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Rashduct4luv:
You are not qualified to be called a Muslim.

1. Almost all your comments contains curse/abusive language. You start this post with "see this foolish..."
Jabatiya style. Not Salafiyah at all.
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2. You keep typing 'Laughing' most times. Typical of one with a pathetic life.
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3. Those who raised you probably tried their best but you still lack proper etiquette and manner.
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4. There's no civility in you. Typical of all Jabata guys I've met.
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5. I see how you are messing up threads on this section.
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6. You sound like an adolescent most time. And I think you are closing in on 40 if not over.
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7. Telling lies is part of your manhaj too. You claimed I call people I don't even know Muslims instead of calling them kaafir.
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Answer the questions.. Not abuse. We Muslims are hard on kafir like you and gentle with the Muslims

najib632:
I don't know him (I am not from the west).

He's the same as Ahmad Tijani.

Or you don't know Ahmad Tijani

Asalam alaekum warahmatulah wabarakahtuhu my brothers and sisters


It's a shame.. Really a shame.. So sad and so frustrating.



I heard about one person named Abu Sumaya Aton. That brothers went to meet him so as to clear his shubha.

I listened to the audios in which brothers were explaining his shubha. I heard him say that Prophet Muhammad did Innovation into the deen.

I was so shocked and scared.. Very terrified and at the same time feeling like heaven is coming off our heads due to this statement.

Brothers explained a lot to him and he said it's now clear to him. Unfortunately, he has convert back to. His dolal.

Everything na copy and paste..

Simple explanation and extraction of evidence from kitab wa sunnah.. You no do.

Tsfu

What's Islamic ruling on insurance..

Discussion should start from there

Is Insurance even sin or shirk?

Laughing..

Amubieya.. Gohwee Olodo of ibadan land.

In 2019. That Dawah salafiyah has spread far and wide..

So, there people still following this Amubieya

Laughing..

Probably Mssn followers Sha

You belief act of worship is taokefiyah (unchangeable)


Yet you belief some act of worship that's changed is a sin

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When you do not understand anything in Islam.

All that you do is copy and paste scholars fatawa without understanding one bit of it

This is a core part of the belief of Sufi


And yet people belief sufi are Muslim.

Adam Abdullah is referred to as a Muslim

And it's people like you that crucified us for calling Allah Allah not olohun.

Mumu OP

See this foolish boy Rashduct4luv o.

Calling kafir a kafir is a must.
It's part of deen.

What is the essence of Dawah Islam or rosul if he can't separate kufar from Muslims..

Allah called kafir kafir, rosul called kafir a kafir, Sahabahs called kafir a kafir..

And you fool is saying we should leave what doesn't concern us..

It concern us. It's part of the deen.



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You detest eating with 3 fingers .. You reject sunnah of rosul and follow sunnah of westerners. #eating with spoon#

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Mention just 5 kafir in Nigeria and why they are kafir.. To prove maybe you call kafir a kafir or not..

When Raji ogbomosho and amubieya wage war against qobla zawal and wearing footwear to pedorm Salah..

That they said its takfeery people that does that and you can't wear footwear to perform Salah in mosque they have tiled or rugged.. Respectively..

And they never repented on it.. Yet they are Muslims to you


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In fact you are a confused fool.. Who relies solely on word of scholars. You even mix their fatwa... On sujud..

1. Ibn kathir said its shirk, Ibn taymiyah also said its shirk, Sheik Al Islam said its kufru, Sheik abdu lateef Abdul aziz said its kufru..

Am not surprised that you brought unknown alfa words to do taaliq on the fatwa of our scholars.. Laughing..

Let me just refute those your scholars that divided sujud into 2.. Would have asked you questions.. But you won't be able to answer.. You that you can't quote dalil yourself than to copy and paste fatawa awon alfa..


Suratul fusilat..

Allah said we should not sujud for sun or moon if its HIM we worship. Allah has called sujud an act of worship that must be done for HIM alone..

Rosul buttress that verses in his hadith.. He said if its actually possible for him, he would have said wives should sujud for their husbands but it's meant for Allah alone...

Our salafs have already brought the dalil before your own scholars divided the sujud..


