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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051128/ap_on_go_co/congressman_s_house Calif. Congressman Admits Taking Bribes By ELLIOT SPAGAT, Associated Press Writer 5 minutes ago SAN DIEGO - Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham pleaded guilty Monday to conspiracy and tax charges and tearfully resigned from office, admitting he took $2.4 million in bribes to steer defense contracts to conspirators. ADVERTISEMENT [-78160] Cunningham, 63, entered pleas in U.S. District Court to charges of conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud and wire fraud, and tax evasion for underreporting his income in 2004. Cunningham answered "yes, Your Honor" when asked by U.S. District Judge Larry Burns if he had accepted bribes from someone in exchange for his performance of official duties. Later, at a news conference, he wiped away tears as he announced his resignation. "I can't undo what I have done but I can atone," he said. Cunningham, an eight-term Republican congressman, had already announced in July that he would not seek re-election next year. House Ethics rules say that any lawmaker convicted of a felony no longer should vote or participate in committee work. Under Republican caucus rules, Cunningham also would have lost his chairmanship of the House Intelligence subcommittee on terrorism and human intelligence. The former Vietnam War flying ace was known on Capitol Hill for his interest in defense issues and his occasional temperamental outbursts. After the hearing, Cunningham was taken away for fingerprinting and released on his own recognizance until a Feb. 27 sentencing hearing. He could receive up to 10 years in prison. He also agreed to forfeit to the government his Rancho Santa Fe home, more than $1.8 million in cash and antiques and rugs. In a statement, prosecutors said Cunningham admitted to receiving at least $2.4 million in bribes paid to him by several conspirators through a variety of methods, including checks totaling over $1 million, cash, rugs, antiques, furniture, yacht club fees and vacations. "He did the worst thing an elected official can do — he enriched himself through his position and violated the trust of those who put him there," U.S. Attorney Carol Lam said. The statement did not identify the conspirators. The case began when authorities started investigating whether Cunningham and his wife, Nancy, used the proceeds from the $1,675,000 sale to defense contractor Mitchell Wade to buy the $2.55 million mansion in Rancho Santa Fe. Wade put the Del Mar house back on the market and sold it after nearly a year for $975,000 — a loss of $700,000. He drew little notice outside his San Diego-area district before the San Diego Union-Tribune reported last June that he'd sold the home to Wade. Cunningham's pleas came amid a series of GOP scandals. Rep. Tom DeLay of Texas had to step down as majority leader after he was indicted in a campaign finance case; a stock sale by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is being looked at by regulators; and Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff was indicted in the CIA leak case. ************************************************************************* Can't wait to see the fallout from this one... hmmmm, maybe i should have put this in the journal.... |
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I just found this email in my inbox. Its a couple of days old and i decided to post it here, since I think it is relevant to the discussion. Lean manufacturing is definately something that needs to be addressed. Yeah, the japanese had massive amerikan funding, but they also developed "kaizen". I am not enough of an expert to explain kaizen, but it is kinda like, uh... I don't know, industrial chi or manufacturing bushido or something. Cut waste, defects, and inefficiancy in the factory to 0. In short, they did everything they could to master all aspects of efficient production. Anyway, read the email and try to attend the free web seminar. ********************************************************************** Dear S, I started studying manufacturing performance 26 years ago this fall. We set out at MIT to perform the most exhaustive and accurate benchmarking of the world’s largest manufacturing industry – motor vehicles – because we believed this was the best proxy for manufacturing in general and believed that a sea change in manufacturing practice was occurring. When I look back on the past 26 years, I see what many members of the Lean Community with shorter careers may not. We have made terrific progress in improving design, production, and supplier management processes. As a result, defects in new vehicles and problems encountered over many years of use have fallen steadily. At the same time, the real, inflation-adjusted cost to the consumer of a given bundle of vehicle attributes has fallen year after year. These gains are not due to scale economies as in the age of mass production. They have occurred despite falling annual production volume per vehicle and shorter product lives as the auto industry has offered an ever growing variety of fresh models and options. Even better, this triple win for the consumer -- better quality at lower cost with more variety -- has steadily spread across manufacturing in all sectors. In short, the world had gotten a lot better at making things in the past quarter century and there is every reason to think this will continue as we all learn more about lean process management. However, when I contrast the brilliant manufactured goods all around us with the success we have as consumers in fully solving our consumption problems, the picture is much less bright. My goods are now a lot better than my consumer experience in solving problems ranging from shelter to mobility to healthcare to communication. I find myself in constant struggles with providers ranging from my car dealer to my health maintenance organization to retailers to airlines as I try to get all the goods and services in my busy life to work together to solve my problems with no hassle and at reasonable cost. In short, we are now in the age of lean production but are still stuck in the age of mass consumption and mass provision. As Dan Jones and I thought about this issue as process thinkers it naturally occurred to us that the way ahead must center on better processes. After all, both consumption and provision of the goods and services we need are processes – complex sequences of interlocked steps that consumer and provider must perform. Indeed, we soon realized that the type of lean process thinking we have all become accustomed to in manufacturing has rarely been applied to the great majority of activities in our lives. Because 80% or more of what goes on in advanced economies is in the service and government sectors rather than in manufacturing, this suggests that there is a truly big opportunity to make all of our lives better if we can simply transfer the lean process knowledge of the factory to the rest of the economy. Dan and I have now completed our effort to do this in our new book, Lean Solutions, and we would like to summarize our findings for the Lean Community. I am, therefore, conducting the first LEI webinar at 2:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern Standard Time on November 15. Due to the rapid leaps in web technology delivered through our PCs (a great case of brilliant products connected and supported with lousy services), we can accommodate all members of our Community who wish to attend. Because this is a small payback to the Community for the great support LEI has received over the past eight years, the one-hour online event is free. I will lead off with a slide show describing the principles of lean consumption and lean provision, which together can create lean solutions that benefit consumers, providers, and manufacturers. And I will give some great examples of firms who are closing the enormous gap between the consumer and the factory. We will then have a question-and-answer session during which you can email in your questions and I will try to answer them in real time. I’m truly excited about the potential of lean consumption and lean provision to join lean production in making all of our lives better, not just as consumers but as providers and as manufacturers. I hope you will join me for the first LEI webinar on November 15 by going to www.lean.org to sign up. Best regards, Jim Jim Womack President and Founder Lean Enterprise Institute Feel free to forward this message to suppliers, customers, or colleagues who are implementing lean - or should be. If this e-letter was forwarded to you, visit http://www.lean.org to subscribe. Use "Member Sign-up" at the bottom right corner of the homepage to get a free subscription and gain immediate access to all the valuable content on the LEI web site about implementing lean. ******************************************************************* As you can probably tell, i know next to nothing about manufacturing or industrial engineering. I'll learn, though. We all will. I will try to record the seminar audio for any that may want it. Peace |
