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Billyonaire666:
The entire educational system is bullshitt, the curriculum was not designed with century 21 in mind. Those courses are mostly outdated. People are still being lectured about 9 planets in the solar system, that there are only 3 states of matter etc.

Are these not crazy people?

I will say, study how to make money using 21st century tools. Learn how to build houses, learn how to build phones, learn how to develop AI applications, learn how to make money via ecommerce. Learn to make money online generally. Study health sciences, pharmaceuticals and be useful.

Stop going to school, study online. Stop going to churches or mosques, learn about God online, stop wasting your motherffucking time in classes, it is useless, even if you get a job,

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the bossiest!
what do you have to say(advice) for engr student? mechatronics engr to be precise.

CSTRR:
I am an engineer.
And I have said my truth.

you only said 'your truth' but not the fact. case closed!

CSTRR:
If I had a child, I would ask him/her to either study Electrical/Electronics Engineering , Computer science or Nursing.

These are the courses of the future.

Any other course is nonsense.

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chai, wetin musa no go see?
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pls can you buttress your point? or are you speaking outta sentiment?
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pls where do you put
*mbbs
*bds
*mechatronics
*physiotherapy
*med lab
few to mention.
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man you are living in the past claiming to know the future.
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lest i forget, pls how do you analytically predict the future?
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and by the way, do you study engr or medical course. if no, then ur point is baseless!
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pls if you which to reply me, engage me with facts but not sentiments or subjective ideology.

SIAcademy:
Iyabor Ojo Suspended By TAMPAN Because Of Baba Ijesha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4GR6yq7ZlA

pls, how will that solve our problem?
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abeg carry your wahala leave this thread.

i will honourably mention @ basalt
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a nairalander studying in germany.
he graduated with 2.1 in geophysics, yet, he made his way to germany.
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you cn followup his thread on travel section.
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let @ gerrard listen,
if you want to japa, study any s.t.e.m courses and get good grade.
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if you cn't japa or wanna base in 9ja. pls and pls avoid physics, chem, biochem,microbiology etc. they have no particular profession to attach to. except teaching.
but rather, as science student, go study MEDICAL COURSES or in manageably cases engr courses or comp science. dn't study any physical science courses.
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pls, i beg be wise.
nt everyone know the 'know-how' to japa. not everyone is that exceptional to get a good grade. pls if u ar in any of this category, pls study medical courses. and the benefit is that medical courses aren't classified.
pls forget passion and go 4 what works!

tensazangetsu20:
Go on LinkedIn jobs and search for how many jobs exist for your course in Nigeria, Africa and globally.

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now, for those with japa mentality, listen!
your first engr degree doesn't matter!
cos with any engr course, you can venture into ANY I.T course at msc level!
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all that matters is your cgpa!
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i have a verifiable fact of a guy who got a fully funded phd scholarship to study informatics in u.s. he has is bsc degree in anatomy at oou.
anatomy to I.T?
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in as much you study S.T.E.M courses, your first degree doesn't matter alot when applying for a p.graduate courses, esp in I.T(the hotcake).
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if you are studying pet engr, mat engr, agric engr. dnt be dejected, you have alot of opportunities at P.G level.
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jst get good grade, and prepare to japa.
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@ Gerrard59
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get to know the difference between professional and non-professional courses.
by default all physical science courses including physics are research base i.e they are academic courses, so they don't fit to any particular industry or profession(except for research/lecturing). get that fact!
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and again, don't ever compare western education timeframe to what can be obtainable in 9ja.
in the u.k, u.s, engr is 4yrs(good and fine) i.e a 1yr difference.
bt do you knw dat medicine is 5yr in u.k and 4yr in u.s?
then why can't you call medicine a waste of time too?(infact it's 7yrs +nysc in 9ja).
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even at the undergrad level in nigeria, engr stud'nt have alot of opportunity compared to physics, eg local scholarships.
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get my fact right! physics is not a profession while engr is. never compare the two in terms of employment opportunity.
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pls, engage me with verfiable facts and proofs(references if possible).
i'm not interested in unverifiable personal experience or stories.

Gerrard59:
I did not study any engineering discipline and I finished in the top 1% of my class.