Hadith rosul is very clear.. It's even against your division of sujud.. Let me post the hadith


The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him ) said, “Do not do that. If I were to command anyone to prostrate to anyone other than Allah, I would have commanded women to prostrate to their husbands. By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, no woman can fulfil her duty towards Allah until she fulfils her duty towards her husband.”
Narrated by Ibn Maajah (1853); classed as hasan by al-Albaani

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It's for Allah alone. And the sujud here is for the wife to greet the husband not worship him..



You see your filthy bidah filled life

Maverick7901:
Saheed bn Eesah Agbako...
So you are on Nairaland Forum...

To the brothers arguing with him, my advise is to leave him and let him be living in the fools Paradise. The guy is a diehard and an unrepentant Takfiree, Hadadee and a follower of the astray man Muhammad bn Aliy Jabata. He is an ignorant fellow and a stinking Jaahil...

May Allah rectify him and us. Aameen...

Bring dalil for saying amen after dua..



Mumu Boi

Laughing rolling on the floor..

I know it's scholars word you would use to divide bidah..


So, according to you..

Marwan is onibidia and Marwan is a sinner..

Aye e ti ta..

Sahabah anabi ni onibidia.. Sahabah anabi ni sinner..


Well, my beloved Sheik made a mistake.

Besides, Marwan made a mistake and he was rebuked.. Did you see him repeating the action again?

And of all the people doing bidah mufasiko.. Which of them does the bidah by mistake? Don't they keep repeating it?

Besides, is it Marwan that Allah send to you or rosul?
How do we Muslims take dalil of Islam from the sahabahs? Whatever sahabahs did and has no dalil from Allah's prophet actions.. We won't take it.. Because sahabah can make a mistake
It's only ijmah sahabahs that we accept as dalil..

For the fact that it's Marwan only that did the action.. No other sahabahs did it and we even see sahabah that go against what he did.. That proves we can't follow that action talk less of using it as dalil for bidah mufasiko


Allah said that Islam is complete in Quran.. Whoever does any act of worship that Allah's command is not upon nor rosul did the action.. It's kufru.. It's against Quran and hadith..

Lastly, Marwan is a sahabah. He's ameer mu'min in his time (a governor).. He has reached the stage of ijtihad. He made a mistake and we won't follow him in it.. For the fact that he doesn't repeat the action again proves that he has corrected his mistakes..

Allah told us in Quran that

He won't ask us about what we forgot, what we were forced to do, what we did by mistake..


Why would you choose what sahabahs did by mistake or forgot the dalil as proof to divide bidah..

Laughing..

Wallohi if a Muslim goes through what you have written..

He would know you a staunch kafir..

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You detest eating with hands.. 3 fingers.. That's what I want to say..

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That hadith affirms hell for whoever dies on
1. Belonging to a sect
2. Not to worship Allah according to rosul and his companions.

Proof that sect is kufru. Khawarij.
Rosul called them kufar and instructed sahabahs to kill them

Hadith



حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ، أَنْبَأَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَمْرٍو، عَنْ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ، قَالَ قُلْتُ لأَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ هَلْ سَمِعْتَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ يَذْكُرُ فِي الْحَرُورِيَّةِ شَيْئًا فَقَالَ سَمِعْتُهُ يَذْكُرُ قَوْمًا يَتَعَبَّدُونَ ‏‏ يَحْقِرُ أَحَدُكُمْ صَلاَتَهُ مَعَ صَلاَتِهِمْ وَصَوْمَهُ مَعَ صَوْمِهِمْ يَمْرُقُونَ مِنَ الدِّينِ كَمَا يَمْرُقُ السَّهْمُ مِنَ الرَّمِيَّةِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ أَخَذَ سَهْمَهُ فَنَظَرَ فِي نَصْلِهِ فَلَمْ يَرَ شَيْئًا فَنَظَرَ فِي رِصَافِهِ فَلَمْ يَرَ شَيْئًا فَنَظَرَ فِي قِدْحِهِ فَلَمْ يَرَ شَيْئًا فَنَظَرَ فِي الْقُذَذِ فَتَمَارَى هَلْ يَرَى شَيْئًا أَمْ لاَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏"



It was narrated that Abu Salamah said:

"I said to Abu Sa'eed Khudri: 'Did you hear the Messenger of Allah mention anything about the Haruriyyah (a sect of Khawarij)?' He said: 'I heard him mention a people who would appear to be devoted worshippers: "Such that anyone of you would regard his own prayer and fasting as insignificant when compared to theirs. But they will pass through Islam like an arrow passing through its target, then he (the archer) picks up his arrow and looks at its iron head but does not see anything, then he looks at the shaft and does not see anything, then he looks at the band: that which is wrapped around the iron head where it is connected to the shaft, then he looks at the feather and is not sure whether he sees anything or not."

