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No accident should be termed "minor" though, but I tend to see this as "no life claiming accident" due to the nature of circumstances surrounding the vehicles involved. The 7up truck looks calm there, while others ran into it!

When its night, don't assume you know the road too well. There might be a vehicled parked in the middle of the road which could result into losing control!

nice

"Ojukwu is the Mandela of out time"


A contrast or simile?

taaaaaah, get away u....u need to go for re-evaluation!

They are all beneficiaries of Mandela's forgiving spirit.
the past was the past!

I have been following this thread, but never taken my time to go through...she was my reason for reading through.

She IS just the way D-exp described her.

Though we never had anything in common here, but I can't denied being proudly associated with u!

I pray u found grace before the throne of God.

i will brb!

190 misses her more!

Idowuogbo: Hey! How u doing? It af tay small o....

I am good Madam ID.
na job matter o......person don waka tire o.....my shoes sef don chop finish!

howz ur end?

i dey miss U sha

Many NLers have actually died, we are just privileged that someone from here knows someone from here, thus the SAD news!
may her soul rest in peace.

"life is too short" she once told me!

We will surely miss you. Coming across your posts and threads, reminders!

Who is next? NOBODY abi?

Finally....the Legend has gone to rest!
RIP Sir!

angel TI: They all look good including toke sef. Agbani needs to add a little flesh pls; she looks good too though

God pls 2014 is my year. You that did Lola and Tiwa's own will surely do mine AMEN

Ur ticket is "being a good girl always" and it will surely be!

duni04: Funny hw its a thread about male infertility nd its mostly women posting here, thread was even started by a woman

The males are so egocentric that they could keep mute and die in their problems without sharing!

The fact that he can't impregnate his wife alone is tormenting let alone of people knowing about....SHAME!

The ladies are at the receiving end, and they are gonna be tagged "barren" whereas na d husband dey fvck up.

Na the ladies e dey pain pass, hence the thread!

Body odour is just like cancer, HIV and the likes of terminal diseases.

Na only those who get money fit maintain am..simple!

Just make sure that ur new born baby is instantly bathed thoroughly after birth......some body odour na die (the GIDI GANs)....You go even dey SEE the odour under those perfumes worn!

enjoy!

very very very sad indeed.
young and bright lady!

may her soul rip, and may the perpetrator(s) be brought to justice,

That Dude aint Marwa!

felzylix: ...........Cries from other pupils in the class reportedly attracted other teachers who rushed to the scene.......
.......

He must have flogged the hell out of the pupil!

birds of a feather they said flock together.....how will a dirty personality match decent and responsible lady?
work on yourself and see doors opening!

It wouldn't have been like this if they were all having shares from the money.

still, it created jobs and still boost the Country's assets no matter how minute!

mismanagement, coupled with the fact that Wyclef wasn't always around.

Though disappointed, but relieved!

Nice job the judges.
Tgirl, u gat a great husband.
Debaters, wishing u d best. May d best win.
Cc, I dey feel u.

Goodnight!

good night everybody.

to the judges, tgirl, the co-debaters )especially Lerrie), sandijey. alutacontinua and viewers, I take a bow!

KAI, this is very demanding o...this is gonna be my final debate on NL!

[quote author=Sisi_Kill]Do you have empirical evidence that waiting guarantees marital longevity?[/quote]I wouldn't say I have any.
but waiting has more advantages.

waiting indicates that one has a strong will, and it commands respect.

There is this particular lady I respect so much for not GIVING ME despite how much she loves me.....wetin i no do?

She says, " I should wait till the wedding night"

One's partner will even have courage and confidence in one!

"I know my wife/husband for one thing, her/his is no is always no and yes always yes"

Lerrie John: This is contestant 3 answers to contestant 7.


contestant 3, please can you educate me more please?

1. “SEX is a private, profound, physical and intimate act, that should be practised between two CONSENTING ADULTS. CONSENTING because anything outside of that is considered molestation, and ADULTS because of the mental and physical risk ( STDs, pregnancy, or heart breaks) associated with sex. “

My question: Consenting adults? Are teenagers also considered as adults in this regards. And based on the knowledge of a teenager, what does he/she know, let alone of consenting to a theory that involves mental and physical risk as you mentioned. And do you think an adult that is not married but prefers premarital should be considered as an adult. Age is just a number.

Dear contestant 7. Answering your question, a teenager is not an adult by law until he reaches the age of 21. Therefore, should not participate in any kind of sex, both marital or premarital until of age. Anything outside of that is molestation. By law age is not only a number,age holds you responsible for your actions. That is why under age children have parents and guardians responsible for them.


