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seankafor:
if all the people in the world, it's Putin's he called empty threats

They don't know why Biden was calling for regime change coup in Russia. The man is outfoxing the whole of the west. It is crazy.

Godx:
Empty threats. His bluff has been called


https://hindustannewshub.com/russia-ukraine-news/italy-and-austria-refused-to-pay-for-russian-gas-in-rubles-the-moscow-times/

https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-scholz-rejects-putins-rubles-for-gas-demand/

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/03/24/poland-refuses-to-pay-for-russian-gas-in-rubles-a77073

LOL. April 1 is the deadline. That is when you know whether a threat is empty or not.

Havertz10:
March 31 2022

A few days ago putin announced that Russia will only sell their gas in rubles, starting March 31, very smart move, it's stupid selling gas in a currency that you cant use, my excitement is that its going to majorly affect america, they need the dollar to maintain it's relevance globally or their economy will crumble, Russia's decision will change the game completely, unlike Gaddafi or Saddam, Putin has nuclear weapons

Evidence of it's effects are already obvious, weeks ago, 1 usd almost 140 ruble after sanctions, today its 1 usd = 96 ruble


Given that most European countries are dependent on Russian exports, they will have to void their own sanctions to prevent uprising in their countries, irony is that sanctions were placed on Russia to instigate uprisings

it's baffling that European policy makers didn't see this coming and even have the gall to talk about contract violations, deluded fools

Not just America, Germany is essentially crippled as they are heavily reliant on Russian gas.

Havertz10:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isib_uZpkGI

YouTube is actively hiding this video

is this "Ukraine on Fire"? I didn't click the link but I am hazarding a guess since I know YouTube deleted the video as soon as this "war" began.

Amoto94:
Chelsea intend to join the pursuit of Juventus star Paulo Dybala once the takeover has been resolved.

{90min}

Atletico Madrid is where he is heading.

Which grocery store will anyone go to and compare prices with what they were from say 3 months ago to see 7.9% inflation? But you know, if MSNBC, CNN, BBC and co say inflation in the US is 7.9% they are right and can never tell lies because they have never done so before. Remember all those weapons of mass destruction we found in Iraq, me neither?

User09:
Fair points all through. I do have my theories but.....

Again, I don't understand how people can go on a wrangle here when the other party has shown over and over to never concede to superior arguments

I completely get you but you know sometimes we just have to entertain it for shits and giggles.

seankafor:
you go just open mouth waaaaaa, even the ones you know and the ones you don't know, you will be forming guru cum analyst..

Rules to live by in reading some posts here. Once you see "Biological weapons" just stop reading. "Sanctions are working". Stop reading. "Western governments are more powerful..." stop reading. It is all nonsense.

2 weeks ago, we saw Victoria Nuland confess that it was the US infact that had access to Biological weapons in cahoots with Ukraine and how concerned she was that Russia could gain access to those weapons to use them. The question any critical thinker would ask is, what did the US need those bioweapons for in the first place if not to use them? But you can see how the propaganda has worked on some people. Russia is now accused of trying to use "Biological weapons" that US had as if the bioweapons will not affect the same Russia considering the border they share with Ukraine.

Then, "sanctions are working". This one is funny if not stupid. In the US here ( ) President Biden just told people to expect food shortages because of Putin. Just the same way he began chorusing "Putin Price Hike" for gas prices and inflation even though he had blamed the pandemic for the very same inflation from May 2021 till January 2022. Now all of a sudden it is Putin that is responsible for his failed policies. Here is what is funny though: Americans are being told to suffer hardship and shortages yet sanctions were levied on Russians. Think of it, someone's father is telling them he punished the neighbors but his children will bear the brunt and suffer hunger at home. Yet "sanctions are working". I have never read such stupidity in my life.

Western governments are....Al Assad of Syria recently visited UAE and has been walking with a swagger even when Obama and the west had sworn to oust him. I mean, the biggest boys in the west came together to end Assad's reign in Syria and till date the man is still there. Can you guess why? It is because Vladimir Putin stood by him. That is how powerful Russia is. Even Boris Johnson admitted recently that there is no denying that Russia is a super power. But on Nairaland Russia is some pinchomic nation with a mad dictator as ruler. I am always stunned by the mass formation psychosis that propaganda can do to people.

Russians are suffering hits and deaths yet no videos to prove it in this techno age? Just stage managed videos, crisis actors, or even worse, old videos and footage from many years ago and see educated fathers swallowing the whole propaganda hook line and sinker. But no surprises. After the dust is settled and there is no Russian cyber attack or world War 3 as predicted, Russia will do exactly what they did in Georgia in 08 and Crimea in 14. The rest of the feckless west will move on like they did in the past knowing they just deceived another nation into sacrificing her people for a senseless war.

