fawaz050:


Exposed? Do you think your rants here means anything?

The Qur'an says:

"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become distinct from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in ṭāghūt and believes in Allāh has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allāh is Hearing and Knowing." Qur'an 2:256.


Why would I keep arguing with you when it also said:

"For you is your religion, and for me is my religion." 109v6.


I have so many to do with my life bi Idhni llahi than brabble with someone who's not ready to argue constructively.

Have you ever seen an idol, animal, human being or anything bearing JEHOVAH aside Almighty God?

fawaz050:


Exposed? Do you think your rants here means anything?

The Qur'an says:

"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become distinct from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in ṭāghūt and believes in Allāh has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allāh is Hearing and Knowing." Qur'an 2:256.


Why would I keep arguing with you when it also said:

"For you is your religion, and for me is my religion." 109v6.


I have so many to do with my life bi Idhni llahi than brabble with someone who's not ready to argue constructively.

Who is the most confused element between you and the author of Quran?


Quran 53:19-20 Abdul Hye

Do you -Meccans- see the idols Al Lat and Al 'Uzza you honour and revere and regard with extreme respect and devotion

and another idol (Manat of the pagan Arabs), the other 3rd (as the daughters of Allah)

Shey na me write your Quran nii? Come and see the daughters of allah according to your hoelly Quran

fawaz050:


I leave you to your thing then.

There's no need to join word with a self-conceited green like you.

May Allah guide you to the right part.

After exposing you both, na to jakpa abi

Your Islamic god, allah will never guide me, I'm powerful than your idol you inherited from pre-islamic Arabia

fawaz050:


Because you're lying. And no matter how much he tries to clarify points to you. You keep lying and portraying distorted facts.


You're quoting Qur'an 53:19-20 and he asked you to move a little down further to verse 23, that your misconception will be clarified. You still kept on quoting 19-20. Even 19-20 did not Said that those idols where the daughter of Allah. Allah was given an analogy which you (with your bigoted mind) Will not understand until you read it to verse 23.

Verse 19:
So have you considered al-Lāt and al-ʿUzzā?

Verse 20:
And Manāt, the third - the other one?

Verse 21:
Is the male for you (the idolators) and for Him (Allah) the female?

Verse 22:
That, then, is an unjust division.

Verse 23:
They are not but [mere] names you have named them - you and your forefathers - for which Allāh has sent down no authority. They follow not except assumption and what [their] souls desire, and there has already come to them from their Lord guidance.

Allah said in verse 23 that he didn't authorize them as gods in any way. That the idolators are just doing that Which their soul desires.

Antichristian has already explained that the idolators know that Allah's the Lord of the Universe. But they ascribe partners to him and believed that these partners are a way to Allah. The same way Christians believe Jesus Christ is the medium to his Father or his Lord.

You're distorting facts to suit your narrative. How can one debate with someone like you?



Allah's asking them this because

Alfa Fawaz or Sheikh Fawaz thank you for intervening in order to help your brother, AntiChristian


But you Muslims believe that allah your Islamic god, allah has no partners, why now ascribing partners with him? Who is confusing you people in islam? Is it allah the author of quran or your people in Saudi Arabia?


Second question, Why is your prophet's late idolater father Abd Allah bin Al-Muttalib has to share his name with your Islamic god, allah since muhammad was the first muslim?


Alfa Fawaz, tell your brother AntiChristian to stop lying here.. He said proskynēsai doesn't mean to worship, jor advice him not to ever practise his taqqiya on a public forum like this

The guy above me ehn let me just sitdon dey read comments sha

AntiChristian I told you by the time I'm done with you, na to avoid this thread

I AM VERY SURE YOU WILL RUN AWAY BY THE TIME I WILL BE EXPOSING YOUR GULLIBLE, IGNORANT, etc

AntiChristian:

Lie Number 1
Where was Allah shared with an Idol in any Hadith or Qur'an verse? Elohim was used for YHWH (not later formed Jehovah), Angel, Man and Satan. Allah is only used for Allah.
Allah was never present physically on Earth in any Islamic text! His knowledge encompasses all things!

Muhammad's late father was an idolater in pre-islamic Arabs, his full name is Abd Allah bin Al-Muttalib... Why is your prophet's late idolater father has to share his name with your Islamic god, allah?

I pray you answer the above question

AntiChristian:


The Bible was not revealed in English! Jesus was not an Englishman! Read and learn!

