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sunboy:
You just repeated exactly what I typed up there sir 😂

Except for the lie in bold.. the Portuguese traded out of the Lagos port and settled in Lagos since the 15th century. That is a well documented history sir.

It's simply not true,the Portuguese never settled in LAGOS

Iamgrey5:
Oh Kogi is always ruled by heartless governors since 1999.

Kogi a once shining light is now nothing to write home about.

Kogi declined after 2015 with tinubus party,mind you kogi was created in 1991

Iamgrey5:
Lagos existed as the Economic nerve center on its own before it was added to Southern Nigeria in 1906.

Calabar was capital of southern Nigeria before Lagos was joined with southern Nigeria.

The oil rivers protectorate was also rich in trade in palm oil n rubber at par with LAGOS before 1914,the decline started after the ww1 after which Lagos became capital of Nigeria

Iamgrey5:
Same can be said of the entire country

Some states have even gone backwards like Kogi state.

Since the creation of TINUBUs party

babasolution:
The progress in Lagos today is marginal not exceptional, who knows if another governor in 1999 would have done better

Before 1914 LAGOS was not the economic centre of the area called Nigeria today

Iamgrey5:
I never disputed this

I told you Lagos has been an economic life wire before the British came to Nigeria which you disputed yesterday.

However, one cannot dispute some innovations that makes Lagos maintain its importance in West Africa even till date.

I said Lagos as been the economic Center of Nigeria, Nigeria was created in 1914 by the British

Iamgrey5:
By the time 1999 rolled around, Lagos was largely abandoned by the federal government.

Lagos was a bigger slum that most of you consider it to be now.


Tinubu started a journey that regenerated Lagos and gave it the opportunity to play to its strategic advantages.


He came up with some positive innovations that makes lagos the only functioning State in Nigeria today.

The progress in Lagos today is marginal not exceptional, who knows if another governor in 1999 would have done better

MossadAgent:
See this one.

Lagos was merely the sit of the British colonial govt.

Every other 3 regions had their own capital.

Why did Azikiwe move the old capital from Calabar to the dead coal mine city of Enugu if not because of tribal sentiments?

Calabar had everything to challenge Lagos . If not Calabar , why not PHC that was already a bustling city ? Instead, Zik decided to build a new Ibo capital in the heart of Ibo land using resources from other provinces.

You can't be complaining of Abuja today because what the north has done with Abuja , you were doing in Enugu.

The British built LAGOS, Awolowo only came to prominence in the 50s

Christistruth00:
The 1842 Yoruba Ota Civil War was fought over Lagos
Oluyole's Ibadan Army camped at Agege
The Egbas of Abeokuta Won

You are wrong,it was fought over access to ijebu trading route,with it's port far off at the epe end not LAGOS island

MossadAgent:
Lagos that has been open to business since the 15th century is what you call virgin lands?

Why are you 0koros who do not know your own history always dabbling into revisionism of other people's history ?


Why ?

Even Ibadan, Abeokuta was just a small village by the early 19th century not to talk of LAGOS

Iamgrey5:
There is not a single state that borders Nigeria that is not benefiting from trade.

Sokoto and Kastina trades heavily with Niger Republic.

Cross River, Adamawa trades heavily with Cameroon etc.

I said innovations LAMTA which birthed a cosmopolitan transportation system in Lagos, An effective internal generated revenue system amongst others.

Meanwhile, Lagos, Ogun, Oyo Kwara and Niger state borders Benin not only Lagos

LAGOS has always been the economic Center of Nigeria way before TINUBU

MossadAgent:
Oh.

Now you are admitting that Calabar was indeed a capital.

I have told you to go to Calabar marina and ask for the national Museum and see how it was once the capital of the British expeditionary force for all three Protectorates.

At this same time, your savage beasts of an ancestors were still in the process of being civilised by the British expeditionary force.

LAGOS was the capital of Nigeria for over 70years,Calabar your so called capital wasn't even a one for a decade

MossadAgent:
Lagos was a seperate Protectorate up till 1914.

The entire southern protectorate was administered from Calabar and the British high command in Nigeria had Calabar as their main headquarters.




Foolish IPOB graduate

Again LAGOS was the capital of Nigeria since 1914

Iamgrey5:
How come states with just as much funds as Lagos but less population couldn't achieve what he did?

He brought some innovations that other states are trying to use till date.


You could be good at one job but bad in another, it happens.

No state ever had as much funds as Lagos bar Abuja.

Allocations to SS states which only recently started getting improved is not the only source of funds for LAGOS

MossadAgent:
And?

It's fools like you that scream you know history well, do you know that the 1914 amalgatiom treaty involved the fusing of three (3) Protectorates to form Nigeria ?

1. Northern Protectorate

2. Southern Protectorate

3. Lagos Protectorate.

Out of the 3, Lagos Protectorate was the first British Protectorate from which the British advanced across the south and then the north.


Lagos was created independently of Nigeria and was administered so for a long time until the British created southern Protectorate with its capital in Calabar and later northern Nigeria with its capital in Kaduna. Calabar at this time doubled as both the capital of southern protectorate and the joint protectorates of north, south and Lagos.