Greetings all... I hope that the thread has not been spoiled by the dialogue between nferyn and myself. That's just real talk and it's very important to have honest, penatrating, relevant dialogue to address the issues that are affecting our lives and the lives of our children and their children. I am still very eager to hear ideas and solutions from anybody regarding how we can make the nations of Africa equal to any nation on the planet. I would like to hear anyone's ideas on what Africans and so called African Americans (and I really hate that term, but for the sake of simplicity..) should do to hold our leaders accountable for all the woes we have. As far as us in america, the tragedy that took place after the hurricane in New Orleans should have been enough to show the world that things are not as rosy over here as the rulers would like for you think. I think it was Brazil, maybe two years ago, when there was massive civil unrest and dissatifaction amoungst citizens towards the leaders there. The people began to carry out physically harmless humilation campaigns against the leaders. They were heckled whenever they went to restaurants, stores, etc. I think some even got pelted with tomatos. I think things are better, now . Do we have to humiliate our leaders into action? I don't think they are all traitors (gawd, I hope not), I just think they have that old school mentality that does nothing to promote out the box and dynamic thinking, just promotes complacentcy and that "just wait and Pray for them" mentality. Over here, most of the leaders are from that "integration" generation. ...Yeeeaaahhhh, that could be part of the problem... But, really, what can you say? I know many leaders on the Continent are educated in Europe. Could that be bad? Is it bad that most of us go to school with other nationalities and cultures. Does it make us complacent? I think only if we lost track of the reality and facts of the matter and fall prey to the dream of multiculturalism and diversification when we know for a fact that home is in shambles. I think the youth have to take a proactive stance in creating the future we want for each other and our people. The only things that will keep us from creating a new world where everybody can live in peace, is own lack of discipline and ignorance. I am of the conviction that we need to start planning now. I would love to hear everybody's ideas on how We can make Africa the envy of the world. If you are shy, Pm or email me and I will post your ideas for (although I don't think that is a problem for Nigerians ).Let's just do the damn thang. ![]() |
@joftech You're probably in a much better postion to know that than I am. ![]() |
Hmmmm.... Good point, Seun. I don't see the flying cars like Star Wars and Fifth Element. I see much better mass transit systems, that are maybe "freer" because of no tracks. I think future study of string theory and Prof. Oyibo's GAGUT will soon open to door to the mathamatical internals of gravity allowing us to create artificial gravity. The work has already been achived to an extent when some researchers used magnetic fields to levitate a small live frog. I think they were at a university in Utah. I think antigrav will open the way to much more efficient VTOL applications, leading to more efficient and economical regional travel. What do you guys think? I don't know; maybe family space shuttles instead of just a small car... kind of like a space yact? ![]() Also, in regards to transportation infracture on the Continent, how economical are mag-lev trains used on a large scale. The snags I run into are how do protect the animals and passangers; ie. animal crossing tracks, tracks that have to cut through migration trails, etc, etc. I see too many additional cost associated with fences, raised rail ways. Just some ideas I have.... Hmmm, just thought of something. Would it be easier to sail in the ocean or over the ocean with anti-grav. No flying cars, well maybe for the rich, but yes to floating bus-like, yacth things. ![]() |
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nferyn:Everything I said has been concrete. I am being honest and tranparent. I'm attacking the issues I feel are important. If you don't think they are important (its quite apparent that you don't, because after you answered my perfectly legitimate question, you said: "But to get concrete again..." , then one could assume, whether correctly or incorrectly, that you don't place as much emphesis on Europeans getting off their a$$ to change their perceptions and behaviors than you do on Africans doing the same... That may not be the case, but you created that image when you said "But to get concrete, again...". Of course, I could be wrong. Just my thoughts on the subject...nferyn:. Well, duuuhhhh! I know I didn't say anything about "using inherited racial characteristics as a basis to explain different levels of development". In addition, I know that the fact that the so called first world got their wealth not from hard work but from the wanton rape and destruction of the so called "developing world" (which was already developed, I might add here), including our collective people, but including indegious people around the planet. Therefore, to be on par means to be able to compete with and defend ourselves effectively from "1st world" or "western" agression, whether it be in an economic, political, or military in nature is not "a crap racist argument". Therefore, I'll pose the question again, with different wording this time: Where, in any of the first 13 posts, did you see anybody, say anything about race or racism? What did you see in those 13 posts that would make you want to state or quote anything about or from Jared Diamond? Let us know. We want to know what is so important about anything Jared Diamond has to say regarding African Problems. Inform us as to why you felt it was important to interject... "This thread made me think again about another one I started. An eloquent and in my opinon true explanation of the inequalities in the world is available in the book Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond. My offer for the free audiobook is still open. Please have a look at the thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-2173.0.html The book brilliantly counters all kinds of crap racist arguments that float around. A must read.(or at least listen)" ...when nobody said anything about race. Thats a fact. Nobody said anything about race. I stated historical fact, not a theory, but an actual reality that many millions, indeed billions of people experienced right here on this planet. So... What on Earth were you talking about? nferyn:What can I say? I have a very low tolerance for bu11shit. It's quite obvious that he is an agent promoting diversion and division. There are many over here doing the same. Some do it willingly or consciously, some do it unwillingly and unconsciously. For even posting that specfic quote, one can assume that you too are promoting diversion and division. That is what I mean by deploying divide and conquer tactics. I am against division of African People, no matter where they are in the world, over sillyness, shallowness, and technicalities. We are stronger if we stand together, especially in the current tread of globalism. I am for Unity of African Peoples, period. That really is all you need to know. In fact, that is all I'm going to tell you. No doubt, you will see me illustrate and articulate my views in future posting on this outstanding forum. But I will not sit here and outline my views, opinions, and/or anything else of value to Africa to you, specifically, just because you ask me too. I will, however, be at least civil to you. I am, after all a guest