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AmuDimpka:
Hmmm but it's a cultural thing... I see selling of Asoebi as a subtle begging. Why disturb people to buy clothes that you have inflated and if they don't buy you label them as enemies...that is coercion and begging. In my place you either tell people what to wear for you and give them sample to use their hand and but or you buy and share to them. .that is what is done in East

Also If i talk they would look at it as being tribalistic but I think that begging is in some people's culture and unfortunately that is what it is...how can someone beg money to celebrate party! I mean how can a neighbor come and beg you for clothes and perfume! While growing up in the EAST I didn't witness it....it was a cultural shock when I came to Lagos

How can young men decide not to do anything and they would greet you 20 times daily and this is funny. In Igbo land , if you greet a man once he would answer you , if you greet him second time he might answer you but when you greet him the third time, he would call you and ask you why are you greeting him up and down ...weather you don't have anything to eat.

Just look at this Covid holidays, just few days people are begging ..imagine what the Igbo faced for 3 years ! With all due respect amongst these tribes in Nigeria , it is rare to see Igbo, ijaw, Benin (Edo) or even Calabar folks beg especially here in Lagos ! It's only the hausa and Yoruba that do that.... Most often ! Without being tribalistic

There are these guys that clean gutters at Ikeja roundabout, they would stay in the gutter and with their shovels and be begging you...I was forced to tell them one day to focus on their work and finish in time to get paid! And use the money ! It's here that I see youths just block road and ask people to pay them in traffic hold up ! It's begging !

I don't get it.. in some cultures begging is acceptable and I stand to be corrected! I am talking from the experience of one that have lived in Benin, East, and Yoruba and North!

Stop lying! I have bought Aso-ebi for igbo ceremonies here in the east. A friend was just complaining about spending 35k on aso-ebi including sewing for a wedding that's bm put on hold here in the East. Of all ur epistle, u only sound like a bitter tribalist. One that has to leave his own Eldorado for the beggarly West!

Theflint1:
Like I said before, I can't pretend to have an answer now, it's a difficult one.

Hahahahaha

I think this ends this thread!

Dear OP, the choice is urs to make. However, ur bro must be made to realise his grave actions otherwise ur digging ur own grave too. Grace must be well taken care of and immediately returned/removed from your house. Like i said rape is not zee world wherein u can ask the victim to forgive n forget what she's just seen/experienced. Ur family's safety matters especially ur innocent kids and husband.

I wish you well and pray your bro becomes sober n desist from his wayward ways.

Shalom!

Theflint1:
I assumed you'd pursue the case as you would for your child, seeing that you were responsible for her, but reporting the case to the authorities is fair enough.

Thank you! So would u av reported too? Not even talking bout pursuing justice now.

Pls YES / NO
DON'T CHICKEN OUT

roseb1:
See as u talk am as If e dey very easy. If the rape crime kon carry death sentence will u boldly do the same? Will ur family( especially ur mom ) even let u do such? Abegii make we hear word. Bunch of hypocritical dimwit

So in ur mind u think i wld tell my mom before reporting to the police? The actors in this case r even orphans cos i cant rationalise y u keep mentioning mums! Or so u think if the kid had a mum, she would have accepted 100k like u would? Uv copied ur fellow evil defender's "hypocritical dimwit" lingo.

Now pls tell me, what should the OP do to her rapist bro and the defiled 11yo kid?

Theflint1:
It's a very difficult position to be in and I won't pretend to have an answer to it. However, my focus would be on the child and I'd do all I can to ensure she never finds herself in that kind of position again.

Would you pursue your brother's crime and ensure he serves maximum prison time?

Will u keep kwayet pls?

All you crime defenders keep coming up with stories for a simple question!

U asked me and i responded. I asked u back ur typing genesis to revelation!

I have done my utmost civic and natural responsibility by reporting to the law enforcement authorities.if they so wish to let the matter slide n then discard the case, its within their purview. Its within the right of the police to determine which case proceeds to trial after due investigations. But atleast theres a record of complaint.

Dnt put words in my mouth oga!

Theflint1:
Will you pursue the crime and ensure your brother serves maximum prison time?

Sir, would u pls answer my qstn too n stop interrogating me?

