₦airaland Forum

Change2015:
And what leadership has Jonathan shown to his party members in the NASS? Do we have his agenda, his priorities for legislation? Where is evidence of his own original thought? PIB is not his idea, the amnesty deal was not his idea... What has David Mark achieved in 8yrs? Is the president a man who demands efficiency, intelligence, honesty and integrity from the people he recommends for high office? Does it show? What is the transformation agenda but an empty slogan bouncing off empty stomachs of the public. It is clear even within the pdp that he offers nothing when it comes to leadership. 6 long years have revealed him to be a man in circumstances beyond his intellect.

Yar'Adua died in May 2010.
We are in Dec. 2014. Not even 5 years yet many confusionists keep saying he has been in power for 6 years.
How far will you go in spreading LIES in order to achieve your odoriferous objective

Dr, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has been a more effective & efficient leader going by the achievements in his less than 5 years in power despite the numerous challenges he faced compared to his predecessors and the 36 state governors.
If you want a bully who will flog you to do anything because he considers you and his fellow citizens "useless & senseless" you are on your own (OYO).

Africa does not need great men, it needs great INSTITUTIONS.

- Barrack Hussein Obama, POTUS

Enoquin:
You are a true Nigerian. I hope politics is in your future cards. #respect

Do you honestly think this would get to Amaechi?

Be rest assured that it will get to him one way or another........that is assuming it has not already gotten to him

Change2015:
The pdp has a majority in the house and Senate. If they stand together there is nothing the opposition can do to block any bills or motions they propose. Tambuwal remains speaker, because he has enough friends in the pdp willing to vote for him, and the President is wary of being embarrassed if a vote to oust Tambuwal fails. How else do you think the NASS works. The majority party wins 99% of the time, so don't go blame shifting.

This is not about blame shifting.
It is about shared responsibility in a growing democracy.

The NASS knows how to make plenty of media noise when they have their own personal agenda to achieve such as scaling the fence to ensure Tambuwal was not impeached, not so
Can you explain why they have not shown such solidarity in favour of the citizens whom they represent? Even if they do not win "against" the executive, please show why they cannot make plenty of media noise about their rejection of this aspect of the PROPOSED budget.
Thanks!

wirinet:
It is encouraging that you took up the challenge to show us any of GEJ's thesis or publication, the problem is that the said paper is neither a thesis or a publication. It was appropriately labeled Conference or workshop item. It was a joint paper presented at a workshop. It would be very difficult to determine jonathan's contributions.

Meanwhile please help clarify these discrepancies in Jonathan's academic records;



He obtained his M.sc at the University of Port Harcourt in 1985 and he was a Lecturer at the Dept. Of Biology, Rivers State College of Education, Port Harcourt from 1983 – 1993. How did that work? he was lecturing at one university while studying to obtain an M.sc in another university.

Is the College of Education the same as a university
The man who would later be our president took it upon himself to further his scientific studies yet detractors continue to confuse themselves

Whether una like am or not the confusion wey the Association of Pretending Crooks, APC don take dem broom do una must clear from una eyes!

Insha Allah
God Willing
L'ase Olodumare

Jakpon:
Ogun has the highest number of Universities in Nigeria

Do universities have children [pupils] or young adults [students]
When you drive around Ogun state during school hours do you see many children wandering about or not
What was the pass rate of Ogun state in the last WAEC and JAMB

esere826:
Amaechi is being extremely silly and oratorically mischievous

How would he establish that an election is free and fair?
The last presidential election has been adjudged the freest and fairest election in Nigeria, but CPC and some street urchins challenged its credibility

So is it the elders of APC that would sit in a round table and say that an election is free and fair?
He should be robust and give us the criteria that determines when an election is free and fair not looking at making that pronouncement based on feelings.
For example, does he expect a certain minimum Core North and South West vote to determine the elections credibility?
....make im tok am now

You may want to consider that Amaechi could be opening the door for possible return to his 'mother ship'!

barcanista:
Ogun state have lands available for industries to thrive, cheap and accessible land, ever ready labour force, favorable tax system, the political will by the government and it is the alternative hub of working class residents of Lagos state. Lagos is "condensed", Ogun State is expanding and its location put it at advantage for those willing to do business between Lagos, and other South Western states.

