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So what's now the price?

natruetalk: let make some dollar for 65 minute

GBP/USD is strictly lower than 1.6129 at 10:20:56 GMT on 12-Dec-12

Lost to your GU alert. Hope it gets better next time.

gnachu2: Sir it is best for it to touch the price before you enter. That price was not touched at all. Check the charts.

I think I do not understand you well. You gave alert hoping that Apple price will rise above $540 at the end of the day. And then I entered at a better price of $532 for it to rise above $540 end of day. Why do you say I should wait again for it to touch $540 before placing my trade? Will that not reduce my chance?

His details:

Chibuzor Eze ( biz4naija@gmail.com )

Chibuzor Eze | P.O.Box 2379 | Ikeja, Lagos | 23400 | Nigeria

Security can get his contact through bank details or the post office.

i met your apple alert at less than 540 you gave, precisely at 532 this evening. let's hope your signal truly works. you said we should repeat same alert and price call for apple tomorrow, right?

darkhand: Wonderful. I bet you wrote all this so all the kids on this board will be impressed. Well I am not. Why you insist on belaboring this point I don't know. I have no intention of giving you or your alter ego legalwealth any more info than you already have. As for all that nonsense about continents and accounts any adult here would realize that you are just making noise, let me assure you I am not impressed. So you expect me to also start to boast here? You are just another pimple faced kid like legalwealth. Please let it rest because I have answered you. If you are so "rich" then "consult" na abi? That way you can put your money where your mouth is.

I guess you do not truly have a company business method to opening paypal account, hence you are diverting my inquiry to some childish display or youthful exuberance. So, you mean whoever has a working paypal account with card or has company to use with your suggested method is boastful, rich and continental? Is that what you could pick from my question? Anyway, thank you for showing some level of immaturity in a forum where your supposed expertise is being sought for.

My final advice to you is that you should start a relationship with Christ and be genuinely born again. You will see that humility will be natural for you and your inner tendency to abuse or insult people will disappear. God bless!

I think your $5000 charge for this is too much as I saw on your flyer.

Let's hope the author and publisher are not quarreling with the poster of this thread over ownership of the book. So that this is not an attempt to spoil their business. I never knew the book they are talking about. I guess it's for younger generation that are now using it.

darkhand: Really? I came away with the impression that both of you are the same person, repeatedly asking the same question I have already answered. Circular arguments come back to the same place:

I honestly did not see your answer to the question. You said it is possible for company to open a paypal business account as a recognized legal entity and that there shouldn't be a problem about that? My question for the umpteenth time is to practically and as simple as possible tell us how or where to go about that. It could be something like go to paypal website and click on so and so link and you will find this or that. I mean a kind of KISS (keep it short & simple) approach.

I do not only know how to open and operate other types of paypal accounts, I have the account and I still use my paypal with balance in it. I do not need or use it with any software or VPN or such hide IP nor do I need any other guide that an average Nigerian user needs as they advertise here on Nairaland. I even have my paypal mastercard if I need the fund from ATM. But I am very open to information and researches from other people here. That is why your contribution (about opening company business account as a fail-safe alternative to paypal limitation) tickled my fancy. I have duly registered companies in the USA and the UK, which I can use with your supposedly "legal" method to paypal. Hence, the reason for my question to you to expatiate on your suggestion. But since the answer I seemed to observe you gave is consultation, how much then is your consultation fee and how do we go about it please?

Price and pictures please.

darkhand: What does this crap mean? Because you have no knowledge of something , then what? You avoided the question. Does Paypal offer services to legal entities? The answer is yes. Does a company have a date of birth? The answer is no. I find your attitude shocking. Ahhhhhhhh, I see, you are here to drive customers to legalwealth abi? That is why he reserved his comments. Anyway, please accept my assurances that Paypal does business with companies, the idea that a company the size of Paypal does not do business with companies is so ludicrous that it could only come from people like you.

Even though your response betrays pride and insult, I accept all in good faith and I say thank you for the response in bold letters. I thought the import of my statement really showed that I was interested in knowing if I can open a paypal account with company business name and details; not knowing it could be misconstrued as you did.

