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hucienda:
This topic is funny.

The OP - Angel196 - starts with the premise that she couldn't care less about division of the country but several posts later, she infact states she's in support of the country being together.

Is that not confusion?

One doesn't need a soothsayer to tell one the results a referendum would wrought were it to hold or which of the different regions would fare better or worse in case of a possible division.

All these kinda threads springing here and there on this board are becoming puerile.

I didn't point any benefit of being together. I said 'with or without them'. I was only pointing out some of the errors in their thought.

Why should I care if they stay or not? They don't feed or clothe me, neither do I depend on them for anything. Why will try to stop them?

I could care less seriously. In fact I think there will be more added advantages.

Everyone is free to make is choice, but that same person should remember their choices would be met with consequences.

successmatters:
Corruption can never be eradicated from Nigeria if Rotimi Iscariot is still a serving minister in this country. You have the embodiment of corruption sitting all around the corrupt presidio at FEC meetings and still think anyone can fight corruption.

All na joke abeg.

If that's what you feel. I seriously hope you don't all get a 'we told you so' in the future.

How did Ghana get rid of the people destroying them? If they made a rule that any leader guilty of corruption be killed just like China's, we the same people fighting for a better country would castigate them of making harsh laws.

Do you think at this stage corruption would be exempted from any new country any part of Nigeria decides to create? That would be naivety. But all the best to anyone who wants to create its own country.

unclejb2:
After saying that you care less if Biafra divides, you turn around to give all types of frivolous reasons supported by another post on why Biafra will not succeed. Pls drink your hypocrisy from your toilet cistern. Biafra has turned to your greatest nightmare and it will soon become a "daymare"

I said I could care less if Nigeria divides. And I don't. If they like they should create a Biafra or any other country. All I know is that Nigeria still has the possibility of being great.

I was only pointing out that even some Igbo's are not in support of a new country. I'm not being a hypocrite, I don't really care if there is a Biafra or not.

jjjjj2017:
Im less concerned about whom you vote for, stealing/corruption starts since 1960.

Just quote the place I said it didn't. Corruption started way before our independence.

jjjjj2017:
Northerner killed a pastor wife in kaduna & abuja, the killers now walks around the country as a free.
Northerner kidnapped & impregnate Ese Oruru but the culprist is now a free man.
Yoruba & Northerner clashed in Ile-Ife, 21 Yoruba men including a monarch were arrested while 0 northerner were arrested.
Look, the injustice in the land is unbearable all in the name of one Nigeria.

Do you have something against the northerners?

Is it only northerners that have been killing and fighting? Did you read about Modakeke and IFE's war? Aren't they both Yoruba's? Why did they fight? Don't delude yourself that being the same tribe will stop anything. It wouldn't cause people will just find another reason to create favoritism.

jjjjj2017:
Kindly share me links where Buhari takes an action to curb the killings.
Please, dont mention GEJ name here because he's not part of the discussion here.
I am a Yoruba man & can tell you authoritatively that corruption rose to the highest during OBJ 1999 regime.

I am also a Yoruba lady and I'm not being sentimental. You ask me not to mention his regime, why not? That was a problem too that needed attention and nothing was done about it. In fact I lost some of my friends and classmates then. I almost lost my life and my family's in that violence. Do you expect me to blame the President then that he was favouring one tribe when none was actually his?

I never claimed a particular regime was perfect but don't make assumptions just because he's a Fulani.
There are many other tribes killing each other that we might not even know of. Before Buhari's regime we've been hearing of Fulani herdsmen, why wasn't anything done about it then?

jjjjj2017:
you should cover your face with your hands because you are such a big liar.

When will Buhari return our PTF money that he stole?

When will he probe Buratai despite the fact that there's enough evidence?

Amaechi stile Rivers state money all in the name of monorail project that he never completed 10% but now a minister under Buhari

For your information, there's nothing like improvement in electricity supply because its not a secret. Just yesterday, dome Benin residents blocked road to protest poor electricity supply or do you want to tell me that edo state is not part of Nigeria?

What's the inflation rate under Buhari compared to the past administration?

Why do Nigeria economy goes into recession under Buhari administration in the 80s & still the same during his current adminstration?

You asked me a question and I answered. I have no reason to lie. I don't favor parties blindly. If Buhari stole, I haven't seen any proofs yet.

I said the electricity in my area is better than it was did you ask what area it was before you deemed it a lie?

Inflation is higher? Why shouldn't it be? Don't you know of the money we've lost in the past administrations? Did you think it wouldn't affect our economy?

