?
How many children do you have now?
Its a though work o: but the Lord is your strength

shadeyinka:
Ill like to see some pictures?
How many children do you have now?
Its a though work o: but the Lord is your strength

rhektor:
Beautiful response anas09, it's been a while on here. I hope you are doing great

ThinkSmarter:
i don't think the universe has a creator.
Because if u say there's a creator.
It will lead to another question: who created the creator and so on...
I think the universe happened by chance.
But the high intelligent and beauty being demonstrated by various plants and animal species baffles me.
The beauty of the morning sun, rain after days of dry weather, moon shining by the night, the complexity and brutality of the foodweb\foodchain.
In short, the creation is so amazing for an intelligent human to conclude that a genius/geniuses are behind them.
I don't blame people that believe that there is an intelligent creator.
But having a mental construct of a old man-like figure with grey hair living in space is idolatery.
God=nature=natural forces

ThinkSmarter:
The beauty of the morning sun, rain after days of dry weather, moon shining by the night, the complexity and brutality of the foodweb\foodchain.
In short, the creation is so amazing for an intelligent human to conclude that a genius/geniuses are behind them.

ThinkSmarter:
I don't blame people that believe that there is an intelligent creator.
But having a mental construct of a old man-like figure with grey hair living in space is idolatery.

ThinkSmarter:
i don't think the universe has a creator.
Because if u say there's a creator.
It will lead to another question: who created the creator and so on...
I think the universe happened by chance.

shadeyinka:
Happy new year my sister!
...in this same digital world?

danielous:
I expected @Dtruthspeaker to counter you reasonably but na juz show off, nothing to counter with. And even @Anas09 the stage setter, nothing worthy.. tueh!

