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I didn't know it was already passed, I thought it was still for debate

[b]"Deputy President William Ruto said US President Barack Obama's decision to snub Kenya will not cause the Kenyan leadership sleepless nights.

Ruto said Kenya has many other friends worldwide with whom they will continue to cooperate with. He said the Jubilee alliance will remain committed to deliverings its election promises to Kenyans with or without the support of the US.

Ruto at the same time hit out at Obama over his push for recognition of gay rights by African governments and said Kenya will not accept it.

During the opening leg of his three-nation visit to Africa, Obama had past Thursday commended the US Supreme Court's decision for allowing same-sex marriages saying it was a "victory for American democracy. Obama had urged African countries where homosexuality is considered a crime to make sure that there was no discrimination against gays.

"We respect the US but let them also respect Kenyans," said Ruto after attending mass at St. Gabriel Catholic Church Bahati, Nakuru County.

He said Kenya was 'a God fearing nation' and would not accept "alien mannerisms" that were in conflict with Christianity and African practices and traditions."

"We are a God fearing nation and will not cooperate with those who believe otherwise," he added. Obama is expected to be in Tanzania today after visiting Snegal and South Africa. He said he would not visit Kenya as it was not 'an appropriate time' for such a visit due to the crimes against humanity charges facing President Uhuru Kenyatta and Ruto at the International Criminal Court.

Ruto's case is scheduled to start on September 10 while Uhuru's will commence on November 12. Obama, who is scheduled to end his visit to Tanzania on Wednesday told a town-hall meeting in Soweto that he would visit Kenya at the end of his term as president.

Yesterday, Ruto said Obama was well within his rights to choose not to visit Kenya at this time. He said the snub would not affect Kenya's bilateral relations with America.

Ruto yesterday said the Jubilee government was keen on deepening trade and economic ties with other friendly countries and cited the recent visit by President Uhuru Kenyatta to Uganda where he held a tripartite meeting with Presidents Yoweri Museveni and Paul Kagame of Rwanda. "The President will be proceeding to Burundi this week on a similar mission," he said."[/b]
http://allafrica.com/stories/201307011690.html

interesting how america doesn't have the gutts to speak against them about gay rights but makes it a duty to talk to africans about it

I'm not surprised, and they are spying on Americans in return. The media is hyping this as if it is news nobody ever suspected was happening lol

[quote author=Table Leg ]What the fu...ck in hell is joystick?![/quote]I guess it means P-enis in Nairaland, It changed to that word when I posted the article so I just corrected it so nobody will be confused

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OeiFT40T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beK_2WnPpbw

Interesting

solomon111: Lol.
Just like in the ghadaffi issue,as long as Nigeria does not recognize homosexuality,most african countries will not.

that is true Nigeria didn't agree with United States of Africa

[b]"DAKAR, Senegal — Laying bare a clash of cultures, President Barack Obama on Thursday urged African leaders to extend equal rights to gays and lesbians but was bluntly rebuked by Senegal's president, who said his country "still isn't ready" to decriminalize homosexuality.

Obama opened his weeklong trip to Africa one day after the U.S. Supreme Court expanded federal benefits for married gay couples. In his first in-person comments on the ruling, Obama said the court's decision marked a "proud day for America." He pressed for similar recognition for gays in Africa, wading into a sensitive area in a region where dozens of countries outlaw homosexuality and a few punish violations with death.

"When it comes to how the state treats people, how the law treats people, I believe that everybody has to be treated equally," Obama said during a news conference with Senegalese President Macky Sall at the grand presidential palace in Dakar.

But Sall gave no ground. Senegal is "very tolerant," he assured Obama, but is "still not ready to decriminalize homosexuality." Sall said countries make decisions on complex issues in their own time, noting that Senegal has outlawed capital punishment while other countries have not – a pointed jab at the U.S., where the death penalty is legal in many states.

Obama's trip, which also includes stops in South Africa and Tanzania, marks the most extensive visit to Africa by the first black U.S. president since he took office. Many Africans have expressed disappointment over Obama's lack of direct engagement with affairs on their continent – particularly given that his father was Kenyan and he has many relatives living in Africa – yet he was still enthusiastically welcomed.

Thousands of people gathered on the roadways near the presidential palace as Obama's motorcade sped through the coastal city, many in the crowds wearing white to symbolize peace. Some waved homemade signs welcoming Obama, while those gathered near the palace entrance sang and played drums, the rhythmic beats audible from inside the gates.