Theflint1:
We're going too far with this future predicting talk. Nobody knows what the future holds for the kid so we can give that a rest. My question was what you would do if you were in the OPs exact shoes.

I would report my bro to the police!

And what wld u do too??

Theflint1:
Nobody can predict what happens to the child. The kind of life she ends up living would depend on the support system she has around her, luck and how she reacts to the event. You can't say for certain that being a victim of rape has ruined her chances of living a fulfilling life.

This is getting interesting! So the rapist and his accomplice shld definitely live a happy n fulfilled life? What kind of luck r u referring to here? That she would meet a yahooboy or sugar daddy who wld spoil her with money? From the OPs narration, do u in honest mind think that poor girl has a decent support system? She stays in a house where she's assaulted for even crying and further assault for trying to say the truth? Do u think that was d first time d girl was bn battered? Dont u realise that the OP's wicked maltreatment of the kid myt have influenced the rapist bro from hatching and implementing his rape plans? Because he sees the kid as a worthless slave n an orphan which unfortunately he is too! I'm not a lawyer but this isnt right and theres no justification for it howsoever!

ibkayee:
I actually get what you're saying, I don't think you're saying he doesn't deserve serious punishment for the heinous crime, but that if we look at the pattern of Nigerians, the average would 'settle' it as a family matter or worse, sweep it under the rug. Nigeria's 'system' is designed in such a way that both allows and forces this kind of response. It's f*cked up and I wish that idiot would get the punishment deserves

I don't think the people asking for him to be arrested are 'hypocrites' per se though, they know how bad their country is and more than likely want justice, despite the system that's set up against this, but they can't exactly tell the OP to settle it with family...not that simple either

I wish these things were taken more seriously in Nigeria, it's so sickening, poor little girl. The legal system is just useless, especially when you don't belong to a certain social class

I swear! Goto police stations and c constables "settling" cases of domestic violence! Its not as if some women or men (as the case maybe) were silent until death but the system stacks up against them.

In d sector i currently work, when a power thief is caught and handed over to the police for possible prosecution, before u know it the guy is back on the streets at the same game! U hear something like "E no kee pesin na, no b small hanging e do. Abeg free am!"

We all know the OP wouldnt turn her bro in n her posting this issue here was to justify her intending evil act. So i wont be a party to that!

Theflint1:
But if it were your brother and you were in the OPs exact shoes, what would you do?
Remember there's a lot at stake here:
- her brother stands to spend at least 15 years in prison.
- the OP could get kicked out of her matrimonial home (depending on how her husband decides to react).
- her immediate and extended family could ostracize her.
- there's the chance the OP might get some kind of punishment too for harboring an underaged child she's no legal guardian over.

In all of this, the victim remains the young girl and going by the way the OP treats her, she may eventually be kicked out sometime in the future for some flimsy reason. But can we truly say the young girl's life has been ruined such that she can never become a functional member of society again?

It's easy to say the OP should do this or that commenting as a third party but fact remains that most if not everybody would do something similar to what the OP has done and will not allow the law to take its course.

U my friend are very good fortune teller. Isnt it wonderful that u could see what wld happen to the culprits in line with our laws yet u werent sure of the future of little kid?

U need to open an office ASAP!

pocohantas:
You are very correct. I will do just what OP did. I will even set him up, maybe take him abroad.

I wonder why we don’t feel so much pity for women who maltreat their helps. I like to think the beating doesn’t stop the child from being something great. We call for their heads, we rejoice when they get arrested.

But not on this one, it is just vagina.

Once again, you all that share this sentiment, una try well well.

Very apt! I hope he understands ur point.

pocohantas:
That is their forte. Hit the nail on the head, no way!!! They can’t do that, because it will reveal their true and obvious stand- NO “PUNISHMENT” FOR THE RAPIST.

I guess they are all scared as the internet never forgets! Moreso its also an indictment on them that they dont rly believe what they trying to defend since ystday! Isnt that typical hypocrisy?

Brazenbabe:
The dumb trio should shock me naaaa
Give an appropriate punishment for the rapist please.



Pigs would fly first before whatever y'all say would make sense to me

We've been asking them oo uet they keep deflecting n clutching at weak straws. Picking holes in ur text and starting another round of delirium on it.

I have admitted bn an hypocrite, so pls crackkhaus n co, what should the OP do with her brother and Grace?

crackkhaus:
Chief priest I greet you, you're doing well.