NOTHING about sending children to school to create a skilled labour market
Will industrial machines work by themselves

Why are you tempting me to yab you now?

texazzpete:
Exactly why we're going to vote out the PDP from the Presidency in 2015. Accepting the sheer incompetence of the ruling party since 1999 (and even worse in the past few years) has become a pill too bitter to swallow.

Why not put your will where your mouth is and join us in punishing bad leaders?

and FYI, NASS members are not exempt from this condemnation. Most people naturally focus on the rotten head.

I would like to join you in the recommended path. However the alternative choice is WORSE on each & every score.
Therefore I stick with the BETTER choice.

#Simplicita.

MrPresident1:
Christianity is a European religion, it did not originate from the Middle-East.
The Europeans fused their pagan religious practices into the original beliefs of the early Christians, and created the religion called Christianity.

A true Christian is different from an adherent of Christianity.

I don't have the luxury of time to indulge confused people.
Enjoy your blissful state!

bjims:
I do appreciate your response but I was referring to the total recurring cost of maintaining all the Jets not just the proposed one except your analysis covers all the Jets. Take note also that the other Jets are also getting Old and IMO it would be better to discard all the Jets and buy 2 or 3 brand new ones.

Please allow me to repeat again that I made SIMPLIFYING assumptions.
Let the NASS members who are over-paid do their job of looking at the details of this aspect of the budget as well as other aspects.
Not so

As regards the second observation you and I both know that the NASS will not do anything to stop the purchase since we all know how contracts are inflated and awarded. This is why I said we are not blessed with self less leaders. Leaders are called upon at different times in the life of a country to make a choice. The president does not need to be told that the acquisition or trading of jets is not what Nigeria needs now. We have been told by the iwealla about the austerity measures she proposes to put in place you cant tell me the president is not aware of it .

- I know that ORDINARILY the NASS will not do anything.
- I also know that ordinarily the HoR part of NASS "will not do anything" about the choice of the President and his party on having a particular tribe produce the Speaker to have some geo-political equity in the system at the federal level. Did that happen


So why should we keep giving LAME excuses for our own (My, yours, 160 million plus of us) mental LAZINESS that makes us accept what is abnormal even when there is ample evidence that in a particular case we can make a difference

Our constitution is largely modelled after the American's, not so
Do you see their Congressmen have two heads, or maybe one & a half?
Have they stopped us from having access to their books, library, history even online?

Please let us be part of the change we claim we desire instead of waiting some do-all, know-all messiah who will inevitably work for his own personal agenda while pretending and fooling the clueless followers

bjims:
5. You conveniently ignored in your analysis the recurrent cost of maintaining the existing Jets . In the present state of our economy it would have been more appropriate to trim down the number of Jets to a maximum of three. The rest can be sold and used to buy planes for the much needed national carrier we deserve.

This is the way I expect a responsive leadership to behave unfortunately Nigeria is not blessed with such

I clearly wrote this in my post that you quoted, did I not

I have simply made assumptions to simplify the issues that the decision makers could have taken into consideration.
It is over to our NASS representatives and senators to verify those details BEFORE approving this aspect of the budget.

So what else have you said that I have not captured and assigned FURTHER work to those who receive mega millions from us and are supposed to do the job

BTW, I was wondering if your "responsive leadership" includes or excludes our NASS members?
I look forward to your answer, sir!

major466:
pa Buhari trying to rebrand himself like a new generation music lover. To appear more cool, civilized and acceptable to the public. Too little too late. He's deceiving himself if he thinks attending a music show will change the general public's perception of him. He probably hate the music they're playing at the arena.

I actually thought Saro the musical was about the late Ken Saro-Wiwa just as Fela, the musical. I was wondering how could a Buhari sit in on such a show about the Ogoni activist that his "saint" Abacha killed brutally

#Never_Again

aanumama:
That is from your Brother.

Thanks for sharing the Lagos state Association of Pretending Crooks, APC Secretary's interview from where I picked this:

Igbokwe:

I am Igbo and I am the General Manager of Lagos State Infrastructure Maintenance and Regulatory Agency.

What would you say is the state of maintenance of infrastructure all over the state in the past 16 years of maladministration?
Do you think he still deserves his post?

