₦airaland Forum

ChriGo:
....My bros...sorry to say, I don't agree with the bolded statements...I want you to spit the way around it just like you said and lets see if there isn't any form of illegality involved.....Since students are only allowed to work 20hr/week, how much will you save after deducting bills wey fit make man go crazy...you realize you're left with nothing.....the way around this is to work cash Job which doesn't require SIN...with cash direct job, you can definitely work more hours cuz there is no way government would know since SIN isn't involve....with this, money can be saved but again working more hours would deter you from concentrating with studies which in-turn affects school grades plus its ILLEGAL!!(A friend almost got caught doing this)....The only legal way to do this is to work Full-time during scheduled break(You can work your a$$ off and make up to $10000 within 4 months break).... ......

Thanks Chrigo. This is what people need. A detailed, no holds barred discussion on the issue. Let people be told the possibilities, the risks involved, and the ways around them. I remember a while back when someone (i think Siga but not sure) was advising guys to learn how to barb hair. Another person was telling of how people go up north to plant trees during long breaks. I am sure there are other skill stets apart from barbing and hair making that peeps can put to use when they get there. Those who know should tell. There must be ways people can make money beyond the 20hrs a week rule and thereby cater for themselves. Those who have experience on other legal ways that the less priviledged have used to earn extra bucks should share so that others can plan ahead. It is good to warn people about challenges but it is better to suggest possible ways around such challenges.

faith92:
Hello everyone. ..I would love to know how the required b.sc grade of B+ fit into Nigeria ' s grading system...is a 3.5 CGPA equivalent to a B+ ? Cos the school I want to apply to require a B+

Scale 1 Scale 2 U.S. Grade Equiv.
A/AB 70-100 A
B/BC 60-69 B+
C/CD 50-59 B
D 45-49 C+
E 40-44 C
F 0-39 F

Your 3.5 is equivalent to 70, which is an A! I bow and tremble

AriseOCompatrot:
Scale 1 Scale 2 U.S. Grade Equiv.
A/AB 70-100 A
B/BC 60-69 B+
C/CD 50-59 B
D 45-49 C+
E 40-44 C
F 0-39 F

Oops...that didn't come out right. I'll try again

faith92:
Hello everyone. ..I would love to know how the required b.sc grade of B+ fit into Nigeria ' s grading system...is a 3.5 CGPA equivalent to a B+ ? Cos the school I want to apply to require a B+

Scale 1 Scale 2 U.S. Grade Equiv.
A/AB 70-100 A
B/BC 60-69 B+
C/CD 50-59 B
D 45-49 C+
E 40-44 C
F 0-39 F

funmi14:
Oh thanks, na overjoy cause am.. Lol. Dalhousie Univ-corrected.
Please is IOM do work on Saturday?
Thanks

Yes they do!

montrealer:
I agree with Arise, even though it is tough and difficult, if the doors have been opening I would advise the individual to go for it. Bearing in mind that people with very bouyant bank statements or who have wealthy sponsors have been denied visas, so if despite the limtied funds, one is somehow able to get admission, then TRV, I'd say hustle for the ticket money and start living your dream one day at a time. It might require working long hours, deferring graduation and finishing after your colleagues or even completing the program and then working off to pay off one's debt before collecting the certificate but it would be possible.

The question is, how prepared is the individual to face the challenges? Everyone who comes here and succeeds does so because they are willing to pay the price which I might add, varies for each individual. No be the same wahala we go face but we go face am and we go rough am, as God dey our side.

Word!

funmi14:
Hello House,
Medical Call just drop now oooooooooooooooooo.
God be praised.
Applied May 25. Msc Health Administration (MHA).... Dialhouse Univ. NS
Please who know if IOM/ Children practice do work on saturday. Fortunately, I came to Lagos from my village to do something this evening, wish I can do it tmrw before I zoon off by Sunday.
Thanks.

Congrats! But please ensure you always spell your university name well so that the dean of your faculty will not vex and increase your school fees

DENNYFLEX001:
she is on January start date. she will be taking associate degree in social service. my uncle is the sponsor but with different surname. it is on a company and personal level.

Your Uncle should provide her with

His personal bank statement and the corporate bank statement
A personal sponsorship letter stating what items he will be responsible for (tuition or living expenses or both) and stating exactly how much he will make available for her
A corporate sponsorship letter stating what items the company will be responsible for (tuition or living expenses or both) and stating exactly how much the company will make available for her
CAC documents proving his ownership of the company
An affidavit of sponsorship
A document showing some form of relationship between them. Maybe a family tree diagram linking them and a picture of both of them together

That's about it. I'm sure others will chip in anything i might have left out.

