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uyisteven:
*****
You think you avoided the Friendzone?... ..
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My brother, you are the Chairman of the friendzone high table..

Lol, more like unremovable president.

Stanley1155:
Pple just dey die anyhow for dat una two family maybe u dey wait make anoda pesin die for her family before u go tell am how u feel,Since na only wen person die u dey show am LOVE

This was so brutal and cruel but got me laughing really hard.

cristianisraeli:
if you can not answer this question i asked you..then let the matter rest..dressing decently no go mean say your boyfriend/huband no go marry another..am not disrespecting you..am just saying..


Uncovered women are viewed as prostitutes and adulterers and the prevailing attitude is that if an uncovered woman is raped she asked for it. In September 2006 in a Ramadan sermon on adultery, Australia’s most senior Muslim cleric blamed immodestly dressed women who don't wear hijab for being preyed on by men. Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali alluded to the infamous Sydney gang rapes in 2000, committed by a group of fourteen Lebanese Australian men, and suggested the attackers were not entirely to blame. Sheik Hilali said: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem." That is the psychology of Muslim refugees who have been welcomed into Sweden in extraordinary numbers.

angel196..please what do you think about those...whos to blame the uncovered meat or the cat?open question to all here..who do you blame...the uncovered meat or the cat?please honest answers

This is the very last response I'll give you.

First of all my post never discussed decency from my religion's point of view but it seems you find it too difficult to understand that fact.

Second, talking about an uncovered meat and cats, the uncovered meat has not sense between right and wrong and a cat can't really reason as a human so comparing the both to a human situation is not valid.

Nobody here excused rape. I am a woman so I can never excuse rape. Unless a woman gives the greenlight no man is right for forcing himself upon her.

I talked about disrespect and treating indecently dressed women as cheap, disrespect for you might mean rape but rape is not what I referred to disrespect in this context.

Seeing a woman who is dressed like a hooker, walking up to her and asking how much she charges per night, if she isn't really a hooker definitely she'll take offense and say she was disrespected by the guy which is true but seriously who will you blame? The girl who dressed like a hooker or the guy for mistaking her for one? Its just like the senerio of a guy dressed like a cop and taking offense when people mistake him for one.

Some women, most who dress indecently love having one night stands or purely sexual relationships with no strings attached. If a guy sees a girl who's dressed like those sort of girls he's used to interacting with, mistakes her for one of them, has sex with her and then the next day the girl asks when he'll call, he tells her he won't and what happened between them is just sex. Yes, the guy has fault for not letting her know before hand. But they are both at faults so she can't blame everyone but herself for the woes she'll face for dressing indecently.[b]

Before you start quoting me, asking me about those that are decently dressed and yet are still used by some men, go back to my topic, SOME WOMEN ARE THE REASON GUYS DISRESPECT THEM. Of course even in that situation the guy has fault but again, the girl can't blame everyone but herself for the woes she'll experience. You can dress the way you like but be ready to accept and face the consequences it's gonna attract.

But anyways I have discovered you are one of those who don't see anything wrong in people walking around half naked which is why you especially should stop involving religion in this cause even your religion is against it and preach it as wrong and a sin. You don't have your religion to back you up in your views either. Dressing and looking good for one's husband as you said pastors preach isn't synonymous to walking around half naked. And no one asked anyone to tie wrapper. [b]

HAVE A NICE NIGHT.

dacoza007:
damn!!!....thats not indecency, that's hot
u b muslim true true , I just realized that,
I will choose d indecent!!!!! WTF

Really? And she can wear that to a church right? Very funny.

frenzyduchess:
now it seems you lack understanding, what extremists like you may call indent isn't what a liberal person will call indecent, stop trynbg to remove religion from it,because in the end what you perceive as indecent is greatly influenced by your religion,I should be the one to rather tell you to stop embarrassing yourself.No matter how much you try to lie,what a non Muslim calls OK will be tagged indecent, cos according to you and your religion, looking like a ninja is synonymous with decent, and why should I even walk naked?,for all I know I cab be wearing a high wait knee length and ninja looking people like you will still call it indecent ,that is why people like you need to shush it

Embarrassing and pathetic indeed. Don't use religion as excuse to comfort yourself.