You need to read as holy spirit has failed you! Also see attached!
https://biblehub.com/matthew/2-2.htm

Your god allah has failed you yet another time again, These two words WORSHIP and ADORE are mostly used from the Biblehub you sent, shey you're blind again to see them nii?

AntiChristian:


proskynēsai is the word that was translated as "to worship" and it actually means to fawn or crouch to, i.e. prostrate oneself in homage.

This is from the same Biblehub, a click will settle your ignorant, gullible and moribund

https://biblehub.com/greek/proskune_sai_4352.htm

AntiChristian:


Stop being ignorant. Assuming you read the attached now you won't spill these lies! Anyways, let me agree that you are using free mode and didn't see the pictures i attached earlier!

1. Genesis 23:7
Then Abraham rose and bowed down before the people of the land, the Hittites

2. Genesis 33:3
Then Jacob went on ahead. As he approached his brother, he bowed to the ground seven times before him.

3. Genesis 42:3
Now Joseph was the governor of the land, the person who sold grain to all its people. So when Joseph’s brothers arrived, they bowed down to him with their faces to the ground

4. Matthew 2:2
and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship (proskynēsai) him.”

5. Matthew 18:26
“At this the servant fell on his knees (prosekynei) before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’

Compare with:

5. John 4:24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship (proskynein) in the Spirit and in truth.”

You have been deceived to believe in the English translation of your Bible where they translated everything to hype Jesus!

You've been deceived by the head slammers from Saudi Arabia with the league of alfas and imams that wrongly translated everything to suit your ignorant as if they know English and Greek more than the owners of these two languages

AntiChristian:



Quran 53:19-23 -Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-'Uzza (two idols of the pagan Arabs)

And Manat (another idol of the pagan Arabs), the other third?

Is it for you the males and for Him the females?

That indeed is a division most unfair!

They are but names which you have named, you and your fathers, for which Allah has sent down no authority. They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire, whereas there has surely come to them the Guidance from their Lord!

These female goddess of pre-islamic arabia are daughters of allah according to your quran, if allah is not an idol, why are these goddess daughters of your Islamic god?

Quran 53:19-20 Abdul Hye

Do you -Meccans- see the idols Al Lat and Al 'Uzza you honour and revere and regard with extreme respect and devotion

and another idol (Manat of the pagan Arabs), the other 3rd (as the daughters of Allah)

AntiChristian:



Muhammad's ancestors were Ishmael and Abraham. The Arabs know Allah as their Lord from Abraham and is never represented with any idol. Just that they associate partners with Allah!

You should note that Arabian societies before Islam were not atheistic societies that denied the existence of Allaah, or societies that were unaware that there is a Lord, Creator and Provider. They knew that, and they still retained some traces of the religion of Ibraaheem, and they had contact with Jews and Christians. But their problem was that they did not worship Allaah Alone in exclusion to others; they had other gods whom they associated in worship with Him, and which they worshipped not on the basis that they were the Lord, the Creator the Provider, but because they claimed that these were intermediaries who would intercede between them and Allaah and bring them closer to Allaah. Hence Allaah said concerning them (interpretation of the meaning):
“And if you (O Muhammad) ask them: ‘Who has created the heavens and the earth,’ they will certainly say: ‘Allaah’” [Luqmaan 31:25]

This indicates that they acknowledged that Allaah is the Creator. Another aayah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And verily, if you ask them: ‘Who created the heavens and the earth?’ Surely, they will say: ‘Allaah (has created them)’”
[al-Zumar 39:38]

Many aayaat indicated that they believed in the Unity of Lordship (Tawheed al-Ruboobiyyah); their shirk was with regard to divinity (uloohiyyah), as Allaah says concerning them (interpretation of the meaning):

“And those who take Awliyaa’ (protectors, helpers, lords, gods) besides Him (say): ‘We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allaah’” [al-Zumar 39:3]

i.e., they said, we only worship them so that they may bring us closer to Allaah.

Abraham was not an Arabian, he never in a second called on Most High God using your Islamic god allah, he never prayed to your Islamic god allah, don't associate allah with Abraham please. Abraham never worship kaaba, he never kiss the black stone of kaaba and he never cycling the stone of kaaba.

AntiChristian:



This is a lie! Why do you have to tell lies like this? The Qur'an did not say this in that verse!
Qur'an 53:23
They are but names which you have named, you and your fathers, for which Allah has sent down no authority. They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire, whereas there has surely come to them the Guidance from their Lord!