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haha!
you didn't study engr course?
that says it all.
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and by the way investment banks are opened to all courses, get that fact!
even in the big 4, any course can apply and work.
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pls what's the difference btw 4yr and 5yr? as in what makes 5yrs useless compared to 4yrs? cos 5yrs is 10times greater than 4 yrs abi?
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hello, i heard it's easy to japa for the poor dude. can you elaborate the process involved?

if it's that easy, everyone would have japa naw.

you said medicine has more prospect abroad? pls explain how.

apart from uk, pls cn u explain how a doctor can migrate easily to u.s, germany, canada?
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the problem i have with you is that you make things easier than they are(disillusioned). you don't speak with fact.
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for every words i say or counter, i have an obtainable fact to back it up.
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Gerrard59:
The essence of the thread is to let aspiring students know that it is way better studying Physics rather than wait endlessly for engineering courses which are five years (ASUU+ internal issues). Rather than waste so much time, do something which has a shorter time-frame and leave the system. Those (sub)courses can be done at Master level outside Nigeria.

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do master outside nigeria?
sound easy for that rich dude.
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but experience should tell you that those 4yr courses are 'hell' to graduate with first class compared to engr!
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but lemme ask, if a poor dude had 2.1 in physics and couldn't secure scholarship to japa. pls what's his fate in 9ja?
dn't tell me oil company. dnt tell me bank.
jst tell me an industry.
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let me tell you dis. it'll only take a physics grad to open ur eye of which am xpecting on this thread.

Gerrard59:
The essence of the thread is to let aspiring students know that it is way better studying Physics rather than wait endlessly for engineering courses which are five years (ASUU+ internal issues). Rather than waste so much time, do something which has a shorter time-frame and leave the system. Those (sub)courses can be done at Master level outside Nigeria.

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so one year is a big deal to you?
i laugh in swhali.
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hope u didn't forget that physics is 5 yr course in all university of tech.
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you are only talking from japa mentality, which by the way physics is top notch!

but as far as u ar staying in 9ja, bro study professional course!

apart frm oil company which industry can a physics grad work in 9ja?

mind u, anybody cn work in oil company, even an economics, a lawyer, a doc etc cn work there. so oil company is out of the eqn!

by the way what engr course do you study and what's your cpga?

jesmond3945:
mechatronics is jack of all trade master of none

MTCHEEW...
pls do you know what a mechatronics system is?
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once you don't understand sth ask questions.
stop spewing rubish at the highest hieght of ignorance.
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medicine combines biochem+anatomy+microbiology+physiology+pharmacology+etc... yet it is the master of all.
infact it's waste of time replying you!

Lordbinsmar:
God bless you Sir, I don't just understand why the nairaland programmers think maybe engineering and technology is all about programming.

I understand that programming is important in advancement of technology and has a great future.

But what about the guys working on fuel cells at Tesla? the guys working on new space craft materials at NASA? The guys working on developing energy efficient engines? The guys developing artificial heart? The guys working on hvacs and heat pumps? The aerodynamics analyst at airbus? The guys designing the concentrated solar power plants for future energy systems?

This is just to mention few. So far you have a solid GPA in engineering in Nigeria, have a great passion for engineering and not money.

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exactly, the mentality of any potential engr studnt in nigeria should b "to japa".
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after japa to say like u.s, germani, canada,, THEIR FATHER!
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engr is sweet once u knw d onions.

[quote author=atom080 post=103202260]though, i never agree totally with what the op said.
though the o.p is one side in the mentality of japa.
i wouldn't love to derail the thread, but i can't stop the truth from spreading.
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now listen everyone
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if you know that you are from humble background and don't know the steps to 'japa', but your option is to settle and be employed in nigeria. pls listen! as i say this from the bottom of my heart.
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for science student
go and study medical courses.
by all getting, get medicine or dentistry(mbbs or bds),
if you can't, go for nursing, pharm, medlab, physiotherapy etc.
never go for any engr course except you have passion and connection.
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don't let anybody cajole u to believing dat i.t rules the world. yes dat might me true yet even a farmer cn learn it(hyperbole).
wat do i mean?
i.t is for everyone, you cn dabble to it anytime.
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av u ever seen a doctor, nurse, dentist, pharmacy come on dis thread to complain abt life after school in 9ja?
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karleb !

Karleb:
Be realistic!

If 200 people apply for the so called scholarship, how many will get it? Even at P. hD level?

Mind you, 200 is like the average of graduates in each departments in most higher institutions in Nigeria.

How many people will have the so called good grades? Roughly about 70 percent of graduates have 2.2 and below.

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pls do you know what graduate assistance(G.A) Is all abt. pls research it. getting a fully funded phd is easy via G.A.
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if ur grade isnt gud enof to get u scholarship or G.A, then go to germany. the tuition is free! for the remaining process? there is a thread for it.
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pls mind you, anything below 2.1 can venture into i.t skill or entrepreurship.

Lordbinsmar:
I am not talking about the chances of mechanical engineering in Nigeria. Nigeria is a failed state, it doesn't matter the course you study in Nigeria.

Yahoo Yahoo, scam, and other social vices are the order of the day.

