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jhidey08: only if u'll allow me, i'll pay 3/4 of d money as long as d oda room mates are girls. Dat kind thing

i undastand

harbiola1: I believe cleanvessel hasn't abandoned the thread?

he sure hasnt

funkies06: I hav found a vry gud accomodatn wit water, gud lyt nd most of ol near 2 skul, i nid at most 2 muslim rummates dat r responsible so we can afford d rent, its a rum ,toilet kitchen apartment . . .cost 120k,

shimasparkle: apparently he cnt live wit xtians,jst so pathetic how he could open up abt dis segregation mentality he has

zeeace: why muslim? People like you are the reason we have middle finger.gross!

heyyyy...u neednt crucify him for saying just that, he must hv his reason for sayin that wch u need ask before judging

Richiez: when is abu zaria resuming?

new session.....February

olumorinmoses: transparent admssn where som1 wit 190+ got architecture on merit list and piple wit more higher scores were yet to get admitted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wu is d pesin and bsyds, b4 u can criticise, r u both from the same state??

Bro Cleanvessel, its obvious i hv ansad ur qst pertaining to the topic and u are but diverging from the topic, lyk some1 said, u r nt searching for the truth, u r searching for criticism, am sorry to say, i am nt a fan of religious arguements which is y i neva askd u any qst, and i c u r capitalising on that, u are goin in the line of religious arguement, henceforth, i wil only ansa questions pertaining to the thread, go open anoda thread and scholars wud ansa u

cleanvessel: It is hypocritical for muslims to say they accept Jesus. Your prophet is Muhammad alone.
''There is no God except allah and Muhammad is his prophet''. That is the exact belief of muslims.

wu is more hypocritical, Muslims who follow Muhammed or Xtians who do not follow Jesus??

cleanvessel: Jesus came to correct the wrong the Jews were doing by his teachings as the only religious people at that time.

did i ever say otherwise?

cleanvessel: Jesus gave many teachings, which of his teachings does the quran repeat?

i said earlier, always mention, according to the bible, answering ur qst is diverging from the thread, hence, i wunt

cleanvessel: Gabriel came to institute teachings contrary to those of Jesus:

wud u please list them

cleanvessel: How do you therefore believe and accept Jesus?

Qur'an said he is but servant of Allah

cleanvessel: Which of his teachings do you follow?

oneness of Allah

cleanvessel: What do you do to show you believe and accept Jesus?

worshiping only 1 Ilah and accepting he is but the Servant of the Most High

cleanvessel: Did I hear you say Muhammad's torture was to correct him?

am sorry, u heard wrongly

cleanvessel: That is not true. God does not torture to correct. He speaks to correct.

who said he was tortured
Lemme ask u this, when u are in the Church and some1, lets say pastor claims to b under the influence of Holy Ghost, wud he behave normal til the Spirit leaves Same applies with a mad man

cleanvessel: Muhammad was tortured thrice and each time to the point of death.

whr is ur proof?

cleanvessel: Was Muhammad lying when he said he could not see what to read? He asked ''what can i read''? This means Gabriel didn't bring anything for him to read or recite. Why then was he punished?

"Iqra" read, yeah, he askd, wat shud i read, and after Jubril mentiond that 3ce, his sense told him he was to repeat what he was hearing wch he did

lafex: What I mean is that u dont use personal opinion for conclusion in Islam, U only use what is according to the quran and sunnah.
The verse simply means that u can use any of the names to ask of anything from ALLAH in any language but u must not tag them d way u do . If u like use Arrazak or Arrahman to ask of everything u wantin ur language ALLAH will provide u provide ur believe is strong on it nd u follow the right way.
Do u get my point?

b4 i opend ur comment, i had 1 tin in mind....CASE CLOSED....and ur comment wunt change it

lafex: Is this ur opinion? If its yes I will like to tell u that u r wrong cos ALLAH says in the qur'an suratul Israh vs 20 that 'Say I call upon ALLAH or I call upon ARRAHMAN, anyone u call is mine, all the beautiful names are mine.... ' till the end of the verse.
The verse means that u can use any of the beautiful names to ask of anything from ALLAH since he is the only one bearing the names. So u dont tag a particular dua to each name. Ur opinion means ARRAHMAN is different from ARRAHEEM et cetera.
If I am to go with ur opinion what will u put in front of YA ALLAH?

easy bro, we shudnt argue, and its my opinion
ansa to ur qst, wat does Ya Allah mean....Oh God!
So wud u say Oh God, god me
I stil insist u are mistaken, Ya Razaq 100ce, wat hapend to the Provider??

Herdelove: Hey!i have nt see anyone admitted for pharmacy oo,why,even a frnd of my frm kwara wit 245 aggr,have nt been given pharmacy o.

mayb and only mayb they hvnt admitd Kwarians cos am from Kwara also and hvnt been admitted...remember, its MAYBE

cleanvessel: Thank you.