Quran 53:19-20 Abdul Hye

Do you -Meccans- see the idols Al Lat and Al 'Uzza you honour and revere and regard with extreme respect and devotion

and another idol (Manat of the pagan Arabs), the other 3rd (as the daughters of Allah)

Wait, since you've know me here on NL, would I say anything without evidence sha?

AntiChristian:



Where is that in the Qur'an? You are a liar bro! Abraham's father too was an Idolater too. How does that change anything?

Muhammad's late father was an idolater

Surah Al-Anbya 21:51-75


Anas reported: Verily, a person said: Messenger of Allah, where is my father? He said: (He) is in the Fire. When he turned away, he (the Holy Prophet) called him and said: Verily my father and your father are in the Fire.

Sahih Muslim 1:398

AntiChristian:



Truth or lies? You are one of the worst Christian liars here! How many other monikers do you have?

Shey na moniker we dey discuss?

We Christians here are exposing you and hammering your skull with the truths, all we are saying here has the proofs and evidences from your quran and hadith respectively

AntiChristian:


Jehovah, Yahweh and Jesus as a name were created some few centuries back! It seems you can't deny the creation of those words!

Has anyone, idol or image share the name Jehovah with Almighty God as allah your Islamic god share his name with Muhammad's pagan father?

AntiChristian:


I know you will never read the attachment! Holly spirit won't let you see it to read! Bowing down to honor is dubious to be translated as worship by your Bible translators!

Sebi you can use dictionary, check for the meaning of ADORATION..

Bible says in Mat 2:2

Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Bible used the word WORSHIP and not BOW, bobo shey you no get a copy of Bible inside your mosque again nii abi you need an interpreter?

AntiChristian:


You're being deceived as many humans bow down to other human in your Bible as shown in the attachment! And it wasn't translated as worship unless Jesus is involved in the narrative!

A Case Study of Jesus Christ in the manger according to the word of God (Bible) used the word WORSHIP and NOT BOW DOWN..

Anyone bowing down for an image, a stone like kaaba, etc is nothing but AN IDOL WORSHIPER LIKE YOU MUSLIMS

To buttress your point, check for the meaning of these words boya you will understand what Bible is saying; WORSHIP (Adoration) and BOW

AntiChristian:


When Jesus bowed down to his father in Matthew it was not translated as worship too as small God worshipping big God!

Worship in adoration and Bow are two different words bobo yii.. Make dictionary your friend if you don't understand what the word of God is saying in Matthew 2:2

AntiChristian:


The verses you quoted is a prove of your lies! Open that verse and give the next three verses and your lie is exposed!

Does the next three verses of your Quran kicked against Al Lat, Al Uzza and Al manat as daughters of allah? Or why are these three female goddess of pre-islamic Arabia sharing their names with your Islamic god, allah?

Quran 53:20

and another idol (Manat of the pagan Arabs), the other 3rd (as the daughters of Allah)

AntiChristian:


Your second lie was that Allah was ever used to represent an idol!

Muhammad's late father Abd Allah bin Al-Muttalib a pagan in pre-islamic Arabia was an idol worshipper that share his name with your Islamic god allah

Also, I am not the author of your glorious quran where it is written that Al-lat, Al-Uzza and Al-Manat the three female goddess in pre-islamic Arabia are daughters of allah

AntiChristian:


If Allah was used as such then why did the idolaters reject becoming Muslims and worshipping only Allah?

Muhammad's late father Abd Allah bin Al-Muttalib was an idolater, did he rejected becoming a Muslim since Adam was the first Muslim according to your Quran?

AntiChristian:


You guys just call yourself Christians yet you keep telling brazen lies and spreading it all around!

We are exposing you and hammering your skull with the truths, all we are saying here has the proofs and evidences from your quran and hadith respectively

AntiChristian:
It was "Yahweh" and "Jehovah" that was invented a couple of centuries ago!

Jehovah revealed himself to us that he is Jehovah, no one or an idol as ever bear that name Jehovah while your allah was invented on you by muhammad through his pagan father


Isaiah 42:8

I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images.

AntiChristian:

Who worshipped Jesus? Lies from the pit of hell! It was just a prostration of homage according to the meaning of the word translated to "worship" and even the context!

Matt.2

[1] Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
[2] Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

If it was just a prostration, what did you understand by the word then? Can you prostate without not stretching your face out in adoration? ADORATION HERE MEANS TO WORSHIP

AntiChristian:

Read and do not be ignorant!