How about using your direct access to the gods to become the wealthiest black man on earth?

The current occupier is alrdy one of us so no need for competition! However, if u were doing well enof, u wld av asked the gods to make u one instead of asking them to strike or change someone's destiny!

Love u bro!

crackkhaus:
Olokun strike you for assuming you can determine when or how I post.

Crackkhaus! Did u see my username: Asapeola? Do u no its an appellation used for a particular title in the occultic world? When u keep calling sango and olokun, we r here laffing at ur folly. Ur calling the gods to strike their chief priest? Ur not doing well bros.

Just answer my qstn!

ThothHermes:
Bla bla... Dem still dey on the matter.

When this kind of thing happens in your family and half of your family members are saying "let's settle it as a family matter," then you will realize that "rape apologists", "cultists", and all what-not are also in your family.

The internet is a great place to live out ones fantasies.

See not every family b like ur own! When ur female relatives (infant or old) get raped, ur own family can have an Umu-Nna meeting and present an award to the rapist! Every body cannot be like u! So stop forcing us pls.

Brazenbabe:
The crackhead never disappoints
Prosecute the rapist? Never! He is family.
Suggest on appropriate punishment for him? Naahhhhh He's not a hypocrite.
Won't I rather be a hoe than a rape apologist with verbal diarrhoea?

I'd rather be a man-w.hore too jawe! Las-las na to find country where hoepreneurship isn't criminal.

crackkhaus:
So why were you initially dilly-dallying and acting like it was someone else.

See, don't let me invoke Sango on your destiny.
You dey craze...

Bro, i just kinda remembered uv not really advised the OP despite all the back n forth!

Now crackkhaus, what is ur honest advice to the OP as that's y she posted the ish on here

Ayam waiting

crackkhaus:
You and I are not bros.

We started our conversation on a good note, only for you to get influenced by the hoepreneurs and then start throwing shots...now you're complaining when I return the favour.

Who were you referring to when you said you made someone admit the boy should be punished?

Come on, don't be shy..
If you have any integrity, you would say the truth.

I really like you and i had to respond to this one despite saying i was done. Yea! this what I'm talking about!! Clean clear message less emotions. Dont u feel better n less expectant if i was gonna respond with insults too? Notwithstanding, its u i was referring to, so u can go n kee urself!!

crackkhaus:
You must be a dolt.
Am I not the only one you've been having a conversation with here on the matter?
Who else would you have been referring to if not I?

Talking about mentioning names, was your name mentioned in my first comment on this thread before you took it upon yourself to be a reprobate of bad fortune?

You think you can outwit me, don't you.. you must be silly.

You see how God operates!
https://www.nairaland.com/5770039/social-etiquette-guarding-tongue

That is the link to the latest topic on the FP. Dont look at the messenger but the message. On that note i am done with you bro!

crackkhaus:
You must be an idíot.
Am I not the only one you've been having a conversation with here on the matter? Who else would you have been referring to if not I..

Talking about mentioning names, was your name mentioned in my first comment on this thread before you took it upon yourself to be a reprobate of bad fortune?

You think you can outwit me, don't you.. you must be silly.

Hey bro! U suffering from glaucoma or something? Ur not d only one i have responded to on this thread. So stop overreacting pls. Still ur advised to converse like a homo sapien n not some bayling. No insults just pure sensible and rational convo, or is that hypocrisy too

crackkhaus:
You are a reprobate.

Quote where I crackhaus stated that the boy should not be punished, or forever walk with your tail hidden between your legs.

You simpletons always try to mask your cognitive deficiencies by using an infant-level reverse psychology that can be seen a quarter of a mile away.

What a doofus...

Moreso y u so pained? I ddnt mention ur name as d "sinner" so y u frothing bro? Its rly a happy thing that there's still some conscience left in u and its pricking u. Otherwise ur not d only supporter of evil on this thread and i ddnt even quote u with my response. Abeg quit with these big grammar, i cant understand them! hence ur babbles r not hitting their targets. But cant we just argue wfout name calling or stuffs? Y shld u abuse me to pass ur opinions? Think abt it bro cos its not WWE!!!

crackkhaus:
There is an infestation of self-righteous hypocritical persons on this thread.