Most of my guys who studied mechanical engineering and have passion for the course are doing well. Most of the top guys got schorlarship to US and Europe.

i feel your vibes!
you think outta the box!

Karleb:
You people don't understand the essence of this thread.

For one, let me ask, when did you graduate? How many of your colleagues are now mechanical engineering practitioners?

Of course, a fellow with a P. hD can get a scholarship, but what are the chances of a fellow with B. Sc?

On what do you survive before you even think of going for M. Sc especially when you are from a poor home

Even if you got lucky, how about your colleagues who are over 200 in numbers? How about the ones that graduated before or after you?

While in other career path, people are getting more than enough to do with decent compensation.

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OMG!
i wonder how i'm exposed to things ppl ahead of me arent exposed. pls dedicate time to research.
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u dnt need to have a phd to obtain scholarsip. what's the need self.
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in the u.s you can do ur phd without msc. there are tonnes of scholarship and G.A right there. jst get gud grades!
that is why am nt moved
by d words of d naysayers here!

Lordbinsmar:
The OP knows very little about engineering, his view is myopic.

Just last week one of my mentor got a PhD schorlarship to do research in material science. She has a master degree in mechanical engineering.

Op thinks engineering is all about programming and artificial intelligence.

I have huge interest in sustainable energy, computational fluid dynamics(aerodynamics,turbulence and combustion), hvacs and thermal behavior of buildings. A first degree in mechanical engineering is one of the best decision of my life.

All engineering courses has equal chances when it comes to traveling out.

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OMG! see brain!
God bless you bro.
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lemme reiterate ur fact.
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"ALL ENGR COURSES ARE EQUAL WHEN TRAVELLING OUT".
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the major problem some of the engr student/grad here are posing are all 'indirectly' problem of bad cgpa! (sorry to say the fact)
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God bless you bro!

tensazangetsu20:
They aren't done in core mechanical engineering. There's no mechanical engineering syllabus that has embedded systems and robotics under its core. You don't even have the requirements to take them. You need c++ alongside knowledge of electronics to take embedded systems.

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mechatronics or MTE as a course has to do 'majorly' with robotics and artificial intelligence. .
it's hard for me to explain the superiority of MTE to others. but it's always uneasy to persuade the uninitiated. .
to fact check pls visit funaab website to check the course synopsis for mechatronics engr

@tensazangetsu20
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nurse entry salary is #70k, at federal level. pls be factual, dnt be sentiment why arguing.
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forget being fresher or recuit, engage with the cerebra!

@ tensazangetsu20
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you talk about what the doctors are facing in this country.
but the fact is that the PLIGHT of a doctor is different compared to other profession.
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doctor plight are not unemployment or job security bt the condition of their working environment(substandard).
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mind u housemanship is an easy thing. hardly av i come across a doc who miss out housemanship.
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entry salary of a doctor according to CONMESS or whatever. or better stil mysalarypayscale. com.
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at teaching hospt= #250k(jnr residence)
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Govt/general host.=180k+( g.p)
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Private host=(80k+)
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Though dat is 4 fed and private.

tensazangetsu20:
I come from a family of healthcare professionals and lawyers. Na stubbornness carry me go engineering. To migrate in healthcare you need serious money cause the salaries are very low and they are owed often for very long.

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boss you are right, but nursing is exceptional!
it is not expensive compared to any other form of migration.

tensazangetsu20:
Medicine don cast for Naija big time o. They have their own threads too where they cry. The financially bouyant ones are writing Plab to run. Theres no even space to write Plab again. Its overbooked. You need to go to Ghana to write. As for Nursing, max salary nurses are paid is 30k. .

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OH MY...!
boss, i used to respect ur versatility in the realm of japa. but you dey fall my hand.
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but is it new to you that the best, easiest and simplest way to japa out of this country is via nursing? i so so jealous nursing!
but y do you ridicule nursing like that?
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moreso, where do u got that salary report from? a private clinic?

