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Do they allow building of Churches in their model state, Saudi Arabia?

Iblad0994, Myobjective can you pls clarify the following :
1. Is Saudi Arabia the model state for all Muslims

2. Does Saudi Arabia tolerate the practice of any other religion apart from Islam

3. Does Saudi Arabia allow for the building of Churches

4. Are Christian paraphernalia including the Bible and Cross not banned from being imported into Saudi Arabia

5. What is the penalty for apostasy in Saudi Arabia

6. What is the penalty for Christian evangelism

7. Are Christian holidays and celebrations allowed in Saudi Arabia

Your answer will determine if you are true Muslims.

myobjective:
I am a proud Yoruba man, I am human first before any Abrahamic religion I may choose to follow, I respect the right of others to practice their faith as long as it doesn't interfere with my fundamental human rights.

Religious bigotry will not take you, people, anywhere

Mr Humanist, you didn't raise a whimper over the inclusion of Sharia law in the constitution and adoption of parallel Sharia law in northern states.
You have never ever raised your humanity banner to condemn the killings and subjugation of non Muslims living in the Islamic north.

Your humanity cloak was only dorned when Wike demolished a mosque for not complying with planning regulations.

I see you.

myobjective:
The Igbos are so afraid of the Fulani -Hausa that they believe subconsciously that every tolerant Muslim is some kind of fake Muslim, they wouldn't admit this fact.

Yorubas don't need validation from Hausas or Fulani to practice whatever religion they choose to practice, our culture is different, our outlook towards life is different and so also is our temperament, the fact that the core northerners are violent doesn't mean that Yorubas can live in peace with one another despite having a substantial number of Muslims.

I keep saying that there is no such thing as Islamaphobia.

A phobia describes an irrational fear.

From the bloody history of Islam and Muslims, one can not be accused of holding a cautionary approach when dealing with Muslims.

The two terrorist groups terrorising the country today have Islamic expansionism as their paramount agenda.

To me there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

The Koran makes it very clear who a "good Muslim" is and BH and Fulani herdsmen are in tandem with those ideals.

The only difference between a so called moderate Muslim and am extremist is that while one wants to behead you, the other is hoping the other will do just that.

They are beginning to suspect that Ortom has joined IPOB

Your religious tolerance confusion led to the sacking of the old capital of the Oyo Empire, loss of Ilorin to Sokoto, invasion of all Yoruba land, occupation of Osogbo and jihadist raids all over the empire.

All subtle jihadist expansionism in present day into Yoruba land by Sokoto is being done with the full support of Yoruba Muslims who act as both enablers to Sokoto jihadism not only in your region but the entire south and Christian middle belt.

The Yoruba Muslims here are the number 1 Fulani apologists and are the ones who are quick to defend and absolve the Fulanis from criminal activity while deflecting to other people or groups.

myobjective:
I keep telling people that the core north and the SE/SS are very similar in their extreme view towards religion, they are both religious extremist that lack tolerance for other people's faith. The only difference between these two groups is that Islam is more of a political ideology that can make uneducated people do stupid things, Christianity, on the other hand, focus much on the worldly things.

These two groups are very extreme and normally take actions without reasoning, an average Yoruba Muslim is more educated, more tolerant and has more diversity in family and among friends that is the difference between us Yoruba and the core northerner. Some progressive, educated core northerners are even more tolerant than an Igbos.

In this age and time, it baffles me that people are still arguing about which state is a Christian or Muslim state when we have a myriad of problem ranging from poverty, illiteracy, unemployment etc.

topcatking:
There was no demand. Macron made a statement, in which he said "the Amazon forest is of INTERNATIONAL IMPORTANCE & should be TREATED as an [/b]international resource.[b]

Well meaning words, yes, but easily misconstrued.

Then he went further to say that the wildfire(s) is an international threat which can only be quelled by international efforts.

Here, a bit of French coc.kiness. And subtle feelers(I must confess).

You are probably not aware of when Macro, in Eco-warrior mode, demanded in a speech presented at a summit that the Amazon must be granted international protection and independence from any state control akin to Antarctica.

Google it yourself!

The Brazilian govt referred to Macron's demands as reverse colonialism.

Macron is an idiot who knows little or nothing he is pushing because he is just a globalist pawn.

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topcatking:
Here's another Misguided and idiotic leader. Sacrificing the lives & homes of forest dwelling tribes and pristine habitat of rare flora and fauna for his overblown ego.

What a world!

