Travel › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Inspects The Lagos Blue Line Rail Project (Videos) by anonimi: 8:06pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
Cognitivereason: Asin ehn
Am glad Tinubu showed him the way out . How will someone abandon such critical project Maybe he was inspired by the cancellation of Jakande’s metro rail by military dictator Buhari in the 1980s. How wonderful moving around Lagos would have been if Buhari did not do his 1983 coup, and Jakande completed the metro while continuing free education, healthcare, low cost houses etc? Something that ThiefNuibu and his puppets have failed to achieve in 23 years plus, even though they have been raking in money like kilode from the people’s pockets. eluquenson: REVISITING SOME OF THE LATEEF JAKANDE'S GOVERNMENT ACHIEVEMENTS FROM OCTOBER 1979 TO DECEMBER 1983 (FOUR YEARS AND 3 MONTHS) IN LAGOS STATE
* His government built the current Lagos State Secretariat which houses all the state ministries as well as the popular round house hitherto occupied by all subsequent governors of the state.
* His government built the Lagos State House of Assembly complex.
* His government built the Lagos State Television
* His government built the Lagos Radio
* His government built Lagos State University
* His government established General Hospital in zones all over the state with assurance of free health care.
* His government established Teacher Training College and the College of Education.
* His government built low cost houses in Ijaiye, Dolphin, Oke-Afa, Ije, Abesan, Iponri, Ipaja, Abule Nla, Epe, Amuwo-Odofin, Anikantamo, Surulere, Iba, Ikorodu, Badagry, Isheri/Olowu, Orisigun etc.
* His government established the Water Management Board and Waste Disposal Board on the 18th of August, 1980.
* His government constructed the Adiyan Water Works to increase water supply in the state to 18.16 million litres per day.
* His government modernized and expanded the Iju Water Works which was first commissioned in 1915. This increased daily capacity from 159 million to 204 million litres per day.
* His government purchased and commissioned the giant car crusher equipment. The equipment was designed specifically to crush derelict vehicles in Lagos State. It had the capacity to crush 45 vehicles per day.
* His government constructed, rehabilitated and resurfaced Epe/Ijebu-Ode Road, Oba Akran Avenue, Toyin Street, Town Planning Way, Alimosho-Idimu-Egbe Road, Idimu-Iba-LASU Road, the new secretariat road and several others.
* His government constructed Victoria Island/Epe Road and thereby creating an ‘oil rig’ for Lagos State.
* His government established Asphalt Plant for the Department of Public Works.
* His government established Electricity Board for Rural Electrification with provision of street lights.
* His government modernized, expanded and commissioned Onikan Stadium in 1982.
* His government established a singular school system and ensured genuine free education in Lagos State and the beneficiaries of this policy are in different positions of eminence in the country and around the world.
* His government raised the primary schools in Lagos State to 812 with 533,001 pupils (against 605 primary schools with 434,545 pupils he met in 1979) and secondary schools to 223 with 167,629 students (against 105 schools with 107,835 students in 1979).
* His government constructed 11, 729 classrooms with the maximum of 40 children per class between March and August 1980, by 1983, he had constructed over 22,000 classrooms.
* In July 1983, two commercial passenger boats christened "Baba Kekere and Itafaji" to run the Mile 2 - Marina (CMS) route via the lagoons were inaugurated by his government to mark the official launch of the Lagos State ferry services.
* His government took over the ownership and financing of Lagos State Printing Corporation in July 1980
* His government established the first State Traffic Management Authority (Road Marshals).
* His government established small scale Industries Credit Scheme which preceded the EKO bank.
*His government established LASACO Insurance.
*His government expanded existing market and built new ones.
*His government established Traditional Medicine Board.
WHO SAYS 4 YEARS IN OFFICE IS NOT ENOUGH FOR MEANINGFUL ACHIEVEMENTS?
