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[b]"EMEKA Ike, I am sure you are aware of the crisis currently going on between South Africa ana Nigeria, where 125 Nigerians were deported for using fake yellow fever certificates. Does Nigeria deserve this kind of treatment from South Africa?

Nigeria doesn't deserve this treatment. Talking from history, the role Nigeria played in the fight against apartheid. You know that we played the ace role in the war against apartheid. Our former leader, Olusegun Obasanjo and musicians like Sony Okosuns, Onyeka Onwenu and many others cried against apartheid. I remember how three months salaries of Nigerian civil servants were pooled together and taken to South Africa to fight apartheid.

Obasanjo did everything possible to end apartheid. He even went to the extent of suggesting the use of Juju. We are our brothers' keepers. We are concerned about our brothers. But Nigeria as a country is not a nation yet, we are not even a country. We keep reforming and rebuilding. Many of our structures are not in place yet. Many of our legal structures are not in place. The constitution itself is not yet in place. People keep complaining. There are lapses where people can pick advantages from. That is the reason South Africa as a country as a nation is taking advantage of our lack of structure. There are traitors and betrayers among us. It's deplorable, we don't derseve it.

With South African businesses everywhere in Nigeria, and having taken over our economy, do you think we can easily pay them back without hurting our economy?

Because we call Nigeria a Free Trade Zone, we fail to enhance our potential. I am trying to register my company in the UK and the US so mat I can shoot movies in those countries. I have to go through processes. I have to go through rigorous processes. I have to register my company and pay my tax. But here in Nigeria, any idiot can come from South Africa with a camera and equipment to shoot any nonsense. Because we don't have any structure in place to accommodate this. It is the same man-knows-man arrangement and that's the bane of Nigeria. We run everything, even the economy of Nigeria, based on man-knows-man. Few people have used this to ruin and cripple Nigeria. This problem has enabled other countries to come to Nigeria to milk us dry. There is a lacuna and they are taking advantage of this lacuna.

They are not helping our economy. They are destroying it. Our economy was better before they came than what it is now. Do you know that these countries are taking taxes from their Nigerian workers and they are not remitting it to the appropriate channel? Where are they keeping those revenues? We should investigate this. These foreign countries are more criminals than Nigeria. But it is the fault of Nigerians. It is an arrangement by some traitors and betrayers m this country. Someone can bring somebody from any country to Nigeria to invest in our economy without any legal process. I tell you, Syria can come to Nigeria tomorrow and take over our economy. It is possible. They come and take Nigerians for granted. That is the structure, that's the arrangement. The arrangement of man-knows-man. They come, and our so-called businessmen will tell them: "Don't worry, we know how to handle them." Who are those people that leave Nigerians in penury and leave them wretched and refuse to give them the benefit they deserve? Now, we are in a situation where pension money is being deducted from their salaries and at the end of their working years, it is not being given to them. Where are these monies? They take it to their own countries to revive their own failing economies.

Let the Federal Government find out, MTN, G4, DSTV, Multichoice and whatever names they call themselves, our government should investigate them. hey have succeeded in ruining our economy and leaving our people in total penury. Now, they have destroyed Nollywood. They are not selling Nollywood they are selling South Africa. They are not selling our own businesses, they are selling their own businesses. They have succeeded in using our own channel to sell their own and they have abandoned our own for theirs. How come our trade law is not being protected to enhance our welfare? It is shame on Nigerians! You see, people from war-torn countries that we are supposed to feel sorry for, come to our country and we give mem cars with drivers. It's sad to see Nigerian graduates becoming drivers for technicians from these countries. We keep playing second fiddle to these countries. It is so sad. Many Nigerians who work in these companies don't get their pensions when they retire, even nobody cares if their salary is being paid.