2. “In the African society, sex is highly frowned upon and considered "taboo", if practised before marriage. Not only is the notion of sex influenced by our traditional and cultural beliefs, it is also highly influenced by religious beliefs as well - where sex is considered to be a dirty and unclean act, a sin, and a thing to be shameful about. Notwithstanding these beliefs, statistics have shown that 85% of individuals between the ages of 15 - 45 practise sex before marriage. Why ignore the obvious? This brings me to defend my notion on why premarital sex, with a person with whom you are considering marriage or engaged to, is very important, and beneficial for both parties in the long run.”

My question: When 99% does wrong and 1% does right. Does that make the 1% wrong and 99% right? If that is the case, then I think corruption should be legal in Nigeria.

What is wrong and what is right? Every country has rules and laws as guidelines to establish these. When there is corruption there are laws that prohibit and punish such acts. There is no civil law that condemns two over age, consenting adults for having premarital sex.
Like I said, the notion of sex is highly influenced by our traditional and cultural beliefs, it is also highly influenced by religious beliefs and their repercussions have no civil value.

3. “Marriage is a life long commitment; and one of its fundamentals is absolute fidelity. This is because sex, plays an important role in determining marital longevity. How can one buy a car without test driving first?”

My question: if that is the case, then I want to believe that this refuted all your reasons for having premarital sex. Why do we still have cases of heartbreaks and divorces when sex is supposed to give marital longevity when they must have considered themselves intimate compatible before wedding? Now you are comparing a car to a woman. Like seriously?

Strangely, I asked you that question as well. Waiting for marriage before sex does not guarantee marital stabile, longevity, heartbreaks nor frustrations. Neither does waiting prevent you from diseases or unwanted pregnancy. Whereas premarital sex with a sole individual might prevent you from diseases if he is faithful as well.

I hope I have been able to satisfy all your curiosity. Thank you.

able to pick one or two things....thanks!

This is contestant 7 replies to contestant 3 questions

Lerrie John: I can assure you that there are cases of heartbreaks and divorces among individuals who marry as virgins, as well as cases of couples who engaged in premarital sex and have been happily married for over 35 years. And so my first question to you.

A couple got married in Nasarawa state 15 months ago and now the wife is filling her husband for divorce because of excessive intimate demands. Has not having sex before marriage saved this particular couple from heartbreaks and a most likely divorce?

and what makes you think that some men wouldn't inflate their se.xual demands once they marry. And I am certain a case of those couples happens once in a blue moon. that 1 marriage out of 100 marriages failed due to high demand of se.x hasn't called for the importance of premarital sex. And beside. many health factors surround this issue Lerrie.

Lerrie John: A married couple may choose to have an open relationship with other intimate partners (which does happen). A person may have pre-marital sex with the person they choose to marry, voiding this argument entirely. I see no basis for the claim "having multiple partners before marriage escalate trivial matters ."

Are you trying to say that it is ok to have multiple intimate partners after marriage, if that is what a married couple desire? Would the question of who is better that who not still arise?

Maybe you didnt read me well.
complaints from a partner for not being se.xually satisfied could throw the other partner into a realm of self comparison. "does it mean his/her ex gave it to him/her better than i do" and which also COULD lead to jealousy, "why cant i be like his/her former ex?"

Lerrie John: Imagine a case of two adult virgin ( this is for my opponent's benefit) who have decided to tie the knot. They announce their decision to their family members and friends, and fix a date for the wedding. These two now decide to engage in premarital sex months prior to the wedding date. They are both healthy, virgins, and have not had any past to create trivial matters. They have sex, bonded and discovered they were sexually compatible as well, and so went ahead to be married. They have children, and are happily married and would be grand parents soon.
Isn't that a wonderful story to tell your children about how mom and dad met? Isn't that enough encouragement on the importance of premarital sex?

I for one, will be more than happy to share that story with anyone while encouraging them to have premarital sex.
Like I stated initially, your reasons for waiting till after marriage are not grounded enough and lack evidence to prove your point.

Does it really make it right, even if it seems rightfully wrong?
A smart and intelligent child should be able to know that he/she is an outcome of deceit.
can you tell your pastor or members of the families openly that u had sex after the approval of marriage.

What about if the premarital sex they had had led to something like this;

Lerrie John: A couple got married in Nasarawa state 15 months ago and now the wife is filling her husband for divorce because of excessive intimate demands. Has not having sex before marriage saved this particular couple from heartbreaks and a most likely divorce?

debosky: Contestant 7 you said the following:



[quote author=debosky]These rhetorical questions do not address the rightness or otherwise of premarital sex, or is there a point here that I'm missing?