It was not until the outbreak of WW1 and fearing the close proximity with hostile German Cameroun that lugard decided to move his capital from Calabar to Lagos.

Lagos has always been independent until 1914.

Fools that don't even know their own history are here telling that of others.

Calabar was so called capital of southern protectorate not of Nigeria.

LAGOS as been the capital of Nigeria since 1914

What if there was another governor that ruled LAGOS in 1999,who knows if that governor would have done BETTER and taking LAGOS to greater heights than the mediocrity being celebrated.

Tinubus governorship of Lagos enabled him access to immense funds to prosecute a political ascendancy which grew his pedigree.

His mediocre leadership was covered under his political war chest of Lagos funds.

Like buhari ,TINUBU is a huge mistake.

Christistruth00:
Neither was the East under the Eastern Region

Does it make it FG property

No!

The federal capital was in Lagos

CyrusVI:
You're arguing with one who keeps dropping links,maps and news to support his claim but all u could do is drop personal opinion limited by your understanding


Na that person get time


I'm glad you're being schooled

Which fake links? The truth is out there and obvious.it's public knowledge

Christistruth00:
Jakande alone built over 2000 Schools in Lagos
All of Nigeria was administered by the Military during that period not just Lagos so don't single out Lagos
Even your own State was administered by the FG Military and you didn't declare it as FG Property

My point for alighting the military rule is that Lagos was not under Western region

GeneralPula:
And the government, are they not citizens?

The government are rulers/ leaders/ elite

There's difference between citizens and ruling elite

Christistruth00:
Lagos Island was the Capital not Lagos State.

Do you know that even the FG has never claimed to be the owners of Lagos State

Western Region Lands never belonged to the FG even after Lagos State was created

Okay what were the Western Region Lagos Land owners paid for the Control of their Lands then?

At least you know the FG Promised to compensate Abuja Indigenes for control of their Lands and relocated them to New settlements

Lagos Island has never owned Lagos State and even they don't dispute it
Do you think the Egbas Ijaye,Ilaje Ijebu Egun Oyo lands used to create Lagos State now belongs to FG?

How does that sound even to you yourself?

Guy you are wasting your own time

Lagos Island was the FG Capital and Awolowo built Ikeja was the State Capital

LAGOS state was administered largely by the military as a state from 1966 until 1991 except for a brief four years under jakande(as a state) during the civilian rule of shagari.However LAGOS even during this brief period the FG had a lot of development influence in LAGOS

The Western regions influence stopped in 1966 period.

Beautifulday:
People always shift the blame of bad economy to citizens. It is really shocking how shallow people reason.

When a company is having a bad time. The management change leadership rather than change workers. But when it comes to governance, workers will gladly take responsibility in this part of the world and praise their leaders.

China didn't rise because the citizens were productive but because they had a leader that desired a productive nation and was will to give it his all.

Asia is too far.

Libia under Gaddafi is an example. Once you graduate back then. A house was given to you with salary if you couldn't secure a job and much more.

What stopped Gaddafi from cornering the whole money to himself and giving the people excuses.

It is leadership.

The Arab prince said his fore father rode on Carmel. He is riding fast cars but he is preparing his future kids for Carmel ride again. This is a leader that understands trend and plan for the future.

But our leaders are all about stealing and the job of the citizens is to praise them and take the blame for the decay in the nation.

What a people

Exactly, it baffles me how Nigerian people think.

The direction of the country solely rests on its LEADERS.

One main problem of this sort of thinking within Nigeria is that they only take examples of the American model of economy.
Neglecting several other proper countries.
Even though Americans success still depend on its LEADERS especially the early leaders.

Christistruth00:
Stop telling Lies

So where was Jakande Ruling if it belonged to the FG?

FG only leased Land from Awolowo's Western Region to build those Areas because Lagos Island ran out of Land!!!!

The Western Region was only helping the FG.
The Areas didn't belong to the FG they were Western Region Areas and the FG fully accepted that

Lagos Island the Capital had no land left for new buildings to house even it's own employees

LAGOS was an FCT like today's FCT with a governor model unlike today's minister model,

You must understand that regions ended in 1966,LAGOS became a state,doubling as the federal capital,with seat of government in LAGOS island just as the seat of government is in Abuja proper within the FCT.

victorDanladi:
😆

When yorubas Lagos was Lagos,that was made colonial master attracted to the place. Why not your god forsaken land!

The British were attracted to settle in LAGOS because it was largely virgin land,it had minimal population

Christistruth00:
Your History is Complete fake News

Lagos Island was the Capital even from 1967 to 1991 and not Lagos State!

Lagos that I myself was in during that period

Awolowo was Ijebu isn't it?