Omonjoe:
It was not detailed on the acceptance letter just "Cooperative Education" written in bracket.
I am resuming January 2016

Seems like "Cooperative Education" there is referring to the name of the programme and not to the availability of Co-op placement. Were you informed by the school or did you see it on their website that this course has a Co-op/Internship placement as part of the programme?

berexio1:
Just a candid advice: Anyone who still thinks of applying online for Fall(Sept) is advised to take the paper route. With the current backlog, we foresee a trend of 8weeks for the waiters....

I jump and pass!

Bobola86:
Thanks for taking it easy on me lol. Probably you didn't understand where am going or I didn't explain properly. Anyways, I was just saying. And I didn't contradict myself by saying i wrote a short one. I wrote that to make something clear which is am not discouraging anyone from writing neither am I saying writing one is bad in anyway but to be conscious so your words won't be used against u.

Great point sir! I totally agree.

mevisbleek:
Ehen brother,

1) the regular cic forms
2) sponsor personal soa with 74m and 30m fixed deposit (sponsor biological father). Plus sponsor data page
Doc of sponsor physical asset (plaza in lagos). Sponsor letter of sponsorship
3) transcripts from undergrad, masters and Nysc certificate.
4) sop (with plenty English which didn't work lmfao)
5) applicant data page with passport copy containing valid 2yr UK and USA and french visa (expired french visa)

The dude was coming for diploma sait after a master's degree from UK. He got phd admission in UK and will pursue that for Sept intake.
Well I advise him to go to UK for phd or begin import tokunbo toilet seat since his papa is into business. Lol.

Lol...I'm happy you've taken to the humorous part of this because meeeehn, when I saw 74m and 30 from biological father and still denied my first reaction was....BLOOD OF MOSES!

Bobola86:
I think most people mess up their application with their SOP. This is an optional document and we or better still I have seen successful applications without SOP. Funny when people give SOP as the reason for denial sometimes telling the delayed person to write a better SOP. As much as submitting a simple and well detailed SOP might help an application, a lot of things can go wrong when you submit one too. For example, trying too hard to convince the VO or whoever reviews the application. That sometimes show signs of desperation which might lead to been delayed. IMO, explaining why u chose a particular program or the benefits you will derive from your intended study makes up a SOP but most people went as far as trying to convince the reader to grant his or her trv thereby giving "too much information" which eventually affects the application. Some people needs to keep some details to themselves. Other factors like Grammatical error e.t.c. can also affect a SOP. I don't believe much in a SOP (I wrote a short one nway) cos I believe if your document isn't right or gives some kind of negative alert like bn a potential immigrant on your app, SOP can do nothing! We all need to be careful with some documents we submit too. Some shows sign of bn too desperate. If you are real and genuine, you don't have to prove too hard or include some irrelevant details. I rest my case. Well done to everyone helping on this forum. #PleaseDontCrucifyMeForThis #HealthyArgumentsAreAllowed #JustThinkingOutLoud

Leveraging on your hashtag #HealthyArgumentsAreAllowed, I beg to disagree sir!

You need to provide us with EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE as to how many people applied with SOP, how many applied without SOP, and what their respective success percentages are. You stating that most people mess up their application with their SOP is generalization. The fait accompli is you saying I don't believe much in a SOP (I wrote a short one nway) Contradiction!

Meanwhile, I suggest we start calling this thing LOE as that CIC calls it instead of SOP. Almost got me confused when I was applying.

meddybrown:
Pls how do I arrange my documents
My autobiography
Letter of intent
Statement of account from sponsor
I.D card of sponsor
Letter of employment of sponsor
Last promotion letter of sponsor
Certificate of busines of sponsored
Letter of contract awarded to the sponpor's company
sponsor letter
Acceptance letter, police clearance, my neco certificat, TOEFL result, cert of birth, certificate related to the course I am going for and pictures of the work have done. Going for a school of makeup

Lol...@autobiography. When I grow up sir, I want to be like you.

DENNYFLEX001:
Hello House,
My younger sister got admission at UVIC and I need the guys in the house to help me list the sponsor document (including company documents)or direct me to the page. Thanks

UVic? Really What course and what entry (Fall/Winter)? I'm heading in the same direction hence my excitement.