Sahih (Darussalam)

English : Vol. 1, Book 1, Hadith 169
Arabic : Book 1, Hadith 174
Sunan Ibn Majah



That's a sect. They're part of rosul ummah. Yet they're called kufar.


Hadith



حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى، حَدَّثَنَا الْوَلِيدُ بْنُ مُسْلِمٍ، حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ جَابِرٍ، حَدَّثَنِي بُسْرُ بْنُ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ الْحَضْرَمِيُّ، أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ أَبَا إِدْرِيسَ الْخَوْلاَنِيَّ، أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ حُذَيْفَةَ بْنَ الْيَمَانِ، يَقُولُ كَانَ النَّاسُ يَسْأَلُونَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم عَنِ الْخَيْرِ، وَكُنْتُ أَسْأَلُهُ عَنِ الشَّرِّ، مَخَافَةَ أَنْ يُدْرِكَنِي فَقُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنَّا كُنَّا فِي جَاهِلِيَّةٍ وَشَرٍّ فَجَاءَنَا اللَّهُ بِهَذَا الْخَيْرِ، فَهَلْ بَعْدَ هَذَا الْخَيْرِ مِنْ شَرٍّ قَالَ ‏‏ نَعَمْ ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ وَهَلْ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ الشَّرِّ مِنْ خَيْرٍ قَالَ ‏"‏ نَعَمْ، وَفِيهِ دَخَنٌ ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ وَمَا دَخَنُهُ قَالَ ‏"‏ قَوْمٌ يَهْدُونَ بِغَيْرِ هَدْىٍ، تَعْرِفُ مِنْهُمْ وَتُنْكِرُ ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ فَهَلْ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ الْخَيْرِ مِنْ شَرٍّ قَالَ ‏"‏ نَعَمْ، دُعَاةٌ عَلَى أَبْوَابِ جَهَنَّمَ، مَنْ أَجَابَهُمْ إِلَيْهَا قَذَفُوهُ فِيهَا ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صِفْهُمْ لَنَا‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ هُمْ مِنْ جِلْدَتِنَا، وَيَتَكَلَّمُونَ بِأَلْسِنَتِنَا ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ فَمَا تَأْمُرُنِي إِنْ أَدْرَكَنِي ذَلِكَ قَالَ ‏"‏ تَلْزَمُ جَمَاعَةَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ وَإِمَامَهُمْ ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ فَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُمْ جَمَاعَةٌ وَلاَ إِمَامٌ قَالَ ‏"‏ فَاعْتَزِلْ تِلْكَ الْفِرَقَ كُلَّهَا، وَلَوْ أَنْ تَعَضَّ بِأَصْلِ شَجَرَةٍ، حَتَّى يُدْرِكَكَ الْمَوْتُ، وَأَنْتَ عَلَى ذَلِكَ ‏"‏‏.‏"



Narrated Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman:

The people used to ask Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) about the good but I used to ask him about the evil lest I should be overtaken by them. So I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We were living in ignorance and in an (extremely) worst atmosphere, then Allah brought to us this good (i.e., Islam); will there be any evil after this good?" He said, "Yes." I said, 'Will there be any good after that evil?" He replied, "Yes, but it will be tainted (not pure.)'' I asked, "What will be its taint?" He replied, "(There will be) some people who will guide others not according to my tradition? You will approve of some of their deeds and disapprove of some others." I asked, "Will there be any evil after that good?" He replied, "Yes, (there will be) some people calling at the gates of the (Hell) Fire, and whoever will respond to their call, will be thrown by them into the (Hell) Fire." I said, "O Allah s Apostle! Will you describe them to us?" He said, "They will be from our own people and will speak our language." I said, "What do you order me to do if such a state should take place in my life?" He said, "Stick to the group of Muslims and their Imam (ruler)." I said, "If there is neither a group of Muslims nor an Imam (ruler)?" He said, "Then turn away from all those sects even if you were to bite (eat) the roots of a tree till death overtakes you while you are in that state."



Sahih al-Bukhari 7084
In-book : Book 92, Hadith 35
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 9, Book 88, Hadith 206  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

On the accusation that we are a sect.