IT'S A FACT THAT 90% OF GOVERNORS IN NIGERIA SINCE 1999 WITH REVENUES AT THEIR DISPOSAL CANNOT BOAST OF A QUARTER OF THESE ACHIEVEMENTS EVEN WITHIN THEIR EIGHT YEARS IN OFFICE. |
Travel › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Inspects The Lagos Blue Line Rail Project (Videos) by anonimi: 7:52pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
Sheuns: Ambode should have completed this a long time ago. Anyways it’s better late than never, at least people fit leave cars for house some days. A serious government will make the use of vehicles super expensive, while providing comfortable mass transit options to reduce traffic jams. Government is not just the governor/executive, but also the lawmakers/legislative arm. |
Travel › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Inspects The Lagos Blue Line Rail Project (Videos) by anonimi: 7:48pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
naptu2: Good God Almighty! The whole thing is right there in front of you and you can't read it?
The completion date was June 2013, but that was dependent on receiving the funds as it was due. The Lagos State Government took a loan from the African Development Bank to complete the project. It required a guarantee from the Federal Government before it could access the loan. The Federal Government guaranteed the first tranche in 2010 and work began. However, the Federal Government refused to guarantee the second tranche and therefore there was no money. Fashola had to go to Abuja to meet the minister of finance (Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala) and when he didn't get a favourable response, he went to the National Assembly to complain. The loan still wasn't guaranteed until a year later, when inflation and fall in the value of the naira had hit the project. This is in that same article that I posted. Read it
The only reason why they can complete it now is because Governor Sanwo-Olu got a funding assistance from the Central Bank.
This should be easy to understand (in fact, I am convinced that you know this, but you are just pretending). Many thanks sir for your feedback. I have read everything again but his talk about funding constraints was about the Badagry road, which is still undone. He was clear with the June date of the first phase of the light rail. Thanks for your understanding sir. |
Travel › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Inspects The Lagos Blue Line Rail Project (Videos) by anonimi: 7:17pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
naptu2: How would that have been possible when funding of the project was blocked by the Federal Government? Can you tell us what happened to the loan guarantee (I'll give you a hint, the same problem that happened during the Shagari era). Stop the spin.
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/01/09/funding-hampers-lagos-badagry-expressway-fashola/ Oga Naptu2, below is an extract from the PM News you posted sir. Thanks for your understanding sir. On the Light Rail Project, Fashola said the first phase of the project would be ready in June, while work on the rail would continue to Okokomaiko even as the expansion of the Lagos-Badagry expressway continues. |
Travel › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Inspects The Lagos Blue Line Rail Project (Videos) by anonimi: 7:14pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
Topmaike007: which one your state governor do, if as Lagos is running kiti kiti running kata kata to compete with other countries is how other states are striving to do the same,I bet you Nigeria would have been great in terms of infastructure....
Do you know that Lagos currently have 3 better stadiums that can host great football events while other state governor are building sport complex that even OAU sport complex is far better than.
Wait till Lagos State complete her power project and that's capable of powering the whole state for 24hrs non stop and una go see say lasgidi na the next big thing..
Drop hatred Lagos is in another league entirely..
All thanks to a visionary leader like BAT. Another league of worst global cities? Or what other league is that? itubaba001: Lagos, the commercial hub of Nigeria, has been ranking as one of the worst places to live in the world for the nine straight years, a BusinessDay analysis shows.
Data from the 2019 Global Liveability Index published by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), the world’s leader in global business intelligence, shows the city has been within the range of 137th-139th position out of a total of 140 cities in the world from year 2011-2019.
Last year, Nigeria overtook India as the country with the largest number of people living in extreme poverty, thereby becoming the world capital of poverty, according to the Brookings Institute. This year, the number has risen to 91.6 million from 87 million in June 2018. Every minute, six Nigerians enter the group of extremely poor people, according to the World Poverty Clock.
https://businessday.ng/uncategorized/article/lagos-ranks-amongst-worst-cities-to-live-in-for-nine-straight-years/ |
Travel › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Inspects The Lagos Blue Line Rail Project (Videos) by anonimi: 7:11pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
Topmaike007: which one your state governor do, if as Lagos is running kiti kiti running kata kata to compete with other countries is how other states are striving to do the same,I bet you Nigeria would have been great in terms of infastructure....