here. Futhermore, you have great "scholars" like Mr Ayitty to find out what is on the mind of black Amerikkkans, so therefore what does it matter what I think? Even more so, you can go to the amerikkkan-bred "leaders" like Mr. Sharpton, Mr. Jackson, and "Min." Farrakhan to find out anything else you need to know about African Amerikkkans, my Belgien friend. I would also implore Mr. Ayitty to ask Farrakhan, personally, as to why he has yet to issue a statement denouncing the atrocites committed by "Arabized" Africans on other Africans. Just tell him not to hold his breath waiting for a reply. I wouldn't advise you to hold yours, either, while your waiting. To sum up, anything that divides Africans is death. It doesn't matter the source. If it divides and distracts Africans from the singular issues that affect them, then it is confusion and death. Ah, what's next? nferyn: anton:The bold and italics are about as clear as i can get on the issue. If you still fail to understand, then what can I say? Too bad? nferyn:I must apologize. When I said anybody, I was speaking to my People. I should have clarified by saying "If any African wants to know what's in my head, then they should ask". I apologize. You, as a person of European descent, are not the reason I am here. I can go to the apartment right under me to talk to just any European. I am sure that that will ruffle the feathers of a few people here, but hopefully there are those who will understand why I take that position and agree with me. I am here to talk to, build with, and learn from my People. As time goes on, everybody who needs to and desires to see where I stand well have full understanding of where I stand. As the master teacher, John Henrik Clark, has said "Africa, now, stands at the crossroads of history." We WILL solve our problems. It WILL be done in THIS generation. How is what the African Masses all over this planet has to think about and discuss now. nferyn:What is the definition of tribalism? What is your definition? What is your friend Ayitty's defintion of tribalism? Then, I would like to hear some other viewers of the post definition and opinion if they choose to give it. Only then will I speak about the definition of tribalism. A sovereign nation (Hausa, Igbo, Fulani, Yoruba) can only be expected to conduct itself in a nationalistic manner within whatever artificial boundries they are forced into. Africans have grown to be very sophisticated in the last century. I can only hope that others committed to change can see what I see. So, yes, it's a problem that African People on Continent will have to fix, but I can't see any bloodless alternatives that don't take into account addressing the artificial boundries themselves. I see it like forcing rats in a maze with only a limited allotment of consumable resources. Eventually, the bigger rats will begin to impose their will on the smaller weaker rats. Sometimes, it's not an issue of who is bigger, but rather who is more willing to do whatever it takes to be in power, regardless of the pain caused. The same phenomemon goes on everyday in the ghettoes of Niggerville, USA; and other slums in Africa, and around the world, also other points in time. People forced into deplorable conditions, limited amount of work/resources, eventually someone will resort to using war to control the limited resources, getting political/material backing from those who created the situation to begin with, thereby creating further illigetimacy on top of the original illigetimacy. However, it is common for us to not look to those who forced us into the conditions, or those who are backing/supplying the perveyors of violence against our own people only each other in hate and distrust. Over here, people say "Look at the gun violence!" and "Look at the drugs!" "Why are the young black men dropping ut of school?" Few indeed, ask "Who makes the guns?" and "How are the drugs getting in the country?" "What's wrong with the school?" It In other words, it is much less likely that the rats will say "F*** the maze!" to each other instead of saying "F*** you!" to each other. It is much less likely that they will say "Who made this maze? How did we get to be in this maze? Let's find a way to break the maze." nferyn:(Just to get back on track...) I never denied the impact of it [tribalism]. I was commenting on how you, as a European are here harping on the actions of Africans instead of presenting information, data, and knowledge that would be benefitual to Africans on the past, present, and future actions of Europeans in regards to repairing the problem Europeans created. "Bad leadership?" Isn't that an oxymoron? Bad leadership is not leadership. You are either doing what you are supposed to do as a leader or you are not. You are either operating at a continuous 110% percent in benefit of your people and fighting the enemies of your people, or you are not. You are either addressing the chronic issues with strategic analysis and dynamic solutions or you are not. There are many people in charge who are not leaders. There are many people in charge who are traitors. Of course, forums such this are inappropriate for anybody discuss the penalties for such deeds. Also, I can not say too much about internal affairs on the Continent because I don't have first hand intelligence on the matter. Again one of the reason, I am here. But that's definately the case over here. Being on TV all the time does not make you a leader. That makes you an entertainer. You may be in charge, but are you for the people or fro yourself? I would like to get some African opinions on the root causes of corruption and some ways to eliminate it to get back into solution mode . I think accountability is one of the issues that has to be stressed. If it happened under your watch, then you must be held accountable for it... Just an idea... nferyn:Thank you, I will look into that. What are all the steps that that would entail? Who in Europe stands to lose if the Common Agricultural Policy is eliminated and, if you know, how much will they lose in the process? What changes would the common European have to deal accept? Is there anything else you think European governments and people should do? |
From what i have read of Ayitty (from his postings on various online mediums and this passage) it clear, to me at least, that one could compare him to a Clarance Thomas, Armstrong Williams, and Thomas Sowell. These individuals are not servants of the African people. They are, judging from their actions, anti-black and anti-African. A term I use to describe individuals such as them is "Africidal", which is a play of the noun Africa, and the suffix -cidal, which means: 1) of a killer or killing and 2) that can kill. So, someone who is Africidal is one who is in the act of killing Africa. I have also heard Nigerians dismiss him as silly and nonrelevant. If anybody wants to know what is in my head regarding the geo-political structure of the planet, then they should ask. One of the reasons I am here is to get first hand intelligence of the situation. That being said, I am also quite able to analyse world history and come to conclusion as to what is the problem. I will also tell any African anything I have knowledge of about my experience here. There is alot of confusion in the mix. Now, I will admit that he [Ayitty] is describing so called black leadership to a key. Of course, the so called black leadership in america is in no place say that they speak for anybody but themselves, if that. So overall, very clever on your behalf, but Ayitty has no idea what is in my head or the Elders at whose feet I sit. Let me apologize if you feel uncomfortable when I use the term European. I don't mean you, persay, every single time, but I understand if you could have taken every statement as personal. But surely you can understand that I feel it would greatly benefit the dialogue if you, as a European, express some of the things that you feel Europe and Europeans could do to correct some of the problems they created (in regards to Africa), instead of quoting ideas and theories about the African's role in The African Problem. Would I be incorrect in asking that? Alos, let's get back to this issue right here, since this is the starting point of the ongoing confusion in the dialogue. Quote from: anton on Today at 07:55:04 PM[i] One can only conclude logically that you were ascribing my statement that "the"1st world" got their wealth not from hard work but from the wanton rape and destruction of the so called "developing world", including our collective people, but including indegious people around the planet. Therefore, to be on par means to be able to compete with and defend ourselves effectively from "1st world" or "western" agression, whether it be in an economic, political, or military in nature." as a 'crap racist argument'. Am I right, because I could be wrong? You are wrong. You have not understood what I was implying when I was making that statement. The crap racist argument referred to using inherited racial characteristics as a basis to explain different levels of development. That is a crap racist argumentt. There is no biological basis for race, you could just as well use short and tall as racial determinants, it would be just as useless. Race is just a sociological construct, used as vehicle and justification for oppression[/i] Where, in the posts above my second post, did anyone say anything about "using inherited racial characteristics as a basis to explain different levels of development"? |