I am simply saying that premarital sex shouldn’t be encouraged since it won’t certainly guarantee marital longevity. Some that were involved have broken up. it is not a visa for long term marriage.

debosky: In what jurisdiction is it illegal? Is it illegal in Nigeria? Please explain further if possible.

Opposite of legal is illegal. What is not legal is illegal. Premarital sex is against the institution of marriage, and which makes it maritally or morally illegal.

debosky: Are you against sex in total, or claiming our ancestors didn't have sex, or that those alleged beneficial effects are only present in pre-marital sex? Please clarify.

I am not against sex in total, but disputing the alluring fact that sex is a miracle worker even when virtually none of our ancestors testified to this as a result of the years spent before they died. Most of them didn’t engage in premarital sex that would have cured them of some supposed illness. But the reverse is the case today.

debosky: Apart from females, any male perspective to consider here (in addition to the ex-girlfriends)?

I chose the females because they are always in charge. The can decide to lock or open as they wish. Imagine all the females in Lagos locking up. The males propose, but the females could choose to dispose. The females have the final say!
the males should only endeavor not to propose to avoid disappointment.

coogar: body being the temple of God has little to do with fornication & adultery. the holy book also says one can commit these sins with one's heart - one can commit fornication/adultery without necessarily having sëx.

STIs/unwanted pregnancy can also be prevented if the couple involved practise protected sex. your argument had enough substance without these 2 highlighted points that seem to have removed the heft in your submission.

can you shed more light on these points in case i am missing the big picture?

as a man thinketh so he is. if you commit these sins with your heart, then it means you have literally defiled your body (the temple of God) You need to ask God for forgiveness. it is just a warning to eschew believers from negotiating it. Sex.ual pleasure is very strong. it is easy to accomplish once conceived. So, DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!


We all do know that protected sex is not totally safe. Abstinence is the best! Condom is said to be 99% safe. What happens to the very dangerous 1%

This is contestant 7.
contestant 3, please can you educate me more please?

1. “SEX is a private, profound, physical and intimate act, that should be practised between two CONSENTING ADULTS. CONSENTING because anything outside of that is considered molestation, and ADULTS because of the mental and physical risk ( STDs, pregnancy, or heart breaks) associated with sex. “

My question: Consenting adults? Are teenagers also considered as adults in this regards. And based on the knowledge of a teenager, what does he/she know, let alone of consenting to a theory that involves mental and physical risk as you mentioned. And do you think an adult that is not married but prefers premarital should be considered as an adult. Age is just a number.


2. “In the African society, sex is highly frowned upon and considered "taboo", if practised before marriage. Not only is the notion of sex influenced by our traditional and cultural beliefs, it is also highly influenced by religious beliefs as well - where sex is considered to be a dirty and unclean act, a sin, and a thing to be shameful about. Notwithstanding these beliefs, statistics have shown that 85% of individuals between the ages of 15 - 45 practise sex before marriage. Why ignore the obvious? This brings me to defend my notion on why premarital sex, with a person with whom you are considering marriage or engaged to, is very important, and beneficial for both parties in the long run.”

My question: When 99% does wrong and 1% does right. Does that make the 1% wrong and 99% right? If that is the case, then I think corruption should be legal in Nigeria.

3. “Marriage is a life long commitment; and one of its fundamentals is absolute fidelity. This is because sex, plays an important role in determining marital longevity. How can one buy a car without test driving first?”

My question: if that is the case, then I want to believe that this refuted all your reasons for having premarital sex. Why do we still have cases of heartbreaks and divorces when sex is supposed to give marital longevity when they must have considered themselves intimate compatible before wedding? Now you are comparing a car to a woman. Like seriously?

Na wa for me o!

God actually did give us all these to make life beautiful and comfortable for us, but covetousness and greediness hold us captives.

I'm still enjoying mine sha...small small is the name of the game.

I don't understand why we can't read and understand simple English here.

That you don't like someone doesn't mean that your sense of reason should be recommended for re-evaluation!

Simple English.....8 hrs, Danfo Bus, A Driver!

Imagine Baba Saka driving from 4am-11pm...almost 20hrs. And everyday for that matter. We sure know that they don't drive 20hrs a day. The waiting for turn is worth refreshing!

A driver can only be steering-active for 8 hrs. And I wanna believe that having a conductor that can drive could be an advantage.

In Abuja, I have seen BRT driver stopping at terminals for checks...that also could be one of the means to keep a check on these drivers to know how many hours they have spent driving on the road. Each one will have a log book.

A driver can only be active for 8 hrs, but the bus can work for 25hrs if possible!

And besides, a time contraint wasn't given. It drives around the clock, just choose the convenient time!

Shikena!

Victosin09: There is always hope!

amen o!