Do you know that Lagos currently have 3 better stadiums that can host great football events while other state governor are building sport complex that even OAU sport complex is far better than.
Wait till Lagos State complete her power project and that's capable of powering the whole state for 24hrs non stop and una go see say lasgidi na the next big thing..
Drop hatred Lagos is in another league entirely..
All thanks to a visionary leader like BAT. Complete power project, after how many decades since ThiefNuibu used the Enron barge propaganda to steal money from Lagosians? |
Travel › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Inspects The Lagos Blue Line Rail Project (Videos) by anonimi: 7:09pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
naptu2: Jubril A. Gawat @Mr_JAGs
Jubril A. Gawat @Mr_JAGs
If Lagosians are smart as they claim to be, should they not have been riding the light rail since June 2013 as promised by Fashola in January 2013? Are Lagosians really smart, or they are just as dumb as the 200 million Nigerians who enjoy suffering and smiling simultaneously? naptu2: Lagos light rail’ll be ready in June – Fashola
January 9, 2013
L-R: Lagos State Deputy Governor, Mrs. Joke Orelope-Adefulire; Managing Director, Lagos Metropolitan Area Transport Authority, Mr. Dayo Mobereola; Governor Babatunde Fashola; and Managing Director, China Civil Engeneering Construction Corporation, Mr. Shi Hong Bing, during an inspection of the light rail project in Lagos ... on Tuesday
The Lagos State Governor Babatunde Fashola on Tuesday said the first phase of the state Blue Light Rail project would be completed by June this year(2013).
He expressed confidence that Lagosians would start enjoying the services of the lrail project immediately.
The first phase would run from Marina and terminated at Okokomaiko area in Ojo Local Government.
Fashola spoke during an inspection of ongoing projects in the state which took him and his cabinet members to Orile-Iganmu, Alimosho and Ejigbo areas among others to assess the level of works being done by contractors.
The governor, who inaugurated the trackwork of the blue light rail at Alaba Suru, Coker-Agunda Local Council Development Area, said the level of work on the road and those of the National Theatre and Alaba-Mile 2 rail stations, would ensure early completion
He said, “In order to finish the project, the contractor did not go on vacation during the festive period. This will ensure that the project is delivered on time for the use of Lagosians.
“The first section of this rail, which started from National Theatre, Orile-Iganmu to Mile 2 Bus Stop, would be fully completed with the tracks laid.
“Construction work will continue on the project from Orile-Iganmu to Marina, the expansion work on the road from Mile 2 to Okokomaiko will also be intensified.
“This is what we do with the loan collected by the government. We don’t use our loan to pay salaries and other recurrent expenditure, what we do with our loan is to provide capital projects that would serve the residents.
“When the project is completed, the state would be at par with other major cities of the world.”
http://www.punchng.com/news/lagos-light-railll-be-ready-in-june-fashola/ |
Travel › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Inspects The Lagos Blue Line Rail Project (Videos) by anonimi: 7:03pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
citygarden: Good, a very Laudable project from vision leader. Asiwaju Bola Ahmed tinubu The failure who could not build it during his eight years in office? Or you have another JagaBandit in mind? |
Travel › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Inspects The Lagos Blue Line Rail Project (Videos) by anonimi: 7:01pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
LeoDeKing: Second term or not, governance continues till 29 May 2023. That is the spirit and God bless Sanwo-Olu, God bless Lagos state.
I understand the only governance ongoing in some 5 cursed god forsaken villages is the smell of Tinubu's farts and the number of times he farts per day. If you are not confused with ThiefNuibu’s farts, should you not ask why your idol has taken forever to do something that Jonathan did in five years with the Abuja-Kaduna railways?Can you please redeem yourself from your ThiefNuibu’s fart induced confusion? Is that possible  |
Travel › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Inspects The Lagos Blue Line Rail Project (Videos) by anonimi: 6:58pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
shigishege: Eko fine like London!! Are you talking about where Londoners have been using the Underground metro since 1863 when they were around 3 million people?Why are you so confused with low expectations of those who beg (campaign) to be given the opportunity to serve you  |
Politics › Re: 2023: Consensus Candidacy Not Solution To Nigeria’s Problems – Peter Obi by anonimi: 6:52pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
intruder15: These days to type plenty de tire me. Someone that didn't have a political God father or someone to stand by him.
