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[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=855913.msg10062838#msg10062838 date=1327688950]just their nature, i should think.

even in nigeria they're the same way.


they're in the US also but i dont think they mix much with southern nigerians possibly because of compatibility issues.
[/quote]Interesting but you are right when it comes to America I have heard this a little from muslim yoruba's about hausa's they encounter

DanKan0:
we dey plenty in London. holla for links

oh that's interesting, I would like to see the links because when I read the article I agreed because I rarely encountered one in the US either.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=855913.msg10056898#msg10056898 date=1327625731]They do tend to keep low profiles.[/quote]I wonder why?

I feel 2Face needs to stop talking about this period because no matter what nobody will believe him to a extent; it's either people think he is a womanizer, a i-diot , he lack morals, doesn't understand the importance of a condom, or feel he is practicing his form of POLYGAMY. Whatever it is, it's his problem, he is a good singer but "he made his bed now he must lie in it". He needs to accept the consequences of his actions and just start living his life because talking to the media to change public perception in Nigeria of him in his personal life is like trying to talk to a rock. I think he needs to start talking about his career now.

I read this article and I found it interesting, so I wanted to hear what people's opinions are about it when it comes to Hausa's abroad

"I have met few Hausa people in all the time I've lived the UK, but I have many Yoruba and Igbo friends and have met hundreds of others.

I know we're all one; ever since the British decided to bring these three distinct peoples together under one nation called Nigeria, we have shared a destiny and a future. But the Hausa and Fulanis- two distinct groups united by Islam, inter-marriage and history- remain mysterious to many Nigerians abroad due to their relative invisibility. Below are some reasons why I think this is so."

1. Private people
"Hausas are private, reserved people who mind their own business. They are often, in very Islamic states, not as exposed to Western influences as other groups which means that emigration to the UK or the US is not the 'great ideal' they've dreamed about as a result of consuming Hollywood movies or music, as it is to others. Because of their Muslim religion, Islamic countries like Dubai and Saudi Arabia."

2. Simplicity
"Hausa people are known for their simplicity (rich Hausa men have been known to walk everywhere and wear the same clothes even though they can afford cars and expensive clothing) so the bright lights of Hollywood or the golden streets of London doesn't hold the same appeal. They are modest and unmaterialistic and don't have the need to obtain expensive things from abroad."

3. Laid Back
"Of course they enjoy the finer things in life, but Hausas don't often go to the great lengths others do to secure a visa to the West. The rigmarole of waiting in line under the hot sun for the whole day outside the US Embassy, the thousands of Naira necessary to secure your tickets out and the paperwork and often dodgy means of acquiring visitor status to enter these countries is not something they pursue. It could be said they lack drive and ambition, which is untrue. A Hausa man's home is his castle and he's able to be content with the little he has as long as he provides for his family."

4. Less Education
"Northerners are also less educated than their Southern counterparts. Indeed, many eschew Western-influenced education for traditional Islamic schooling, so going overseas to study and embark on a career is not open to them. They may also prefer travelling to Arab and Islamic countries because they see the West as Christian-influenced which puts them off coming here."

5. Docile women
"Hausa/Fulani women are even less likely to be university-educated than their men, and are sometimes married at an early age, thus their aspirations are stunted and their opportunities for exploring the world limited by their tradition and home lives."

6. Knowing No one Abroad
"Another limiting factor to Northerners going abroad may be the fact that they don't know many of their kinsmen living in other countries. If you know people in Mongolia the thought of going there could appeal, otherwise you might choose to stay home instead. Yorubas and Igbos have large communities in many areas around the world so stepping off the plane they have the name of an 'Uncle' or a church to go to. "

7. Wealth and Poverty
"There are many wealthy Hausa/Fulani Alhajis who do travel abroad, send their children to study in Western universities and conduct business in different countries, but they don't always live amongst other Nigerians. There are also many poor Malams who cannot afford to travel even if they wanted to and learn to make do with the little they have. "

8. You have met them but didn't know
"Some Fulanis don't 'look' Nigerian. You may also know or have met Nigerians but didn't know they were Hausa/Fulani. So next time you meet an African with a Muslim name, you might be talking to a Hausa or Fulani person; a minority amongst Nigerians in the diaspora."