Are any of the women below Muslims or are they wearing hijab? What's the difference between them?

Done with this too.

chayoski:
At a point, I almost got lost as to why a simple write up was turning into a religious thing. I feel even if you re a Muslim and your write up is based on that, it was not stated there so people shouldn't force it to that direction. like you rightly said, even pastors preach against it soit is not a thing of one religion being against it. Talking about bikini, I have this cherished friend that I once took to the beach after so much persuasion, and guess what she wore,,,a skirt far below the knee and a sleeve top, she is a Christian not just lip service. So please let us get the message and leave the messenger.

Thank you oo my bro. But nothing you say will make them see the simple write up as non religious, its that complicated for them. They'll stop whenever they're tired.

chayoski:
This person didn't answer your question. But op, why re they trying force your write up to a religious view? Have you had issue with them before now?

Don't mind them jare, it just something they want to use in satisfying their conscience. They support people walking around half naked and try to twist my words into religious view but the truth is that not even pastors support women walking around half naked. But I never even mentioned hijab or religious views.

cristianisraeli:
you keep hiding..trust me no one will beat you if you come out and give it to us straight ok..you just proved my point already and as much as you want to hide it ..you are talking from the muslim side...FOR GOODNESS sakes,what do you want women to wear at the beach..its obvious because muslim women now want their own pools and all that and they wear hijab to swim.are you talking of the beach in DUBAIor MAIMI BEACH...lol...OR A BEACH IN BRAZIL...LOL...PLEASE MI LADY...w[b]hat will you say about people that have different sexual orientation..throw them off the roof?[/b]no..people have the right to do whatever they want to do.i asked you something and you refused to talk about it...nudist..what do you have to say about nudism..if you tell me of our cultural side then i can somehow agree with you...this is 2017 and the world is changing incase you dont know..

Last reply on this quote too. Seriously ain't worth my time.

You keep ignoring my statements cause you don't want to hear the truth.

Dressing decently has nothing to do with religion but self respect and dignity. The fact that you think anyone who's doesn't support wearing of bikini in beaches is a religious extremists shows how very much ignorant you are. Even our cultural values are against it be it Yoruba Igbo or Hausa..[b]

Girls also go to beaches in knee length tights and tank tops that which I very much support not that I can wear even that one either.

Even if there are nudist all over the world, it doesn't make the practice right. After all there are some parts of the world that don't see anything bad in practicing witch craft and there are some places who don't see anything wrong in prostitution but that doesn't mean it isn't really wrong.[b]

The world might be changing, people might be changing wrong to right but that doesn't mean wrong is actually right. I can never accept or follow a negative change but you are free to, it's your life, just like I'm free to have my own opinion of it AND RELIGION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT .

IF I WAS TALKING BASED ON RELIGIOUS PERSPECTIVE, THE PHOTOS I'D HAVE POSTED OF THOSE DECENTLY DRESSED GIRLS WILL BE REPLACED WITH PHOTOS OF THOSE IN HIJABS, let that stick please.[b]

Done with this.

cristianisraeli:
well am telling it to you now straight..YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TELL ANYONE THEY WAY TO DRESS..NO RIGHT...have you heard of deeper life before and lords chosen and all of them...even if its a christian..i will give it to her straight..but muslims are always claming too holy.they want the world to dress like them,do like them..you cant force anyone..its happening all over the world..in arab countries..muslim men always spit on women if wear something thats not islamic..they will harass you..its happening in germany and sweden now.do you know sweden is the RAPE capital of the world now and guess the guys that are raping women...ITS THE muslim men...they say because the women dress provocatively and they cant help themselves..now tell me..whos fault is it...the man that cant control his zip or the women thats on minis skirts..tell me?i respect other peoples religion and what i dont respect is when other religion tells other religion how to dress..no...