Meanwhile how did you know he is my brother? You be winch, seer abi prophet/imam/oluwa/priest ni
That thing wey you take dey sabi tribe of person wey dey post for NL make you share me oh, make me sef dey take am wayo people like dem fake GoMs!

Meanwhile did you brush up on your history already

Orikinla:
This man wan show una before he leaves.
He wants to leave Nigeria bankrupt.

For your reading pleasure

idumuose:
I Will Never Contest Elections Again - Buhari
Dateline 2011

‎​Presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) General Muhammdu Buhari (rtd) has said that he will not seek any elective office again after Saturday's Presidential election.

Speaking at grand finale of his electioneering campaign in Abuja yesterday, Buhari said the 2011 campaign was significant for him because it is an election in which more unambigously than the previous two, “2003 and 2007, our victory is assured as evidenced by the unprecedented turnout by people and spontaneous popular acclaim all over the country.”

“This campaign is the third and last one for me since after it I will not present myself again for election into the office of the president,” Buhari said.

While commending voters for coming out mass to vote last Saturday, the CPC presidential candidate however, said it was not good enough, “you must maintain your presence during the counting and collation of votes and announcements of results. Because you haven't done this in all cases, they have already started turning your victories into defeats."

Buhari said the “the massive rigging that took place last Saturday is unacceptable and you must not allow a repeat performance next Saturday”.

Although he did not directly talk about the failed alliance between the CPC and the Action Congress of Nigeria, the former head of state said the task of defeating the ruling People’s Democratic Party (PDP) in the election is a collective one saying, “in the end we must all in unison send the PDP government packing by giving it a punch on the mouth”.
mouth
‎​

www.dailytrust.com.ng/daily/old/index.php/news-news/16766-i-will-never-contest-elections-again

The same Buhari has this to say:

2015: Only death'll stop me from contesting - BUHARI -
‎​http://sunnewsonline.com/new/cover/2015-only-deathll-stop-me-from-contesting-buhari/

I will run in 2015 - Buhari
‎​http://www.nigeriancompass.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8559:buhari-i-will-run-in-2015&catid=54:nigeria-today&Itemid=594

Buhari: Contesting in 2015 is an obligation - Daily Trust
http://dailytrust.info/index.php/top-stories/2947-buhari-contesting-in-2015-is-an-obligation

mcquin:
Pls i'm begging you, do not ignore. If indeed you have some tangible defense, I bet you won't ignore. Jokers of our time.

If my children should ask me why Nigeria remains the way it is, I know the people to point.

Since you missed it for whatever your motivation was, let me be kind enough to re-post:

anonimi:
Let me try to break this down to you and others who may be getting unnecessarily excited about this TRADE-IN.

a) Assuming you are going to spend N600 million on repairs and maintenance of the current jet over the next 4 years.

b) Assuming you have the option doing a TRADE-IN now for N400 million and reduced repairs & maintenance on the brand new, more fuel efficient jet of say N80 million over the next 4 years.

Will it not make better financial management sense for the lean AUSTERE times to take option (b) for a net savings of N120 million

I have simply made assumptions to simplify the issues that the decision makers could have taken into consideration.
It is over to our NASS representatives and senators to verify those details BEFORE approving this aspect of the budget.

When someone rants, you ignore.
When a valid point is raised you address it.

#Shikena
#Lobatan
#Finito

that is to say End of Discussion (EOD)

Firefire:
please don't forget to come back with testimonies of pictures...

Bon voyage!

And please be sure to show signs in the trains background to show clearly sey na Naija so that all these clueless doubting Thomases following their cattle breeding old soldier will not be casting aspersions on your picture-laden travelog (abi na trainlog sef) thread

Bon voyage and Merry Christmas!

What a rib cracker of a story.
Beautifully written although I must confess at certain points I thought you were just spinning us a yarn but I guess na wetin too much seasoning dey cause food be dat

Merry Christmas with or without the three remaining chickens!

100Cents:
A presidential jet cannot be less than a $40m (N8bn) gulfstream business jet. Now N400m(the advance payment) is mentioned to deceive the feeble minded.

Laughing at the understanding of some readers..

I trust only God. I am subject to mistakes( actions with unknown results ).

