₦airaland Forum

ChrisKels:
what's ur take on this?

Let's see how it goes. He should go to litigation and site Ferenc Puskas who was capped by both Spain and Hungary.

How much to unlock this thing?

tbaba1234:
Onyekuru should have been invited to the under 23.

How the mighty have fallen. From being sort after by Bayern Munich and PsG to Olympic Eagles.
Abi those were audio interests? Someone pls tag Colin Udoh

Your use of English is prestine and eloquent for a keke driver. You might even be more educated than the guy who owns the keke you're driving. That's the reality of the new Nigeria for you, where unemployment rate is tipping over the edge. I wish you all the best and hopefully you hit your weekly target and go on to do something more profitable. God speed bro

The story is not clear. Did he have a heart attack? Was he depressed and committed suicide? How can you loose a bet and just kpai like that?

Wow! The current dropped like a slow burn out candle. Wtf! This happened in the entire country?

adonis89:
NYSC DG is mad. Na my state u dey talk rubbish about. God punish u ppl. When Buhari's supporters killed corpers in Yobe & other parts of d north, was it Bayelsans that did it? The INEC REC in Kano that was murdered by after 2015 election, was it done by Bayelsa? I don't blame u ppl. The oil is sweet to lick yet u use that gutter u call mouth to demarket d state. I don't blame u ppl, its those sell out politicians in Bayelsa i blame

My fren, what are you talking about? You don't want Corp members to protect their lives or what? Bayelsa state is one of the states with the highest record of Corp members death as a result of violent cult clashes.
So fucking what if you're from Bayelsa state?!

Hamed Ali should close both air and sea ports. Abi China only closed their land borders?

komekn:
Tell me one untruth l have spoken.

We start of from the establishment facts from those facts we can make informed presumptions.

My view hasn't changed Eze will play for Nigeria IMO in the very nearest future.

Meanwhile no shame ask for tutorial before loneliness kill u dye.

I will rather take tutorials from you on how to beat a polygraph test than anything else.

komekn:
Tell me one untruth l have spoken.

We start of from the establishment facts from those facts we can make informed presumptions.

My view hasn't changed Eze will play for Nigeria IMO in the very nearest future.

Meanwhile no shame ask for tutorial before loneliness kill u dye.

Why cant you stick to a single narrative?
OK, let me make it easy for you,if you don't mind.
Was it because of the wrong approach by the NFF according to you or Eze's ambition to milk the commercial millage pursuiant to a prospective English international as the reason for him turning down the chance to play for Nigeria?

You have said two things on this matter which are totally perpendicular to each other.
Would you mind clearing this up?

komekn:
Your analogy is lacking substance.

Do we invite players through the international media.

If you want to approach a Lady do you do it on the main road❓ Or you find a medium with tact and privacy in person or otherwise.

I no, know how you deh pursue babe, it seems you no get lyrics and u no get swag hence you keep failing, consequently, you have transferred your personal failings to your self birthed analogy.

If you need tutorial ask me and Joebie we go show u. "Dem no deh take shame chop poison."

But Komekn, previously you claimed Eze will come around and play for Nigeria after he must have bagged all the dollars and pounds from corporate sponsors.
In a space of a few days you turn around to blame the Nff for Eze's monetary ambitions?
How does it add up?

In a nutshell, I've never seen a bag of hot air, falsehoods, assumptions, yet presented with such pomposity and arrogance. You missed your calling as either a politician or a con man.

Joebie:
Okay, if due process was followed, was Eze notified?
That would have been a good time for Eze to pull out and we will not be talking about disgrace. Why all this mama talk?

His mother could be his manager don't you think?
You know... Like Pogba's mum, Iheanacho's father, etc

ChrisKels:
It was accorded Ebuehi Bkus we never had him in our web prior his switch. U can give a call to a player who has no passport(as long as he's committed to u), then mandate the office responsible to hasten up and provide him with one.


BTW Leon declared two years before he was considered my Keshi, the big boss didnt go about craving his special consent when he was due for a call up

Eze has since honored a call to the English U21's since the London get together. You have to be a very poor manager not to consider seeking his consent before calling him up when his loyalty status is not defined.

Secondly, Keshi sort the consent of Balogun via a phone call. Balogun spoke about how excited he was to get that call, his father didn't believe him and told him it must be a 419 call when he told him Keahi called. that much Balogun admitted himself.

Joebie:
Rohr met him in a get together 2 years ago, and today you don't have all those information. interesting.. Why is Maja's case different?

Oga, maybe you don't have information how invitations get sorted.
Let me gist you. Players are notified 1 week or 2 before the invitation list is made public. Durring this little window, players can pull out if there are injured and replacement called up. That is standard practice. A player who has never been capped will be will be first contacted through his club or management to know his readiness.
Sorry to say, but due process was respected in the Eze saga. Only insatiable Nigerians will fault the management of the call up leaving the man at the centre of it all.
The bulk stops at Eze's desk here. You can't blame anyone else except you have contrary evidence.