Don't take me seriously though, I may just be spreading Russian disinformation like the Hunter Biden's laptop saga...oh wait! Or maybe I am anti-west even though I may be more American than others who naturalized to become one. Huhuhuhu

Ibime:
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yes, that same "agency" does the same thing concerning biological pathogens in every nation that it is in. Meaning, whatever they are doing in Ukraine they are probably doing in Russia otherwise that will make sense why they will now rather "destroy the one they have in Ukraine" than let the Russians have it.

Ibime:
I said the same Agency helping Ukraine also helped Russia with the set-up, safety and decommissioning of their own labs. I am responsible for what I write, not what you understand.

Completely made up nonsense again.

Meanwhile, the "agency" said they help many nations using a network of 336 labs to "...help secure, store and investigate dangerous biological pathogens..."

But someone now wants to claim one lab could have weaponizable pathogens and another lab won't have shingbain yet that is what it is set up to do.

Buahahaha

Ibime:
Ok, another conspiracy mindset. EU and WHO is helping USA create biological weapons for Ukraine. You are right.

The same WHO that is a China stooge according to your mindset, remember?

Immediately after saying "I am responsible for what I write". The irony.

Ibime:
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I will refer you to my very post on this matter. You seem to have a problem with labs having pathogens. If you don't want to take drugs next time you are sick, we can all agree there is no need to study pathogens to produce treatments. That's all you have been arguing since, so let's end it there. You are not a microbiologist. Let them them do their work under the guidance of the BTRP, the EU and the WHO which are institutions the world has provided for our safety, and stop moonlighting as a microbiologist. There is a lab opposite my workplace housing these things, don't [/s]get ahead of yourself and make it what it's not. If US was doing illegal activity there, they would have shut it down since Ukraine became unstable and they won't have EU and WHO overseeing it. And you won't have Russian Microbiologist Professor of Moscow University calling the allegations bullshit.

Also, please stop with this nonsense about WHO and EU. It is like saying Joe Biden is not guilty, if you doubt me ask his son, Hunter.

Ibime:
I will refer you to my very post on this matter. You seem to have a problem with labs having pathogens. If you don't want to take drugs next time you are sick, we can all agree there is no need to study pathogens to produce drugs. That's all you have been arguing since, so let's end it there. You are not a microbiologist. Let them them do their work under the guidance of the BTRP, the EU and the WHO which are institutions the world has provided for our safety, and stop moonlighting as a microbiologist. There is a lab opposite my workplace housing these things, don't get ahead of yourself and make it what it's not.

yenyenyen. Nuland said "...we are concerned..."...these [particular dangerous biological pathogens] should not fall into the hands of Russians because they will bioweaponize them.

Remember when you claimed the same facility was in Russia? So her concern is unwarranted if what you are saying is true because the Russians already have it...except they don't.

Skimpledawg:
I just dey follow Una gists since and as I see NSPPD, I no fit hol my laugher again

lol

Ibime:
I want buy na, since you claim they have $5bln worth of weapons, the thing must have a price on an open market somewhere. Abeg how much for 1 vial of anthrax?

So you went round and round just to subtly concede that dangerous biological pathogens can be weaponized and they are called biological weapons in that case?

Ibime:
$15m?

Now you are coming back to the real world.

I thought you just said they stockpiled $5bln worth of biological weapons in Ukraine.

Typical Conspiracy olodo, pointing at billions at reason for Conspiracy.

The $15m is more like it cos they built each lab for under $2m. You have been shouting that they have been spending billions on biological weapons, that it cannot be for mere lab research.

This is what you spend on a lab, not a weapons programme. It is all published on their website. Their whole worldwide operations budget per year is under $200m both home and abroad. Olodo shouting $5bln weapons conspiracy in Ukraine alone.

I won't even bore you with the mathematics as you are yet to see what is clearly in front of you neither will I laugh at you @ your use of biological weapons.

You mean, the USA will rather destroy something that is basically irrelevant to them but not something valued at $85b worth of equipment for war? That should not be decommissioned, the terrorist Talibans can have it?

Yet that "something" is just a routinely studied biological pathogen?

Ibime:
Also tell me which market I can buy Biological weapons and how much do they price it. Let's be autistic.

Hunter don catch bushmeat.

Mad man of Obi Akpor. You don finally accept say dangerous biological pathogens are biological weapons?

NSPPD.