You offered to be contacted on the mechanics of how to do it in your penultimate posting, so how are you different from legalwealth who you are accusing me of seeking customers for? Are you not going to charge for the consultation you requested as well? My paypal experience is not quite long and broad as yours because I only started actively using paypal in 2005.

Anyway, so that we will not be dragging issues unnecessarily, I know that Paypal accepts business entities but what I need you to explain was how you said such type of account will not have the limitation issues other people mentioned earlier here. This is because the paypal business accounts I know on paypal still have the company owner details registered/attached to it as merchants. So going by that option, how do a Nigerian person opening even the business, merchant or personal paypal account scale the limitations via the company business account option you suggested earlier?

darkhand: Any legally registered business can open a Paypal account. In civilized countries, companies are legal entities in their own right. I don’t see what is so hard about that. If you want to know the actual mechanics of going about opening the account and all that, you need to consult me.

Anyway from my little experience, the business and premier paypal accounts I have opened in the past were all in my personal name. I would not understand if I can use my company name instead and give which date of birth to the company. Even if I can be allowed to use my company name and other details required on paypal registration page, all eligibility requirements and country of origin and access that paypal is known for must still be observed.

Do you mean the person you quoted is an American and so you despise him him by calling him bloody?
Do you mean other ideologies you subscribed to aside capitalism encourage you to earn without paying your tax obligation?
Are you a pay-as-you-earn (PAYE) taxpayer or among those evading tax and blaming government for not giving you infrastructure?

darkhand: The solution is simple, have the right account. The reason Nigerians have problems with PayPal is because they want to do things the wrong way. Nigerians can legally have PayPal accounts but they really should be business accounts. Yes, this means incorporating a company and using the company to open the PayPal account. If people did this there would be no money lost to PayPal. I am aware of the cost, but what is the limit to the number of shareholders a company can have? If it means charging a fee, I don't see why 50 people can not use one legit account? Is it not one company? Each person would end up paying around $40 if the company opened an account in an offshore location or $15 if the account was opened in the USA. Doing it this way will kep the users honest as you will make sure you know ( in the Nigerian sense) the people you allow in.

As it is you will be told how to hide and pray that PayPal does not notice you. The real question is why do the so called exchangers etc not do this? The answer is because they themselves are not in this for the long term. I don't mean any disrespect, just keeping it real.

I honestly do not understand your business company option to paypal. I am not sure a company can open paypal account without a person name and details for it even though the choice is business account. I thought a person's name will still be attached to that account and so all country eligibility, IP address access protocols must still be observed (like the case of individual use of paypal). Can you expatiate on what you are talking about company option to operating paypal.

legalwealth: Sorry!Bye to your 15k

You be greedy man and this is good for you.

Lesson for other people.

You mean his friend promising to send him money amounts to greediness? Please, avoid error of hasty generalization.

ROSSIKE: Do you have a BRAIN IN YOUR HEAD?

TELL ME SOMETHING. IN YOUR EMAIL BOX, WHERE DO THE MAJORITY OF SCAM EMAILS EMANATE FROM?

Is it not the UK and USA?

''You won the lottery! Send a txt to xyz to claim!''

''You've been selected to win a prize! Click here to claim!''

''We have a plan that can make you rich in one week! Click here!''

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FALL FOR THOSE SCAMS EVERY SINGLE DAY?

ARE THEY COMING FROM NIGERIA?

RUBBISH.

Jacoplain and Rossike: Do you know those emails you said are emanating from the UK and USA are from your your friends and brothers over there and those in Nigeria hiding IP or using VPN? I just hope you are not writing as a Nigerian living there under fraudulent papers, who always feel threatened and marginalized by the UK and USA citizens. Such don't always see anything good in the whites' policies. Come home and repair your country so that your image can be improved everywhere.

Jacoplain and Rossike: Do you know those emails you said are emanating from the UK and USA are from your your friends and brothers over there and those in Nigeria hiding IP or using VPN? I just hope you are not writing as a Nigerian living there under fraudulent papers, who always feel threatened and marginalized by the UK and USA citizens. Such don't always see anything good in the whites' policies. Come home and repair your country so that your image can be improved everywhere.