I didn't like him while he was the governor because I was judging his performance based on the federal roads in the state. It was when I went home one faithful holiday that a realized he was busy doing state roads. Roads that eyes will not see. A journey of 50 mins became 20 mins.
A leader that led by example. Someone that shut the state assembly up by using the same car he recommended for them. A lot of people don't like him. Not because he was not a performer. But because he was not the type to share state resource to the influential people and political class.
That is why a lot of people love Tinubu. Cuz he knows how to play politics. He is skilled at it. Unlike the later who was mostly referred to as a stingy man. Ask Rev Mbaka.
That's the kind of person Nigeria needs now. Not someone sharing federal resources to close allies.
In the end let's see how it goes. Won't be surprised if he doesn't emerge PDP flag bearer. Cuz he doesn't know how to play share the money politics.
Our actions now will determine if our kids will have food to eat when they are teens. Let's see how it goes. The two bold parts are in conflict with each other. If we are taking action, then we can’t say that we will see how things go. Our actions should be strong and persistent enough for God to bless for the desired outcome, not so? |
Politics › Re: 2023: Consensus Candidacy Not Solution To Nigeria’s Problems – Peter Obi by anonimi: 5:31pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
CoronaVirusPro: Usual!
Very good at talking fictions If you are not the fictional person, please point out where he said anything fiction. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Consensus Candidacy Not Solution To Nigeria’s Problems – Peter Obi by anonimi: 5:30pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
Himtulie247:
 ThiefNuibu and Osinbajo are the greatest liars who packaged expired Bubu as APC messiah of failure. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Consensus Candidacy Not Solution To Nigeria’s Problems – Peter Obi by anonimi: 5:26pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
intruder15: I wanted to abuse you then I remembered that we can communicate without abuse. The fly overs at Awka were started by Peter Obi and almost completed by the same person. Only for Willie to come in, complete it within few months and carry his pictures to paste everywhere that Willie is working.
I am already tired explaining. Believe what you want to believe. Just know that Peter Obi was someone who worked. Rather than painting an image of his success, his success spoke for him.
Drops � Please don’t get tired of explaining and bursting their propaganda. Abeg. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Consensus Candidacy Not Solution To Nigeria’s Problems – Peter Obi by anonimi: 5:18pm On Apr 24, 2022 |
Mooh247:
 Talk talk Pandora Adaobi
This man can kill us with his many talks... And zero achievement or Landmark Project for 8 years( no flyover, hospitals, Universities, airport, metro busses or common stadium built)
Anyways what do you expect from someone whose only qualification is BSC Philosophy
He has being preaching about Economic bullshit yet the state he governed for 8 years ranks 16 out of 36 in Gross Domestic Product . Who are you trying to deceive with your cooked up figures that are not matched by provision of schools for every child, provision of water in every building, doctors and other healthcare professionals employed since 1999 etc.instead ThiefNuibu’s Lagos is one of the worst global cities every year. itubaba001: Lagos, the commercial hub of Nigeria, has been ranking as one of the worst places to live in the world for the nine straight years, a BusinessDay analysis shows.
Data from the 2019 Global Liveability Index published by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), the world’s leader in global business intelligence, shows the city has been within the range of 137th-139th position out of a total of 140 cities in the world from year 2011-2019.
Last year, Nigeria overtook India as the country with the largest number of people living in extreme poverty, thereby becoming the world capital of poverty, according to the Brookings Institute. This year, the number has risen to 91.6 million from 87 million in June 2018. Every minute, six Nigerians enter the group of extremely poor people, according to the World Poverty Clock.