A sect have a name... Given to them by their leader.
A sect always have different aqeedah from rosul aqeedah.
A sect always wage war against sunnah of rosul.

E. G.

Mssn. Was founded in 1906
With the aim of gathering Muslims together under one banner.
Mssn have amir
Mssn have ameera
They do meetings with other sects
All their ameers in Nigeria come together to do meetings
They conduct IVC
They mix with the kufar (other sects members).
They support democracy
They do jihad week.
They have aqeedah hassan Al Bana.




It's kufar like you people that label us jabatiyah
Just like your forefathers labeled the Muslims during era of Muhammad bin Abdul wahab WAHABIYAH

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Just like the kufar labeled Muslims madkhalist and Ibn taymiyah.. In those sheiks era..



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najib632:
This brother is a Salafiy wether you like it or not. He is always promoting the sunnah and always against bidiah. His threads on nairaland are always about educating the ummah. You should fear Allah brother have you ever seen this brother talking down on muhammad ibn abdulwahab? Fear Allah brother.

Have you ever seen alaro talking down Muhammed bin Abdul wahab? And is alaro a Muslim?

najib632:
Declaring people as kafir without any intellectual or plain evidence from the Qur'an or sunnah. This is similar to the khawarij they declare everyone who does not agree with them a kafir.

Those things I listed that are part of his aqeedah.. Check it.. Then tell me how he's not a kafir..

Besides, someone that affirms that sujud for other than Allah is a sin.. Is that person not a kafir?
Someone that affirms Islam for kufar.. Adam Abdullah and others.. Is that person not a kafir?

I want him to Win at least a cup.. Perhaps champions league

najib632:
By Allah there is a lot of ignorance in that brother. He should seek for more knowledge. And fear Allah, and he should know that Allah's mercy far is bigger than the followers of Jabata.

Laughing..

Well, it's cool you regarded me as your brother..

Probably you don't know what you are on.


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List those things that makes you think jabata is astray..

Rashduct4luv:
@najib632, You see?

Babaheekmat, how sure are you on the scale of 100% that all these you itemise on your list is applicable to me?

If any of those things I said is a lie against you.. Prove it.


All your scholars.. That's exactly what they are on.

That's why they mix with the sects like MSSN and others. That's why they refer to some sects as Muslims


You people divided bidah into 2. Mukafiroh (kufru) and mufasiko (sin)

All your scholars placed mufasiko under sins

Even people that fall into mufasiko, they do not kafara them.

Why do you think you all refer to alaro, habeeb markaz, ejigbo, Adam Abdullah as a Muslim

najib632:
but for sure this guy will be affiliated with tableegh.

Ain't like any sect.. No sect in islam. They're all kufar.

Rosul kafara them(hadith khawarij and hadith on sects) . Allah called them kufar (suratul rum)

And, just like they called our scholars by their name..

Wahabiyah
Madkhalist
Jabatiyah

Calling us names only make us firm that we are on haqq.


See the reasons I called him a kafir. If it's not up to calling him a kafir.. Speak up

Rashduct4luv:
Far from Tableegh. The name of their leader is Muhammad Ali Jabata from Kwara state. I call their brand of Islam "Jabatiyyah".
Their major pillar of Islam is "all bid'a is kufr". And they can list all the innovators in Nigeria (dead or alive) for you.

Laughing..

Saying All bidah is kufru is bidah?

Aye e ti ta pau..


So rosul is onibida according to you
Sahabahs are onibida according to you



Why do you think rosul kafara khawarij?
Why do you think Umar kafara qodariyah?
Why do you think Ali killed Shia back then?
Why do you think that Muhammad Bin Abdul wahab was called wahabiyah?
Why do you think the sects hates salafs so much?


Is it because of sin or bidah?


Bring dalil that all bidah isn't kufru
Bring dalil that divide bidah?


Stupid boy
.. Kaaaaaafir

Rashduct4luv:
I don't think I've ever seen anyone so asinine, uncouth, ill-bred and one who prides himself in his stupidity as you.
You are only skillful in fixing Plumbing pipes, exhibiting your bad-tempered Character and calling people kufar. You are an example of people who disgrace themselves online & offline and you can't put Islam in to disrepute.



"O kare boda plumba to di osise nepa ton pina"

Allah says:
O you who believe! Ward off from yourselves and your families a Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, over which are (appointed) angels stern (and) severe, who disobey not, (from executing) the Commands they receive from Allah, but do that which they are commanded.