We need to reverse and revisit our trade laws. We need to know the rate of employment being created by them and how many Nigerians are benefiting from them. What is the credibility of the staff they brought from their countries compared to the Nigerian staff here? You can bring in a technician from South Africa to MTN and you pay him heavily while Nigerians working m the same company are being paid stipends. We need to be ashamed ofthis. That was what made me to fight for the Actors Guild of Nigeria. Do you know they don't even show Nollywood in South Africa? South Africa is a well organised nation; it is the fault of our leaders and business men who allowed them here in the first place. South Africa has robbed us of our Nollywood. It has crippled Nollywood. Now you don't see Omotola anywhere, you don't see Genevieve anywhere. Is it not a shame that a set of people struggled to lift Nollywood to the high esteem and a bunch of people are showing their works without any royalties being paid? And nobody is complaining. Nobody can complain because we have some traitors who are feeding fat from the situation.

You cannot show any South African movie in South Africa without paying royalties. Even in Ghana you can't try it."[/b]
http://www.modernghana.com/movie/17814/3/help-south-africa-is-killing-nollywood-emeka-ike.html

[b]"The federal government through its arts and culture coordinating agency, National Council For Arts and Culture in collaboration with Tribe Media Company the publishers of Tribe Times, a Leading African Affairs magazine in line with its vision to evolve a new culture to promote values for growth and progress in all spheres of African renaissance has announced a first of its kind bilateral culture forum within the West African sub-region tagged Ghana/Nigeria Culture Showcase (GHANIGCUS 2011).

In a statement by the Executive Director of NCAC; “the council is very pleased with the efforts of Tribe Media aimed at maximizing the cultural potential of both Ghana and Nigeria for mutual socio-economic gains”.

GHANIGCUS 2011 which is scheduled for August 10th and 11th at the Accra International Conference Centre is facilitated by Tribe Media and PanAfrica Ghana and is a to showcase the best of Afro-centric music, dance, parade of African fashion, traditional hairstyle, culture, contemporary arts, tourism and intellectually stimulating discussions intended to reawaken the intrinsic cultural values of Africa and as well enliven her people’s pride and prestige. The programme is aimed at celebrating the richness of African tribes and her people in Diaspora with a view to promoting African history, her enormous socio-cultural heritage, natural and human endowment even in the face of the influence of westernization on African values and culture.

Already, the event is enjoying the endorsement of key arts and culture players both in Ghana and Nigeria including the Artists Alliance Gallery, Accra, Ghana Ministry of Tourism, Nigeria High Commission, Ghana, Airport West Hotel, Accra, Federal Ministry of Culture and Tourism, Abuja, Centre for Black Arts and African Civilization among others.

Expected at the event are lovers of arts, culture and tourism, international arts, culture and tourism organizations, culture departments/attaché of embassies and High Commissions, government agencies of arts, culture and tourism, members of relevant legislative committees, state ministries of arts, culture and tourism, local government councils, fashions designers and hoteliers, members of the academic communities, gallery operators, arts exhibitors, organized private sector, corporate organisations, sponsors of arts, culture and tourism, hairstylists publishers of arts, art editors, the media and members of the public."[/b]
http://vibeghana.com/2011/06/21/ghana-nigerian-governments-partner-tribe-media-for-culture-showcase-2011/

stillwater: I don't think this has anything to do with culture per se, this is just ignorance on the part of the actors in this story.

True, I agree; how many Nigerians would really tolerate that in a large scale? not so much

ifyalways: One word for article and writer : "Kwasia" !

lol, wow, are you Ghanian? any way what is your views of why you think the article and the writer of the article are fools? just curious?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Yorùbá culture is also known as Orisa culture.

90 million people in Argentina, Benin Republic, Brazil, Cuba, France, Germany, Ghana, Haiti, Jamaica, Mexico, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, UK, USA, Venezuela, and other places, practice this culture.

https://yorubaonline.com/images/ibeji.jpghttps://yorubaonline.com/images/igba.jpg


I'll be posting what I know, so stay tuned to learn about one of the lovely and fabulous cultures/traditions of one of the largest group in Nigeria, situated in the SW part of Nigeria![/quote]Nice thread ileki

wow 50 years congratulations to him

[b]"The world we live in today is indeed cruel. With tradition and culture in the mind of many, life seems to be in the dark. In Nigeria today, rebranding they say is the order of the day. The question is; can we rebrand our tradition and culture to such an extent? And if we do so, who then will suffer?