At Goree Island, the former slave trading post Obama visited later Thursday, local residents waited under scorching sun for hours to catch a glimpse of the president. They sang a song about his return to his ancestral homeland and broke into jubilant cheers as Obama and first lady Michelle Obama walked over to shake hands.

Looming over the festive atmosphere were concerns over former South African leader Nelson Mandela. Obama is due to arrive in South Africa on Friday, though Mandela's precarious condition adds some uncertainty to the agenda.

Obama spoke reverently about the impact that Mandela's struggle against apartheid had on his own activism, as well as about the 94-year-old's influence in Africa and around the world.

"If and when he passes from this place, one thing I think we'll all know is that his legacy is one that will linger on throughout the ages," said Obama, who has sometimes been linked to Mandela given their shared status as their nations' first black presidents.

Mandela's democratic influence in Africa is at the core of Obama's trip. The three countries he will visit were selected as a signal of U.S. support for African nations that have embraced democracy in a region where the legacy of corruption and authoritarianism have been difficult to overcome.

Sall, for example, won the presidency in Senegal last year by ousting an incumbent president who attempted to change the constitution to make it easier for him to be re-elected and for his son to succeed him.

Africa's democratic movements have not been accompanied in most places by equal rights for gays and lesbians. A report Monday by Amnesty International said 38 African countries criminalize homosexuality. In four of those – Mauritania, northern Nigeria, southern Somalia and Sudan – the punishment is death.

Discrimination against gays is the norm. In Uganda, evictions of homosexuals by landlords occur regularly, says the Amnesty report. Vigilante groups in several countries have posted the names of homosexuals online or denounced them on the radio, forcing them to go into hiding to avoid mob violence. In Senegal, suspected homosexuals who were buried in Muslim cemeteries were disinterred in several towns and villages, and their corpses were dragged through the streets.

On another subject, Obama was pressed in his news conference about the status of former government contractor Edward Snowden, who has acknowledged leaking highly classified documents detailing sweeping U.S. government surveillance programs. The Chinese government let Snowden leave Hong Kong, where he had been hiding, to travel to Russia, where he is now believed to be holed up in the transit zone at Moscow's airport.

Obama dismissed the notion of deploying U.S. military resources to detain Snowden, saying "I'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker."

On still another topic, the president had harsh words for the Supreme Court on its ruling this week that overturned key elements of the Voting Rights Act. Obama declared the decision "a mistake."

"I might not be here as president had it not been for those who courageously helped to pass the Voting Rights Act," Obama said.

The president is being accompanied throughout his trip by wife, daughters Malia and Sasha, and mother-in-law Marian Robinson. Following the president's meetings with Sall, the family boarded a ferry bound for Goree Island, which by some accounts was the center of the Atlantic slave trade.

The Obamas were given a tour of the salmon-colored House of Slaves where Africans were held before being sold into slavery. The president then peered out into the vast Atlantic through the Door of No Return, where shackled men, women and children left Africa, inching across a plank to the hull of a waiting ship.

"Obviously, for an African-American, an African-American president, to be able to visit this site, I think, gives me even greater motivation in terms of human rights around the world," Obama said after his tour.

The president's stop on Goree Island was the first of two visits on the trip highlighting racial change in Africa. The second is scheduled for Sunday at South Africa's Robben Island, where Mandela spent 18 of his 27 years in prison."[/b]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/27/obama-africa-gay-rights_n_3512530.html

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very funny thread, they look just like Kim and kanye but I almost thought it was them because this wouldn't surpass them as far as I am concerned

ijebabe: It has been unhidden since yesterday. The spambot has marked you because you posted multiple links on the thread. Delete those links if you can to avoid the same thing happen again. Thanks

Yeah I found out, thank you

She is beautiful and but natural

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I was trying to respond to somebody on my own thread, and now that thread is hidden

can you unhidden this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/732446/top-10-most-beautiful-nollywood

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Hello I know this is not the right place, but since early yesterday after just trying to respond to somebody on my own thread, and now that thread is hidden

can you unhidden this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/732446/top-10-most-beautiful-nollywood

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panafrican: She is not welcomed back. She should stay behing bar the rest of her life.

