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Natifa: yap, he z ma first and with him i've learnt one thing. How to let go! and now i give up, on him, and on love itself.

Gave up on love cox of a guy!! Lol funny u ..sent u a mail

Lol why is nobody thinking like me,she probably took a bet that she's gon do this...

Natifa: someone else? As in apart from the guy am with?

yes exactly!! u sounding more like he is ur first love and u cant do without him why not give ur heart to someone else

onyaigo: I see you b day mate..

Finally lol.. Hw re u

Repteam: Thank you balash. I just couldn't take his stupidity.

Am seriously gettin so bittered with lot of this people sstil beleivn this sect are religiously inclined? Azzin jusst read through the line's men..they are murderer's treat them as one!! It show's clear hatred against muslim's and most of them claim muslim's are wicked! What does there thinkn of this sect producing nw

Natifa: Am 20 and its getting increasing difficult. Somtimes its lyk i should jst blow it up.

Have u tried going into a relationship with someone else!!

Repteam: You are a confused pig! Why on earth would Muslims be killing themselves!? Doesn't this tell you that boko haram are wrecking havoc to destroy Nigeria?

This is not a Muslim vs Christian conflict nor ethnic. from my point of view these monsters want to destroy Nigeria!

And u r rejoicing!








@repteam

May God reply you. What is the difference btw u and those terrorists?

Would Jesus had loved your point of view?

pls go to hell scumbag!

@repteam God bless you for this response,he is surely dumb,,

Lol Azzin petrol and kerosine to campaign! Nigeria politics is gettn weird eachday..

What has politics turned to in nigeria,Just Got this Information From Osun state That PDP is sharing kerosine and APC is ssharing Petrol to their Supporter's in anticipation of the forthcoming governorship election in osun state

What has politicss turned to in Nigeria,Its getting so worst and stupid daily won't our generation be called the most uncivilised and irresponsible generation in nigeria by our unborn children! Its so getting weird eachday.

[quote author=josh001]na your type dey vex person pass. you think everybody would be as sexually loose as you and has no home training on moral chastity. unfortunately for you, just finished my 5 year course in a federal uni. see dude, it was not a lack of opportunity. had several ladies coming to my room, and even clinging. not once, not four times. But there the holy spirit and maturity comes in and one way or the other, I disentangle. some of us hold high our morals. some of us do believe sex Is for marriages, and that a lady, unworthy has no right to my seed. if you do not. I think there is a thread for sex addicts, gerrrouut.[/quo]

Am so sure u really dnt need to call all your roomate"s to push u every morning to kick start your brain to at least boot b4 u post or quote me or you simply hav deficiency in reading?? U just said holy spirit no allow u to do this stuff,and I said in my post 'deeper life' kinda people can do it successfully! U forming final year ish? When last did u go clubbing? When last did u go to a beach in the company of friends? When last did u celebrate any form of glories with friends and alcohol was taken freely? If u do all this we'll and u can still be called a virgin then u would be celebrated because u had lot of distraction's and u stood ur test of time then u can be called someone who is determined and a saint not some pastor like kinda guy's and sister mary kinda lady forming am stil a virgin nkwanu who want come close to virgin mary b4?? Lol

Funny trends! Guy'ss and ladies of 22 and under 22 be coming here to form saint! All of u wey never pas jamb talkless of enter university dey form am a virgin! Have not seen a dude or lady as an undergraduate like 300lvl in a university coming out to claim virgin after torrent of temptation's! U all mummy's boy and girl who sstill get allowance for mere morning or lunch meal's forming am stil a virgin why won't u be a vrgin in a place where u can't go out to buy common bisscuit and not get ur parents permmission be claiming after all temptation? Which temptation??
Any late 20s who claimmed been a vrgin is a deeper life kinda dude or lady with no form ofsocial activities whatsoever! Stop claiming am stil a virgin under ur parents roof most of this am still a virgin would be disvirgined even in 100lvl in a university o! How I wih we can implant CCtv in there forehead to watch dem ouyt! Omo mummy claming am sstil a virgin why won't u be a virgin! No be inssyd ur mama house dem dey disvirgin people o u hia lol,go visit ur bf at home lmao and come back for testimony

It was actually a lovely lecture!! I was impressed with the rate the lecturer made everyone feel so much into his teachngs and the level of the modern way's he preach! May Allah grant him more knowledge and rahma! I was impressed I spent my afternoon with lovely set of people and a great lecturer! And when I got home I saw an hefty chicken lap's. On the rice gven to me for iftaar! Unfortunately someone snatched it from me lol, to the dude who contributed for the preparation of the iftaar may Allah grant him all his heart desire's and surely next ramadan may his mercie be upon everyone of us to contribute also and conveerge in teslim balogun for next year iftaar lectures! Lol..I enjoyed myself...Salaam