One of such cases was that of the Etim family from Akwa Ibom State who had kept the corpse of their late mother in a room of their home for 6 months due to an accusation of witchcraft and lack of finances. It all started when a young man brought two young children to the SCOAN healing and deliverance service asking the man of God to deliver as they had both confessed to being possessed with the spirit of witchcraft. Prophet T.B. Joshua declared that they were not possessed and it was mental torture in their community that had forced them to confess this.

After the instruction from TB Joshua to ascertain the facts, the Emmanuel TV Team investigated the case deeply. Mr. Asuquo Etim brought the rest of his siblings the following Sunday to tell the rest of his story and reveal to the world the cage of cultural superstition that had literally bound their family and even their community.

Mr. Asuquo Etim narrated that when their mother died, their father, Mr. Etim Okon, was labelled as a wizard and accused of initiating and planning with two of his children to kill his wife. The man was isolated from the community, beaten publicly and stigmatised as a wizard. With such a terrible stain and the rejection that goes with it Mr. Etim was not able to finance the burial of his wife and so she was embalmed and lay in their family home for the past 6 months. The family dispute had gone as far as to cause disagreement between the neighbouring two communities as the wife of Mr Okon was the daughter of the Chief of one of the communities.

Mr. Asuquo and his siblings was financially supported by TB Joshua with the sum of N300, 000 and he also gave Asuquo an extra N30, 000 to pay off the debt used to sell cell phone recharge cards to provide for his brothers and sisters.

As part of the ministry of reconciliation, God has continued to use Prophet T.B. Joshua as a channel of reconciliation, speaking life, encouragement, peace and bringing unity to many broken homes and discouraged lives. Prophet T.B. Joshua further sent the Emmanuel TV Team with representatives from Akwa Ibom State to accompany Asuquo and his siblings to their village to see to the worthy burial of their mother and restore peace to the community which has been in disarray over this case.

On arrival at the village, The Emmanuel TV Team met with Asuquo's father and went to seek the approval of the Chiefs of the two warring communities to settle their differences and let the body of Mr Etim's wife finally be laid to rest. By the grace of God Almighty the two sides willingly agreed both keen to see an end to this horrible saga that had hung over their communities and so all the proper arrangements were made and Mrs Okon was laid to rest under the tearful gaze of Asuquo and his family.

Thereafter, the Okon family came to The SCOAN to give thanks for what God has done in their lives. At the same time Mr Etim Okon said his side of the story telling of his cold treatment in the hands of his society after the accusation of witchcraft and the suffering he and his family had gone through ever since.

Prophet T.B. Joshua publicly vindicated Mr. Etim saying that he was innocent of the accusation and that he was a good man. The Prophet further told Mr Okon to forgive who had in any way done wrong to him as God Almighty had also forgiven him his wrongdoings in the matter. Mr. Etim agreed to what the Prophet said."[/b]
http://www.modernghana.com/news/250401/1/rebranding-nigeria-culture-and-tradition.html

BBC news special on How Nigeria Impacted The Rest Of Africa
https://www.nairaland.com/777550/bbc-news-special-nigerias-impact
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11429067

another article on the topic: http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/9056/33/a-growing-nigerianisation-of-ghanaian-society.html

[b]"A GNA feature by Mohammed Nurudeen Issahaq
Accra, Sept. 23, GNA - One of the frequently played Ghanaian pseudo-gospel songs goes, "Osambarima, la-la-la-la-laa- laaaaa.." Then the chorus: "Igwe. Igwe!" We in Ghana, interestingly, seem to be suffering from a chronic dependency syndrome in our approach to most aspects of life, all our talents and intelligence notwithstanding. The spirit of cherishing one's own continues to elude Ghanaians, giving rise to the craving for things foreign. Exalting anything and everything that emanates from outside, while downgrading/devaluing anything local.