nferyn qoute You don't need to look at the Native Americans for examples of effective societal organisations. There are plenty of examples thereof in pre colonial Africa. It's quite apparent that you did not understand the premise of my argument against the term "tribalism". Or maybe you did, but you are attempting to add further confusion. I thought that my explaination for using Native American organizations as an example was adequately explained with the following quote: I'm not on the Continent (not yet, anyway Grin), but I can tell you about this land over here. Europeans are eager to downplay other people's systems. I could be wrong, of course. nerfyn qoute You don't need to look at the Native Americans for examples of effective societal organisations. There are plenty of examples thereof in pre colonial Africa. The Kingdom of Benin (where my wife is from) is an excellent example. Of course, there were. It should be obvious to all who are reading that I never said there was not. Lets's get to the marrow of this matter. This merry-go-round is unproductive. True, Africans have many internal problems that need to be solved amoungst each other. But the bickering will go nowhere until the total problem is assessed in its entirety. That includes an honest assessment of past events that have created present conditions. True, Africans the world over, when one assesses the totality of our experience, have several symtomatic problems that stem from the past interreaction with Europeans. It would be unfair and one sided to even attempt to attribute all African problems to African people. One can only conclude logically that you were ascribing my statement that "the"1st world" got their wealth not from hard work but from the wanton rape and destruction of the so called "developing world", including our collective people, but including indegious people around the planet. Therefore, to be on par means to be able to compete with and defend ourselves effectively from "1st world" or "western" agression, whether it be in an economic, political, or military in nature." as a 'crap racist argument'. Am I right, because I could be wrong? anton qoute: We have to look at the economics and who are controlling the economics. Follow the money. For instance, the African people of South Africa have political control of the country, but who controls the wealth of the nation? There are very sophisticated arguments being put forth by people who don't want us to look at the root problems of the matter. These arguments are designed to create guilt and shame in Africans to get you reacting on an emotional level, instead of thinking logically. To be quite frank and totally honest, it was not for you to understand. I don't mean to be discourtious, but Belgium and Europe has achieved greatness. Now, it is time for Nigeria and Africa to achieve greatness. The specific exploitation of Africa and her people is an actual reality. For you to even pretend to understand the dynamics of oppression from the viewpoint of an oppressed individual is a mockery. To even hint that the experience of a Jamaican, American, Columbian, Nigerian, or Australian Black Man is somehow unconnected is laughable, ludacris even. To make an attempt to say that the experience of Black Women in Belgium, Sierra Leone, Canada, or the U.K. doesn't have anything in common or are unconnected goes a long way to show exactly where you stand. I believe that the tactic is called 'Divide and Conquer". The bottom line is it will it be done within this generation. A lot of people will have to take responsibility for our individual and collective actions. So called leaders will have to be held accountable, and a lot of eurocentric nonsense will have to be thrown out the window and burned in the open for all to see it for the nonsense that it is. I'm not here to bash Africans or Europeans, but we have to start thinking intelligently about this problem if we want to find the solution before another Angola War, Rawanda, or Biafra. That's a fact. |
I just want to shoot this in right quick and I'll reply in more detail latter today. You know, I am not a big fan of the term "tribalism". I'm not on the Continent (not yet, anyway ), but I can tell you about this land over here. Europeans are eager to downplay other people's systems. Look the people who were already here: The Cherokee, the Souix, the Navajo, Washita, the Inuit, the Taino, etc, etc. Let's look at the facts. These were not "tribes". These were nations. They had they own judicial systems, economic systems, political systems, customs, and cosmological and cosmogonical structures. The tribe terminology was put in place to further reinforce the illusion of it being "OK" for them to be exterminated because they are just savages. As a matter of fact, many of the political ideas of the Iroquois Confederation (which comprised the Seneca, Tuscororas, and Mohawk to name a few) were used in the creation of either the Declaration of Indepence or the Constitution, (maybe both...).If you want to address this tribalism, then you have to address who created the "boxing ring" of artificial boundries. You have to address the cunning that took three very powerful and advanced groups of people with highly sophisticated systems and set them against one another with a limited amount of resources. Once you identify who did this, and analyse their actions in the present, I believe a common ground can be found that can be used as a basis of commonality or unity. It is true, however, that Nigerians have to start loving Nigerians and Nigeria. Nigeria, as it stands, is integral to any Continental development. In order for Africa to Move Forward Africans will have to start loving Africans, Nigierians will have to start loving Nigerians, So called African americans will have to start loving other so called African american, so on and so forth. However, I feel it is very short sighted and shallow to say that "tribalism" is racism in any way or form, or that tribalism is the primary woe of the Continent. The political structures have to be redesigned by Africans according to African research, stemming from African ideas, as a result of Africans living in Africa. We have to look at the economics and who are controlling the economics. Follow the money. For instance, the African people of South Africa have political control of the country, but who controls the wealth of the nation? There are very sophisticated arguments being put forth by people who don't want us to look at the root problems of the matter. These arguments are designed to create guilt and shame in Africans to get you reacting on an emotional level, instead of thinking logically. Let's do this. 50 years, max. Let's attack the Problem with 1) intelligent, purposeful dialogue 2) honest identification of the problems 4) identification of available resources 3) strategic planning to implement dynamic and creative solutions |