[b]though, i never agree totally with what the op said.
though the o.p is one side in the mentality of japa.
i wouldn't love to derail the thread, but i can't stop the truth from spreading.
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now listen everyone
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if you know that you are from humble background and don't know the steps to 'japa', but your option is to settle and be employed in nigeria. pls listen! as i say this from the bottom of my heart.
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for science student
go and study medical courses.
by all getting, get medicine or dentistry(mbbs or bds),
if you can't, go for nursing, pharm, medlab, physiotherapy etc.
never go for any engr course except you have passion and connection.
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don't let anybody cajole u to believing dat i.t rules the world. yes dat might me true yet even a farmer cn learn it(hyperbole).
wat do i mean?
i.t is for everyone, you cn dabble to it anytime.
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av u ever seen a doctor, nurse, dentist, pharmacy come on dis thread to complain abt life after school in 9ja? but reverse is the case for engrs. [/b]

GreaterFuture:
Your body dey Sweet you

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pls can you leave sentiments and come up with facts?
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what does "your body dey sweet you" has to do with the topic?
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ok, lemme reply your comment.
just jot this down,
in the history of success, hardly have i heard of a MAN who achieve success easily.
no! it's not found on the platter of gold but, it is a product of work n toil.
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what do i mean?
nothing dey sweet my body cos i knw the reality ahead!
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though, i may sound too cocky to you or anyone. but i'm here to encourage those who might have been misled by some unfounded heresies in the thread.

Gerrard59:
It seems you didn't read the title: from a poor home, it's pointless considering the strike actions and should be done if the person is very intelligent. I've no business with those people or pages you mentioned. Their achievements not mine.

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OMG!
i don't love sentiments.
how on earth would you compare professional courses to 4 year courses.
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now take aside japa mentality, and joke apart, do u think japa is dat easy for a fresh grads?
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now back to my point, what shall it profit a man who study a non-professional course and couldn't japa at the end of the day.
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eh! man in life you need to be smart and calculative!
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where can you work with bsc physics if you cant japa compared to other engr course?
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you are only obsessed with plan B but neglect plan A.
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think stragetically while choosing a course. don't just play risky risky game.
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ok let's play it this way.
tell me what bsc physics can do and i will tell you how bsc mech cn achieve it beta

Nozino:
It isn’t. The OP was correct. I read Mechanical Engineering and Mech is literally useless in Nigeria. If it isn’t EEE, just study any 4year course and graduate.

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i never argue with the op.
and by the way, i talk about mechatronics engineering not mechanical.
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mechatronics combine EEE+MEE+CSC.
then reason it out.
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and by the way mechatronics itself MTE is more of I.T oriented.
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you only need to do a li2 research on the course.
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to state it better, for engr, go for EEE or MTE!
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never underestimate what u knw li2 about.
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i'm open to correction or reproof, but pls do it with facts and proofs.

Gerrard59:
Please go and ahead to study it, I wish you the best.

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AMEN!
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Yet, your response is not a fact i had wanted.
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let me give a little fact.
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facebook search 'ischolarinitaive'.
just scroll through their page.
there, u wl see one of their scholar, who studied mechatronics at fuoye. he won a fully funded phd scholarship to a prestigious uni in the u.s... yet he study mechatronics.
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also visit "educationusa abuja" fb page and see how engr students are getting fully funded scholarship in u.s(majority are mechanical guys).
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fact check ur self, dnt believe me for my words.
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i engage in facts, i love logic.

Mastakija:
See ehn
I dey talk am and i go still dey talk am
School na scam especially for dis 9ja
even in this present generation u fit bcome computer engineer and u myt not even study d course or even go to school
d best thing is dat you should b very productive with ur lyf
Make research works start learning new things online and outline
At d end of everything you won't regret it

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in summary, we shouldn't go to university again abi?
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try it and see how irrelevant you will be in the society of the educated elite in few years time.
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this is borne out of a myopic mentality.
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'BALANCE' ur statement by saying "go to school and learn a skill along side".
eqn balanced.

Gerrard59:
It is pointless if you do not intend to remain in Nigeria for the rest of your life. If you desire to japa to a sane society, you better study Physics or Elect/Elect engineering.

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sorry to say, you lack experience alot. what's your joy in instilling fear without an objective fact.
you only posted out of a subjective feelings.
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by the way do you know what mechatronics really is?
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if on the virtue of 'japa', i'm more versed in that!
i have an handful of friends who av japa to u.s and russia for their undergrads.
moreso, i've personally read and researched alot on this 'japa'. i'm not a tyro!

mechatronics is a top notch, believe it or not. though new in nigeria, highly recongnised overse'.
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pls when next you wish to reply me, pls do so with facts and logic. i dislike engaging with emotions and sentiments.

tensazangetsu20:
Do we have it in Nigeria? If it merges electrical and computer then all good but mechanical alone as a course of study is useless.

yes, some notable school offers it. it's relatively new though. i chose uniben precisely.

caesymore:
Mr. Op you have no clue...
your post is misleading

talking from 'JAPA MENTALITY', the OP is 100% correct!

@ tensazangetsu20
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what about MECHATRONICS ENGINEERING?

I think, it's the best of all.
it's the brigde connecting the three major engineering courses(mechanical+elect/elect+computer).
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moreso, it is a course that merge I.T with engineering.
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