Seriously, you aren't worth wasting my time on.

The last thing I'll say to you is that A WOMAN WHO IS DRESSED LIKE A HOOKER OR SLUT SHOULDN'T FEEL ANGRY OR COMPLAIN IF PEOPLE ASSUME SHE'S ONE. It's just like someone dressing like a cop and judging people for thinking he's a cop, who is the cause? For each profession there's a dress pattern associated with it. You can't dress and portray yourself as a slut and expect people not to think you're one. And please not one said anything about rape

Yes of course people are free to dress the way they like just as other people are free to think how they like of them.

You have freedom to wear anything you like just as I have freedom to think anyhow I like about what your dressing denotes.

As much as you'll love to associate it with religion, sorry to disappoint you cause it has nothing to do with it.

cristianisraeli:
shes not embarassing her self shes rather telling everyone why you are saying what you are saying..trust me i know muslims very well and i study the religion.so i know where you are coming from..but you need to know everyone can not be holy like you so i still stand on my point people have the right to dress the way that they want to dress and its not off topic if shes telling you the truth

She is cause I never asked anyone to dress the way I do but rather to dress decently. I'd never be caught dead in the photos of girls I posted as decent so why do I refer to them as decent??

So if a Christian was the one who made this post you won't think there's ulterior motive? Do you know what you sound like?

cristianisraeli:
you see that religious side that you have been trying to hide since....those women in beaches have a reason for wearing what they do there so even though I'm not a supporter of it....TELL ME WHAT DO YOU EXPECT A WOMAN TO WEAR AT THE BEACH...NIQAB??you are not a supporter of women wearing bikinis at the beach..stop hiding we all know you are talking from the muslim side period

You are just so unbelievable. Yes I don't support wearing bikinis because not only is it more revealing than any other thing but also because most decent girls don't feel comfortable in flashing their assets that why some WEAR KNEE LENGTH TIGHTS AND TANK TOPS TO BEACHES.

It's just so pathetic the way you keep forcibly attaching this issue to religion cause it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with self respect and dignity.

If you are a lover of indecency, that's your personal view and not religious view cause even pastors preach against indecent dressing or will you say they're asking them to dress in hijabs and niqabs too?

frenzyduchess:
personally everyone knows hookers are mostly found in clubs but stop paying lip service, even in islam, the picture of the lady on white is still regarded as indecent, so its actually impossible to please you extremists that think only looking like a ninja everyday of your life will please your maker even under hot sun, so to me ,you folks see even knee length skirts ,off shoulder tops and even rugged denim trousers as indecent ,yes I agree that some clothes are not meant for everyday out door wear, anylady who wears a club outfit on he streets is selling her market,and that is her business, if she gets disrespected, it's her disrespect not yours. I have witnessed two occasions where ladies were shamed in market for wearing trash, mind you this is in the south ,not even north,but I am more concerned about the motive behind this thread, you Muslims have made people think that being covered up translates to decency,but actually I have seen prostitutes on hijab, that is what I want you to know

It seems you are confused cause you aren't making any sense. Did anyone here talk about decent dressing in a religious perspective? NO!!! Stop embarrassing yourself going off topic talking about Islamic perspective of decent dressing this topic is not about that. It's about DECENT DRESSING in general.

You keep dragging in things that has nothing to do with the topic, namely religion. Again decent dressing isn't equivalent to being religious but having self respect. If I can show those pictures as not being indecent, you should stop embarrassing yourself further by calling me a religious extremists, it's so sad.

Please before you quote me further Google the meaning of indecent dressing.

If you feel walking around half naked is decent, that's not my problem. Just don't blame anyone for thinking you're a hooker when you're dressed like one.

plainbibletruth:
I take this as an admission from you that you're defeated.
You cannot go against your prophet, can you?
Cheers!

Hahaha Hahaha, defeat indeed.