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, friend! ![]() Let's look at the fact of the matter: I never said anything about racism until nferyn did, right? The book brilliantly counters all kinds of crap racist arguments that float around. A must read.(or at least listen) It was nferyn who said something about "racism", first. Therefore who is tossing in distraction grenades? Let's be honest with ourselves here! Tunku qoute: "I am afraid that economic parity with the west won't happen in my generation." This quote was why I put the focus on the "west", rather than the "1st world". Your original question said "first world" countries, but then you said west in the above qoute, so i went with it. tunku qoute: Sure racism does exist but I think that is actually less of a problem in africa than any where else in the world. throwing racisim into the issue is just distracting us from the question as to why have we had incompetent leaders who run our country with an iron dictatorship and concentrate wealth in the hands of the few. What would have to happen to implement systems to ensure the material, indeed total wealth of Africa is distributed to serve the needs of the people. You in maryland, i'm in nc, this not a pissing contest, let's meet in dc. If you ready to do work, then let's do work. Together. I'm not here because I have time to waste chatting or posting or whatever you call it. I'm here to network with committed Africans. It seems to me that the problem with Africans the world over is self-Hatred... 300 years? That makes me want to cuss, or spit, or vomit, or cry; i can't decide. Everybody got problems, but lets not be silly. Maybe the reason you think it's going to take 300 years is because you are unwilling to be honest with yourself. It doesn't matter if it was colonialism or chattel slavery/Jim Crow segregation or aparthied. We have got to be crazy to think that the residual effects of those experiences have... what? Disappeared in thin air! Let's be real. No problems are going to be solved if we don't be honest with ourselves about what we have experienced. Therefore, it's good to be inspired by other countries' rapid growth in the last half century, but none of them have experienced what we have. Let's be realistic about american tax dollars funding asian growth. Specifically, japan. That's a fact. I'm also extreamly concerned about foreign entities fermenting wars between Africans in order to get resources on the cheap, ie coltan and diamonds. Also, don't think that just because creatures like Botha are not talking on TV, that they just disappeared...in thin air! So let's be honest. Let's attack the Problem with: 1) intelligent, purposeful dialogue 2) honest identification of the problems 4) identification of available resources 3) strategic planning to implement dynamic and creative solutions Let's just do the damn thang. 50 years, max. What needs to happen for Africans to feed Africans? What would you like to see implemented? How would you handle this corruption problem (in actuality, a traitor problem)? Let's not bitch and moan about how bad and backwards Africa is. Let's talk about how to move forward and produce justice for our people. What do you think about capitalism and socialism? Believe me, i am well aware of the growth of asian economies. The fact is we can do better. Let's talk Solution!!! *edit* any industrial engineers here, by the way? ![]() |
"When will Sub-Saharan Africa be on par with first world countries?" It can be done in 50 years, maximum. Should be sooner, but there are a lot of "snags"... It will depend greatly on how determined Africans are to be equal, indeed greater, than the so called "1st world". @nferyn Greetings, You should try to tune into Counter-Racism Radio to get an overview of some of her theories, in lieu of having the text. The lectures that play 24 hrs a day will do a much better job than me. Just click the yellow button to listen. If you're slick, you can use your media player to play the feeds... if not, just download the live365 player. Also, any bookstore can order it for you. If you have access to a barnes and noble, tell them to get it in stock for you. Racism is, unfortunately, one of the most serious problems we have on this planet as humans. I think it should be everybodies' responsibility to end the system of racism and replace it with a system of justice. That's just my opinion, however, and I can only work to do so in my own daily activities... |
To those interested, I would suggest reading The Isis Papers, by Dr. Francis Cress Welsing to get a thorough understanding of not only racists (white supremacists) but her theory of "Color Confrontation", amoung others. Futhermore, one can tune in here to listen to Counter-Racism Radio, on which Dr. Welsing is known to lecture: http://www.live365.com/stations/mr_vor If you have problems logging in, let me know and i can help you trouble shoot the problem. |
Tunku qoutes: "well it is not really a loaded question, Despite the huge wealth of natural resources that many African countries lay claim to, we are still largely dependent on the cash crop." "It would be nice if we weren't largely dependent on importing food from other countries but alas until we start addressing this issues." What needs to happen to change this, Tunku? What needs to happen before African countries start feeding other African countries in exchange for other services and industries? Who receives the profit from the cash crops? Maybe that is an issue that needs to be addressed. "How do Africans feed Africans?" What say you? I think it is a loaded question. Is it not true that the so called "1st world" got their wealth not from hard work but from the wanton rape and destruction of the so called "developing world", including our collective people, but including indegious people around the planet. Therefore, to be on par means to be able to compete with and defend ourselves effectively from "1st world" or "western" agression, whether it be in an economic, political, or military in nature. A peer of, in simpler terms. So, let me clarify. It's only a loaded question if you're asking it in order promote serious thought about the problem for the sole purpose of creating solutions for the sake of implementing the said solutions. If not... then i agree, it's just another rhetorical question... What say you? |
"When will Sub-Saharan Africa be on par with first world countries?" Wow, Tunku. That's loaded. What do you mean by "on par" and "first world"? I agree with joshjosh, the "so called 1st world" is nothing to praise for many reasons that should be quite apparent to all Africans. 1) I would pose the question for the readers to think about as to where the Japanese, and indeed much of the so called "1st world", get their raw materials to be the industrial power that they are. Obviously, they are not naturally endowed with a land that is abundant in material wealth. 2) Is the Continent of Africa prospering from it's material wealth, i.e. setting and getting the market value of the said resources? 3) Are the neccesary systems in place to ensure the material wealth of Africa is distributed to serve the needs of the people? 4) What would have to happen to implement systems to ensure the material wealth of Africa is distributed to serve the needs of the people. This, of course, focuses on only one aspect of the situation, but a major one, never the less. |
Yeah, it seems that way at times as i disconnect and reconnect to the matrix. You have to be very fluid. But, naw, i'll be here for a while. You never said what subject you were studying, Vexxy. ![]() Peace. |
Hey, Seun What did you need a sine wave inverter for? |
Wassup, Family Hey KennyG, you still there? Hmmm, guess i'll send him a pm with about his question unless someone wants me to write about Dr. York and political prisoners in general. Has anybody ever got emails speaking of ghost replies? I got a email saying a topic i replyed in got responded to. Whe i followed the link, no one had replyed to it. Interesting.You checked out those links, Vexxy? Holla! |
Diet, Diet, Diet... That is the most important thing to consider. In the countries of the 'West' all of this fatty junk 'food' is practically shoved down your throat. All of those artificial colors, flavors, preservatives, sugars, poly chain fats, create hay wire in the human body. Look at the obesity in american and uk. It's especially bad for young people because thier hormones react to the garbage they eat and create these out breaks. Look at the history, 30 yrs ago, you didn't find pimply teens and no obesity. Now there are more types of junk food than fruits and veggies!!! Also, think about what a whitehead is. Al large percentage of waste is passed thru the skin. Your skin is your first line of defense, so if you have eruptions on your skin (pus is dead white blood cells, poison and the invader cells) there is something going on internally. Rashes are usually an allergic reaction to something you ingested or came into contact with. Blackheads, also indicate internal problems. Leave the garbage factory 'food' alone and stick to friuts and veggies. I garauntee your acne will get better. You don't have to wait till your hormones change at 20 - 25, change your diet now to get the clear skin you want. I think i learned most of this in the book African Holistic Health, by Dr. Laila O. Africa. Leave those chemical alone! just Eat right! ![]() And use shea butter soap! All you need... Holla!!! |