Lmao!! Am not interested with arguement's on flimsy things like this wth u anymore! U sounding so much like someone in trouble with me and not with the discussion,the surah I posted was to inform u that I was actually very versed with my knowledge of quran/deen! I said I can actually recite all those surah off heart and u making it look like am been proud! Am ssure u saw those were done when I was still very serious in arabic sch and my post on when I got into the university I limited every sstudies on deen and took book serious rather that doesn't say I dnt pray. I would attach the pix of me on my walimah graduation day and u would see how young I was then and what when i Was still in arabic lesson meant,u that could actually spell'd halao halam as allahu'alam claiming I was wrong when those where just d alphabet's I wish to use and surely u understood what i said, show's so much how much u mean and u are so intent on attacking me in everyway! But if u like include more insultive words like the formal post's directed on me am happy to inform u I wasn't trained to insult or call a muslim sister name's no matter what might be the arguement's. But my stand that polygamy in islam is for reason and not choice stands and I can wait 4ur backlash more! But u won't force me to accept what I know is wrong and please let the insults rain more! Wasn't trained to insult female's....halao alam or the correct english way's to type by the almighty lecturer allahu'alam I hope its correct...#Islam Is Peace

Walao halaam! May Allah Increase Our Deen...

dyfatai: mr balash, pls take corrections and stop saying things on which you have no authority

You came here quoting what your Uztaz told you is d reason for polygamy and u cant defend each reason from quran and sunnah.

When you were asked for evidence, u went to 'UZTAZ GOOGLE' to 'cntr+C and cntrl+V', but still you couldnt do justice to d topic.
No be every Tom, Dirk and Harry dey contribute for religion mata oooo, na people with COMPLETE knowledge of the shariah.


I advise you as a brother that it is a great sin to make Haram what Allah has made Halal. Go back to your uztaz and ask him to give you the evidence for all those things u posted up there. #imo lo ladini, ogbon o gbe
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In islam, if you want to make a point, u make it bi kitab, sunnah and consensus of the Ulamah. Its a grave image to quote your uztaz as he can make mistake or did he receive his own revelation separately #aothubillah.

To cap it up, u are even saying u get ashamed wen ur friends accuse islam of polygamy, therefore you start making excuses for what Allah has made lawful, Subhannallah.

Brother, go and learn about your deen ooo, #o she pataki gan. . Wa salam alaekum.

I love this response,would like to ask u something! The way we perform ablution!! I mean the step's washing hand,nose,mouth,face,arm,head,ear,leg's!! Is It anywhere in the quran this steps the way we perform it? U all making it look like I actually formed this up! I said my ustaz thought me ths in the hadith while still in arabic lessson then but I can't remember what hadith? I can't say anywhere in the quran which clearly state's it? Moreover quran don't gve detailed answer's Rosul actually Gave it in detail's...I hope u all are not mistaken me? I never said quran doesn't say we shld marry 4?? Am standing on my ground that marrying more than one wife is not by choice but by. Reason!! U All backing this thing up instead of us to enlighten Eachother and correct some people's intuition's on this law's.Allah even say we can make rule's with islam on common sense! most of this weathy men now marry like 10 / 15 different wife's and alfa's actually perform nikkai 4 them? Is there anywhere Allah permits marrying like 10 because U wealthy?? This stuffs is makng rounds too much in nigeria and I mandate u to go to learned scholar's and confirm what I said? I finished quran at a tender age! Did waleemah when I was 16, and studied hadith for 2yrs more b4 I turned into an assitant alfa in my arabic lesson because my ustaz wasn't around anymore and I have Nothing less than 5 People under my tutelage who did walimah Graduation also? Am not been proud or somethng! I might have Shelved into lotta things while in the university Which made Me forget a lot (am ashamed of that) but the Fact stand's quote me anywhere and if you ask and u been told am lieing then u can always come back and wash me dry? Most of u denying my quote's does not know if am right or wrong u just want to stand on that right that marrying more than 1 is by Choice and not reason and I will never accept ur stands also!! Reference or not! Its what I knw! Somethings doesn't just leave ur head no matter what!! If u wake me up in the middle of the night to recite surat mulk,yasin,kaf etc I won't even think twice b4 reciting it offhead! This are things I was thought lots and amonsgt things I can't easily forget! This rule's on marrying more than 1 is what I knw and if u feel u dnt want to believe me! Walao halaam but am standing on it (go figure)....Salaam

babylolaroy: thanx. our islamic law is not subject to someone's whims and caprices. A person cant observe the part that favours him or her and leave the rest. when you are a muslim, embrace the law in its entirety