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Why should the EU led by Macron demand that the Amazon forest be "Internationalised"?

The EU wants a cut in the rich mineral deposits the Amazon has to offer and not because they give a flying Fck about the Amazon ecosystem.

And no single Co-defendant


Goes to tell you the bunch of cowards he put together to stage a revolution

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Sonnyboom:
You will be amazed to discovered all the bile, frustration of a comment is coming from a particular tribe in Nigeria. The tribe of the lost jew. Wetin Macron do them we no no but when a hate filled tribe nurtured it toddler with nothing but irredeemable hate, chronic bigotry n excessive foolishness comment like above is what you get.

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Multiculturalism advocate has spoken

Now he is ball-less.

From wanting to ball to losing your balls

All is not lost as he can now explore his anal desires and be someone's prison bitch

Now you can be some one's bitch in prison

Explore your anal desires

On a serious note, this beef started as a result of Macron (the globohomo stooge puppet), declaring in a speech he made at the UN, that the Amazon forest (which the Brazilian president wants to open up to loggers, mining activity and farmers ) be declared "international" and handed over to the UN.

Macron is making this declaration on the premise of wild forest fires that have been ravaging the Amazon forest to which Macron alludes has been as a result of deliberate arson encouraged by the current far-right Brazilian president to quickly see to the opening up of the Amazon for exploitation.

Now this is pure Macron at his best! A man that declared "Nationalism is not akin to Patriotism". This sounds absurd at first but if you believe in multiculturalism and globalism aka communism then there is no room for national identities and border states. To Macron, patriotism is reserved to only the globalist one world govt.
The man Macron is now in charge of negotiating Brexit on behalf of the EU and he has vowed to ensure Britain goes bankrupt after leaving the UK so as to force a new referendum to get a No Vote to leaving the UK.

The man Macron in typical eco-terrorism has deployed the false narrative on anthropological climate change to introduce higher taxes on pump prices of fuel in France - this is the origin of the yellow vest protests that have been rocking France for months on end.

Communist Globalists stooges from Macron to the batshit insane Alexanderia Ocas Cortez are highly ignorant people who know little or nothing whatsoever on what they are pushing for. This makes them the perfect candidates as puppets in the hands of their shadowy globalist masters.

Another trait of these Communist morons is their pathetic sexual orientation/deviancy. From Obama to Macron to Merkel, these stooges have very degenerate sex lives. You may say that is a private issue, but a persons sexual orientation and outlook goes a long way to expose the flaws in their general character.

The Brazilian president making a jest of Macron's beard of a wife is a subtle hint alluding to Macron's deviancy. The Brazilian president is by that mockery is saying : 'look at this faggy boy talking'.

trapQ:
Lmao. You really must be beyond ignorant. The SS as a region is much more developed than the SW. If you don't know this then you've obviously been living under a rock.

Don't mind them.

They will just remain in their backward amala region and assume they are developed and woke

Iamgrey5:
Stop spewing rubbish bruv.

But it's true nah.

After the pillaging of Oyo Ile by the Muslim coalition led by Afonja and subsequent jihadist raids across the once fledging empire, Yorubas from across the empire will stream into Ibadan to seek refuge.

This is the humble beginnings of Africa's largest city.

He was depressed due to SDC (Small Dik Complex)

Maybe his wife ridiculed him the first time around and told him he can never satisfy her.

Ibadan, the once small Egbe town that catered to fleeing Yoruba refugees.

The world's only city to owe it's roots as the largest IDP camp in Africa.

It is from Islamic injunction that forbids Muslim women being wedded to non Muslims that I am referring to

Your so-called tolerance is not in tandem to Islamic doctrine.

Iblad0994:
Bro you are missing the fact together here. Stop trying to make it seems like we need validation from the North before we can pronounce ourselves muslim in the SW. Was the Quran given to the North? Is Mohammed from the North? Is Mecca in the North?

I'm even tired of explaining. The Yorubas do not care whether the North accept us as true muslim or not.

Although Muslims are encouraged to marry/abduct Christian women/girls they are forbidden to give out their own women in marriage to non Muslims

This is one of several reasons the north does not count you as real muslims

Iblad0994:
How do you measure real muslim? What yardstick do you use to guage a muslim? Killing and intolerance of other people? Do I need to behave like some bigots in the North to be a true muslim?

I read the Quran at the arabic house, I read the translation (Itumo) of the Quran. What do you mean by real muslim?