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Well, reckon i'll put in my two cents... *nix is still a good animal... many powerful things today came from unix... yeah, i like linux, but i really like to study unix and the work done at bell labs... the creation of the C language... it's things like that that are truely powerful. How a body of research can produce so many tools 30yrs ago and the tools are still relevant... torvalds is alright, but he just gave regular civilians access to the features of one of the most powerful tools ever created in this age. Personally, i don't think we should be talking windows or linux or macOS. Who is to say that we don't need an OS tailored for, created for our needs. Built from scratch incorporating a new, as of yet undiscovered paradigm of software *cough, cough* engineering, in open source test beds, simple enough for amatuer dev, but powerful enough to control space craft... Too many of our people see themselves as mere extensions, yea extensions of western... whatever you call these... people for lack of a better word. Who is to say that some extreamly enterprising african won't decide to develop a total new paradigm of PC architecture? The Cell processor is on the horizon and will most likely shake things things up quite a bit. Current processor architecture was stalled by the heating problems, now the 'dual core' phase. Alot of this crap in affect is nothing more than interem technology made to generate profit. I'm sure you guys have seen the 'holo' memory cards capable of holding 30gigs. Only cost the a dollar each, but the writer will run you a cool... $12,000, i think I say if the african people need an OS, just download windoze and do what you do. If you can get some young kids and teach them linux before they touch windoze, then you got sonething going. A debate over which one is best is kinda pointless... Which one allows you to be the most productive? If we can get the youth involved with open source, though... That'll be something. Getting them invloved in the community of open source software development is powerful. But i think's it's silly to think multinational (read:white) corprations can give africa what she needs. Presently, we are all down, but what will the situation be in 20yrs, 50yrs? Where will the mulinational corp be then? Especially when we close the access to coltan or whatever the neccessary more-valuable-than-human-life-minera- esource is of the time. I agree with just about everything said, you too allonym. In the end, they just tools. Get 'em and use 'em. Yeah, i saw future in allonym's post and another earlier on and went tangent big time. bad attention span... Holla! ![]() |
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I hear you, Tobi From my analysis, it is foolish to wait for the 'creation of awareness'. I hate to use such strong language, but how long would such a thing take? Better yet, who is it that needs awareness? Furthermore, what is up with this 'trying to learn the nitty-gritty of the satellite'? What is this 'trying'? You don't think Nigerians are up to the task? Do you see the African People exploring space independent of these other people? Also, what is so 'nitty gritty' about the process? It is exactly that, a process. I think the problem is we got so many problems concerning with food water and shelter that we have an inability to focus on the strategic future of our people. If we develope industries like this on the continent, it'll go a long way towards improving and empowering the African people. To be honest that is a goal of mine. However, i can't find any evidence that suggests we have the luxery of time on our side. I agree with you, but what i'm saying is don't get complacent with purchasing technology that can be fabricated, at the lowest level, in-house, and at the highest level, in tangent with other African nations by way of strategic technological and industrial partnerships. Yes, use the technology to it's fullest, but at the same time push to develope those specific prerequisite technologies at home. To be frank, we don't have a clue as to what 'spin off' technology will be developed when (not if) we began exercising the African technical mind. Who is say that we won't develope a totally different paradigm from western civilization. So, when we began to accept that the russians, americans, and chinese (who we really can't say much about, yet) are doing it right, we immediately say that we are not worthy of the task. I don't like to see this force feeding of African nations by the same people who are responsible (whether directly or indirectly) for the problems of the African people. True, African Nations do need the tech, but as soon as funds are earmarked for a major purchase like this, an equal amount needs to be set aside to promote total understanding of the technology purchased. One thing about purchases of this nature is that you can't really reverse engineer them once their life span is depleted. They drift away or burn up in the atmosphere. I'll post some links and stories i've collected in the past about space vehicles. So for the most part, i hear what your saying, but we need a totally dynamic and unheard of approach to our future strategic presence on this planet. Peace |
Peace, Vexxy Quote from: anton The fact of the matter is that as long as those in power ship jobs out of the country, in pursuit of profit and/or pure spite, you are going to have elements that do whatever it takes to feed themselves and their families. I think that which is bolded should be turned into pure greed Hmmm, maybe, but i doubt it. It comes down to power. The more resources under their control, the less for anybody else, epecially us. But to give you an example, if they would have given american blacks reparations 10 - 20 years ago, not only would that money have went right back into their hands, but the possibility exists that the amount would have[i]increased[/i] because of the businesses started and the non existance of black welfare (because of the reparations). So, yeah. Greed is diffinately a part of the game, but not the name of the game. Vexxy Quote yeah, my quote button isn't working )It is the same reasons people from Austrailia call themselves Austrailians, people from China calling themselves Chinese. Also, being on this site I don't normally see anyone calling themselves Africans but more specific of where they're from as in: Nigerians, Camaroonians, Congoliese, etc. What are your thoughts on that? I don't want to scare the readers away from the truth (and me), but when you consider the reality of Global White Terror Domination, it doesn't matter what you call yourself (or anybody else for that matter, including myself). You don't have any thermonuclear warheads, aircraft carriers, stealth aircraft, the means to engineer and manufacture such technology, nor do you have any means to defend yourself from these machines and the people who direct them against you; outside of unity and self-determination. Therefore, really, be honest, what does it matter what you call yourself? I call myself African (most of the time Afrikan, sometimes Afrakan, and if i'm really crunk, i refer to the Continent as Alkebu-lan) out of solidarity with my people and out of acknowledgement that there is a serious problem on this planet. To keep it real, we don't dictate nothing to nobody. That's a fact. To the creatures in power, we are all useless eaters. That's a fact. So... i don't put a lot of stock in what other people call themselves. I would love for Pan Africanism to be at the forefront of the mind of All Africans. I would love for all of us to see thru the lies, social engineering, and propanganda of this system that is being deployed against us. I would love for the African Students to began to make strategic plans now, so when we reach the age of adulthood and eldership, the plan and code of conduct is already in place so the fact