Lol 'whims and caprices'. ....That's kinda rude to a fellow muslim like u dear! I am not married or in a Relationship sef I got to be realistic in my uproar cox nigerian muslim Hav
Surely abused the law's Allah permitted on. This polygamy issue! U need to be realistic in ur dealing's!! May Allah Uplift u more in knowledge!! Ramadan kareem

BetaThings: I can marry by choice. The reasons you gave are your own possible justification
And there is a difference between conditions and reasons

Please tell me any ayat from the Qur;an or a hadith that backs the reasons you have given
Don't repeat conditions

Let me give you an example - the reason we go for Hajj is simply because Allah has ordained it!
But we cannot go until we meet some conditions eg ensuring welfare of your family when you are away

But u just saw my quote on there with the hadith and quran backing! If u Say u can marry for choice! Walao halaam..

babylolaroy: its okay. dont get me wrong here, we are not at cross roads. That other pple do not embrace polygyny as in Nigerian situation doesnt matter. what you said is not totally wrong but The law of polygyny makes the rule subject to ability of the man to do justice and ability to maintain the wives...now if he likes, he cud take 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 even when each one has been a 'darling'. it doesnt matter. The rule is a gift

Stop getting me wrong! U still wrong polygamy isn't by choice its 4 reason's

Salaam!! Been seeing this post about iftaar season but never opened it never knew its about something so nice and interesting!! Would have even contributed if I knew eaarly,would be there inshaa allau on the 20th!! May Allah make it an act of ibadah

dragnet: @bolded, reference please...

Conditions of marrying more than one woman:Islam set forth some conditions for marrying more than one woman. Those conditions are as follows:
1- To deal justly among the wives. This is limited with the human capability; it includes being just in food, clothes, housing, interest and treatment. However the Quran denotes that it is very difficult: "...if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or that which your right hands possess" (an-Nisa, 4/3). So if there is a fear that one cannot deal justly or one can oppress, then the principle of being content with one woman becomes valid. However, justice does not include issues like liking, inclination of the heart and love, because they cannot be controlled. Islam does not place a burden on man greater than he can bear. However, it is forbidden to incline to one of the wives extremely and deprive the others from love. The following is stated in a verse: "Ye are never able to do justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire: but turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air).” (an-Nisa, 4/129).
When the two verses above are evaluated, we can draw the conclusion that polygamy is not an essential rule but a permission that can be used when extraordinary conditions are present.  
2- To be able to maintain the family. In Islam, it is necessary for a man who wants to marry one woman or more to be able to meet the eating, drinking, clothing and housing expenses of her or them. The Prophet (PBUH) said the following: O young men! Those among you who can support a wife should marry " (Bukhari, Sawm, 10, Nikah, 2, 3, 19; Muslim, Nikhh, 1,3; Abu Dawud, Nikah, I; Ibn Majah, Nikah, ; Nasai, Siyam, 43). There is no doubt that the hardship of marriage lies in the expenses of the wife.
The reasons why Islam permits polygamy:
In Islam monogamy is essential and polygamy is exceptional. It can be used only when it is necessary or compulsory. Islam did not make polygamy obligatory for anybody, nor did it encourage polygamy. However, it is regarded permissible when there are some general or special reasons.
General reasons: In some regions the male population decreases and female population may increase above normal. During the time of wars it is more frequent. As a matter of fact, after the World War I in Germany, there were four or six women for one man. Then German women advocated that men should marry more than one woman. In such a situation polygamy serves to protect women from prostitution, to provide them with a warm home and to guard fatherless children.
Sometimes it may be necessary to marry more than one woman to increase the population in some regions; for instance, the death of most of the population in war.
There may be polygamy in order to spread Islam. So the Prophet was married to one woman Hazrat Khadijah until he was 54 and had 9 wives after that. (az-Zuhayli, VII, 169, 170).
There are a lot of special reasons:
1- The woman may be ill and cannot meet her husband’s sexual needs. It may be a gynecologic disease that cannot be cured; the woman may be barren and cannot bear a child. In such a case divorcing the diseased wife and marrying another may seem to be a solution but instead of sending her away from her children’s home, marrying a second woman with the consent of the first wife should be a better solution. Thus the rights of the first wife are preserved.
2- Some men may have fallen in love with another woman. The only way to prevent him from adultery is the second marriage.
So, the fact that polygamy is permissible is due to obligation, necessity, illness or a valid cause.
As u can see even the christian's embraced polygamy but for a just 'reason' not by choice..

babylolaroy: As salamu alaykum. this has ben an interesting read. i love topics on polygamy from islamic perspective.