Ibime:
You are talking rubbish. Go and find out the yearly budget for their worldwide operations and come back and tell me how much they spend in Ukraine. Typical conspiracist mindset

I come with receipts.

https://twitter.com/NickFondacaro/status/1501762048677625866?t=20l4zo6QYGq-bXLO6vn42A&s=19

The US made it clear that destroying materials worth this chum change is better than gifting the freaking Talibans $85b worth of war paraphernalia Ibime.

I don grab you for brokos.

Ibime:
You keep repeating your lies along your conspiracy lines of reason. Please give us the yearly budget of the BTRP, then tell us how much they spent in Ukraine specifically out of the 30 countries they operate in. You are quoting rubbish

Typical Conspiracy olodo, mentioning billions upandan as basis for his belief as most conspiracist do.

The only figure you should worry about is the N20k debt you ran away from

Did they not say here that they have been helping to store dangerous biological pathogens since the dissolution of the old soviet union?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9cCqChMLs

Did Jennifer Griffin not say the agreement was signed 2005? So can you multiply how much US gives Ukraine per year by 17 to get a rough estimate?

Let me expose how slow you are a little further. Let us say the Ukraine figure is not up to $5b, so the US will destroy something not even up to $5b rather than let Russia get it, but will allow the Talibans take war...war machinery worth $85b without flinching and that "something" is just routinely studied biological pathogens?

Diarisgodooooh.

popizaino:



Havertz.10 is on this table, was calling news sources from CNN as western propaganda,only to be seen bringing screenshot from New York times to buttress his point.

If he uses the sources the people he is arguing with, condone, they cannot respond with the regular fallacy of dismissing an argument because of the source. For e.g, if I say the secretary of state of political affairs of the United States said Russia should be prevented from gaining access to bio materials, someone arguing pro- USA is not allowed to respond by saying they won't take it because of the source.

Meanwhile, on this thread, someone who is 'Pro-USA' quoted Russia to 'debunk' the statement of a more 'Pro-USA' woman than him. Is it not ment?

Unlimited22:
Lmao
Schizo? The same person complaining about autism?

I did not complain about autism oh. I only quipped that someone with an established history of mental issues should not be the first to use that to speculate concerning someone else.

I have tried to be civil with Ibime, but he wants to play dirty and I am in the mood.

Ibime:
Biological Weapons are illegal. Having aircrafts is not. Taliban overrun of Afghanistan was swift, while US has known Ukraine is at risk of invasion since 2014, they won't constitute an illegal act that will be immediately discovered by the Russians, and also bring in the EU and WHO to provide oversight on the illegal act.

These are subtle clues you leave right-thinking people to draw the correct conclusion, but not someone with autism who can't put two and two together.

Taliban overrun of Afghanistan was swift? So the US did not know the Taliban will act swiftly yet Lt. Colonel Scheller knew it? Yet the joint chiefs knew it, told Biden and he disregarded it and insisted the US military disembarked from Afghanistan without decommissioning those equipment? Chai

Ibime, they won't constitute an illegal act because of Russia? You mean they will rather destroy bioresearch materials they have been storing using upward of 5 billion dollars because of the same Russia but will let the Talibans get $85 billion of war machinery for free?

Yet the bioresearch materials are just 'routinely studied pathogens'?

Who swear for you? Who do you this kind juju? Your village people are wicked.

Actman05:
Android22 can you give details on the Haaland to city deal.

Even though some of our tier 1 journalists have alluded to this, I am not believing it so I am not even reading it. I feel this is from Haaland's team and they are doing this to give Madrid FU for preferring Mbappé.

Ibime:
Couldn't care who that offends, when you are unable to bring in new information that invalidates your fixed point of argument and still hammer on the same point, that is autism. When your whole point has been that US denied existence of the labs and you found they did not. Then argue that the fact they want the pathogens destroyed is evidence of weapons, then find out WHO is involved in the project and also wants the pathogens destroyed. And you still insists it's weapons, then you are autistic. Anyone who knows Elruditor will know his autistic traits of argument.

It is not weapons but Russia should by all means not have it.
The same thing you said Russia already had.

When I see a man who argues with himself and makes up stuff, I see a man with mental problems. You surely can relate Ibime, abi?

Ibime:
More autism. I said US will not leave biological weapons in an unstable country at risk of invasion, not pathogens which are routinely studied in many labs around the world.

You clearly don't know the difference between biological research and weaponisation. According to your obtuse logic, every lab containing pathogens in the world is creating weapons. Stick to what you know Elruditor.

But the US left $85B worth of aircrafts, fighter jets, ammunition, Armor tanks in Afghanistan which was immediately confiscated by the Taliban. But I digress.

'Pathogens which are routinely studied' is that what Nuland insists should be prevented from getting to the Russian forces?