You need to disclose more about the sponsor(s) so peeps can advice on what documents to tender. 1 or 2 or 3 sponsors? Do the sponsor(s) bear the same surname with the applicant? Are they sponsoring on a personal or an a company level? etc

Cheers!

mevisbleek:
Just got info from my couz, they dulled both of them Lmfao. They will submitt uk visa app on Monday. Applied online may 8, dulled today.
Still waiting to hear from the last person.

Chei!

Some people's heart just skipped a beat. That if a whole Agent MevisBleek (na joke I dey o) applied for people and those people got turned down, which hope do the agent-less ones have?

Hehehe...

Beedempsey:
Hi again with everything I said above you are well informed


Yes the job is with stanbic IBTc
I am 25...

My PGD plan cm about after d sch for masters didn't give me admission so d plan is I do d PGD nd then do d masters after words.


But the truth is God has a way I know dis but I Dnt kw d future my fear is what happens if I Dnt use dis visa doesn't dat affect d future plan of doin matters later

Am staying in Nigeria when I can b in candan av a beta life nd moving closer to Smtin beta..

I understand in d end it's my choice but i don't want to make a decision without being informed of all my choices and chances.


Thanks for bothering u guys but I assure u of God's blessing as you help me straighten my life.

I find this dilemma of choosing between education and employment quite interesting. You should be thankful to God that you have the opportunity to choose between two good options. That is a luxury!

With what you have explained above, I would lean towards you taking the job and working to get admission into a Masters programme. The job you got is more in line with your career aspirations than the PGD programme you got admission into. Your not using the Visa now cannot affect your plans to do masters latter because you will have tangible reasons to present as to why you declined the opportunity to travel.

I'm sure that the same God who gave you the two good options will guide you as to which to pick.

Cheers!

justwise:
Funny question, simple answer...not easy to come back empty handed.

its madness for anybody to leave Nigeria to Canada or any country in that matter without school fees or maintenance money. Pure madness.

Forgot about whatever you read here, don't do it if you want to remain sane.

I agree with you hundred percent sir!

But the discussion is about leaving without all the money needed and not about leaving without any money at all. Nobody would do that. There are people here who want to apply for a 2 year programme with tuition of 15,000CAD per annum. If all such a person has right now is 10,000 CAD, should that person apply or shouldn't he apply? And if he applies and gets admission and gets TRV, should he travel or shouldn't he travel? That I believe is what the discussion is about.

I await your perspective

tnuola:
This is one thing pple should understand.
I believe all the people encouraging pple to go to canada without tuition are still in Nigeria and that's why they don't get that its not easy.
Pple will now enter after heeding to such advice and end up doing illegal stuff to meet up.
It is well sha.

Tinu, your conclusion above is a bit off-tangent. No matter how much you stamp on a cockroach, it will never spew blood. Why? Because there's no blood inside its system. Likewise, no matter the adversity on a morally upright person, he'll never resort to illegality in times of adversity. Those who will do illegal stuff in Canny will also do illegal stuff in Nigeria, Iran, New Zealand, or even in Czeckoslovakia! They will not do the illegal stuff because they ran out cash but because they have illegality inherent in their character. There are female bankers in marketing department who are sleeping with people to meet target. If those ones go to Canada, they will turn to prostitution when times of adversity arise. But there are also female bankers who aren't meeting target and who are at the verge of losing their jobs but have still refused to succumb to the temptation. If those ones go to Canny, they will not resort to illegality when adversity arises.

You stated in an earlier post that I would never agree or advice anyone who doesn't have their complete tuition for the duration of their studies to travel, with the hope of working to make up for it..... Really Please think about that for a second. That is a VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY counterproductive stance. Whether it has to do with studying in Canada or getting married or building a house of applying for a job, anybody who waits for all the stars to align before making a move is not likely to amount to much in this life.

There are people who have left the shores of this country with less than a quarter of the financial requirements for their education and right now, they have their degree. How did they make it? That is what we should be striving to know. There are also people who have gone with more than hundred percent of the requirements for their education but have ended up in illegalities like drugs, yahoo runs, and the likes. How did they end up like that even after all the stars were aligned in their favour?