Let me tell you something, my whole family voted for Goodluck in 2011 despite our tribe and religion, didn't Buhari contest against him then? Do you think I'm being sentimental? I'm not being sentimental at all. I loved Good luck and voted for him cause I felt he was better than Buhari, in 2011 but changed my mind in 2015 cause of the way he led his administration. I always strive to be object and judge people base on their efforts not tribe and religion!

jjjjj2017:
You get it wrong at some point, corruption doesn't stop at only stealing. Favouritism/partiality is part of corruption.
Murderous Fulani herdsmen haveBenue farmers & women have been killed times without number yet no arrest has been made so far just because the their life patron & kinsman is the president of this country.
Do you think that Nigerians can just go to Cameron & started killing camerounian anyhow without resistance? The senseless killings from those murderous herdsmen will be resisted if we are not one Nigerian because the security outfit of a country under which Benue stare fall will definitely resist the madness from those murderous herdsmen

Unless we split, common man will continue to be oppressed & suffer. The killings of other tribe by Fulani starts from the days of Tafawa Balewa(Fulani man) & he supported the killings just as we are witnessing under the present administration.

Seriously? So in other words Buhari is allowing killings just because it's done by his kinsmen? Really? I grew up in the north and this issue stated way before Buhari's administration. I left the north during Goodluck's regime because of none stop violence and killings between two tribes, none of which was Good luck's tribe. What can you say about that?

deedeedee1:
Madam, we cant kill corruption in nigeria. Why? Because we live in a indigenous ethnically diverse country. Everybody in nigeria is a tribalist(mostly in terms of interest). We all will defend our tribesmen no matter how bad they are. Now let me give you an example: I am yoruba but imagine if osinbajo is the president of the country and he is charged with corruption, whereby he will have to resign from his positon or get impeached for the vp to take over. Now imagine if such vp to take place is not yoruba, will i support the impeachment of osinbajo even though there are evidence that he is corrupt? The answer is no!!! I definately wont!! Why? Because he is yoruba and i am also yoruba. Now if yoruba had their own country would osinbajo have the gods to steal money? Now this is why monoethnic countries have very little corruption. That is how igbo country will also look like.

I tell you it will still happen. Cause about from tribalism there is religious favoritism. If you feel being made a single tribe is what can make a country great then so be it. Some single tribe state are being governed by a person of that tribe, but he still embezzles and goes scot free.

jjjjj2017:
mention just one thing we've gained from Buhari led adminstration after 2years of his FG led administration.

Well the electricity in my area is more stable for one. And I've had the satisfaction of seeing some of our corrupt leaders exposed.

modik:
I guess you did not understand the question. What exactly has been working in Nigeria since independence?

Dissuade your mind from this administration so we can have an objective appraisal of an entity called Nigeria.

It's not about the administration but about their own little effort in solving our main problem. Have you ever heard of so many money stolen or recovered in Nigeria?

The way in moving a country forward is not looking for the good aspects of it but looking for and solving those problems that is taking it backwards. That's what Ghanaians did and I guess it's one of the reasons their economy is looking better than ours.

deedeedee1:
Nigeria will be great. Blah! Blah!blah! Your fathers once said it. Now you are saying it. That means your children will also say it. Dont you guys get tired?
You keep doing same thing and expecting a different result. Nigeria was created by the British. Funny enough, the same British people are doing things in sensible ways by allowing referendum. Shouldn't you be like them.

Well first of all, Nigerian never had slaves to help them build their country.

You think forming a new country would make it easier? How many years do you think its gonna take before its gonna get easier?

Was Nigeria created or colonized or created by the British? Our main problems are those who having been misleading and misusing our funds. Look at the story of Ghana, why did they actually start becoming developed? By creating new country or by getting rid of the main problem?

Among all tribes corruption exists so don't think you'll overcome this difficulty without solving the main problem causing it. Again I don't care if Nigeria choose to separate or not. All I know is that what remains of it will succeed.

deedeedee1:
You cant eradicate curruption just like that. You need a system to drive patriotism in people. Only a right sytem can kill corruption.

Yes it isn't that easy, thank goodness you know that too. Have we ever really fought to eradicate corruption in the past before? We never cared enough to because we probably feel it didn't matter to our development. But the the truth is, it did and it does.

And Biafra wouldn't be free from corruption either cause it exists in their part too. Do you really think building a new country is easier than trying to fix the current one? Then I must say, you have a very difficult task ahead of you, which might even be harder than making Nigeria great.

izombie:
Op if you can tell me one thing in this present day nigeria that is working the way it should, i will support one nigeria. I'm waiting for your reply

Well for one they are trying really hard to fight the corruption which I'm sure everyone knows is the reason we are in this situation today instead of lying about corruption not being in Nigeria. If we can eradicate corruption from Nigeria completely then the toughest part of developing Nigeria is solved.

One of the most popularly discussed topics on the Nigerian social media platform today is it's possible division. I hear it been discussed left and right and to be honest I'm sick and tired of it.

Should Biafra be allowed free reign as another country?