What did you buy or what business transaction did you carry out with epay that warrants someone sending you huge some from the UK? If there was no business dealings and it was just philanthropic promise of money you got from the UK sender, does that mean you have not heard of such phony phone calls from the UK asking people to get in touch with someone coming to or living in Nigeria in order to collect monetary and material gifts being sent down? It's a common 419 practice.

Go to their head offices to find out.

Surety and not shorty.

mrkels: Sent this card to my house address. See mistake o cos I havnt seen it till now. They keep telling me I have received my card, I know its in nigeria, but these nipost people have refused to bring it to my doorsteps. Damn.

Do NIPOST usually bring mails to your doorstep before? That is what should make you feel comfortable that they will bring this. But if they don't ordinarily, why did you use house address when I have said earlier that Payoneer now accepts PO Box for receiving the card? You may visit your nearest post office anyway and search among their pool of undeliverable mails (those mails that are not usually sorted into PO boxes nor delievered at home) for yours.

Chrisvicmall has said my mind. I feel the screenshot from biz4naija should start from 19th and end on 22nd because that will capture the first account transaction on 20th up to the last transaction on 21st (just in case they did not post the guy's payment on that 20th). From what naija4biz posted, it shows that the money was not paid in on 21st. It now remains to show us from 19th so that we can believe it was not paid in on 20th also.

I feel tempted to blame it on the poor banking system error, which possibly may either make the money to be paid into a wrong account or hanging somewhere but the solution is still in finding out from the bank you deposited the money from. Not only to ask if kingsale is the owner of the account but to know if they actually paid it in as you filled it in the teller.

If kingsale/biz4naija can show us his 19th/20th November transaction to vindicate himself here, then the ball will be in the poster's court. If the poster also make his findings and the bank confirms that he actually made the payment but bank disappointed, he will have to recoup his money from the bank. I want to believe the bank will not accept the error and still refuse to refund the poster. Keep us posted on the outcome of your findings while we await Chibuzor's account posting.

If the bank vindicates Chibuzor as having not been paid, the poster will need to apologize to Chibuzor for negative reports on his biz while biz4naija will also apologize to poster for taking him as scammer who was trying to dupe also. That is if the bank is the culprit while both sides are vindicated as having not lied to us.

2sexy: Arbitrage, are you an internet marketer or into something of that sort?

Sorry, I saw your question late, just now. I think I am jack of all trades but still trying and struggling to master one, smile.

I got this from someone and I think it makes good reading.....

Nigeria Exports Religion, India Exports Cars.The biggest country in Africa that the United Kingdom colonised is Nigeria. The biggest country that the United Kingdom colonised in Asia is India (which then comprised the present Pakistan and Bangladesh).When the UK came into Nigeria and India, like all other countries they colonised, they brought along their technology, religion (Christianity), and culture: names, dressing, food, and language, among others. Try as hard as the British did, India rejected the British religion, names, dressing, food, and even language, but they did not reject the British technology. Today, 80.5 per cent of Indians are Hindus; 13.4 per cent Muslims; 2.3 per cent Christians; 1.9 per cent Sikhs; 0.8 per cent Buddhists, among others. Hindi is the official language of the government of India, but English is used extensively in business and administration and has the status of a subsidiary official language.

Interestingly, it is rare to find an Indian with an English name or dressed in suit.On the other hand, Nigeria embraced, to a large extent, the British religion, British culture “ names, dressing, foods, and language “ but, ironically, rejected the British technology. The difference between the Nigerian and the Indian experiences is that while India is proud of its heritage, Nigeria takes little pride in its own heritage, a situation that has affected the nationalism of Nigerians and our development as a nation.Before the advent of Christianity, the Arabs had brought Islam into Nigeria through the North. Islam also wiped away much of the culture of Northern Nigeria. Today, the North has only Sharia courts but no Customary courts. So from the North to the South of Nigeria, the Western World and the Eastern World have shaped our lives to be like theirs and we have lost much or all of our identity.Long after the Whites and Arabs left Nigeria, Nigeria has waxed strong in religion to the extent that Nigerians now set up branches of their home-grown churches in Europe, the Americas, Asia and other African countries. Just like the Whites brought the gospel to us, Nigerians now take the gospel back to the Whites. In Islam, we are also very vibrant to the extent that if there is a blasphemous comment against Islam in Denmark or the US, even if there is no violent reaction in Saudi Arabia, the Islamic headquarters of the world, there will be loss of lives and destruction of property in Nigeria. If the United Arab Emirates, a country with 75 per cent Muslims, is erecting the tallest building in the world and encouraging the world to come and invest in its territory by providing a friendly environment, Boko Haram ensures that the economy of the North (and by extension that of Nigeria) is crippled with bombs and bullets unless every Nigerian converts to Boko Haram's brand of Islam. We are indeed a very religious people.

