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Shyeikul islam1: Are you admitting to the fact that you provided a false informationno....read my comment again....I said that my links are fine. Surely, you saw one from the bbc. I ask you again- how did islam come to Nigeria? If you cant answer the question, then there is no point engaging you |
Is the hijab now by force? Why do you have to call a woman's choice of not wearing the hijab an "excuse" https://www.rankingfamosos.com/imagenes/famosos/20110413/rania-de-jordania-30.jpg [img]http://2.bp..com/_cIUNPAo_V54/SMS1MLZfHHI/AAAAAAAABVM/CTNqq5aADeY/s400/HRHSalma.jpg[/img] The queen of Jordan and princess of Morroco. Tell them that their choice not to wear the hijab is a silly excuse. |
cleanvessel: It is a pity. Heavens do not recorgnise religion. Religion is only an identity for those who have the same faith.Quality not quantity |
vedaxcool: "Logic"boy, liberal interpretation of Christianity like the Anglican church permitting gay bishops etc, christianity is adopting liberals views on its religious teachings . . . tomorrow the ungrateful being in you would call here a cave yet every now and then you sneaked into the cave, poor you! ![]() |
Shyeikul islam1: In Ireland where chriatains are slaughtering each other. right? But such news cannot make a headline since its not related to islamCome on.....this is not the 80's or 90's |
tbaba1234: Beautiful pieceCriticising the west unfairly First and foremost, liberalism is a multi-dimensional word with many meanings to start with. To use "liberalism" just like that to criticise christianity and the west just makes the article look like lazy journalism. Liberalism as a concept has many facets and underlying theories and concepts. A simple wikipedia or google search will show you that Furthermore, not everyone in the UK is a liberal or suscribes to liberalism. There are many conservatives in the government who are socially/culturally conservative- especially with immigration and protecting "British culture". I would still have to admit that in general, the UK is a liberal society- which leads me to my last and most in point..... Liberalism did not defeat christianity. Liberalism is not a competing religion or way of life. Christianity declines with advancement, enlightenment and freedom. Take the top ten advanced countries in the world- all of them are secular. However, let me explain with the USA; the USA is the most religious country in the West (among "western" countries). However, the USA is facing its fastest decline in christianity over the decades in the last few years. Young adults are now becoming irreligious. What is the reason they give? Discrimination, evolution, the internet, restricting freedom, science etc.....all these things listed boils down to 2 facts -the internet is a source of knowledge that these people use to learn about religion which mostly turns them against it -these teens are demanding a logical explanation for societal issues that religion cant give- why discriminate against gays? why tell us not to wear sexy outfits? why are you against evolution? |
I will humbly ask the op and the mods to listen to people who are/were christians and also live in the UK to get a balanced view on this subject. As someone that has these characteristics, I wont lie that I am disappointed with the article. |
Why not put this thread on the front page so that christians can challenge it? If it is not fair to see islam from only the viewpoint of an ex-muslim, why then would it be ok to view christianity from an ex-christian? There are so many holes in the article 1) Overgeneralization tbaba1234: Beautiful pieceThe UK is a diverse country. There are lots of christians who practice their faith rigorously. Just because the avergae british christian isnt very religious, one should not discount the millions who are very religions. Furthermore, immigration being on the rise in the UK, we have many immigrant or international churches which are always full. For instance, there are West African churches in South london that are always full at every service or mass. Then there is ireland, where there are many pockets of "strong" christianity. The other generalization is that the author does not look at the USA or other christian nations. He uses his experience in the UK as the background for his point. 2) The false claim that religion is always about politics (a very odd point from someone who knows christianity) tbaba1234: Beautiful pieceJesus said "give unto Caesar what what is Caesar's and to God what is God's" (Matthew 22;21) The above quote has been used by christians to argue for a separation from church and state. Separation from religion and politics. The quote is one of the most popular quotes in the bible when it comes to politics. A muslim might not know this but it is appalling to find a christian who doesnt. Jesus was never into politics. He never took on any office. He focused on preaching the word, leaving the natural state of affairs in the society to the politicians. =============================================================== I could go on and on about the flaws in the article but let me leave it here |
Frosbel writes an interesting piece on this issue https://www.nairaland.com/739883/hypocrisy-child-abuse-many-muslim#8961544 frosbel: Some Muslims are fond of condemning western morality – alcoholism, nudity, premarital sex and homosexuality often being cited as examples. But Muslims do not have a monopoly on morality. In the west, child marriages and sex with children are illegal. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for many Muslim countries. |
tiarabubu: Why are you more worried about white priests and oyinbos while you ignore a bigger problem in your own backyard? They are perfecting their system, dealing with crimes committed decades ago, and allowing people like you in to make a life and religion in relative peace. Your own people have not guaranteed that for others neither have their system ensured justice for young girls and even babies (as evidenced by that fatwa) nor for religious minorities and you come here to talk of bigotry.Some of us tell it as it is. That aint bigotry.Tbaba dare not reply this because it is exposing the hypocrisy! Tiarabubu, I love you! ![]() Great post |
Babadeen: Before someone tries to shut me up with a ban. I am saddened that these Bosnian muslims were killed and slaugtered mercilessly. I am horrified and sad at any tragedy. |
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deols: I assumed you'd be smart enough to realise that wanting to be ban simply summarises all your actions.What is it with muslim moderators and having some morbid , twisted humor in banning people? Yes, you have outlined the reasoning for banning her. Why the smiley face at the end after warning that you might ban her again? |
vedaxcool: From thaba is very justified to ignore a hypcorite who mocks the death of christians in the hands of atheist Stalin and suddenly finds their death an avenue to engage in headless argument!You might want to look up the definitions of these 3 words -straw man -red herring -derailing. |
okunoba: "No compulsion in religion" but the holy prophet {pbuh} upon conquering mecca destroyed all the idols of the pagans. Actions speaks louder than words, there is compulsion in Islam. If no be by force he would have let the pagans do their thing, who is he to force his religious believe on others. He was complaining of being prosecuted but when he got power he did the same thing he was complaining about. So in a nutshell Islam was founded on hypocrisy and the use of force. Back to the topic, Islam was spread in west Africa through brutal force and trade.I expect worse- you might be banned. That is how things go here. No freedom of speech |
Paschal007: Lol why did u quote urself just to post a smile? Udo a di kwa?# Swagg ![]() |
maclatunji: To whom, a Non-Muslim? Null and void ab initio. ![]() Abeg, just hold your peace if you have nothing |
vedaxcool: [size=18pt]Well normal human beings accord religious people respect[/size], you have gotten an answer you simply want to banter a little more, I said obeying God is paramount, when one obeys God, the person earn God favour, like obeying your dad or mum, obedient people people tend to enjoy favour from those they obey, it is that simple, hijab is a component of a long lists of does and don't s! i can repeat your statement as follows:lol.....do you respect polytheists enganging in shirk despite it being their religion? Do you respect Wiccans that call themselves witches in their religion? Normal people do not accord respect that is not earned. You dont earn respect by being religious. This is how I know that a normal person shouldnt respect Vedaxcool's posts |