Hubal (Arabic: هُبَل‎) was a god worshipped in pre-Islamic Arabia, notably by Quraysh at the Kaaba in Mecca. Muhammad's Allah is actually Hubal, i.e. the Baal of the Moabites.

The daughters of Hubal i.e. Allat, al-ʿUzza and Manat, the three female goddess of pre-Islamic Arabia, are mentioned in the Qur'an.

Quran 53:19-20

Do you -Meccans- see the idols Al Lat and Al 'Uzza you honour and revere and regard with extreme respect and devotion

and another idol (Manat of the pagan Arabs), the other 3rd (as the daughters of Allah)

Hubal was originally the proper name of Allah in Makkah... Allah was always a proper name in the Arabic sources and not a common noun, Allah was the title used within each tribe in Pre-islamic Arabia to address tribal deity instead of its proper name and that Allah became the Islamic substitute for the name of any idol.

Hubal's known presence in the Kaʿbah, there is no polemic in the Qur'an against him. In other words, while the Qur'an railed against Allat, Manat, and al-ʿUzza, whom the pagan Arabs referred to as the "daughters of Allah", it stopped short of attacking

The pre-islamic pagan Arabs worship many gods including Allah/Hubal. The pre-islamic Arabs in which Muhammad's late father Abd Allah bin Al-Muttalib was one of them knew Allah before muhammad brought Islam. Allah the name of an idol was adopted as the unique name of your Islamic god

Tell your fellow unfortunate human beings to stop disturbing Christians threads..

See dem deleting reasonable posts, many many dey ground.. Delete one, expect hundred in return

Gbo19:
In short, we should pray for more calamities and disasters. Mad people everywhere.
To the OP, may calamities and disasters never stop happening to you. It is not a curse ooo, I am just wishing you lots of "Allah's Love"

Very funny oo

AntiChristian:

We different in that we obey and worship Allah alone!



Na una dey worship Mary and her son!

You must obey allah that was invented on you by Muhammad through his idol worshipper's father Abd Allah bin Al-Muttalib

Na who dey worship Mary? We worship Jesus Christ whom the three Wiseman worshiped right from birth

SU50:


.بدا السلام غريبا وسعود غريبا فطوبي للغرباء او كما قال ابا القاسم صلي الله عليه وسلم

Give us the Chinese version of it

And one old man is coming with Muslim-Muslim ticket

Followers of muhammad don't even know what to say again

See the life of muhammad, chaii

The truth about Islam is that,

With all these agents of death working for allah, is islam really for peace? NO

Let me just drop this to know your fate

AntiChristian:


Woah! This thread made me love the Islamic paradise more! No be only to shout halleluyah yet believing Angels came to have sex on earth when sex isn't available in heaven! The God that created joysticks and spermatozoa for his sons in Genesis 6:1-4 to be able to impregnate humans can't give humans virgins in heaven!

Moreso in Numbers 31:40, God got a share of virgins from war booty!

O Allah! Grant me the best of Jannah and the best in this duniya! Aamin.

Is ur "gbola" ready to fucck many virgins in jannah of allah's sex garden?

It shall never be well with any Christian that will vote APC come 2023 presidential election

Maghan37:
I can see you obviously have inherent hatred for Muslims. There is no need arguing with xenophobic people like you. The same LRA you are talking about operates in Sudan, Uganda, Central African Republic and DRC and their agenda (though you are seriously lacking in objectivity to notice) thus not change the fact that the founder views himself in terms associated with Christianity just like the way Muslim terrorist group use islamic symbols if you had objectivity you will know that any religion can be used to justify negativity. You may as well read about the Borgia from Italy.

The question is are they fighting for Jesus Christ and Christianity? Why is this question difficult for allah to answer through you?

Maghan37:
You are sentimental and have double standard. Joseph Kony the founder of the LRA claims to be the manifestations of the Holy Spirit on earth. The use of the holy spirit definitely makes them a christian Terrorist group. Word of advice learn to appraise yourself without sentiments before you judge others. I will not exchange words with you any longer considering the fact that you have proven to be very short sighted in your views. If it is based on behaviour, there are no religious organisations that are have all good or bad people. Live and let live. At the end of the day we all want to live peacefully and comfortably in this world. The KKK burns the cross to signal a gathering. The cross is a Christian symbol. FYI they also justify their actions using bible verses.

Taqqiya slave, it is in your blood to always lie for allah but wait, is there any reward for you lying to defend Islam?