What i'd like to chip in is that if a man has the MEANS to sustain more than a wife, he needs absolutely NO REASON to marry another. He can do it just because HE FEELS like it. whether his wife likes it or not. however putting ha emotion into consideration is mere moral obligation not legal obligation.
Whether he discovers her to be hermaphrodite or not fine enough or whatever! he can take another. All the reasons OP listed are personal preferences.
The key point is that He must be able to comfortably maintain both wives and their kids

Walaykum salaam dear,whre are u geting ur own belief's since u said what i posted was personal reason?? i posted the main reason with polygamy in islam by Allah and i can authoritatively say poygamy is more embraced in aafrica expecially in nigeria and most of some scholar's are nit talking about it? in nigeria every chief imam would automatically have a 2nd wife but in the main islamic core countries why are polygamy not embraced the way we do here? islam has been long established in most of theis country long b4 we in nigeria abolished traditonal religion? if u can get close to a scholar who is very versed and doesnt incline any form of self defense's in judgement plz ask! my quote wasnt determined on personal decision..

kuss: for your information we Christian believe that all Muslim are potential terrorist even the ones that are our family members

Thank u for believing instead of assuming but we wuld like to inform u that we are not terrorist and in every religion they are fanatics who read useless meaning to what the creator teaches us? The recent pastor who asked his member's to eat grass as a divine call what should I as a muslim beleivee instead of assumption on such pastor's?? Are u reading meaning to me at all??

italo: Muhammad killed indiscriminately and taught Muslims to do so.

Jesus never killed or taught anyone to do so.

That's why we blame Mohammed and not Jesus.

Are u okay? Is fighting war part of kiling?? And muhammed fought war against idol worshpper's and not christian's..

mmsen: Like it or not the culture is the reason behind the emergence of Boko Haram. Islam is and has been a part of the culture that has lead to the extreme inequality that has allowed Boko Haram to thrive.

That is not to say that culture cannot be changed but as things stand many aspects of the culture work against the needs of the majority.

i dont know what to ay! if after everything i posted u stil place boko haaram with islam then u can never change! i dont hvae response 4u anymore! #its well

Mighty Sparrow: your article is too long to worth the reading especially on a topic like this: It I'd full of sentiments and blind defence of the obvious. Paul Tibbets dropped a bomb in a war time. Japan attacked Japan who never participated in the war. So, America should wait to see their people annihilated?
Adolf Hitler declared a war on Europe with ambition to rule the world.
The pastor killing babies is for rituals is not a rule of Christianity.
Jihad is a doctrine of Islam. Besides, who are boko haram? Are they at war with Nigeria? What do they really want? Is Islamic word peaceful? What is your own definition of terrorism? In war people who fight are armed, and war declared in battle field. In Islam unsuspecting people are attacked and the mauaraders - turned caliphs live on loots. Islam thrives only by violence not by superior theology. In fact, the present Middle East entered into darkness after the rise of Islam. NP more peace, no more advancement in profitable knowledge, no more sense. In Africa of today , and indeed Nigeria, the Islam invested areas are the poorest. The more islamized the more you have blind, leprous, beggars and invalids.
What has Islam profited the world but terrorism?

Should I reply ur words that's so full with hatred for islam? Boko haram are some sets of individual fighting a cause best known to them has nothing to do with islam? I have given u something detailed and u said its ful of sentiments so if every crime's pastor's commit we blame it on jesus? How would u feel?? Wil u just reduce ur hatred for islam and be moderate with ur thoughts and teachings! I don't hate u but I hate the fact that ur quote smell so so much of sentiments as u claaim I do? Be Lenient

italo: @ OP, who should we blame?

Hindus?

must u blame islam for crime's from sets of individual because they wear turban?? do u blame jesus for crime's pastor's make

kuss: Op, you appear to be a moderate because you have stayed long with non Muslim
Boko Haram are the true follower of Mohammad

If after everything I posted u still insist on this boko haram beeen follower of mohammed! I think u seriously need li and simbi test book! U need to go back to sch for good. Knowledge on understanding quote's..

proo212: This is from the BBC by the way not some "right-wing Islamophobic website"

Official Arabic name, Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati wal-Jihad, means "People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophet's Teachings and Jihad"

Now ask yourself, and be honest with yourself, is the "People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophets's Teachings and Jihad" a Non-Muslim organisation?