I noticed everything you said here did not defend the particular contradiction among the so many that there are.

Therefore your allegations against the bible is a case of a port calling a kettle black.

who is the kettle and who is the port??

cleanvessel: The truth remains that the quran contains a lot of contradictions, an evidence that it might not have come from the true omniscient God as being claimed by muslims.

am stil requesting, can u please list the so many errors, wat u dnt get is the fact that english changes evritym, u cant compare nowadays english to the '80s, thats why ther r so many faults in the bible, peharps, had the bible been in its Aramaic lang, nd Hebrew, then translating then, not extincting the original version, then all these wudnt have apend, u said the Qur'an has contracdiction, bring them out...that one u mentiond in the oda thread, i'l look into it and gv u ansa

cleanvessel: The violent manner Gabriel approached Muhammad to reveal the quran is still a question that cannot be answered by the muslim world. It is not in the character of the true God to torture his messenger before sending him good news like Muhammad experienced. What has good news got to do with torture, which account for the reason islam is violent today.

he could not read, he could not write, and u expect im to be able to preach the Qur'an at 1st, the violent manner wch u say, i dont blame it, its stil a point of correction among we muslims in the sense that, the Qur'an the prophet receivd in seriousness is d 1 we recite playfully, moreover, when u are inputin the word of God directly in human's mouth, u tink its that easy, its the WORD OF GOD for christ sake, nt word of man

cleanvessel: The bible says ''if the foundation is destroyed what can the righteous do?''. The foundation of islam is faulty and so nothing righteous can be built on it. If Gabriel is suspected because of his wickedness, what he revealed is also suspicious and worst still is the fact that God Himself didn't speak a word in the quran to confirm his message.

nw u r saying Gabriel is wicked, i neva said so, peharps if he is, u wunt blame im, he was creatd from light not dust, back to ur statement, "if foundation is destroyd..." Isa(A.S.W) gave u guys no prob, in fact, u had a solid foundation, so i have no idea why and how u guys lost ur way, peharps u neva thought this...
The Jews rejected Issa,
The Xtians rejected Ahmad,
The Muslims accepted both of them

cleanvessel: Please note that when all these events took place islam had not existed and nobody could think it would exist. Therefore they could not be biased against islam.

peharps lemme chip dis in


then, they worshiped only 1 God, not the 3-in-1 u do worship now, or if at all u say u dnt worship em, the 3-in-1 u claim, and Islam also has to deal with only 1 Ilah

cleanvessel: Ishmael lived and died in Paran, he died at the age of 137 years (Gen. 21:13-21 & Gen. 25:17-18).

i hv no idea whr he livd nor died

cleanvessel: Paran was in Istrael, not Mecca. The Istraelites were used to doing things in Paran (Deut. 1:1, I Kings 11:18, Numb. 13:1-3).

neva said he ddnt live nor die in Paran, let alone say Paran is in Makkah

cleanvessel: Please note that when all these events took place islam had not existed and nobody could think it would exist. Therefore they could not be biased against islam.

had xtianity existed and did ani soul tink it'd eva exist

cleanvessel: 1. Since neither Abraham nor Ishmael lived in Mecca as seen from the above, how could God send blackstone to them to build Kaaba in Mecca?

Ibrahim left both Hajar and Isma'eel and went to some whr, while he was away, Hajar noticed that Isma'eel was cryin and thirsty, and they wer in a desert, so ther was no whr she'd get water, she then stood up, ran up and down for 7 times if she cud see water(thats the origin of Safa 'n' Marwa that pilgrims do pace up and down 7 times) befor she came, Allah saw her plight then pitied her, Isma'eel that had been cryin was hittin his leg on the ground(typical of kids), and as so doing water gulp outta d ground(origin of Zam Zam), then Hajar gave im water to drink, wen Ibrahim came and saw the miracle that happend, he deemd it fit to build house for his Lord, so both he and Isma'eel tried buh as they wer in a desert, d job was cumbersome for both of them, that is why Allah sent stones to aid them

cleanvessel: 2. Again, Abraham and Ishmael were long separated by God (Gen. 21:9-12). Since God was responsible for their separation, how could He tell them to build Kaaba in Mecca for Him?

i ansad that in the story above

cleanvessel: 3. Why would God choose to build His house by Ishmael and not Isaac, the promised child who He actually had an everlasting Covenant with?

next time specify that in the bible, Bible and Qur'an are two diff books, that convenat was biblical convenant, besides in the above story, did u hear of Isiak or his mother?

cleanvessel: 4. Why cann't you tell me an islamic book that gives a detailed account of Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Serah and Hagar and what it says about them? I suspect there is none.