I also trust God but also rely on FULL details before making conclusions.

Relying on half-baked information from suspicious sauces that may be tainted by diabolic propaganda agenda is not a laughing matter.


Abi what do you think

honeric01:
And the last sentence has no fair probability?

I don talk my own waka pass
Nor be for my mouth you go hear (this time at least) sey teacher mama na winch

100Cents:
I don't trust this country or any of its leaders..

.........including yourself, relations & friends

Demdem:
I wasn't abusive instead I challenged u to annex ur God given talent which u did after my challenge.
After reading ur response, it's obvious u still see nothing wrong with the trade in despite being in austerity times.
All I can say to u is shame.

Let me try to break this down to you and others who may be getting unnecessarily excited about this TRADE-IN.

a) Assuming you are going to spend N600 million on repairs and maintenance of the current jet over the next 4 years.

b) Assuming you have the option doing a TRADE-IN now for N400 million and reduced repairs & maintenance on the brand new, more fuel efficient jet of say N80 million over the next 4 years.

Will it not make better financial management sense for the lean AUSTERE times to take option (b) for a net savings of N120 million

I have simply made assumptions to simplify the issues that the decision makers could have taken into consideration.
It is over to our NASS representatives and senators to verify those details BEFORE approving this aspect of the budget.

500GP:
MENTION THE TRADITIONAL RULERS IN LAGOS

LAGOS STATES IS SURROUNDED BY WHICH STATES

WHAT ARE THE NAMES OF CANDIDATE VERGING FOR GOVERNORSHIP POST IN LAGOS?

#LAGOS CAN NEVER BELONG TO THE IBO. IBO WILL ONLY COME TO LAGOS TO HUSTLE AS UNSKILLED PERSONNEL

Like this guy, no



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Uzoma Dozie, Managing Director, Diamond Bank



You are just a clown


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Colorful_Clown_3.jpg




and may want to consider a change of career to that, assuming you are not a professional clown already

nwaanambra1:
even firefire cant defend this!?

Its no easy job being a GEJite!


GMB 2015 by God's grace!

That is the stark difference between

- those who support Jonathan based on his better performance record compared to his predecessors and the 36 state governors
and
- those who support General Muhammadu Buhari.

While Jonathan's supporters are free to exercise their freedom in criticizing him as deemed necessary, those supporting the old soldier pensioner apparently do NOT have such liberty.
Na one way traffic be dem case like zombie, joro jara joro!
QED!!!



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Demdem:
Oponu. Surely u are shameless to accept the fact that Jonathan remains a fool for even conceiving such stupidity. Ur efforts in diverting the blame to NASS is sheer stupidity. Was it Nass that prepared the budget? U are so daft.

Have you checked your blood pressure today
I would hate to be responsible for your early demise oh!
Me I don talk my own be that

Demdem:
Fool, u are still going around with this stupidity of urs eh?
What was Jonathan thinking for him to conceive such malady?
What was Ngozi thinking for her to draft it and present it to the NASS in the first place?
If they don't propose it, would NASS have the affrontery to chip it in?
Despite paying Jonathan a huge sum of money as emoluments which so many world leaders can't boast of including Obama, yet the drunkard went ahead to conceive such?
Don't u think we Av a mad man as current president?

Clueless rants are best ignored!


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saaedlee:
Let the grey matter in the medulla oblongata prompt u to read dis letter:

https://www.nairaland.com/2059490/request-private-jet-open-letter

Thanks a lot for sharing your open letter.
However as per my post that you quoted, it will be MORE effective if you address it to the "opposition" SINAtors and representaTHIEVES, particularly those for your constituency so they can at least SCORE huge political points and at most put enough pressure to ensure the budget for the acquisition is not approved by their colleagues in the NASS.

This is how to make our democracy work better for us, don't you think

omenka:
If they are not sending our boys to prison, they are sentencing them to death! What is really going on mr President?? Seems you are now confused who the enemy is!!

Go through the report and tell us if the appropriate laws were duly applied or not.
Then come back here and tell us if you are not the confused person here

aanumama:
My friend the day a fashola, ambode or agbaje will win election or have political weight in Igbo land is the day a chukwudi or emeka will win election in Yorubaland!
Come down from your high horse because your lot ain't winning nothing! They should even be grateful they are considered for commissioner post.
They have the right to pay taxes as far as they make money here, your state govt. should tax the Yoruba's over there too.