In effect, they are Sunni Muslims.

Like seriously I dnt understand u? Whts with ths name ish? Does it hv anything to do with islam? People organising themself for a cause best known to them?? What difference Does it make with what I told u now? Do u have muccur in ur eye's

Welcome Doggy,keep barking

Good Morning Nairalander's. Am not trying to cause any form of uproar with my topic but would love to enlighten about 95% of nigerian christian's for they don't know,and its not new to me because nigerian's have this problem of blind arguement without fact because when am with friends and an issue about football occur's u see a certain guy.shouting,howling nd vibrating about some very certain thing about football he doesn't know about and when we call on uncle google or wikipedia to get an answer then u see the formal vibrating bro's murmering something like 'but' 'even though'.
I don't know where this clear hatred with islam is brewing from actually.I believe this whole issue started when the government gave power to the Bakassi boy's,o.p.c boy's and the arewa group to govern the security issue's in nigeria in respect to the 'LAZINESS' of there militry force's in nigeria.
Now to the issue at hand,why blame the stupid menace of the boko haram insurgent's on muslim's/islam in general?

Was Adolf Hitler a Muslim?
Adolf Hitler was born and raised by the Catholic. Adolf Hitler killed over six million jews in gas chambers when he found out that bullets were not killing them fast enough.

Was Paul Tibbets a Muslim?
Paul Tibbets was the good Christian man that droped the atomic bomb on the city of Hiroshima killing and injuring over 100,000 people including women and children.

All these people and many more are good Christians. I know some people would say probably their cause in killing was war but in the rule's of war u are not supposed to kill the innocent one's and anyone who doesn't have. Weapon must be spared? So were they killed because of war?? Nd after there death how many sheikh and imam have u seen condeming christian's and christinity as a religion killing innocent soul's?? Let's leave the world history alone and come back home.
1.Rev King when he poured petrol on his church member's and burned them all,how many muslim did u see coming online to criticize christinity?? Instead we criticized rev king himself and he was judged according to his crime's..
2. I won't mention name but when the very popular pastor gave his church member's a resounding/holy communion slap how many muslim's did u see criticizing christianity and not the pastor??
We should be unbiased in our dealing's with our fellow human's.lately we get news on pastor molesting church member's or killing babies for ritual how many muslim did u see condeming christianity?? Why would u see a man on turban causing any form of attrocieties and u won't penalise the man instead u immedietely condem muslim's and islam why are u been so unfair,This dirty group called boko haram hve been dissing out false verse's in the quran nd we the muslim's close to u hve since been defending the quran with evidence tht u should get an english quran nd u will find that quote's revealled by the insurgents are all false because islam doesn't permit kiling an innocent soul even when u commit suicide quran say's u would seriously be penalised for taking ur own life talkless someone else's life and according to quran there's no where u re asked to marry 72 virgin's or thereabout and islam permits u to gain more knowledge even if its far away japan so wherever the boko haram saw they dnt want western educaton is surely from the quran they printed themselve's.
Since the start of this boko haram sect menace am sure u've seen the way's muslim scholar's from round the world condeming all there purpoted teachings as false and am sure u've never seen the boko haram defending that claim instead they bomb mosque's what does that tell's u?? Just so you know, the same media that is being used to paint Arabs and Islam in bad light, portrays blacks (your kind) as monkeys and uncivilized. If only you knew how people outside Africa see Africans...
This Boko haram sect re kiling innocent soul's nd causing uproar in the nation and may Allah give the government nd the nigerian people the strength to get hold of this insurgents and let them face the judgement I don't care bout whtsoever the cause they are fighting for but the fact stands tht they have commited an offense against nigerian's,islam and they would be brought to book! Just so u know my father is a muslim nd my mother is a christian nd I choose to be a muslim doesn't mean am not versed in the knowledge of the two religion and the two religion clearly tells me whatsoever boko haram are putting on be it turban,damask,aso oke,jalabia,lace or agbada the fact stands tht they are criminal's and they would be aprehended by the special grace of God and judged for the crime's they committed.
N:B Every religion has for one time or the other been it group or individual hve committed a crime nd have been judged for it. boko haram are not different nd we all muslim say with pride this set of people are not muslim's they are merely criminal's versed in the knowledge of arabic words which anyone can understand IF u wiling...#Let the Attack pour in from the Alagidi's lol