of the second, fifth, and seventh sentence in this paragraph are not the concrete realities they are now. Vexxy quote But as far as our lack of morality goes I can say that it is a symptom. But I think that at the root of the problem you may find that we ourselves can change that. We can point fingers at other countries, past events, government and the like but those who overcame such burdens did it starting from a change within themselves. I agree with your general premise. The fatal issues, unfortunately, surface in the details. For instance, what is the problem? Do your parents know what the problem is? Do your friends know what the problem is. Do black 'leaders', the world over, know what the problem is. Who has truely overcome and what does that mean? Yes, the change does have to come from within. I see that, specifically, as Knowledge of Self, which includes the crimes that have been commited against you and the perpetrator of those crimes, not only the past greatness. This is common sense. Blaming and understanding, step by step, how you came to a particular point in time are two totally different concepts. Furthermore, explaining how events in the past have effected and created those in the present and future is exactly that, an explaination. Now, to all of a sudden decide you are going to change requires a point of referance; a wakeup call, so to speak. To put bluntly, what are you going to change for if you have no understanding that something is wrong? From my experience, it takes a lot of information and analysis to initiate a paradigm shift. Generally, things have to get, as we say in carolina, crucial by a shift of anykind occurs. If everythang was chill, then why even change? Could a newfound appreciation of past or understanding of current conditions events trigger such a shift? Look at the slaves who knew within themselves they were destined to more than being a slave. They escaped and moved on to greater things. But think of those who decided "This is just who I am" and decided to stay. What you are describing is vision. Everybody doesn't have it and those who do have it, possess it in various degrees. Futhermore, many who knew, were not successful in their escape(s). Does that mean they were destined to be slaves and tortured, raped castrated, etc, etc, etc. With that logic, that means that the entire Continent itself was destined for failure, and we all were destained to be slaves. After the creatures had gotton all the human cattle they wanted to the 'new world', they then proceeded to carve up the Continent almost without any major resistance, but apparently, many decided that "This is just who I am" and decided not the fight. Just to clarify, Nat Turner was the Man. He was also a slave, but he took care of business. Plenty of people are visionaries, such as myself. Success, however, will be dictated by the accomplishment of my goals. If i don't accomplish my goals, then i am weak and childlike. Only time will tell overall and my children will judge me. You can't fault people for not having vision in hind site. For instance, if i was a king in ancient Kmt, and some semi civilized sheep herders would have given my people major problems on my border, then i would have conducted an intelligence operation against them to see the extent of their number and area of distribution. I would have given them a chance to co-exist peacefully, but implemented a no mixing policy. If they kept killing my people, then i would have to move to annihilate them. Period. There is no decision between my people and some outside semi civilized sheep herders, especially if they hellbent on killing my people. The whole fall of Kmt never would have went down and no outsiders would have been initiated. That means no Plato or Aristotle to plagerize the works of our ancestors and claim them as their own. That's hind sight, tho. Also, if i was a Moorish general in Conquered europe, from approx. 700 AD to 1492AD, i would have implemented policies that ensured native europeans were not allowed into the libriaries, to translate texts, learn Arabic, etc, etc. I would have implemented something similar to the 'Cole Protocol' from the game 'Halo' (google it) : "Under no circumstance is the enemy to learn of the location of the Homeland by any means." Period. As soon as it became apparent that strategic ground was going to be lost, the order would have been given to either relocate texts to a postion that is defendable or they are burned immediately and on the spot. That way, the qoute, unqoute "" "" european reneisance, would have never happened. No books, no light, therefore no end of the wonderful Dark Ages. That's a fact. But that's in hind sight, tho. If i were an elder during the 1500s, in west Africa, i would have done everything in my power to squash all beef and and collect as much intel as possible as soon as these 'new' people from the sea appeared on the scene. Eventually, their identify as people conquered by other black people would have been confirmed. Then i would have a moor address and advise the court on what action to take. Fu(k all that infightin. Eventually the conclusion to go invade they a55e5 'one mo gin' would have been put into play and all this nonsense going on now, would not be going on. But, again, that's in hind sight. What I mean by this is: The only limitations we have are those we set or have others set for us. There are very few limitations i set on myself. I have my vices, but i am aware of them and fight them tooth and nail. I am faithful to my Queen, teach my little one in the Ways, don't do no drink, smoke or drugs. The only limitation or limit or term that i apply to myself is that of African (grudgingly, still trying to find a fact of Leo Africanus), a Man, and Warrior. The final analysis points to the fact that this entire planet is a plantation. So... you don't have any say What-So-Ever unless you are going to destroy the plantation and free your people. Until you decide to 'take care' of these people with the nuclear weapons and fleets who are dictating who gets what and when or if they get, then you just fooling yourself. Before anything happens, anything at all, we have to start being totally honest with ourselves and each other. To close, all the 'you's in the post are really 'we's. I always stress that younger people need to relieze what we have to offer and to began thinking now about what it is that we want to accomplish. Individually we are weak. That's a fact. Together... what can stand against us? I am because You are. You are because I am. But as long as we continue to act foolish we all will continue to be slaves to Wall Street, along with our children, and their children and so on and so forth until the creator cleanses the planet with a meteor/comet, or a pole shift/ice age, or maybe these vicious creatures will succeed in their plans to get the world's population down to 500 million people. I ain't down with that but it's not going to disappear just because i don't think or do anything about it. I don't think this is too offensive, but if anybody has an issue with what was said or how it was said let me know and i can further clarify. What it is, tho, is what it is. Stay Safe and Be Strong Yeah, i know it's getting long but: Quote from: anton I have been following news reports for the last year or so basically saying that there are no jobs for college graduates. You're so right at this point. I do believe that this is due to the fact that many big comapanies are outsourcing entry level jobs overseas. This leaves only opporitunities open to those who have been in the field for long (and have decided to go back to school at night; on the companies dime at that! (although I love that idea)) and to those who know people in high places. You forgot self determination. Entrepreneuship is what made this country what it is. Very important to remember.... |
Did i miss the link to the video? ![]() Could someone post it? If it was on the blog, they say they modified it.... and lost the original... ![]() |
@Latoya Thanks alot! @Vexxy I will wait for your full response... to build the supense!!! ![]() |
Thanks! I'll chek it out when i get time. ![]() I've been refreshing my termimal skillz so what i might do is just move the files i need to a safe place and go ahead and install kubuntu. I just found out about kubuntu a lil' bit ago. It got a fairly good review so that's my distro now. I've been testing the live version for a while. I was a fedora man, but naaahhhh. I need a stable platform, and not a testbed... Anyways, Holla! |