u suspected wrong, go read qur'an tafsir

Those that hvnt bin admitd 'd hv a bit of prob cos ds list was based on merit....purely

cleanvessel: I don't believe allah (if is the true God) would still want an object to be so loved after it has been polluted by sin. The God I know would not permit it.

i cant ansa this, and dont capitalize on it cos its my comprehension, go ask people knowledgeable dan i am

cleanvessel: That the blackstone was sent to Abraham and Ishmael is another controversial issue. Abraham and even Ishmael never lived in Mecca. At best the settlers in Mecca could be Ishmael grand children.

u must b kidding me, how then did Zam Zam water came to b if they never lived ther?? And moreover, u said Bible, did Bible ever mention any soul that lived in the present Arabia?

cleanvessel: You know it is the bible that has the detailed history of Abraham, Ishmael and Hagar, his mother. Only the bible has records of where they lived and died.

u must b joking, i preserve my qst abt dis for anoda tym, cos it'd b diverging wch i dnt want to

B4 i gbagbe, they say admission stat is diff from admission list, how abt dt

abdoolhapheez: alhamdulillah...after 3 tries..i've finally been admitted to study biochemistry..

Ya Salam!! 3years??

olumorinmoses: :hw, can som1 tel me wot happened? piple who didnt hav my aggre got it. wot happened?

bro chill, we may hv depended on them, they hvnt faild us yet, mor names wud stil b aded, we can stil make it, and if we dont, then we wernt destined for it, have hope and take heart just as am doing

jhidey08: dat's d main reason y u're nt admitted yet, KOGI!! Jst pray, don't brag cos ur agg is high. Pray

K.W.A.R.A nko?

Dis thread na shi.t, someone is always onlyn

jhidey08: Congrats 2u guys dat av been admitted, and bst of luck 2 those dat r yet 2c dier names. Keep hope alive, aal iz well. Welcome 2 ABU.

i tink say na only 1 list dem dey release

cleanvessel: You said the black stone was white initially but turned black because of the sin of the people:

1. It shows those who go to touch or kiss it are sinners. For people to be qualified or allowed to touch or kiss such a spiritual stone, they should have been purified. Why did they allow the stone to be polluted by sinners?

for ur information, the stone was sent down by Allah to aid Prophets Ibrahim nd Isma'eel in building the Ka'aba, may i ask u, logically, from his time to the time of Muhammad(S.A.W) do u no how many years that was, it wasnt the Ummah of Muhammad that blackend it, buh the generations before

cleanvessel: 2. Having turned black as a result of pollution by sins, why should people still love and kiss a polluted stone as a religious act?

u wudnt wanna disobey ur Lord, wud u??

cleanvessel: I do not agree with you that those who kiss and those who stretch their hand towards it from a distance feel the effect. Anything polluted by sin cannot have any power or effect as far as the true God is concerned. Something is wrong somewhere.

am gonna gv u a very logical nd straightforward ansa......just ask any muslim wu has gone ther mayb stylishly, u no beta, buh do ask him if he felt it, i cant ansa that cos i hvnt been ther, and morever, it must b done with a clean and pure heart, mind and intention

Sodiq3: Congrates to The Successful ones and congratulation in advance to the yet admitted dudes...On behalf of The registrar,i welcum you all to this Great Citadel of learning....

yet to b admittd
Is there stil anoda list comin awt?

bro cleanvessel, u ddnt reply again, i just chekd ur profyk now, and i saw u still came onlyn till 4:38pm, do u succumb or u are goin to bring more quests

larrymoore: don't mind him, he doesn't ve the facts to disprove the quran

is that y he has to say ther is contracdition



SMH4H

[quote author=Mynd_44]At first bolder, well I wouldn't know that as I no dey enter that package.


For the second, you actually believe that more and more women are staying faithful? Abeg[/quote]u sure? Ah go say u teh me
2nd bolded, mtcheww, women my foot

Salam Alaykum, Most of we Muslims, we make this mistake while invoking Allah, although, unknowingly,

while invoking Allah usin his Attributes, we tend to say,
Ya Rahman, 100ce
Ya Gafar, 100ce
Ya Razaq, 100ce etc,
but do we know the meaning of this words??

Oh Mercifull, 100ce
Oh Forgiver, 100ce
Oh Provider, 100ce etc,
may i ask, do these words make sense, ofcourse not, how wud it seem to just b chanting Oh d Forgiver endlessly without addin notin, the question is, wat apend to the Forgiver, Mercifull, Provider, or rather wat should He do, i implore while invoking Allah, we fully invoke im, eg

Ya Rahman, Irhamni
Ya Gafar, Ighfirli
Ya Razaq, Irzuqni,
wch means,

Oh the Mercifull, hv mercy on me
Oh the Forgiver, Forgive me
Oh the Provider, Provide for me,

this way, it makes more sense than the latter.



I hope u learnt 1 or two things from this.



MA SALAM