The very first sentence i made in my contribution to this contentious discussion was Money should NEVER be the reason why someone does not attempt something. and I stand by that 100%. Don't discourage people from pursuing their dreams because of lack of funds. When they take a step, heaven or the forces, or God (depending on your religious inclination) will take a step in support of them too.

pcachuks:
Too funny !!!!!! U are right jor. lol!!!!!!!! more preferable to have headache in a Range Rover than in a Keke Napep

Hehehe...

pcachuks:
Exactly what i wanted to say , guys if you have job that pays you above 200k please just stay back in naija . he no easy for Canada oooooo......even if you get the career job here its still no easy ooooo .

E no easy for Canada? Yet you no gree return to Nigeria (Pun intended). Rich man get headache, poor man get headache too. But my brother,I guarantee you that it is more preferable to have headache in a Range Rover than in a Keke Napep

mevisbleek:
Hi Mr Arise,
How are you today? I noticed you advised him to carry his Kaya and head to canada, hmm. He mentioned that he got a career job, don't you think it would be wise for him to do the job for a couple of years and go on study leave? After working in a professional outfit in canada for 5+ yrs I can categorically tell you that career jobs are difficult to come by.

Chairman, I remain loyal sir! My response is as follows:

Check the second paragraph of my post that you quoted. That carries more weight than the third paragraph. In the final analysis, only she can make the most informed judgement on what career path she should follow. Also, I put a glaring caveat there that my advice was very biased! I'd still give it again and again sha. She threw a very general question and i threw a very general response. If she wants better advice then she'd have to give better details of the situation which I'm sure she won't want to do publicly.Questions like how old she is, what PGD program did she gain admission into, what are her career goals, etc need to be known in order to give a more holistic advice.

Having said that, the biggest pension company in Nigeria is StanbicIBTC Pensions (my sister, if na dia u get work, after you give your first fruit to God, abeg try bring the second fruit to me o!). How much do they pay entry level staff and how much will they be paying her 5 years from now? Now compare that with what you earned on your first job in Canada and what you are earning now (five years later).

Would appreciate it if you could clarify what you mean by career job. She didn't state what she studied in her undergrad so i'm not sure it's safe to conclude that this job is in line with her career goals. She only said it's a good place to start a career. I guess that's tempting enough for her to hold onto as per bird-in-hand. But i also want to pose this teaser...if her credentials are good enough to get her a job with a major company in Nigeria, they are probably good enough to get her a job in a minor company in Canada, which will still give her better options going forward.

Meanwhile, say i de dispute with you nor mean say i don do freedom from being your apprentice o! You remain my Shiaman sir!

Beedempsey:
Hello Guyz before I start this story will lik u to kw dat every input is important as I av never been dis confused...

So I applied for visa for PGD.
So in Feb I did a test for a major pension company in Nigeria av totally forgotn abt dem as did didn't get back to me.

Recently everything just happened so fast I was called for their interview nt lng again got their medical call right about now I jst got an offer

It's a good one its not abt d money but a good place to start a career.

I need your advise do I take dis job or be going to Canada jeje.

Am a silent reader kindly help a sister..i need all d advise I can get Thank you.

From what you've written above, it is not clear whether or not you have gotten your TRV/Study Permit.

I am quite sure that when you see your TRV in one hand and your job offer in the other hand, a still quiet voice would nudge you on which of the two to embrace. Follow that voice and not any Nairaland voice.

However, if you want my advice, my very free, very biased, yet very germane advice, CARRY YOUR KAYA GO CANADA! You will always get another job but you will not always get another TRV. Which brings me back to my very first question...have you gotten your TRV?

bosypumpin:
June 12th, U of M (LL.M) ; Fall 2015; Online

June 12th ke?

Abeg you for allow MKO rest in peace na!

laureek:
Each person to his faith o. From what I know, It is almost impossible to pay your tuition fee from your weekly 20 hours job.That money you get is basically for upkeep, House rent, transport and food. You will most likely get half your school fees working several hours (40 hrs or more), with may be two jobs and saving for months ONLY during the HOLIDAY and of course as a student.E go tell for body say you work sef.
If you have just 4 hours of lectures a week, you will definitely have crazy assignments that will not make you remember you need to work.You work for every cent you make in this country.Na only naija you fit sit down in front of computer dey browse facebook and you get paid for it.

Money should NEVER be the reason why someone does not attempt something. It is better to try and fail than to keep wondering whether or not you would have made it if you had tried. If someone gets admission, gets visa, and then manages to get flight ticket, haba...even if he cannot afford first semester tuition, he should by all means GO! If the door opens, by all means walk through it! If you get pushed back, hey, you'll still end up at the same spot you would have been if you didn't take the step, so, nothing spoil.