My opinion? I couldn't care less. I remain indifferent to these arguments. And I honestly don't know why they are stopping them. If they are so desperate to have their own country fine. Everyone is free to choose but no one is free from the consequences of their actions. There are always consequences from every action whether good or bad.

All I know is that, with or without them, Nigeria can and will still be great. In short there would be less pressure on resources and make it easier for Nigeria to get rid of corruption and monitor the country better.

No offence but you claim you want your own country and all yet you are found everywhere in Nigeria.

I read a post from an Igbo man today who said a lot of enlightening things about Biafra and how he didn't support the idea of it.https://www.nairaland.com/3753648/why-think-biafra-may-not
. But one thing with people is that they find it hard to see and accept the truth even if it drops from the sky and hits them on the face.

Nigeria in this critical stage have more important things to face than dividing their time and resources on things like this. If they want it so bad let them go and try their luck in building a country and see how 'easy' it is.

I pray for Nigeria and know there's hope for it.

emmaitive:
my friend shot d crap, wht ur problem, dnt u have knowledge to know which side of d country dt is draging us behind..if u mst know?is he not thesame buhari who said abacha did not steal any money...who stole nigeria dry than the parasitic northern nigeria with the help of dea western friend called iyoruba and their evil islamic jihadist mind of killin and drinking blood...nah today e start...abeg lemme hear word jor...they can deceiv u,buh not me becos u are blind like them as a result of ur so called religion..jst kno dt unless u accept jesus, u and people like u are doomed for eternity..jesus is the only way

Seriously? This is laughable!

Pray tell, which part of the country is dragging us behind?

So Bihari said Abacha didn't steal any money but still probed his administration? You are really full of hate and I won't delude myself into believing you would open your eyes and stop being sentimental. I have experienced a lot to know that life is too short to be unreasonable and sentimental.

Do you think Northern Nigerian is made of Muslims or Hausa and Fulani's alone? Smh!

Which Islamic Jihadists in the north kill and drink blood? Book haram? If you still believe book haram is an Islamic group then you are more than ignorant.
When you receive news of mosques being boomed on a Friday, I'm sure you just scroll and skip it cause you don't care right?

I'm not the one being deceived here cause I'm not blinded by hate and religion. Any sensible person would know what's really going on.

Bihari is an extremist planning on Islamizing Nigeria yet he made a pastor and Christian his deputy. Such stupid logic.

You are just a religious bigot who is full of hate and blinded by sentiments. I never said my religion was superior nor did I ask anyone to convert to my religion so who's oppressing who?

I'm not gonna argue about religion with you cause I'm not even sure you understand the concept of Christianity. If you did I'm sure you won't have such hate in you. Jesus(peace be upon him) never preached hate neither did he oppress other people.

I do believe in Jesus(peace be upon him) and love him, so do I believe in Moses(pease be upon him) John the babtist and the rest of them. If you wanna argue about religion, go on and provide something reasonable.

I have no room in my heart for hatred, hatred is for the evil and cowards.

originalKsp:
I get your point madam. The problem is that most people believe that any story that supports their beliefs is true while any story that goes against their believe is false.

The story has no link to any trusted sources, no pictures, absolutely no proof stated for it.

The op should supply the link to it, or did he just cook up the story?.

My point exactly. A

davtosh:
My broda see How these guys expose their foolishness all the time. I always say it Atheism is gross stupidity.

In their bid to show how smart they are they entertain us with stupidity.

How could they give us a video of the incident when they were not acting Nollywood

Not all house has close circuit also why must he need a video to believe.

So if the video was posted the guy would have believed

He should have asked his mum for the video of where his dad had fun that got his mum pregnant to believe he truely belongs to his dad

ATHEISTS I SALUTE UNA

If you were referring to me in this comment, then I'm sorry to disappoint you. I am not an ATHEIST. I do believe in God and Miracles but I'm just not gullible enough to believe every cook and bull stories.

Him! As if you'd have easily believed a Muslim if he'd said his wife gave birth to a baby holding a Quran without any proofs.

farem:
I wanted to ignore you enjoy you entirely but that could a disservice to you and may leave you in this your self-deluded condition.

Are you asking for the photos or video of those hiding from fiery sword or islamists?

Are you sure you wrote this piece above by yourself? I am not convinced someone didn't do it for you. Unless and except you give me photo and video proofs!

Are you saying those who may have been stupefied by the appearance of lions (which was never on their imagination) to take videos.

It would have been better if you say you don't believe in miracles do as to know how best to help you.

I wanted to ignore you enjoy you entirely but that could a disservice to you and may leave you in this your self-deluded condition.

Are you asking for the photos or video of those hiding from fiery sword or islamists?

Are you sure you wrote this piece above by yourself? I am not convinced someone didn't do it for you. Unless and except you give me photo and video proofs!