This tendency is manifested in the way we dress, the way some of us walk, the kind of food we prefer to eat, the music and other works of art we appreciate and invariably the way we think and act. For those who wonder why campaigns by successive governments to popularize the patronage of "Made in Ghana" products fail to make the desired impact, this is your answer. Consequently, we have become a nation of consumers providing good market, employment and wealth for other nations that continue to flood our country with their products.

It is common to see a Ghanaian youngman smartly dressed up in a pair of jeans from the United States; a designer shirt from France; a pair of shoes from Italy; a belt from Brazil and an imitated 'Rolex' wrist watch made in China, while he continues to lament about unemployment in the country. In contemporary times, primarily as a result of the emergence of "Nollywood" (the Nigerian film industry) and the influx of Nigerian movies into Ghana, Ghanaian society and culture have begun to assume a new dimension.

In what may be described as a 'Nigerianisation' of our society, one cannot fail to notice the rapidity with which certain aspects of life from our sister West African nation, both desirable and undesirable, are gaining roots in the Ghanaian society.

This phenomenon can be seen in our local movies, our music (both popular and pseudo-gospel) in the way we speak even from our pulpits. Words like "Chineke", "Orga", "Wahala" and "Tufiakwa" have gained currency both in our music and in ordinary conversation. It is common to see some Ghanaian young men trying to imitate the Nigerian Pidgin English on our campuses and at workplaces. On the negative side of this influence, some observers this writer spoke to in the streets of Accra cited instances like '419' fraud, while others also point to endemic violent robbery as having been imported by Ghanaian hustlers, who returned from "Agege" following their expulsion by the Nigerian authorities in the 1970s.

Of course this is not to say that those vices did not exist in Ghana, or that this country was populated by angels prior to the advent of Agege. The crux of the argument lies in the intensity, frequency and sophistication of such crimes. On countless occasions the Nigerian High Commission in Accra has had to come out with caution notices for citizens of that country resident in Ghana. The inclusion of people bearing Nigerian names among armed robbers that are often nabbed by the Police has contributed in strengthening this perception. Far from being negative alone, it must be acknowledged that the Nigerian influence referred to herein also has some positive sides.

The growing popularity of the "agbada", "kaftan" and other indigenous African attire/fabric in Ghana today can be attributed to the Nigerian influence. Like them or not, no one can take away the credit due our Nigerian brothers and sisters for their dedication to indigenous culture/tradition. On a normal day, a Nigerian Chief Executive Officer (CEO) would go to the office in a three-piece "agbada" or gown, crowned with the customary indigenous cap, rather than a Western suit and tie. To a large extent, this cultural uniqueness of the Nigerian has been the underlying secret of the Nollywood success story and which we in Ghana must copy.

Today, Nigerian movies sell like hot cake not only across the African continent, but also in Europe and the Americas, thus generating employment and wealth for thousands of young men and young women in that country. Chinua Achebe's book "Things Fall Apart" has won global acclaim as a classic because of its originality and the vivid manner he portrays indigenous Nigerian/Ibo culture in the book Another development from the Nigerian influence worthy of commendation is the collaboration between Ghanaian and Nigerian actors, which has undeniably brought a cast improvement in the Ghanaian movie industry so far.

The fusion of different ideas can only enrich creativity and yield immense benefits for the two sides involved. It is on this score that the two governments (Ghana and Nigeria) need to encourage and support such collaborative efforts in the interest of cultural cooperation, which both the Economic Community of West African States and the African Union Charters seek to promote.

Throughout history, societies and nations that have made it are those that have taken pride in their indigenous way of life, maximized the use of local resources while curtailing the taste for foreign goods. Check it from China, India, Malaysia and Japan, among other countries. Therefore, if it would take the influence of our Nigerian brothers and sisters for us to rediscover/revive our rich cultural heritage, foster a strong sense of belonging and eradicate the foreign taste from Ghanaian society, so be it!