When did you become part of the appointed angels above for you to confirm certificate of hell?

In Jabatiyyah, there's a list of people (dead or alive) you must agree to be out of Islam. Once you don't agree 100%, you are a kaafir. How don't you feel pathetic with this kind of life?
I think i have forgotten the innovations that took me out of Islam can you remind me of them since you are the registrar of people's innovations


I know the hadith you are saying and i am for it.
The Post only emphasizes making food while mourning the dead and it never talked about celebration of the dead. Kindly make your own post on celebrating the dead and stop exhibiting your laughing syndrome on my thread.

Check No 2 https://www.nairaland.com/3692784/some-deeds-not-meant-muslims

Who told you that you are a believer?

You are known for your shubha and nonsense arrant about Islam...

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Your innovations.
1. You believed we are jabatiyah. (you call us a kafir by affirming sect for us)
2. You belive some sects are Muslims
3. Bidah is a sin to you.
4. No kafir in Islam.
5. We can't kafara anybody
6. Alaro and his cacaus are Muslims to you
7. Rasheedi eran aye, sarumi, ejigbo and other kufar are Muslims to you
8. All ahkam innovations are sin in your aqeedah. All bidah ceremony means nothing to you
9. You detest eating with spoon
10. You side with the kufar on qobla zawal and wearing footwear to perform Salah
11. Baba lagbeni is a Muslim to you, Ibn hajar, Adam Abdullah and others
12. Sujud to greet is a sin to you.

Rashduct4luv:
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You are advising someone you've given "a certificate of kufr" to follow Hadith right?
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I think you need to fix pipe connections from your medulla oblongata to your frontal brain.
Only those who follow Jabata version of Islam are Muslims to you. Better don't comment on my post anymore.

Laughing..

E pain am.

Allah has already given you certification of hell fire of you die on your innovations
Rosul has already called your forefathers in innovations kufar
Ali killed them
Abu Bakr waged war against them
Umar called and beat one of your forefathers kufar and till he repented respectively


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So, who am I not to call you a kafir when you are not a kafir.

Calling you a kafir doesn't mean I have given you certification of hell..
Until you die on your innovations.. Ehn ehn.. I will now affirm your certificates of hell..

Just like I did for

1. Ibrahim Niyas
2. Ahmad Tijani
3. Ibn Hajar
4. Adam Abdullah
5. Kamaldeen Al Adaby
6. Yahya Solaaty
...... And all others that have died and regarded these idiots as Muslims or died on the same aqeedah alongside these people





The hadith is clear.

1. Do not invite family and friends and cook for them in celebration of the dead
2. If the people that someone died for. (example. Your father died. And it hurts you so much that you, your mum and siblings can't cook nor eat.. Your family members that are coming to your side to mourn with you can come along to your house with food. So that you can eat. Or perhaps if they are coming to stay with you.. They can be cooking for you and your family to eat)


That's all

Save yourself from hell..

Only you can save yourself.


Stay away from Factionists and all those self accalmined salaf that are calling Factionists Muslims

Tabliq is going to Ishtimah
Mssn is going to IVC camp
TMC is going to Dawah Camp
Mufti Menk and his goons wants to do conference
Sufi are going to kaola



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Every gathering that has no proofs in Quran and hadith is.. Innovations

Asalam alaekum warahmatulah wabarakahtuhu my brothers and sisters.

As we all know..

All innovations in the deen leads to hell fire.
As we also know that whoever indulge in innovations is not a Muslims.

The foundations of innovation is FACTIONISTS (sect, hizbiy, egbe)

budaatum:
I hope your skepticism applies to all things.
It's good if well directed.

I am a Muslim.
I believe in proofs

budaatum:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/saudi-backpedals-video-labelling-feminism-extremist-191113161540295.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/13/world/middleeast/saudi-feminism-extremism-video.html

You must bring the photo of the tweet se.

Without that.. You are saying rubbish

sulasa07:
Dem don they show face, Saudi Ass-Lickers

Laughing.. Mumu

budaatum:
Are you sure your data is not fake?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2019/11/saudi-arabia-categorizing-feminism-atheism-homosexuality-as-crimes-exposes-the-kingdoms-dangerous-intolerance/

Where is the picture of the twitter account related to King Salman and the video?

Tsfu