Then you are not real muslims

Iblad0994:
Yes, I have seen it countless times. What other question do you want to ask?

Iblad0994:
Thank you for indirectly accepting the fact that the Yoruba are the most religious tolerant ethnic group in Nigeria.

How do you guage the minority status of the muslims in Yoruba land? Who conducted the census? which statistics backs up your claim?

Hausa/Fulani muslims in the North can NOT lay terms for the Yorubas, why do you guys keep attributing too much importance to the North?

@the bolded, are you kidding me? You mean the refinery was relocated from Ondo to Lagos because of religion? I give up

can a Yoruba Muslim woman be wedded to a Christian Yoruba man?

Babzrockman:
Tinubu why?

Because Ambode has been pencilled down to replace Fowler as FIRS boss.

Tinubu is trying hard to discredit Ambode after the EFCC set up failed and is now using his Alausa rats at Lagos State Assembly paint Ambode as corrupt just as Tinubu did to Fashole when he was nominated as Minister by Buhari.

TooMuchStuff:
The two animals mentioned above are actually practicing Muslims hidden in the cloak of Christianity deployed by Caliphate to the East to protect the interest of Islam. That's why they were empowered with huge cash reserve stolen by the Fulanis Cabal from ND oil Money.

The title they conferred on Kalu by the Emir of Daura actually means "son born of a sex slave "

Roachas mother is believed to have conceived him in an adulterous affair to one ab0ki

GreyLaw:
You know quite some history. Impressive. Christianity is tolerant to a fault and people of the other faith exploit this. Same thing was happening in the US before Trump and you can he's them cursing him everyday. The man doesn't give a hoot. Below is a text culled from the letter written by Russian Orthodox Christian organisation to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia in 2008 when he offered to build a large mosque in Moscow:

“You often say that Islam is a religion of justice. However, if Saudi Arabia builds mosques in dozens of Christian countries, isn’t it just to build a church for Christians living in Your Kingdom! It would be just to create the same conditions for Saudi Christians as Muslims have in Russia … It is the only way to make interreligious dialogue honest and just.”

Talk about when it's easy to dish it out and now want to receive same.

A mosque is akin to a barracks.

Allowing a mosque to be built in your land is the first wave of victory for Muslims.

Idiots like Okorocha and Urji Kalu that used state resources to build mosques in their state did not pause to ask if any northern state governor has ever done same for Christians in their states.

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Iblad0994:
You are saying nonsense, Ilorin is an imperial outpost of the Oyo empire as at then and the issue of Alimi and Afonja has to do with the notion of belief over traditional means. The Fulani were able to achieve that feat because they hid under religion, which explains why the white misssionaries were also able to propagate christainity against our traditional faith.

The Fulanis were defeated when they tried advancing towards the Oyo empire at present day Osun State and they were blocked by the ever gallant Yoruba forces.

If you like you can wail from now till eternity, that does not stop the fact that the Yorubas have learnt to conquer hatred borne out of religion differences. My mom is a christain and my dad is a muslim, you will also see these kind of settings in other Yoruba families.

I can deduce from your comment that you really wish your people can have the tolerance as the Yorubas coz you hate what you can't have.

There is no difference between the SE & the North in terms of religious toxicity, the only difference is that while the North is bold to kill other people with different religion, the SE haven't done that yet and they only attack other religion by noise and online disturbances. Both you and the north are religion savages.

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Iblad0994:
I don't bleeping care what the North calls us.

No SW muslim has ever been accused of killing other people for the sake of religion
No SW muslim has ever been a terrorist blowing people up
SW muslim have learnt to live and intermarry with the SW christains
It is Yoruba first.

The North can call us Kafir if they want coz the last time i read the Koran, Mohammed (SAW) is not from the North and God did not place the Quran in the hands of a northerner.

Yoruba Moslems teamed up with Fulani jihadist from Sokoto to pillage old Oyo Ile.

Ilorin is forever lost to the north because of Yoruba Moslem treachery.

Don't preach about Yoruba Moslem tolerance because I do know for a fact that Islamic fanaticism is spreading like wild fire among Yoruba Muslim students in tertiary institutions.

The MSS branch of the University of Ife was proscribed and banned by the university authority for displaying "fanatical and intolerant views".

The only consolation I can extend to you is that you are more of a nuisance than a threat to anybody now that we know that the Yoruba Moslem will always worship Sokoto.

Aluta we-no-go-gree tactics is obsolete in a fundamentalist Islamic dictatorship.