The opinion of this Writer with regard to the subject of imitation is that even though it may not be an entirely bad practice to pick an idea or two from foreign lands, it should not become a permanent habit as that could kill indigenous initiative/creativity and give rise to a dependency syndrome and lead to some form of mental/cultural colonization. In instances where one adopts a foreign idea, especially in the literary and entertainment spheres, the smart thing to do is to modify or improve upon it rather than applying it verbatim, thereby exposing oneself to sanctions under existing Copyright Laws. It is heart-warming to note that the directive requiring Ghanaian civil servants to wear indigenous attire to work on Fridays is yielding positive results, but there is still room for improvement. The objective of that policy would have been achieved when Ghanaians in both the public and private sectors come to appreciate our locally-made products, and don themselves in rich African fabrics each day of the week rather than Fridays only.

Let us Ghanaians take pride in what we have and express without apology for being Ghanaians and Africans on every convenient occasion.

Having said that, it must, however, be emphasized that the logical starting point for nurturing a sustainable citizenship consciousness and national pride is right from the pre-school level, through primary to junior and senior high schools. The concept must be enshrined in the school curricula, with parents lending a hand of support in the homes.

It is not too late yet, and the earlier the relevant Ministries took up the challenge the better it would be for both the present and future generations."[/b]
http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/features/artikel.php?ID=190916

[quote author=tpia@]the 16th century southwestern kingdoms shouldnt really be so hard to decipher or so mysterious, imo.

most parts of the west have very detailed records of that period, and i'm wondering why its not the same for places like ife, etc.[/quote]Interesting, I though it was the same for Ife: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ife

firestar: I see where you're coming from.

Thank you

shymmex: I don't care about football, and who inhabits the place right now - but both North Africa, and the so-called Middle-East are historically Africa.. There is no Middle-East - the term middle-east is a British creation.....

All the civilizations built there were built by black Africans - read more, and stop posting your ignorance all over your own thread.

You don't get it don't you, I don't care about whether the British made the term or not, the place right now is known as a separate region of itself now(even though it isn't a continent), so that argument of yours is flawed and I don't care whether they were once Africa(that is already known knowledge doesn't change anything about how North Africa is today) because as far as I am concerned the people that are there now are far removed from Africa culturally, and etc. Also you sound like a fo.ol right now because I already said that the only thing African about North Africa is that they are in Africa and their early civilizations were built by the black Nubians but the north africans of today are no longer african as far as I am concerned but completely Arab or mixed, the black africans are completely wiped out, their culture now is middle eastern. So please take you anger some place else.

This is not ignorance, the north Africa today is culturally middle eatsern(I don't care if it was part of Africa originally or that the British created the name) because South America used to be part of Africa, and it has been said all humans came from Africa you don't hear me saying they are also African as well, give me a break. The only African about north africa to me is they are in the continent of Africa an their early civilizations(Nubians), everything else about them is middle eastern, so when I think of african people the north africans of today don't come to mind.

shymmex: You don't consider North Africa to be Africa, huh? How old are you and what kind of stupidity is that?

The truth is that, there is no middle-east - that space called middle-east used to be part of Africa..

Middle-East is a British creation, period!!

The only thing African about North Africa is they are in the continent of Africa and their early civilizations besides that they are as middle east as they come as far as I am concerned. This is not stupidity and I am not the only one thinking this many sub-saharan black africans feel the same way. A great example is the world cup nobody cared about the north african teams just the non-north african teams because North africans don't support african issues but arab issues, sorry

[quote author=Royal-VII]Oprah also Interviewed the so called Video Vixen Karrine SteFFans aka SupaHead......

Famous for nothing but swallowing rappers Slimey Man Loads

..Amazing how black women never bring up tha fact that there are a Galaxy of Useless Talentless Black women who have gotten famous thee exact same way as these Armenian whoorez.

Oprah herself is nothing but an Aunt Jemima Self Hating Uncle Ruckus breed ignorant C00n herself though actually...