https://businessday.ng/uncategorized/article/lagos-ranks-amongst-worst-cities-to-live-in-for-nine-straight-years/ |
Politics › Re: EFCC Chairman Bawa At Arsenal's Emirates Stadium: Photo by anonimi: 10:35am On Apr 24, 2022 |
donbenie: You don't think he can afford a vacation abroad? I'm very sure you know NOTHING about the man and his financial capabilities before he took office.. And going to watch a live match is demonstrating colonial mentality sickness? The same match you lot cram in a dinghy smelling,stuffy and dirty Viewing Centers to watch? Talk about HYPOCRISY  Are you a witch/wizard to know that I cram in a dingy bla bla bla? Or you are a hypocrite who is desperately projecting his hypocrisy on others? Please what are you sir  |
Politics › Re: EFCC Chairman Bawa At Arsenal's Emirates Stadium: Photo by anonimi: 10:13am On Apr 24, 2022 |
donbenie: The FBI director is not an Arsenal Fan.. He has no business in an Arsenal Match.. And what he legally decides to do in his vacation time is NOBODY'S business.. As long as he doesn’t show that he is living way above his earnings, and demonstrating his colonial mentality sickness. |
Politics › Re: EFCC Chairman Bawa At Arsenal's Emirates Stadium: Photo by anonimi: 10:12am On Apr 24, 2022 |
Angelfrost: Okay.... So, what proof do you have that he went there on anything more than his personal money?!!
Are you saying he is too poor to be able to afford this luxury?!! Or that he isn't entitled time off for such vacation?!! How much should be his total package in our country with minimum wage of N30,000? |
Politics › Re: EFCC Chairman Bawa At Arsenal's Emirates Stadium: Photo by anonimi: 10:10am On Apr 24, 2022 |
Mooh247: Ki Head of agencies don't carry blue passport only Governors do
And no where did I talked about Visa fee, I clearly talked about return ticket and cost of staying in Uk Does it not make you want to vomit, how we justify the evidently corrupt shenanigans of our personal persons in the public and private sectors? Yet we wail about the rottenness of our country. Thanks for setting the record straight. |
Politics › Re: EFCC Chairman Bawa At Arsenal's Emirates Stadium: Photo by anonimi: 10:07am On Apr 24, 2022 |
Jeezuzpick: One-sided narrative.
Ever heard of leave?
Abi it's not possible he's on leave and he went to watch his fav club play? It’s not about leave or no leave. It’s about colonial mentality except you have pictures of him in the stadium of his own home team with all their merchandise on him. Do you have such pictures  |
Politics › Re: EFCC Chairman Bawa At Arsenal's Emirates Stadium: Photo by anonimi: 9:58am On Apr 24, 2022 |
inoki247: Keep it up...
Nothing last forever....
Dem don make almost all d youth for south Ex con while dey flex around any aw with the money meant for the country nd still rubbing it on our face... Na why southerners dey allow them to do that? Upon all our bragging about being educated and they being illiterate  |
Politics › Re: Bees Invade Alaafin's Palace, Attack Mourners by anonimi: 9:18am On Apr 24, 2022 |
Dreal1247: Let the will of God prevail over the 2023 general elections in Nigeria. This is my prayers. And what works are you doing in addition to your prayer? Abi you only pray for your income without working for it  |
Politics › Re: State Policing, Restructuring: Obasanjo Had Opportunity But Did Nothing- Adesina by anonimi: 9:15am On Apr 24, 2022 |
BabaO2: Obasanjo did alot is a vague comment, mention what he did. Obasanjo was an appointed president that had no ball to do anything tangible for the country, he was too afraid to set Nigeria on the momentum of progress. Obasanjo was just gallivanting and globe trotting. Obasanjo's presidency was just to maintain the status quo of Nigeria as instructed to him by those appointed him as the present from the north. As a clueless president, acting on the instructon of his northern master, obasanjo stopped private power plant, he stopped state policing idea claiming only federal government can generate power and Nigeria is indivisible country, claiming that people behind state police will use it to win elections and divide the country. Nigeria today is seriously encouraging alternative power generation through private companies and individuals, nigeria today is clamoring for state police as the most potent solution to address the security challenges we are facing, these are what we would have done since 1999,but because we had clueless president we are still running on the template and infrastructure the British colonial masters handed over to us. Visionless people like obasanjo shouldn't be in government. However, vision-full people like Bubu should ruin our country and life with more unemployment, inflation, insecurity, poverty, underemployment, blackouts etc  |
Politics › Re: State Policing, Restructuring: Obasanjo Had Opportunity But Did Nothing- Adesina by anonimi: 9:13am On Apr 24, 2022 |
God1000: Obasanjo did a lot for Nigeria, he never divided Nigeria along ethnic and religious lines, he was a president for all and sundry, the reason nobody agitated for restructuring under him.