Source: http://hausanigerian..com/2011/03/why-you-dont-meet-many-hausa-people.html

safarigirl:
^True, apart from that, I kinda get distracted by the hair, make up ǡŋ₫ over the top everything in Ghanaian movies to actually notice the beauty of some of these women

True

1. Genevieve Nnaji
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"The trend began with the release of Genevieve Nnaji’s hit track ‘No More’ few years ago amid controversy.  Thereafter the fire spread, and hitherto caught up with virtually all our screen gods and goddesses.

And today, the implication lies in the fact that in a few years from now, the nation will be confronted with the reality of producing more actors-turned-musicians than it will produce musicians-turned-actors.

Genevieve’s emergence in the nation’s music scene opened the floodgate for other movie stars to follow suit. Her album which was banned in Nigeria later was selected by Yinka Davies in the Sound City star host as one of the ten top videos.

Unfortunately, since debuting with that album, Genevieve is more visible on screen than she is in the studio.

An indication that the Imo State born actress did not only adhere to the valuable advice by her critics from the outset to concentrate on her acting career which has brought her to limelight and given her fame than trying her hands in a dead talent, but that music as it were, did not  put food on table."

2. Omotola Jalade Ekeinde
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"Shortly after Genevieve hit the street with her “No More” album, Omotola followed suit with her hit track ‘Gba” in 2005.  Though Omosexy’s critics believe she’s more of an actress than a singer, the actress’ much published debuted album received little attention. But according to the singer, ‘the album was one of the best deals in 2005’ and sold ‘over a million copies.’

Omosexy was not discouraged either, as she recently released a thirteen track album titled ‘Feel Alright’. This follow up album was coming after five years of debuting with her first album.

By her second album, the screen goddess has reiterated her commitment to hold her own in the music industry. Even at that, observers believe, her acting career is being threatened by her incursion into the music genre"

3. Nkem Owoh
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"Nkem Owoh’s ‘I go chop your Dollar’ was well received by the audience.  His album  was said to have sold more than a million copies and was widely accepted, having come from Chukwuka Emelionwe’s Kasvid Ventures.

Report had it that what happened subsequently took the shine of “I go chop your dollar” as Stanley Okorie, the ace sound tracker was said to have appeared from no where and claimed that the album was his intellectual property.

The one time highest paid actor has since released a second album to prove critics wrong titled ‘Osuofia “don come again’, but the one was not as successful in the market as the first. May be, the comedian- actor is working on his third album. Who knows!

Also joining the bandwagon of actors-turned-musicians were two actors of a kind Victor Osuagwu and John Okafor a.k.a  Ibu. While Victor’s  ‘Man na Mumu’ album was a hit, Mr. Ibu’s “Dis Girl” raised dust in the music scene.

Victor released his hit track ‘; Ije Love ’in vernacular. Critics recounted how he displayed much of chauvinistic sentiments singing and dancing with traditional Igbo dancers. But it’s surprising that after that album, which was described as ‘incisive and inspiration,’ Victor has failed to leave up to the expectation of his fans.

But like Genevieve, Victor has not been able to sustain the tempo, as he has never done his second album.

The same thing is applicable to Mr. Ibu. His album, described as “blending romance and activism” in one album is a height of creativity. The message was clear in the hit track ‘Annoyed’ where Okafor a.k.a. Mr Ibu criticises the Nigerian Government for not providing quality life for the citizenry. But today, despite his debuted album, Mr. Ibu is more at home on screen than in the studio.

Among the latest entrants are Jim Iyke, Stella Damascus Aboderin, Shan George, Mama G and Desmond Elliot.
Jim’s debuted album ‘Who Am I’, featuring likes of 2face, Yinka Davies and Sound Sultan amongst other acts was widely publicised last year. Unfortunately, the album, judging from the audience responses, did not meet the expectation of the fans of the Nollywood bad boy. But that is not to say, that the actor has not made an impact on the nation’s music scene.

Produced by Puffy T and Spoons, the Afro-pop was released on the stable of Untamed Records. Tracks from the album include “Jim Iyke Mania,” “Bad Boys Don’t Kiss and Tell,” “When you point one finger at me four are pointed at you”.

Also for some time now,  Stella Damascus has shunned the screen to focus on her music career. The star actress is said to have been in the studio, putting finishing touches to her debut album.

It was gathered that the album, which contain about six or eight tracks, hopes to feature she and Sammie Okposo. Recall that at last month’s premiere of Ini Edo’s ‘Memories of my Heart’, Stella thrilled the teeming audience that graced the occasion with her soul-stirring souls.