It's not by accident that white america has elevated this Mississippi tap dancing clown to the financial mega status that she currently holds.
[/quote]Well I have nothing against Oprah, I have read her biography and she has went through alot before she became what she is today, I have noticed some african americans don't like her because they think she acts white but I feel she struggled from dirt poor,raped and rejected by her mother, to be the first to go to college in her family, and eventually becoming one of the top women in the world.

When it comes to supahead and the rest, to me they are all the same regardless of race, I never knew Oprah even interviewed her to be honest but in all honesty it is the kardashians being popular for absolutely nothing, supahead is only popular in the hip hop world while the kardashians are popular nationally, and little outside America, especially with her 72 day wedding; plus many white americans are getting disgusted with the kardashians as well. Both supahead and kim are the same to me, race is irrelevant but maybe it is women in your community that you feel are not bringing up what you are saying I guess

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]I've got to watch this on Sunday.

Oprah asked some pretty important questions I'd like to see answered lol.

LMAO @ "Would you have been successful without the sex tape?".[/quote]LOL, that family is a mess with money smh

PhysicsQED: There's definitely nothing else there.

The media obsession they're getting now is the same as what the Osbornes got when they put their crazy family on national TV several years back, but at least one member of that family is actually a rock star. I don't see why these Kardiashains should be famous.

Anonymous, please tell me you're not a fan of their antics. You seem way too reasonable for that.

NO, LOL but I find it funny that they even got Oprah's attention to get a interview, it makes you wonder the way America is culturally with celebrities that are famous for nothing or for s-ex tapes.

PhysicsQED: If this series is ongoing, I hope he returns to West Africa.

If the point of this series is to showcase African kingdoms that were sophisticated in one way or another, there's a lot that happened in West Africa that's worth mentioning besides Asante and Benin.

And if he's going to include the Berber kingdom of Morocco as African because it's in North Africa, why didn't he include Egypt which is also in North Africa and is also part "black"? I honestly wouldn't include either because one (Egypt) is a hybrid (African/Asiatic) culture at best and the other (Morocco) is really only African by a technicality (being on the same continent) although the country is part black (due to the Arab slave trade).

True, to be honest I don't consider North africa really african if you know what I mean; just another middle east to me so you are correct in your assessment.

opinions?

https://www.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/53359-pic-the-kardashians-meet-oprah-winfrey/1339618850_oprah-kris-jenner-bruce-kendall-kylie-kim-kardashian-kourtney-khloe-rob-scott-disick-lamar-odom-lg.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56AEJiJL330

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1G-7zQNUpg

[b]"The entire Kardashian family, including siblings Kourtney, Kim, Khloe, and Rob, sit down with Oprah Winfrey for "Oprah's Next Chapter" on Sunday during which Oprah will try to get to the bottom of why the "Keeping Up With the Kardashians" klan is such a cultural phenomenon. In the interview, a clip of which you can see above, Winfrey asks if they would have found such fame if they weren't attractive, a question Rob was eager to answer — whether or not his sisters wanted him to.
They're not skinny women," Rob, 25, quickly replied. "They're not models here." When his sisters ribbed him for his response, he added: "I'm just saying: You're great role models for women, young girls."

Kim, 31, tried to offer more insight. "I don't think [our success] would have happened if we were all skinny, pretty models. I think it had to do with the curves, the dark hair. I remember when the wave of Jennifer Lopez and Salma Hayek and these beautiful Hispanic women came into light. I looked up to them and I loved them but I thought: Where are all the Middle Eastern women?" said Kim, whose family is of Armenian descent. "We took that category or helped broaden that. In life, I think people just have 'it' — I can't explain what 'it' is."
Winfrey, who she had never met the Kardashians prior to the interview or watched any of their E! shows, said she wanted to sit down with them to figure out why they had become so popular. "Why do so many people love to watch their every move and why do so many others love to hate them," Winfrey wrote on Facebook. "Are they completely ego centered? Are they really 'famous for being famous' or is there something more?" Noting that by the end of the interviews, during which she also grilled Kim about her 72-day marriage, she said: "I 'GOT IT.'" Winfrey also said Scott Disick, Lamar Odom, Khloe, and Kim were the ones who surprised her the most.