As if any of you can have your blood brother arrested if you were to be the one in the OP's position.

The above was ur very first comment on the matter! Absolutely reckless and most insensitive. If u think u can now come n b patching ur words, its only a pity. Ur insults r well disregarded cos no need responding on those. But trust me u need help!

Brazenbabe:
Why are you people so bent on pushing your abnormal reality on us?
Some of us won't pat our brothers on the back for raping a child, some of us would throw him out immediately.
After all some parents throw their daughters out of the house for being pregnant out of wedlock.
I can see you are so used to covering crime that anyone that speaks against it is a hypocrite.
It is not by force to agree with you naaa, Haba.

Me I have admitted to their hallucinations if it wld make them feel better and then reason like humans. One of them has admitted the boy needs to be punished. As the bible says, there is joy in heaven for one sinner that repents. I am happy too

The irony of this whole debate is that the acclaimed saints are actually the hypocrites!

While growing in the ghetto, a guy was caught stealing in a diffrent area and was taken to his house to b burnt to death ryt infront of his family! Years later another guy from the other side was caught and some people were saying the culprit b handed over to the police. Come see serious fight for area. The first thief's relatives wouldnt hear none of that!!

Y'all forming comrades and realist cos the little kid isnt ur blood and uv never met her, so y bother?

But no one is safe if there's a criminal on the prowl especially one that the society has refused to let him appreciate the import of his actions!

roseb1:
And if the rapist in question happens to be ur son( God forbid) u wont hesitate to bring his head on the chopboard. U think it is that easy. Talk is really cheap

And if the victim is ur only child? U seem like those parents that would collect 100k settlement from the rapist. U see rape is just the case here, there r other types of oppressive acts u or ur children may suffer in the future (like the case of the guy that bought a sim card once used by Buhari's daughter) and i just hope ud be dis benevolent and calm saying the oppressor has right to protect himself.

crackkhaus:
You're ranting like you're on your period. Are you a woman?

No where have I claimed that the boy did not commit a crime, no where have I claimed that he doesn't deserve to be arrested, and no where have I claimed that the little girl should not get justice.

My very first comment here only emphasized the fact that it is hypocritical of anyone to think it would be easy for the OP to have her own brother arrested, SIMPLE!

You're the one who came at my opinion even when I did not mention your name to start hyperventilating.
Are you tired already?

Now ur coming up slowly! Now pls focus on the crime. Should that boy be arrested or not regardless of how his sister feels?? Pls no long epistle. Just straight and precise answers.

roseb1:
Even if it carries a death sentence? Talk is cheap my dear

In ur mind Sebi its rape abi? Dont worry when he does worse things as i can c a pattern with the boy's character, I hope it falls on ur side. Then we would all gather here again to show our hypocrisy except u myt be too ashamed to tell the world.

crackkhaus:
Only in the mind of a dimwitted hypocrite can identifying hypocrisy be the same thing as abetting a crime.
You obviously can never understand the above when your mind is not developed enough to understand it.


And I'm not speaking for you or anyone else, I only made a play on your self-interest and I will say it again.. YOU will not have your brother arrested for raping your maid.

You can only deceive yourself here.

sted for raping your maid.[/b]

Bros! The matter at hand isn't about me or what i would do, ok? Is it too hard for u to shift ur locus to the crime. Y u keep repeating same stuffs like a broken record? Ok I'm an hypocrite and I wouldnt get my bro arrested if i were her! Can u now let go of ur d*ck and reason atleast like an homo erectus? I really wish i had a brother who could do worse to ur daughter and let the hypocrite in me be on display. Y u dis soul-less? If ur not really trolling, i really suggest u do a serious introspection. A criminal is about to set loose like a virus cos we dont where he's gonna target next and ur own focus is on me!!! E ma gbami ke!

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Brazenbabe:
What I find disturbing about that sociopath's posts is that he does not even have any reprimands for the rapist. According to the psychopath you are quoting, the rapist is a national treasure that must be protected at all costs!
Anyone that remotely suggests punishment for him is a hypocrite.

U sef see am! He has only in a few words said he'd strangle the rapist while he has dedicated all his grammar to explaining hypocrisy in a criminal matter n how its wrong for the boy to be punished accordingly, cos we r not in his sister's shoes! The tin weak me aswear!!!