As for Jimi, 2015 is the end of his political career.

You obviously don't know the history of

- Nigeria
- South West Nigeria
- Lagos state

I will advise you to read up and ask those who may have greater knowledge before you further embarrass yourself.
Next time I won't be this lenient, you hear me so

cyprus000:
buhari.always claiming saint,since 1960...to me,all dis one na eye service,just to make nigerians see him as a transperent person.can u imagin,buhari said he doesn't have 21million to buy his ticket...dem tink say we nigerians wear pampers?

These Association of Pretending Crooks, APC leaders looters really take us for proper mumus, chai.

Crowd funding, my as's

- Was that what they used for all their rallies till now?
- And the private jets the old soldier pensioner has been flying all over our country?
- Or the three FAILED attempts in 2003, 2007 & 2011 with Supreme court challenges handled by team of SAN lawyers who reportedly cost no less than N25 million?


For how long shall we allow these people to treat us like "useless and senseless" people as if we are cows to be flogged in order to move

ba7man:
I took this pix because of u.

Most Lagosians don't pay because they have boreholes and don't deserve tap water because they don't respect it.

I walk past burst pipes almost everytime.

The site I'm working at now uses tap water in VI, the one I was at in Yaba too has tap water supply, my house has Tap water supply (we don't pay tho cuz we're hooked to a borehole).

Lagos State is trying their best concerning water supply, its the people that need a change in mindset.

Thanks a lot for the photo evidence, my fellow TAP water crusader
I hope you agree that being hooked to the borehole is sub-optimal for both the individual and the whole society as the opportunistic diseases and epidemic outbreaks such as cholera, Ebola etc won't distinguish those who have boreholes from those who don't have Moreover, outside Lagos/Nigeria we are ALL regarded as sub-human, undeveloped people because more than 80% of our entire space is very backward.
The same goes for having a generator instead of being on the national grid.


Now, who is responsible for changing that mindset
Has Fashola made education of ALL children in Lagos his PRIORITY like Jakande did?
Could that have been an avenue for changing the mindset all these 8 or 16 years

500GP:
IBO TRIBE IS THE MOST FOOLISH TRIBE IN NIGERIA...

THEY WON'T GET ANY SIGNIFICANT POSITION IN LAGOS. THEY EYE THE THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR SLOT, THEY DIDN'T GET IT. WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE GULLIBLE IBO TRIBE?


#PDP OR APC WILL NEVER PICK IBO AS THEIR CANDIDATE,NO MATTER THE DIFFERENCES THAT EXIST AMONG THE PARTY. THE CONSTITUTION HAS CLARIFIED IT...

And you have just won the prize of the most foolish post in Nigeria.
Congrats

lawrencemleopo:
so no igbo running mate again?

How many Igbo

- LGA councilors
- LGA chairmen
- state lawmakers
- federal representatives

are there from Lagos state

In case you missed this part of the OP =>

He said she was largely responsible for the victory that the PDP recorded in Badagry when it cleared most of the votes in 2003.

“She was a councillor in Badagry. Before Badagry was split into local council development areas, she was able to secure votes for the PDP in Badagry,” he said.

You may also wish to consider the FACT that PDP won the LGA elections in 2011 organized by LASIEC as recorded on this YouTube video:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2W9iuKYbFc][/url]

Uploaded on Oct 30, 2011


This is a mobile phone video of the announcement of PDP as winners of the Badagry Central Local Government Elections with over 7000 votes. LASIEC Chairman, Justice Adeyinka later announced a different result. The lady speaking in the video is the LASIEC Returning Officer for Badagry Central on Saturday 22nd October, 2011.

Politics is about those who have PROVED they can add significant number to your cause not those who TALK only!
The Igbos (and other tribes) need to get better organized and more involved in Lagos politics so they start WINNING elections to get more negotiating power rather than being dashed commissioner post for which they are expected to be grateful

Considering how much taxes Igbos contribute to the N246 billion IGR Fashola collects every year, it is very sad they do NOT have the political MUSCLE to match their economic prowess.
Very sad!!!