To watch the full interview, tune into "Oprah’s Next Chapter: Kardashian Family" this Sunday at 8 p.m. ET/9 p.m. PT on OWN. "[/b]
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/rob-kardashian-to-his-sibs--you%E2%80%99re-not-skinny-.html

https://www.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/53359-pic-the-kardashians-meet-oprah-winfrey/1339618850_oprah-kris-jenner-bruce-kendall-kylie-kim-kardashian-kourtney-khloe-rob-scott-disick-lamar-odom-lg.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56AEJiJL330

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1G-7zQNUpg

" The entire Kardashian family, including siblings Kourtney, Kim, Khloe, and Rob, sit down with Oprah Winfrey for "Oprah's Next Chapter" on Sunday during which Oprah will try to get to the bottom of why the "Keeping Up With the Kardashians" klan is such a cultural phenomenon. In the interview, a clip of which you can see above, Winfrey asks if they would have found such fame if they weren't attractive, a question Rob was eager to answer — whether or not his sisters wanted him to.
They're not skinny women," Rob, 25, quickly replied. "They're not models here." When his sisters ribbed him for his response, he added: "I'm just saying: You're great role models for women, young girls."

Kim, 31, tried to offer more insight. "I don't think [our success] would have happened if we were all skinny, pretty models. I think it had to do with the curves, the dark hair. I remember when the wave of Jennifer Lopez and Salma Hayek and these beautiful Hispanic women came into light. I looked up to them and I loved them but I thought: Where are all the Middle Eastern women?" said Kim, whose family is of Armenian descent. "We took that category or helped broaden that. In life, I think people just have 'it' — I can't explain what 'it' is."
Winfrey, who she had never met the Kardashians prior to the interview or watched any of their E! shows, said she wanted to sit down with them to figure out why they had become so popular. "Why do so many people love to watch their every move and why do so many others love to hate them," Winfrey wrote on Facebook. "Are they completely ego centered? Are they really 'famous for being famous' or is there something more?" Noting that by the end of the interviews, during which she also grilled Kim about her 72-day marriage, she said: "I 'GOT IT.'" Winfrey also said Scott Disick, Lamar Odom, Khloe, and Kim were the ones who surprised her the most."
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/rob-kardashian-to-his-sibs--you%E2%80%99re-not-skinny-.html

buzzedoffbeauty: Should I remove the picture, seems I am too dark and it's become offensive to some...

No you are beautiful, leave your picture

I believe Oduduwa existed but the falling from the sky or coming from the bini's theory I don't really believe; coming from the Egyptians (or Mecca) is possible but I doubt it. I do feel he came from the NOK though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nok_culture

warlei: Anonymous is nt shying away from d dark colour of yoruba girls.60% are dark,25%fair,15% are light.

thanks, I don't know where the skin color assumption came from with him because tiwa, oyinadamola and Nikki are dark skinned; my mind wasn't there. That argument is his not mine or a concern of mine, my point is features that's all

Odenigbo Aroli: Look,we know a typical yoruba look,so dont make it look like you dont know....most yoruba women are dark skin....no need posting those pictures to convince yourself.....A light skin yoruba woman is very rare and you know this...We all know you posted mostly the few light skin yoruba women convince who I dont know but we all know dark skin is synonymous with yoruba women and its nothing to be ashamed of...I actually like darkskin women more.

I am not talking about the skin color(that is your assumption not mine or what you claim "we all" ) and most of the women I posted are not light skinned they are brown skinned(I wasn't putting no preference in skin color), I am talking about the features, you are changing it into the skin color thing. There is no need to convince anybody or myself of anything but I knew where this thread was heading to a bash yoruba women thread, so I wanted that to be stopped, especially on this thread. So I have no problem with dark skinned women but the OP is African American and I don't think it is fair to paint a picture to her that is biased.