I can never go against the prophet cause what I've been saying is exactly what he meant. The fact that you can't even understand it is pathetic. But I'm not wasting anymore time here with ignorant people like you.

If feeling you've defeated me will make you happy, pathetic but hey, keep on thinking it.

dacoza007:
you mean there should be an excuse for been half naked

What I mean is that, those women in beaches have a reason for wearing what they do there so even though I'm not a supporter of it, at least they have an excuse and it makes a bit of sense. Wearing things like that on streets on the other hand....

cristianisraeli:
well lets say your talking from the nigerian side..because of our culture and all that.but dressing does not mean a woman is decent.theres something called disguise,ok..decency is a womans character and not the way shes dressed,ok.i told you some men love their women hot and sexy,[/b]ok..[b]you know what they say about dont judge a book by its cover?..so dont judge a woman by the way shes dressed,ok..it might just be a disguise..in other countries people dress the way they want.i asked you about nudist...what will you say about them?i made mention of religion so you can stop been robin hood and come out straight..we all know why you are sounding this way even if you try to again..disguise..LOL

Don't judge a book by its cover... A book can never stop being judge by its cover mister even by those who preach otherwise.

Discussing with you isn't going anywhere especially since you see nothing wrong in going around half naked.

Have a nice night.

frenzyduchess:
now you seem to miss the point,you cant go to a club and expect to see this kind of dressing there,I believe I have listed what you muslims usually tag indecent dressing, like I said, you dont go to a club wearing that ,that's why its called dressing for the occasion which is the freedom you folks lack,even this type of dressing especially the one on white gown is still considered indecent according to Muslims ,so shut it and face front my friend, we all can't be ninjas ,simple

People and their thirst to turn something wrong to something right.

Stop dragging religion into this, it's making you seem desperate and pathetic especially since the photos I posted has nothing to do with Islam.

What do guys who go to club go there to do? Pick up a responsible laday? Huh, I never knew. Sorry for my ignorance.

You can't fault someone for thinking you're a hooker when you're dressed like one. Bitter truth.

cristianisraeli:
you are still not getting my point...and that is..its their life and everyone have the right to do whatever they please to do..well,we know saudi women cant go to the beach can they?or even wear bikinis..for me i think your word decency is not the way a woman decide to dress..its her character that makes her decent and not her dress,OK.thats my point

You can try to ignore it but dressing is a very big part of decency.

Again about the Saudi and religion, I never made specifics about religion? You did not me. I never said only Muslims dress decently neither did I say people from other religions aren't.

You might think it's only her character that matters but before people know her character, it's her dressing they'll see and judge her by. Most people don't even get to know your character. So what's stopping them from showcasing themselves as modest and responsible through their dressing?

cristianisraeli:
what do you have to say about wearing bikinis at the beach or swimming pools..LOL..would that be indecent too as well?we all know some people want their own private pools for women only and they want to cover their heads as well

You didn't answer my question abouaboutthose girls who you can't use hijab to judge. Are they decent or not?

About swimming and co. At least they have a good reason for being in bikinis or swimming trunks. We are talking about who roam nowhere near water but are still half naked, what's their excuse? Heat?

frenzyduchess:
and who the hell goes to her fiancée's parents house half naked?,there is something called dressing for the occasion which is the freedom you folks lack ,it must really suck wearing that thing everywhere you go, now , if you call wearing a gown or denim rugged trouser or a high waist mini skirt as indecent, then ,i say to you again, mind your business, not every one must look like a ninja

Wait, why isn't dressing half naked the mode dressing for visiting a fiance's parents? Cause its decent?

Are the girls below wearing hijab? What can you say about their dressing?

plainbibletruth:
It's all the more AMAZING that many of you Moslems are so ignorant of what your religion is all about.

So you now need 'common sense' to FILTER OUT or 'see' which portions of the PERFECTLY CLEAR quran is not literal.

Did it even occur to you that the portion was a narration of a person's experience?