ThinkSmarter:
Come and view something you can counter on this thread

ThinkSmarter:
WHY I COME TO LIKE SCIENCE BUT DETEST RELIGION.
I grew up in a rural settings where African traditional religion is practiced by many while some practiced Christianity and some both.
I earlier thought and assumed Christian Religion as the best religion.
And the Bible God to be really the Supreme God, the creator of all things.
Of a truth, Christian religion tried in inculcating good moral conducts among the faithfuls.
From Sunday school, to School Assembly Ground, to moral instructions to Church sermons to house to house preaching etc.
But after growing up and learning to read and understand on my own.
I took solemn in reading the Bible and upon doing that I stumbled upon some Bible passages that are seldomly read in the church because there are thought provoking.
This increased my curiosity and my search for the truth.
I started searching for the Quran until I got hold of one written in both Arabic and English language.
I downloaded and red so many articles And publications about the Bible, the Abrahamic religions etc.
I then realized that Religion in its entirety is a Belief system.
I realized that the concept of God the creator only lies within human imaginations.
And in Belief system, u don't have to prove anything within the boundaries of intelligence, rational, critical and logical thoughts.
Faith is Everything
In Religion, faith is of high esteem.
In Religion, u don't need to prove God using #rational #critical #logical and #objective thoughts.
U only got to #Believe through #faith shikena.
As a curious person, I wasn't comfortable with some answers I got from Religious teachers.
Some will misunderstood your curiosity to be an attack on their belief.
Most Religions were built on #superstitions, #mythology, #black magic, #dreams/visions, #personal inspiration/imagination, human invented traditions and customs etc
I personally think, humans evolved consciously, become more intelligent and confused at same time.
We thought, since we are here, animals are here, plants are here.
Something somewhere brought us here.
And we assumed what brought us here to be like an old man, full of wisdom with magical powers living up there in the sky.
Have u wondered why other animals apart from humans don't indulge in religion, this because of their low intelligence.
Our imagination is the cause of all technology and religion.
Technologies are our visible imaginations.
While Religion are our invisible imaginations.
Take a look at this : According to the Bible, pigeons, bulls, rams etc were offered to Yahweh as a sin and burnt offerings.
Imagine the CEO of Toyota demanding a particular brand of Toyota like Toyota 4Runner as a gift or sacrifice from his employees that offending him.
Also, the case of Jesus Christ as God's only begotten son (contradicting the true sons of God earlier recorded in Genesis 6) as an offering to appease God for the redemption of mankind.
This is like President Buhari giving out Yusuf, his only son for Nigerians to kill in order for him to forgive Nigerians for their actions against the President.
These are very illogical statements and should be treated as trash.
OK, let's assume Jesus Christ died so that we all have life and have it in abundance as they do make us to believe.
These assertions raises so many questions like:
Is there no poverty, cancer, kidney diseases,heart diseases, strokes, accidental deaths, natural disaster, killings, low life expectancy, high mother and child mortality rate etc among Christian population?
All these are universal and are not unique to one religion.
To Scientific minds that rose like philosophers, thinkers that broke the societal and cultural norms and threaded the path of logical, critical and rational thoughts in order to arrive at a very objective answer(s) to the cause of things.
Some of them suffered discrimination while many were exiled and killed for simply being rational and logical.
For simply refusing to conform with the superstitious and mythological things.
And here we are in the 21st century, where Science have provided answers to most pressing questions.
Brought cure to many diseases.
Many infants, animals, twins,adult humans, albinos have been killed to appease so many deities in the past just because of human ignorance.
The did all that cuz they assumed some natural phenomenon like earthquakes, volcano, tsunami, hurricanes, draught, epidemic, pandemic, twins, albinism, etc to be as the result of the gods being angry.
Have you wondered why human population have grown so rapidly towards the beginning of 20th century to date?
This is as a result of advancement in medicine.
Science is providing cures for so many diseases and is abating the mortality rate among children 0-5years due to immunization/vaccines.
About 90% of children born are now able to reach reproductive age.
For without Science, many cultures would have been living in abject ignorance and their population subjected to extreme law of natural selection.
Science choose the path of physical observation, theorizing, experimenting, re-experimenting before drawing unbiased conclusions which will be subjected to objective criticisms if the need arises.
Science accept their flaws and gives room for correction.
But religion hates to be corrected or Reformed.
To the fundamentalists and Extremists, it is a word or command of God /Allah, hence no questioning.
When u enquire about the purported heaven, paradise and hell, u will just be told to believe or else u will cast into hell when u dies.
some Religion won't even allow you to die naturally 1st and go to hell.
They will behead you instantly, so that you will go to hell instantly.
A times, I do think, why is it that the God that brought down the tower of Babel in the Bible doesn't bring down the rising towers , the aeroplanes, rockets that are exploring the universe.
Science have demystify so many superstition, mythology made up due to man's ignorance.
Note:If you don't understand Maths, you may not be good in logic and reasoning.
This is why Mathematics is made compulsory for courses like Engineering, Medicine and Surgery, Law, Computer science etc
Science will continue to relegate Religion to the background.
I have also thought why there is no much religious related terrorism in UAE and Saudi Arabia as compared to Yemen, Afghanistan, Syria Nigeria etc.
Then I realized maybe Saudis and Emirates are super rich and have most of the their wards schooling in the Overseas.
And sound and quality education is the best solution to Religion extremism.
Because, it's extremely difficult to brainwash someone with quality education.
Maybe that's why the Saudi Prince is making so many reforms.
For you can't expect the product of the likes of Ivy's, Havard's etc to continue implementing outdated, archaic and irrational beliefs in the name of being conservative.
Sorry to say this : I see some extremely religious people as psychopaths.
I personally think, if you choose to evolve with your brains, choose Science, else be stuck with the medieval philosophy that gave birth to so many mythological beliefs.
The choice is yours.

ThinkSmarter:
U only ended up attacking the questionaire and not the question?
Can't u defend those points raised?

GoodMuyis:
Good day Anas09, it's been a while, but I trust God you are doing well. I just remembered that sometimes ago you were planning something for young people. I don't know how much progress you have made.

What drop into mind was that, there has never been a good time to bring the young people to God than now.