LRA's objectives are:

1. To fight for the immediate restoration of competitive multi-party democracy in Uganda.

2. To see an end to gross violation of human rights and dignity of Ugandans.

3. To ensure the restoration of peace and security in Uganda.

4. To ensure unity, sovereignty, and economic prosperity beneficial to all Ugandans.

5. To bring to an end to the repressive policy of deliberate marginalization of groups of people who may not agree with the National Resistance Army's ideology.


Do you see them fighting for Jesus Christ or Christianity? Abeg taqqiya slave, stop lying for allah here sogbo



So on the KKK, you can't differentiate between supremacist terrorist and religion terrorist right? We are mobilizing you Muslims here on nairaland back to Nursery 2 in Montessori school, just drop your details in full

yetunsbay:
Reading and in-depth Understanding are two different things.

But bia, why is ur life so centred around Islam ?


Do you really get better things to do ?


Whether you comprehend or not. The only true religion (Islam) send you not. So continue the rant Oga.

The same way your fellow slaves lives are so centred around Christianity

Ask your fellow slaves especially the Chief slave here on nairaland, AntiChristian if he really get better thing to do

Do you need English teacher to explain what this your ahadith is telling you about Islam?

This is English language and not Arabic, we are sending you back to Nursery 2

Maghan37:
So do the LRA, KKK and other such groups use the bible so stop deceiving yourself. All religious books can be twisted for selfish reasons. Try to be less myopic and try more objectivity.

So LRA you mentioned above are fighting for Jesus Christ right or according to your alfa they are fighting for Christianity?

Let me expose your lies on KKK likewise, the KKK or the Klan, is an American white supremacist terrorist and hate group whose primary targets are African Americans, Jews, Latinos, Asian Americans, Catholics, and Native Americans as well as immigrants, leftists, homosexuals, Muslims, and atheists

Can you please come with another taqqiya let me expose you as usual

Jamodeen95:


Lol. From your moniker alone, I already know your pointless direction...

Are you saying muhammad in his sunnah gave you pointless direction, do you know islam more than muhammad that asked you not to fast on Friday?

yetunsbay:
Baba, seize the barking. Islam will forever make you get sleepless nights.

Continue being frustrated shey na your alfa tell you say islam will last forever? Let me expose you again while truth will make you uncomfortable

The day of sacrifice of animals to the god of islam

OBALOLA55:


WHEN YOU ASSOCIATE PARTNERS WITH GOD SUCH AS CALLING CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

Why didn't you said Gods? Sense has eluded you tete shey you know

Secondly, who are the associates of allah when he was using WE, OUR, US, etc to personalized himself? And why did he sent Jibril to muhammad in cave if at all your Islamic god has no associates of partners?

Next time pls stop reason from your anus before saying nonsense here sogbo

OBALOLA55:


WHEN YOU CALL HOLY MARY THE MOTHER OF GOD

Where did you read that in the Bible? Borrow sense nau

OBALOLA55:



WHEN YOU MOULD A GOLDEN CALF AND STARTS WORSHIPPING IT

Who does that, are you different from them?

You circling, kiss, worship and bow for the shrine and black stone of kaaba, isn't it? Are you different from those that are worshipping moulded golden calf?

OBALOLA55:


WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR WHINE AND POUR IT ON THE GROUND INSTEAD OF CALLING THE NAME OF GOD

Who still does that, your bloody allah derived pleasure in animal's blood, you must sacrifice millions of animals to allah every year, is allah different from god of iron (ogun) ??

Narrated 'Aishah:

That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "A human does no action from the actions on the day of Nahr more beloved to Allah then spilling blood (of sacrificial animals). On the Day of Judgement, it will appear with its horns, and hair, and hooves, and indeed the blood will be accepted by Allah from where it is received before it even falls upon earth, so let your heart delight in it."

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1493

OBALOLA55:


GET SENSE BRUH

Relax I will reset your brain and aswear you'll be fine

OBALOLA55:
THE FOOLISH IDIOTS ARE NOT EVEN AWARE THAT EVEN CHRIST TESTIFIED THAT GOD IS ONE WHEN HE SAID TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, ‘HEAR O ISRAEL, THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE


CHOOSE YE TODAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE, AS FOR ME AND MY FAMILY, WE WILL SERVE THE LIVING GOD- PROPHET JOSHUA

Shebi you go school, can you differentiate between God and Gods and show me where it's written in Bible that Christians are serving Gods