You're being deceptive when you begin to twist things. Was Mohamed presented the picture you're now trying to use to cover up your ignorance or is it deception?

What is the focus of that portion of the quran - the SUN or the SEA? Don't tell me you think it's the sea that the portion is talking about.

The clear quran should be understandable to all; shouldn't it?

Now let's look at Mohamed's own interpretation in the hadith and see if it agrees with yours so as to know who is right or wrong - Mohamed or yourself. Perhaps you may have received better UNDERSTANDING than your prophet.

Let's see where and how:
Let's see the hadith.
In Sunan Abu Dawud 3991 we find this:
Abu Dhar said: I was sitting behind the Apostle of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water.

You can immediately see then that there is absolutely no room for your kind of reinterpretation of what the quran said. So the PERFECTLY CLEAR quran tells us that the sun sets in a pool of water.

So do you agree with your quran and your prophet or you prefer to still rely on your "COMMON SENSE" interpretation?

Do you agree there is at least this 'fault' in the quran?

This a big waste of time. Discussion with people like you seriously ain't worth it, sorry to say. Anyone who's been going through all my discussion will know. You can never accept the truth about something you've clearly decided to see the bad of even if its true. One day, everyone will know the truth.

Have a wonderful night.

cristianisraeli:
well we all know who the real muslims are..the ones that cover their head and you cant even see their eyes..and please tell me what does your koran say about muslim girls that dont cover.can you go to saudi and tell me this stuff?you go to saudi as a woman and say you wont cover..who born you?stop trying to hide behind words..we all know you are sounding this way because you are a muslim and you feel you are better than girls that dont cover their body.thats not true mi lady.THERES NOTHING LIKE INDECENCY...ITS A FREE WORLD.have you heard of one mans food is another mans poison?people need to dress how they want and that gives nobody the right to disrespect them..EVEN YOU..am guessing we all know whos ignorance now..

What do you call dressing half naked?

Again why should one respect something that even the owner shows no respect for?

You are so so unbelievable. And it's a waste of time talking to people who clearly see nothing wrong in doing something wrong. Have a nice night.

frenzyduchess:
my friend go and sit down and stop shaking your hijab covered head spreading the odour from your hair everywhere on this thread, self respect that you dont have in your mosque and homes, even with your covering most of you hijab wearing people don't wear pants under for quick access ,so mind your business no one is holding you from wearing your black hijab ,black stockings and black hand glove under hot sun, so sush it , your men don't respect y'all even with your covering, so what is your problem?, why not concentrate on your brothers

Hahaha, how pathetic. Seriously, it's a shame. If that's the pictures you'll paint me in to make youself feel better okay!

Actually, going to religion, not only do Muslim guys respect me, even the christians do to. Decency isn't equivalent to being religious though, it has to do with self-respect.

Again, Christians too dress decently. Even traditional worshippers too dress decently. So stop associating it with my religion.

You that's not a Muslim, try going to your fiance mothers house half naked and see if she'll pat you on the back.

cristianisraeli:
with all due respect mi lady..you need not say anything about religion if you follow this...laila illa muhammad rasulullah...so its obvious where you are coming from or speaking from.again a lady dressing indecently(aspa naija thinking/culture) does not give a man the right to disrespect her..hell she can walk around naked and that gives no man the right to touch her..its just like rape..if you are in the room with a woman and she spread her legs wide open..that does not mean go and enter..UNTIL SHE says you can come and enter..thats what am trying to say..infact those ladies that cover well sef as even worse..but i get your point as pa our culture in nigeria..but i have visited an asian country b4 and 95% of the women wear bum short even old women..so a woman have the right to wear whatever she want to wear and we must learn to tolerate each others views and beliefs.have you heard of NUDIST B4..people that like to walk around naked

Such is the greatness of your ignorance. Who told you it's all Muslim girls that dress decently?? God, some people are just so unbelievable. I had lots of non Muslim course mates who dressed more decently than even some Muslims. Maybe you are the kinds that can't do without associating things to religion.