lol, understand though

weird

zetdee: Johannesburg - The Muslim Lawyers
Association (MLA) intends taking the
NPA to court for refusing to arrest
US President Barack Obama on his
South African visit later this month.
"We will ask the court to review the
decision neither to investigate or
prosecute and to order them to
commence a full investigation in
terms of the Rome Statute," MLA
attorney Yousha Tayob said.
The MLA said it submitted a
complaint to the national director of
public prosecutions and the SA
Police Service, calling for Obama to
be "investigated, charged, arrested,
and tried in a South African court for
war crimes, crimes against
humanity, and genocide".
The MLA cited the Obama
administration's drone programme
as the reason for its action.
The association said the complaint
was made in terms of international
customary law, as well as the
implementation of the Rome Statute
of the International Criminal Court,
Act 2002 (the ICC Act).
"The [drone] programme is
responsible for extra-judicial killings
of both innocent civilians as well as
US citizens abroad. The drone strike
policy has continued unabated with
total disregard for territorial
sovereignty and this is cited as the
primary reason that Obama should
be investigated and tried for war
crimes, crimes against humanity,
and genocide," the MLA said.
A drone is an unmanned aerial
vehicle. In a recent speech Obama
said the US used drones to target
people it considered a threat to its
national security when other
measures were not possible.
The National Prosecuting Authority
(NPA) confirmed receiving the MLA's
documents.
Tayob said the MLA received a letter
of reply from the state attorney's
office on Wednesday.
MRN also opposed
"They have decided they are not
commencing an investigation," said
Tayob.
The NPA was also not going to arrest
or secure Obama's attendance in a
court room.
Tayob said the application for a
review would be made next week,
probably in the High Court in
Pretoria.
The Media Review Network (MRN)
was also opposed to Obama's visit.
Executive director Iqbal Jassat said
the MRN planned a series of
protests over Obama's visits, over
the US government's use of drones,
its failure to stop the "occupation of
Muslim countries", and its not
shutting down the Guantanamo Bay
detention centre as promised.
The MRN supports the MLA's
planned legal action.
"We have rallied behind these
actions. Levels of pressure
developed by civil society would
force the US government to review
the purpose of this visit and possibly
lead to the cancellation," said Jassat.
A row is reportedly also brewing
over plans by the University of
Johannesburg to award Obama an
honorary degree.
According to a report in the Sunday
Independent, students were split on
this.
But deputy vice chancellor Tinyiko
Maluleke said the process was a
lengthy one, requiring high levels of
consultation and agreement, and
had not been finalised.
The process of nominating someone
for an honorary degree began with
discussions in the honorary degrees
committee, where candidates had to
receive 100% support.
From there, the nomination went to
the senate, which consisted of
senior academics and
representatives of the Students'
Representative Committee. After that
it, went to the council, which also
consisted of student representatives.
At each stage, a certain amount of
support was required.
"So when people say stuff has not
been consulted or students have
not been included, it's simply not
true. It's a very lengthy process,"
said Maluleke.
The same process applied to all
nominees.


www.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Muslims-oppose-Obama-visit-20130620

They must be smoking something if they think they can arrest Obama the president of the United States, lol

riyaq: those south africans are weak, why didnt they have the balls to kill the whites who opressed them but they killing somalis who have their own buisnesses

how are we taking ur jobs, if we have our own buisness

c/s 100%
I don't get it either

dasparrow: You even have time to respond to her. Most Americans are so blatantly ignorant of world geography that it makes you wonder what they are taught in high school. A group of people who cannot differentiate between a continent and a country, a city and a state within a country and so on and they are not ashamed of themselves considering USA is a so-called advanced nation. I can't even begin to tell you all the stupid obnoxious questions the average American asks me about Africa. The most annoying part of it is that, the internet is easily accessible in the USA and yet most of her citizens cannot even use it to acquire information about various nations of the world.

Ignorance is not cute!

True, I agree, the thread title was annoying itself before I started reading the comments, sometimes you feel you have to correct people who think Africa is a country or tarzan jungle land, because sadly people who stumble upon this thread that are American like her will believe what she said is correct when we have the internet today as you said to give correct info. Sometimes you can't help it but correct them because I am noticing this with people from America particularly on lack of knowledge on common sense things, the ignorance is baffling.

Tammy13: Kenya is a state in East Africa. Africa is a continent, just like America. Surely you know this.

Kenya is a country in east africa not a state