You know, the same ones Russia already has?

Even Will Smith won't save you from this entanglement, schizo.

Unlimited22:
Chief your first statement is out of order. Autism shouldn't be used as an insult boss.

lol some people will set their face on fire just to piss off their eye brow.

Ibime:
You are autistic. Point where I said every lab studies the same pathogens. Firstly, it is soldiers advancing on the labs, not fücking Einstein. That alone is enough reason to destroy the pathogens which are highly controlled substances. Secondly, to prevent propaganda which their own microbiologists have debunked, thirdly to preserve intellectual property which can be misused for nefarious activities, and fourthly to prevent a false flag attack. Stick to what you know and stop moonlighting as a conspiracy microbiologist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9cCqChMLs

That is what the USA embassy in Kyiv said. They use those facilities to "store dangerous biological pathogens..."

The same schizo was just arguing that the US was not stupid to leave anything like that in a region that had looming invasion.

Now he is accepting that the materials are "controlled" substances lol

Ibims ma niccur, are you tryina say scientists will destroy their material to preserve its intellectual property?

If they have intellectual property rights Ibims it means the constituted authorities already know that that scientist is the "owner" of that material or idea so it makes no sense for anyone to steal it. And you were calling me doofus and telling me to stick to what I know?

Ibime:
You are autistic. WHO said exactly the same thing Nuland said, those pathogens must be destroyed and not fall into Russian hands, so along your line of reasoning, WHO who were also involved in the labs must have been developing biological weapons with the Ukrainians.

Your whole argument boils to one simple fact, labs contain pathogens. It's how diseases are studied and how your medicines are created.

And those same labs are in Russia. And those same pathogens are already in Russia - according to you, remember? So explain (without abusive words) why Russia has to be prevented from getting hold of the same pathogens they already have?

Don't forget, WHO/US want Ukraine to destroy those dangerous pathogens - the same ones they had been storing since the dissolution of the old soviet union using billions of dollars. Bwahahahahaha

izzou:
[color=royalblue]It's not as if these sanctions are deterring Putin.

In few weeks, Kyiv would be captured and the Akpororo of a president would be tied up.

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Biden has admitted this wholeheartedly. He said he knows the sanctions will not deter Putin so the question people should ask is then why do it? It is only going to affect the average Russian. The more you look...

Ibime:
You've been repeating your foolish line of reasoning since yesterday. Who will want their research to fall into hands of a hostile state who could use it for nefarious activities or propaganda? Already they are using for propaganda for eediots like you, which their own scientists are debunking.

WHO said they worked with the Labs and asked Ukraine to destroy all pathogens before the Russians get there. I guess WHO a United Nations Agency were developing weapons for Ukraine. When you have a mental imbalance, you will ignore all evidence and focus on your one element of conspiracy despite all evidence to contrary. Keep your mental illness to yourself and don't quote me again.

The same research facility in 336 labs including Russia? Make it make sense.

WHO said, EU said. All are more credit worthy than the secretary of state on political affairs in the US? Same woman with a track record in Ukraine?

Why do you keep telling me your last name? @ highlighted.

Havertz10:
she further said it that if there is an outbreak in the nearest future that it's the Russians that are behind it


Suddenly Russia has biological weapons

Someone is trying to provide exculpatory evidence for the US and they are quoting Jennifer Griffin. Same woman who swore for weeks that an ISIS-K leader was killed and when she was pressed she insisted she had all the facts. Only to concede later that they killed an innocent family of 10 including 7 children.

Ibime:
Keep your conspiracy drinking mental illness to yourself and don't quote me on any matter again, as I advised you before. It would take the most stupid or mentally imbalanced individual to buy the lie that Ukraine is trying to spread Coronavirus to Russia via animals, as if it won't also infect Ukraine in a matter of days. The Russians aren't even trying at this stage, just appealing to the stupidity of people like you. Kindly avoid me. A debtor should not speak.

You are not making any sense today, schizo. So a Russian biologist said Putin was lying?

Abeg, anybody wey no get mental problems should tell me where I mentioned Putin? Or Ukraine spreading Coronavirus to Russia?

I am quoting Victoria Nuland for goodness sake. An American lady and she is the one that testified under oath that whatever biological facility in Ukraine should be prevented from getting into the hands of the Russian forces. That is what she said.

You have now implied that Nuland does not know what she is talking about under oath. But some "Russian" biologist knows better. And I am the one with mental imbalance?

This part always gets me: how the US already had that same facility in Russia but somehow you are online defending how that same thing in Russia should be prevented from getting into the hands of Russian forces. Buahahahaha