Meanwhile, as we are building the biggest churches and mosques, the Indians, South Africans, Chinese, Europeans and Americans have taken over our key markets: telecoms, satellite TV, multinationals, banking, oil and gas, automobile, aviation, and hospitality industries among others.Ironically, despite our exploits in religion, we are a people with little godliness, a people without scruples. It is rare to do business with a Nigerian pastor, deacon, knight, elder, brother, sister, imam, mullah, mallam, alhaji or alhaja without the person laying landmines of bribes and deception on your path. We call it PR, facilitation fee, processing fee, transport money, financial engineering, deal, or whatever. But if it does not change hands, no show. And when it is amassed, we say it is "God's blessings." Some people assume that sleaze is a problem of public functionaries, but the private sector seems to be worse than the public sector these days.One would have assumed that the more churches and mosques that spring up in every nook and cranny of Nigeria, the higher the morals in our society. But it is not so. The situation is that the more religious we get, the baser we become. Our land never knew the type of bloodshed experienced from religious extremists, political desperadoes, ritual killers, armed robbers, kidnappers, internet scammers, university cultists, and lynch mobs. Life has become so cheap and brutish that everyday seems to be a bonanza.

We import petrol even when we have crude oil in abundance. We also import rice and beans that our land can produce in abundance. We even import toothpicks that primary school children can produce with little or no effort. Yet, we drive the best of cars and live in the best of edifices, visit the best places in the world for holidays and use the most expensive electronic and telecoms gadgets. It is now a sign of poverty for a Nigerian to ride a saloon car. Four-wheel drive vehicles are the in thing. Even government officials, who were known to use only Peugeot products as official cars as a sign of modesty, have upgraded to Toyota Prado as official vehicle without any iota of shame, in a country where about 70 per cent live below poverty line. Private jets have become as common as cars. A nation that imports toothpicks and pins flaunts wealth and wallows in ostentation at a time its children are trooping to Ghana, South Africa and the UK for university education and its sick people are running to India for treatment.India produces automobile and exports it to the world. India's medical care is second to none, with even Americans and Europeans travelling to the country for medical treatment. India has joined the nuclear powers nations. India has launched a successful mission to the moon. Yet bicycles and tricycles are common sights in India. But in Nigeria, only the wretched of the earth ride bicycles.I have intentionally chosen to compare Nigeria with India rather than China, South Korea, Brazil, Malaysia, or Singapore, because of the similarities between India and Nigeria. But these countries were not as promising as Nigeria at the time of our independence.

Some would say that our undoing is our size: the 2012 United Nations estimate puts Nigeria's population at 166,000 million, while India has a population of 1.2 billion. Some would blame it on the multiplicity of ethnic groups: we have 250 ethnic groups, India has more than 2,000. Some would hang it on the diversity in religion: we have two major religions, Christianity and Islam; but India has many. Some would say it is because we are young as an independent nation: we have 52 years of independence; India has 65 years. Apartheid ended in South Africa only in 1994. I am a Christian, and nothing can change me from Christianity. But I think that our country is daily sinking into religiosity to the detriment of godliness. Our land is sick and needs healing. "If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves, and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land" is still a saying that is germane to our current situation. We need more godliness than religion; more work and less of hope; and more action and less of words.Let everyone tidy up his or her corner first and demand fervently that our leaders tidy their areas of governance. Our nation is degenerating at a fast pace and we need to save it now or it may be too late.