The same cannot be said about this government that keeps dividing Nigeria everyday.
Buhari's body language has so much emboldened killer herdsmen and bandits to continue their heinous acts particularly in my state benue, they kill innocent people everyday and get away with it, no punishment.
He also made Nigeria the poverty capital of the world.
He's not a good and patriotic president, history won't be kind to him
My biggest mistake was voting for him in 2015 thinking he was the Messiah we've been waiting for Is your biggest mistake not thinking that you/we need a messiah to do everything for us, while we do nothing? I hope you are not thinking like that again, but doing your own work on local government councillors and chairmen, state lawmakers and governors, representatives and senators to be more responsible for their own constitutional responsibilities.Meanwhile how did you think that someone who worked with Abacha as the worst known looting was going on, and said that he did not steal our money at Abacha’s 10th year memorial, to be the messiah? How did you think that  |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Endorses Atiku & Peter Obi For President 2023 by anonimi: 7:58am On Apr 24, 2022 |
Gospel367: The earlier you recognize that no present Igbo politician both in apc and pdp has the capacity to win presidential election with the present realities on ground, the better for you Please what was the capacity of Obasanjo and Falae on the ground in 1999  |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Endorses Atiku & Peter Obi For President 2023 by anonimi: 6:48am On Apr 24, 2022 |
OJKingz: Peter Obi is the man suitable for the seat come 2023 not Atiku What did he achieve in eight years as governor, that makes him suitable? |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Endorses Atiku & Peter Obi For President 2023 by anonimi: 6:18am On Apr 24, 2022 |
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Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Endorses Atiku & Peter Obi For President 2023 by anonimi: 6:16am On Apr 24, 2022 |
Mooh247: Must you lie to please your own self
The allegations by FBI stated money laundering you are here fabricating drug crimes
Tinubu offered free education and free NECO/WAEC for 8 years you still ask why he did give you free education Money laundering for drug dealers. You should write complete sentences. Is every child in free primary and secondary school in Lagos? Every child  |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Endorses Atiku & Peter Obi For President 2023 by anonimi: 6:14am On Apr 24, 2022 |
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Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Endorses Atiku & Peter Obi For President 2023 by anonimi: 6:12am On Apr 24, 2022 |
Mooh247:
 Why did the words "Fulani slave" just cross my mind
At Reno Omokirikiri's current age of 48 years, 27 years ago Atiku Abubakar was a retired custom comptroller , a millionaire and SDP Presidential aspirant
At Reno Omokirikiri's current age of 48, Bola Ahmed Tinubu was a retired ExxonMobil Treasurer and the Executive Governor of Lagos State
At 48 Buhari was a former Military head of state, a retired Major General, and PTF Chairman
At 48 Reno Omokirikiri Broda wey mumu still dey look for crumbs from Atiku's left over, he still dey kiss Atiku yannsh to survive  . Please why don’t you mention that ThiefNuibu was also an indicted drug dealer in the US, apart from being a rogue who has deprived Lagosians of free education for all children and water in every building? Even one phase of light rail he has failed to deliver in 23 years of a-looter ownership of Lagos, something that clueless Jonathan did for Abuja-Kaduna, after reviving the railways killed by Bubu and other military dictators. |
Family › Re: "How A Little Girl Almost Ruined My Life" by anonimi: 7:35pm On Apr 23, 2022 |
Mummytoo: Quite unfortunate, forgive her from the bottom of your heart
Thank God the matter didn't escalate Should forgiveness, like pardon, come after recognition of fault and punishment Or before? |
Crime › Re: How Can I Tell Her That I Saw Her Sex Video Online. by anonimi: 1:47pm On Apr 23, 2022 |
baralatie: An anonymous message will cream her out Please what do you mean by "cream her out"? Thanks |