Keep trying to excuse indecency, you might actual encourage some to join you to push it forward.

frenzyduchess:
all I can see I a muslim who is caged thereby resorts to criticise what she wish she could do,my friend ,why don't you face your mosque,with all your covering and all ,your men still treat Muslim wives as second class, with no voice, I will listen to talk about respect when you and your brothers hit your head on the same floor inside the same mosque, nonsense

Lol. I shake my head for you. You think I can't dress anyhow I like if I want to? Of course I can, religion isn't the only reason stopping me but self respect.

Stop bringing religion into this matter cause it has nothing to do with it. If you wanna talk about religion, make a post about it.

cristianisraeli:
every woman have the right to dress the way she want to dress and that does not give a man the right to disrespect her,its because muslim men cant control themselves thats why the prophet made muslim women cover themselves up and its happening..go to germany and sweden today..muslim men are raping the women there..in asia lots of women wear bum shorts and all.its like a norm to them..that shouldnt make whats under a mans short strong or make a man disrespect her

Again with the religion.. Did I mention anything like religion or are you trying to say only Muslim women dress decently? Christian women too dress decently so don't bring religion into it.

Jigba:
Lmao he shouldn't judge you for keeping your virginity till marriage but you are judging other ladies on how they dress

I didn't ask him not to judge me for keeping my virginity till marriage. He thought I wasn't one and wanted to judge me for not being one, that's why I said he couldn't judge me with not keeping it. Read our discussion again.

SirMichael1:
Lol. CRS right? The world needs a person that can pray and intercede on its behalf.

Studied? So you've finished school and still passed out with this mentality. Grow up o. This fūçkīñg world is changing and if you don't wanna change, don't try to talk against it cos its gonna yield no progress

The fact that the world is changing and people are now seeing wrong as right doesn't mean I have to change in that aspect with it. There's nothing wrong with my mentality, rather its the other way round. I'll keep talking against it as long as it's bad.

I'm not a Christian so you are wrong about what I studied. Neither did I study IRS mind you.

OLAJADON:
when I checked your profile I saw you are a mumeenat. salam
let me share an experience I had last 2 weeks
I was going to one of my brother shop not too far from my house, as I was going I saw I girl walahi if you see what this girl wore you as a lady would weep for her, she wasn't wearing a bra and what she wore was just pure thin cloth which was showing all her boobs as in all her boobs was been displayed when I saw it I had to first removed my eyes and she was very beautiful then I asked myself a question what exactly is the essence of cloth?

Yes, it happens a lot. But as you can see now, societies now see them as civilization. You can't change their minds cause they've decided to embrace the wrongs and throw away the right.

SirMichael1:
I am not defending indecent dressing. All I'm saying is that a girl dressed indecently shouldn't be disrespected for a common attire. Ask Estharfabian, she dresses indecently but has a fine character. That's gives no one a right to disrespect another person. A person can be nice in heart but indecent in dressing. Some decent girls are bad too so be objective in your article or writeup.

Congrats on passing jamb 2-3 years ago. What do you study? 'Women' affairs?

Going around in circles is tiring.

Who said that was when I passed jamb?

No actually, I studied something that had to do with how the world as a whole is turning vices into virtues.

DaveHert:
Lol, you must be confused at your article, and at the same time at your mentions to me.

Bye!.

It seems you are the confused one, let me answer my question for you. The topic is SOME WOMEN ARE THE REASON GUYS DISRESPECT THEM. I never said all the girls are the reasons but some girls, that's in regards to your question about the decent ones who are disrespected.

DaveHert:
Thank God you used "Most" now. Have they finished respecting those that respect their bodies?. Don't girls who respect their bodies in accordance to your definition of decency get used and dumped by most guys?.

Again go back to my post. What's the topic?

rebirthforgoody:
They say truth is bitter.she is right a woman shouldn't be exposing her precious body.dear keep it up you are really a woman not just a woman but great one at that.

Thank you for getting my point and not being sentimental as most people on this thread