Are you saying those who may have been stupefied by the appearance of lions (which was never on their imagination) to take videos.

It would have been better if you say you don't believe in miracles do as to know how best to help you.

Very funny, you should have ignored me then if you couldn't reason with my logics.

Aren't you in the social media where people make so many claims that in actual facts are false? Do you expect everyone to believe everything they hear without proofs?
Had it been a 'miracle' from another faith, would you have believed it so easily?
I do believe in miracles but not claims without any proof to back it up. By proofs I don't necessarily mean photos alone. What about witnesses? What town did it happen in, some of the citizens should have witnessed it. Were the remains of those people or blood found? Why wasn't it shown as evidence?

I don't have to prove I am the one writing this comments cause I don't need anyone to believe it, just know someone is doing the typing. In order to be believed, you need to back your claims with things that make it believe able.

walezy85:
there is nothing God no fit do oh[right][/right]

I know.
So I can just come out and tell a cooked up story with no proofs? Are you gonna believe it if it was an Islamic miracle?

emmaitive:
and dt forces happened to be buhari and his islamic north and islamic west...becos darkness can never be light

Really? Has hijab been made compulsory in all states and schools yet?
Are Muslims being given discounts in all shopping malls and none to Christians yet?
Are the police now arresting people who don't go to mosque to pray?
Are Muslims being given free goods and money and none to Christians?

Don't we all live under the same circumstances and pay the same amount for goods and services?
I don't know CRK has been cancelled, maybe my mates in school who I thought were studying it were actually studying IRK disguised as CRK? Is that it?
Why are you people so ignorant and blind? Was it Muslims who have been embezzling, stealing and burying millions of dollars which belongs to the country?
Haven't you been in Nigeria while all these were happening or didn't you read about it all? Have you been deluding yourself into believing that all those stolen money wouldn't affect our economy?

The person whom you quote his post only prayed for the destruction of the forces against Nigeria. He never mentioned names, why are you taking in personal and putting the blame on Bihari and Muslims? Why are you hateful? Is that what your religion preaches? I'm so disappointed in you, your ignorance and your logics.

farem:
Lion saves Christians as they are being attacked by militants, says pastor
JB Cachila
Published 20 April 2017 | 10:08 PM

In what appears to be a story of Biblical proportions, a pastor secretly ministering in the Middle East claims lions came to rescue him and his group from armed Islamic militants.
Pastor Paul Ciniraj, director of Bibles for Mideast, a Christian ministry that aims to distribute Bibles, preach the Gospel and invite people in the Middle East into God's Kingdom, was reportedly rescued from militants by a group of three lions, WND reported. Pastor Paul detailed his story in the
ministry's website .
"My risen Lord Jesus Christ has saved my life once again," Pastor Paul wrote, "and I praise and thank God for His unspeakable grace!"
According to Pastor Paul, this story began a few weeks ago. About three weeks ago, he had just finished baptizing some people when a group of militants arrived and stoned them.
He was rushed to a hospital after sustaining serious injuries to his skull and was transferred to a specialist hospital. The Islamic militants who stoned him earlier, however, discovered where he was being treated forcing him to leave the hospital and go into hiding.
Pastor Paul was secretly transferred to a house belonging to a Muslim-turned-Christian, Pastor Ayyoob, who lives near a forest area. Pastor Paul stayed there with Pastor Ayyoob's wife, two kids, and 80-year-old mother. Fellow believers secretly visited Pastor Paul there, and they would have prayer services together.
About three weeks later, on Easter Sunday, Pastor Ayyoob was leading the group in a worship service when suddenly a group of militants brandishing weapons and steel bars arrived.
"We had no idea what to do," Pastor Paul said of the group's response.
At that time, Pastor Paul hadn't fully recovered yet, and a pregnant woman had come to join them for the service. Pastor Paul said the whole group lost all their hope, thinking it would be their last day.
However, he says that a lion appeared from the forest and attacked one of the militants. When the other militants tried to attack the beast, two other lions appeared. Terrified, the militants ran away. The lions, however, left Pastor Paul and the group of believers alone.
"Equally astonishing," Pastor Paul went on to explain, "records show no lions are supposed to live in that forest."
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Thank goodness, the story was a claim not proven. No photos, there's nothing to proof this story is nothing more than a claim. Not everyone is dumb enough to believe every story on social media, especially ones with no proofs to back them up. Stop abusing people's intelligence please.

Confirmer:
Unfortunately I don't. I know of a good fashion designer at Saraki's house very close to Unity roundabout. Give that place a try.

Okay thanks, I'll try to get the place.

Confirmer:
There are a whole lots at Taiwo especially the downtown (taiwo isale). But if you really wanna learn the rudiment of fashion designing, I will suggest Gambari.

Please do you have the contacts or anything I could use to make enquiries?

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