Actress, Shan George and Desmond Elliot recently pitched their tent in music. While Shan released her debut album on the 14th of November 14, in Abuja, Elliot’s inspiring song “Ï don’t know why he loves me” is currently ruling the airwaves. Equally, Ibinabo Fiberesima is said to have concluded the recording of her “Look Within” single, which is composed for her by Charles Granville.

Looking at the trend, while it is encouraging in a way, and economically rewarding, it’s equally a paradigm shift that gives our movie stars the leverage to express the totality of their talents in varied mediums other than acting."
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http://connectnigeria.com/articles/nollywood-stars-making-fortunes-from-music/183

Kreyolbobo:
To many Blacks outside of Africa, being called an African is an insult? who is to blame the media or the elders? Why is everything of disgust associated with Africa?

It depends actually but I have noticed what you said especially with african americans and Black latino's however I have seen some who are proud to be called african but I have to be perfectly honest besides their ethnicity historically they are not culturally African any more, they have their own cultures; Caribbean Black's have their own culture, Black Latino's have their own culture and the same with Black americans, their so far removed from Africa now. Almost all don't know their tribe of country they are from in Africa, all they know is that their ancestors are from the continent of Africa and that's where it ends. I have witnessed many Black americans refuse to be called African because of the reason I just stated above, even disgraced presidential candidate Hermain Cain refuse to call himself African. The reasons behind it can be both their elders and Media from my experience.

Besides that why should Africans really be concerned about this, they have nothing to lose either way. If this were people born in the western world from african parents then I would understand your concern but with Black diasporians, well they have the right not to be called african because culturally they are not any more and africans shouldn't even be surprised by this any way.

dasparrow:
At bolded, exactly Missy_B.  I have cousins raised by my aunt who is a widow and all her kids are doing fine. They are medical doctors, lawyers, college professors you name it. I do not agree that every child raised by a single parent turns out to be a tout or an ashawo. Growing up, I had friends from single parent homes and today they have their booming careers and are happily married with kids. Some Nigerians just stereotype too much. Most of the thieves in Nigeria today did grow up in 2 parent households where both the man and his wife/ves were wretched like a church rat yet they kept multiplying like chickens. At the end of the day, they could not afford what they manufactured and these kids are the ones who become 419 scammers and drug peddlers caught and executed in far away asia.

You have good points here and there but it has been researched and shown that majority of children for the most part from 2 parent households do better then children from 1 parent households(at least in America). However that doesn't mean children from 1 parent households are bad because I have seen examples where children from those households come out good, President Obama and President Clinton came from homes like that, at the same time that doesn't mean that children from 2 Parent homes all come out perfect look at how Hitler came out. At the same time I have seen households where when it is a single mother, especially if the children are boys, that in most case the boys come out a mess because there is no father figure around. So this is not a  stereotype, there is truth to it but I personally will never demonize children from 1 parent households and glorify children from 2 parent households but in the end of the day children from 1 parent households are at a higher risk then children from 2 family homes of messing up in life.

What is going on with Hollywood marriages now a days; I never expected that from Heidi and Seal but at the same time should I be surprised with the way Hollywood couples are divorcing now a days.
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/sources-heidi-klum-seal-filing-divorce-164320228.html

igbo2011:
THere are many historians who tell the truth about great African history.  Look up Anta Diop and Ivan Sertima. Also go to this site to learn more about African history: http://endingstereotypes.org/african_history.html

Watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKgyAxqD9mQ

Thanks for the sources

all4naija:
Thank you for the videos and link! It is time we start telling the stories by ourselves.

You welcome and you are right; this is where it starts

Ignatio:
Just saying from the African perspective sha. Bt I wont be comfortable with somebody else kissing my wife with hand around her neck.

Oh I understand, like I said I am not a kissing and touchy person with strangers and etc either and I understand where you are coming from but some people from other cultures especially westernized European cultures see nothing wrong with it, so I am not surprised that man did that to Omotola.

jay bee:
That's simply because most African players ply their trade in Europe.

Exactly, African players play their trade in Europe because their sport is football, and since America doesn't care for that sport not many african players come to America, so they won't have as much interaction with African american women. The only black women african football players are exposed to are african women and Caribbean women to a extent.