Try nonsense and meet Buruntai's brutes.

Iblad0994:
If Wike like he should demolish all the mosque in Rivers, that is their own cup of tea. Both the North and the SE/SS are bird of a feather. Both have no religion tolerance and are both guilty of the same sin. If Hausa/Fulani like they should demolish all churches while the SS/SE should do the same. Who religion even epp self.

I just know those kind of things will not happen in the SW, and even if it happens it will not generate any rancor as this coz people will understand the motive behind it (Maybe road expansion or other reasons).

As a muslim in the SW, I take no offense in what Wike did, coz the Northerners can also do the same so its do me I do you.

And you wonder why the north calls you kafirs fake Muslims.

GreyLaw:
And just when you think you are following the discussion someone talks about the "culture of love" preached by Paul and Christ. Some Christians are blind and rightly so. The love Jesus talked about was that which is to exist between individuals or families or even enemies. It never meant to fold your arms and "love" an enemy State or country as they advance to destroy your life and territory.

As a leader, you may have to go to war to defend the life and territory of your nation, and this has nothing to do with love or hate. People preach what they do not understand. If not that people stood up to Buhari and his wicked intention to take people's land by force, in the next 30-50 years most of the Southern states would have been overrun by these jihadists from Mali and CAR.

Look at the two democratic lawmakers in the US who rode on the votes of a majorly Christian population, a country whose constitution is made from the Bible and whose founding fathers honoured the Christian faith, looking down on and insulting Israel. Name one of the republics of the other faith that has Christians as lawmakers. Nonsense!

Keep preaching what you don't know until your state and country is overrun by jihadists and your children won't have a conducive environment to even mention the name of Christ.

The core North are never ashamed to tell you through government policies and everything they do that they are Muslim. I have never had problems with them doing so. I respect it. Why then is Wike being disturbed for telling the world that his state is factually and correctly Christian?

The Fulani used Islam as an instrument to rally support and seize power. They are still deploying such tactics in the north and any dissenting voice in the north against the House of Don Fodio is treated as an apostate (see Maitatsine and El Zackzacky).

Fulani political hegemony is now so inter weaved into northern Islamic doctrine that anybody who goes against Fulani authority (be it a devout Muslim scholar) is declared a heretic and apostate.

The Fulani failed in conquering Jukum land because in their early attempts at settling down and building a mosque close to the Jukum palace which housed a shrine to the Jukum gods, was rejected by the Jukum King who inquired from the Fulanis if he as a jukum man can be allowed to build a shrine to his god in front of their Amir Palace in Kano.

Fulanis have been building mosques at the center of major southern towns and cities since the end of the civil war during the military dispensations.

This is a deliberate ploy to have symbols of Islam at the very core of the city.

These mosques have been referred to as their fortress, armoury and barracks which also doubles as their shelters.

Before long, they will begin to spread their settlements around the mosque and before you know it you have a "Hausa" quarters in your midst.

ProfBrugo:
I read somewhere that if Christianity had a militant/extremist wing, it would be headquartered in Biafra land.

This is simply because of a culture of exclusion. Wike embodies this sentiment. This is evident in his tendencies to trivialise intolerance and threaten violence against ethno-political opponents.


Hiding under the blanket of an Old Testament principle of “an eye for an eye” to deride and hate your neighbours (who are gentiles by the situation of their births) is totally in opposition to the principle of Love which Jesus and Paul preached.

It appears one of the factors preventing more igbos from wholeheartedly declaring for Nnamdi Kanu is his concept of the creator whom he calls Chukwu Okike Abiama who may share some attributes with the Christian God but is essentially a member of the native pantheon.

Take your bullsh!t tolerance to sambisa.

The Muslim north discusses and plans daily on how to wipe out Christianity from Nigeria and conquer all peoples under their satanic banner.

Their vagrant mobs are on standby day and night waiting for the order to loot, rape and kill non Muslims in their midst - all it will take is one call from a mosque's minaret speakers.

Christian tolerance should never be taken for weakness.

Christ will not come down and fight to defend us, He will only come down to protect us when in battle.

Heaven helps those who help themselves.

Self preservation is a God given right which must not be discarded on the principles of weakness masked as Christian tolerance.

IamSoProlific:
That was actually a rhetorical question, because I may know more than you do. I expected you to talk about the periodic checkups and also it's vaccination, not to sound absurd hereby causing panic to readers.

Did I tell you I am a doctor?

ITK, post, read and move on.