It is not only by working than people can get money to pay tuition. What if you get a scholarship in the second year? What if you get an idea that you can sell and make a breakthrough? What if someone you meet over there is willing to help you with half a semester's tuition? There are several other ways money can come your way apart from paid employment.

If you don't have money, then you don't have money! But I can bet you that it will be easier to convince someone to borrow you 100k to complete you school fees when you get stranded in Canada, than to convince them to borrow you 1k to feed when you get stranded in Nigeria.

I've used a couple of extreme examples here but my point is this: the race is not to the swift, the battle is not to the strong, and Canadian education is not to those that have the money for it. Time and chance happens to all men. When its your time you better take your chance!

Onyeoma3:
CANADA ANTHEM

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

As many are the TRV HOPEFULS: including those waiting for admission, those yet to apply for TRV, those delayed recently, those waiting for medicals, those awaiting TRV and the latest TRV choppers.... The next Canada day will be celebrated by you all on Canada soil so you can enjoy the sweet Canada Anthem and the dividends...

Happy Canada Day to everyone....

I say a big AMEN to that!

effectplus:
Tanx bro...really appreciate u advice....

Meanwhile, that's a solid GPA and there are quite a number of schools that would offer you some form of assistance/funding for that.

Giov:
sorry just wanted to know if u can only seek or apply for funding if u have already been admitted as a student or once you feel u qualify,and u intend taking up studies in the said field, den u can apply.

In a most cases, you'll have to be admitted first before you consider or are considered for funding. If your program is research based, the turanshi is a little more. In some cases, if there's no funding for the program, you can't even be admitted in the first place. All in all, the onus is on you to understand the funding dynamics of the school/program before you apply. Like i said earlier, you can do this through the FAQs on the program website, through direct contact with the program coordinator/secretary, or through first hand experience from Nairalanders who have applied to that particular school. So maybe you should let us know what school you are considering and what program?

Giov:
sorry just wanted to know if u can only seek or apply for funding if u have already been admitted as a student or once you feel u qualify,and u intend taking up studies in the said field, den u can apply.

Different schools have different policies on funding.
Some don't offer funding at all.
Some offer and don't require any separate application for funding, once you are admitted, you are automatically considered for some form of entrance award (scholarship), so they share different amounts to different people depending on grades and other factors.
Some give funding based on financial need, thereby requiring you to apply for financial assistance which they can give to you either through scholarships or through Teaching Assistantship.
Others give based on availability of funds for the particular program. If they have grants from the government or private organizations for that particular program, then they can give you part of that but if not grants, then nothing for you.

Different programs/schools, different policies. Check the FAQ sections of the program website, more often than not, all possible questions on funding have already been answered there. If not, contact the program secretary, they are used to this type of enquiries so they'll be more than willing to clarify issues for you.

effectplus:
Hello house....pls, I got dis mail from my prospective sch, wen I made enquiry about my eligibility to b considered for funding for my Masters programme

"Hello,

Much of the information you seek is on the Department of Gender Studies website.
Please consult it. The baseline funding grade average you must meet is 75%.

I would not send an application for Fall 2016 until January 2016 at the
earliest.

Best"

Pls....75% based on wot...?.....is it on my CGPA, cos I graduated 3.60 overall 5.00 in sch.....
Make u nah shed more light for me oo...abeggi

Yes...75% based on your GPA. Your 3.6 is about 72%. However, always remember that though these people have minimum requirements, they also consider other factors for both admission and funding. For example, years of work experience or published research work. So if you have stuff that can augment your grades, detail them in an email and send to the program secretary of your department and ask what chances for funding you have with that package.

Phronesis2:
@Team12 and all the gurus in the house, pls i need ur advice. am expecting a new job probably starting next month, and i have already applied for my student visa. when i receive my TRV what are the chances of retaining my financial assistance from my professor for next year?

Your school is in the best position to answer this question.

mevisbleek:
Shares can easily be liquidated so I don't think it should be an issue

When Nigerian Brokers issue stock valuation, they list ALL your shares, both liquid and non-liquid. There are quite a number of shares listed daily by the Nigerian Stock Exchange that have share prices but CANNOT be sold. If I know this, then the VO probably knows this too. Therefore, bank statement is one million times more favourable that shares valuation statement as proof of financial capacity. Financial capacity is not the only thing that the VO considers before issuing a Visa, therefore, neither 10m in cash nor 10m in shares can guarantee you TRV; but it is still better to present cash (SOA) instead shares.