Half of Lagos State including Lekki is inside Awolowo's own Ijebuland , Starting from 5 Cowrie Creek on Victoria Island

When the British Empire arrived in 1951 the Western Region Lagos was under the Control of Egbas , Ijebu and Oyo Armies

All those Areas became Western Region Lagos it doesn't belong to the FG

Lagos Island was the Single exception only because the Egbas who had already taken all of Metropolitan Lagos area including Iddo and Otto Islands during the Ota War of 1842 didn't want the huge Casualties that the Sea Warfare to Capture Lagos Island would have Cost them
And Even Lagos Island belongs to the Yoruba Awori



The British captured Lagos as allies of the Egbas of Abeokuta and the Christian Missionaries there because king Kosoko was selling Egbas into Slavery



You don't have any Clue about Lagos History and you will be still opening and closing your own mouth as if you do

Ebute Meta in Lagos was a Port of the Oyo Empire under Olofin's Control!

The Ilajes owned the. Entrance and Shipping route from Lagos Harbour into the Atlantic Ocean

The whole of LAGOS state was under the federal government administration from 1966, not just LAGOS island, the federal government, built Festac,satellite town,apapa,surulere,yaba,etc,Gowon estate ,several roads and bridges etc

Awolowos Western region only lasted from 1960 to 1966.

Your egbas,ijebus didn't build a pin in LAGOS prior to British annex and claim of LAGOS.

Buccalcavity2:
GDP is the gross domestic product of all factors of production of Nigeria, Not just government. GDP per capita is that figure divided by population size; therefore a reflection of productivity per avg person.
It is not a political figure nor an emotional one!
Avg Nigerian productivity is low! Fact!

You can't have a productive populace under an unproductive government or leadership.
If it happens it's an abnormal situation not the norm.

The government needs to be productive before the populace can be productive

sunboy:
Lies from the pit of hell! 😂😂

Federal capital was the Lagos island … not the mainland. Lagos today is a combination of both all thanks to Awolowo and his western region plan.

Apapa GRA and some estates were initiated and constructed by the British not Awolowo, many of you Yorubas need to unlearn many of the wrong assumptions, assertions you were traditionally taught,I noticed that a lot of Yoruba were deceived by the fables of a grandiose Awolowo and general Yoruba influence of things,it wasn't actually so,the Yoruba only gained prominence due to their early cooperation with the British, many things that people think they Yoruba initiated or did were in actuality initiated or done by the British

sunboy:
Ouidah

The Benin empire did not controlled the Lagos port, but the Aworis were loyal to the Benin empire. Until the Oba invited the Portuguese and built their own palace.

Oyo does not own Ouidah, Oyo had great influence it and collect taxes just like the Benin had great influence on the eko port.

Oyo did not own ouidah or whydah (just spelling ) but had immense influence there as the dahomey were then under oyo RULE, oyo did not trade in LAGOS ports except little in badagry prior to the 19th century,it was Ibadan that traded in Lagos ports after the fall of oyo and the independence of Dahomey


Benin controlled the LAGOS port like the oyo did the ouidah port and they were not favourably disposed to trading with the Portuguese ( as they were not disposed to slave trading),the ijebu tried to use the LAGOS end of the port but the trade wasn't great,so the Portuguese and other European merchants largely ignored Lagos as it wasn't profitable until the time of British ascendancy in the area.

sunboy:
Lagos has been a major trading city before the British came just like Ouidah in Dahomey. The Portuguese named it Lagos since the not even the British. While the Yorubas and Aworis called it Eko the Portuguese settlers called it Lagos (lake) back in the 15th century, the British only came in the 1860s.

I repeat,yes LAGOS was named by the Portuguese but it was never a major trading centre prior to the 19th century and especially until the British took it over.

Benin - Edo rulers in Lagos were not disposed to trading with the Portuguese in Lagos and also the ships of that era( prior to the 19th/ 20th century),found it difficult navigating in Lagos shore

sunboy:
Lies from the pit of hell! 😂😂

Federal capital was the Lagos island … not the mainland. Lagos today is a combination of both all thanks to Awolowo and his western region plan.

Federal capital " started " from the LAGOS island you should say

There's this satanic lie, that many people parade that Nigerian citizens are not productive, that is a demonic grievous lie.

You have citizens that provide and produce everything for themselves, while the government does next to nothing.

How can you have a government that runs a country that imports refined petrol yet is a crude surplus country, that imports gas,yet it's a gas surplus country, a country that imports raw materials for road construction etc were it has it in abundance.

A country that it's leaders cannot send their children to public institutions based in the country instead they all have to go abroad.

A country were it's leaders cannot go to public hospitals instead they go abroad.

A country that brings in Chinese to mine it's resources

A country that cant protects it's citizens from genocide.

Those that label Nigerian citizens as unproductive are immensely wicked people.

Nigerians can only be generally regarded as ignorant and naive not unproductive.

The Nigerian leadership elite and their governments are the unproductive ones.

Christistruth00:
Lagos Island was the Capital not Lagos State

The Entire Lagos Coast was inside the Western Region

Lagos Island was actually an Island inside the Lagos Lagoon that was completely surrounded by Awolowo's Yoruba Western Region

Awolowo really fought and tried for us
They wanted to take it away , it was just too Strategic but Baba stood his ground

Awolowo was a gift of God

Awolowos Western region only lasted for 6 years,right from 1966 to 1991 the entire Lagos was under the FG,prior to 1960 the entire Lagos was the capital under the colonialist