Thanks for the reponse, c0dec But i don't have the install cd. My winXP partition is NTFS. therefore double ![]() |
I have my own theory/analysis of why the Negros of America lost their moral authority. Basically, it boils down to there was no way to deny blacks here their demand for equality when they are the morel authority of the country. Therefore, you have to reengineer the society. I hope to get a chance to write that report, soon. The way i see it is this. The fact of the matter is that as long as those in power ship jobs out of the country, in pursuit of profit and/or pure spite, you are going to have elements that do whatever it takes to feed themselves and their families. Times have changed. America is not the industrial powerhouse it used to be. Poverty is a phenomenon, that is beyond the control individuals, minimally controllable by highly organized communities, and well within the scope of national policy makers.. That's a fact. It is up to policy makers and industrial leaders and bankers to ensure that home is fed before the neighbors. That is the basic problem from my perspective. Take this issue with the migrant workers from mexico and central america. It has nothing to do who wants to work and who doesn't want to work. It is an issue of who will work for $3.25 an hour and who will not work for $3.15 an hour. If there were jobs that people can be proud of they would seriously decrease crime. If people can at least see a future of prosperity for themselves it wold matter, as much, if they had to work at macdonald's for a year or so. But you gotta ask yourself... what is going on? I have been following news reports for the last year or so basically saying that there are no jobs for college graduates. My point is they threw our youth away in the 70's when they started making reasonable demands. Now they are throwing away their own youth. The evidence points not to 'morals', but to material conditions and policies that directly affect the populance. The vast and overwhelming majority of american blacks have only been urban dwellers for, max, two generations. They migrated during the european wars to fill a labor shortage and, in no small way, escape the terror campaigns of the Klu Klux Klan. Massive housing projects were constructed close to industrial facilities as a convient supply of human resources. What happens when the white boys, now men, come home from the war? They replace the black workers and the women workers. The economy is vibrant so really the replacement is symbolic, but expicitly understood. There was plenty of work up until the corporate restructuring of the 70's. This is when the 'enemy' of america, japan, was starting to close the industrial gap between to two because of massive capitalization by american tax payers. What happened was inevitiable. In order to compete, american corporations had 'downsize'. We all know who is the first to go and it's no joke. Gradually, the urban utopias become metropolitan prisons. Now workers laid off had to survive by any means neccesary, often learning a thing or two from those in power about the fine art of being a predator, preying on those around who were weaker. Suffice to say, when the unemployed and noncomplacent students began to demand from the goverment what government is 'supposed' to do, policy makers had to take action. Orders came down form on high that all potential leaders be put under surveillance. Major organizations were infiltrated by the FBI, CIA, and Department of Defense Intelligence Agencies. Some of the organizations included the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, Southern Baptist Leadership Conference, the Nation of Islam, and the Black Panther Party. Other organizations were annihilated all together, such as MOVE, led by John Africa. Counter-intelligence operations were conducted against United States 'citizens'. Gradually, as conditions ripened, select leaders were targeted for 'liquidation'. For the sake of simplicity, I will not go indept into the aspects of chemical warfare and the implimencations of Roe vs Wade. Suffice to say, the cartels of central and south america, along with the european american criminal communities (namely italian and russian), 'blew up', as we say on the street, from the government complacentcy on the acceptance of certain substances. Reports are still circulating that the substance know as 'cocaine' (blow, coke) is actually the younger sibling of the substance known as LSD (acid), meaning their creaters may share professional and, maybe, institutional relationships. Concerning Roe vs Wade, over 18 million young africans are not here today in the us. One can easily remember, barely a year or so ago, the media coverage of 'hispanics' being close to equal to the population of 'african americans'. A more difficult task is reading between the lines and researching how these issues affect us. It seems as though i just wrote the the outline of the report i mentioned earliar. So to an extent, i agree on the subject of lack morality, however, i see that only as a symptom of much grander machinations put in play by our 'enemies' to create exactly that: a lack of morality. Many refuse to see that we have 'enemies'. African Americans are especially guilty of this By adressing themselves as "african Americans", they are pledging alliegence to the same group of people that ripped them from their homeland, dehumanized them to a level of mere beasts and property, segregated them as a sub caste of the greater society, committed atrocities against them in the form of rapes, castrations, and hangings, and failing to offer any corrective actions and/or solutions to the horrors and economic disenfrachisement of Chattel Slavery and Jim Crowism. African Americans say they are american to seperate themselves from Africa and allieviate themselves of any reponsibility to the Continent. Farrakhan is african american; he wont speak out against the slavery in Mali, Mauritania, and the Sudan, but yet he is sposed to be 'real'. These other people are the same way. That's why i say the only thing american about me are my dollars. I plan to get as many as i can and 'relocate' them were they can do some good, namely the Motherland. African American is the term created by jesse 'the agent' jackson to seperate the plight of africa from the plight of african people born in america and elsewhere. He sought to ensure american blacks didn't get involved in the unrest of the continent during the eighties. To illustrate that point, when italy invaded ethiopia, the lines stretched around the blocks in Harlem of black Men, real Black Men, ready to revoke thier american citizenship in order to go fight for ethiopia. That was during the Age of Marcus Mosiah Garvey's United Negro Improvement Organization - African Communities League. Yeah, i went all over, but hopefully it's coherant. I have an inability to say things simply. Actually, alot of the terms i normally use that create the most obvious mental picture may be a little too ruff and tuff for this forum ( ie, i don't want to get kicked off or banned), so i took the polically correct route... yet another accomendation in service of our enemies. @vexxy See, i don't have a problem with long responses... ![]() @wesleyanA now you see why i'm not too keen on being called african american. Yeah, my nationiality is American. Legally (for what its worth), i am a citizen of this country. That makes American. Not african american. Look at the logic. Do yts call themselves european americans? No. They affix a country to 'american'. italian american, german, even korean, chinese, and japanese. Africa, on the otherhand, is not a country... its a Continent, the second largest and most diverse on the planet. Because our history and culture was beaten and tortured out of us, few can trace their origins on the Continent. The deep, deep ways remained, but didn't have a conscious outlet. Therefore Africans born over here should, ideally, racially identify themselves as simply Africans. Unfortunately, most are unconscious and/or scared to embrace who and waht they are. But make no mistake about it, a United States Citizenship and Passport are powerful weapons and i plan to make total, efficent use of them. yeah, the repley turned against me and said what it needed to say... ![]() Holla! |
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