Joebie:
help me.. because Eze was never quoted.

My argument here is that if he was called up outright, will we be hearing from his mama?

It is right he was consulted first before invitation. It is better a girl turned you down in private than in shoprite in the full public glare.

Joebie:
but have we not been disgracing ourselves already the way we have been going with these approaches?

naming a player who has honored a call once is not disgraceful to me at all, if he turns it down this time.

What is wrong in consulting him first? Do you know the state of his international passport? Are you sure he even has a Nigerian passport? You have to acertain his readiness before giving him a call. Same courtesy was accorded Ebuehi.

Joebie:
okay and what did Eze say according to that quote?

Like you didn't read the report.

Joebie:
The problem is we too like drama.. we say if a player turns down an invite it's a disgrace to our country.. all these rumors circling around about how these players are not ready, telling us to wait till next year etc say he mama this he mama that, what do you call that?
make una enjoy the fun hahahaa funny people

What is a country without a sense of worth and pride?

Joebie:
nothing changed.. nothing official.. just rumors. talking to his mother.. stupid stuff.

Rohr was quoted verbatim by a renowned journalist. Such report cannot be categorized as rumor.

Joebie:
we had prior engagement with Ebere Eze.. he was in the get to-gether.. he is familiar with us.. That's more than enough. Dude would have been delighted to honor our call since last year sef.

So what changed this between this year and last year when he would have been delighted to honor the call up?
Did we kill his father?

Eartquake1:
England, Nigeria requests for players of DUAL NATIONALITY consent before handing them an open invitation especially when he's playing in a youth team of another country

You don't just assume a player is going to play for you and disgrace yourself by handing him an open invitation

This was how Berti Vogts invited Toto Tamuz without prior engagement and the boy rubbished the country.

The media propaganda machinery has been in over drive since the border closure. The country is a perfect experiment on how government use media to shape public opinion.
Citizens of the poverty capital of the world are even paying twice for food items, they are taxed to death by the government, yet they celebrate and applaud a weird policy that seeks to isolate them from the world.
Mind control is real.

I don't know about the name, but the flag should be changed. The green white green is so boring and dry as dust.
The boy who designed Innoson logo should be contacted to design something better.

edi287:
He would earn more if he's marketable as an English international than Nigerian. It's just the plain truth.
You think Iwobi wouldn't have been getting much more from endorsement if he played for England?
I'll give you an example of Josh Mceachran. That dude was earning 38k per week at 2010 as a 17 year old. There isn't a 17 year old African no matter how talented they are that would earn that amount... Heck even in 2018. Not Nwakali that was a golden ball winner at U17 or Nacho after a the debut season he had(base wage was 15k).
This English premium we dey hear about no be for fancy. That can guarantee a player an additional 10-20k a week on top of what they'd earn normally.
I don't think finances is mainly the reason why Eze is having second thoughts but part of it.

Yes, the English premium is real, but these days other players around the globe have earned better commercial sponsorship than the English.
Iwobi was on 70k a week at Arsenal at 21. Everton currently pays him 120K. He is a Nike athlete, he also has an endorsement with Pepsi. I don't know what these contracts are worth but I'm sure he will be a commercial success if he becomes a world class player.
Football have drastically evolved, not only the English make money. No English man is in the top5 most marketable player in the world.

Zaha is the highest earner at Crystal Palace. A club record 130K/ week, yet he is turning out for Ivory Coast. That should tell you something.

edi287:
What Komekn is saying is Eze as at this moment is more likely to earn more as a English youth player/prospective whatever than as a Nigerian NT player which is partly true.
The English premium thing doesn't only apply to transfer fees but contracts and sponsorship deals.
The names you're mentioning like Salah, Auba, etc were mostly not top earners in their age group when they were Eze's age.

Bros, you build a brand over time. Mention an English U21 player who commands a massive endorsement at this time. Trent Alexander Arnold and Rashford he mentioned plays for traditional teams in the Premiership and they are full time England internationals. These guys are no bench warmers for club adn country. Their marketing value is what it is because of who they are.

A guy like Eze will will get enough sponsorship if he is pop and fashionable, has good social media presence, plays for a top team as a major player, wins trophies and generally has good cross over appeal. With all these in the locker, he will get good endorsements and fat pay checks. Its immaterial if he played for Liberia or England.

He is a mentor to others but he hasn't made money from the buisness.
How does that make sense

komekn:
You are educated, conversant and informed.

Why then can you not make a simple demarcation between player valuation transfer fee and personal terms as against player branding and commercial marketing endorsements. They are two distinct but complementary components.

My comments relate to the latter, as well educated as you claim to be the substance of the discourse seems to have left you lost.

Below two screen shots of two young players in the EPL. That highlight just one commercial endorsement not the entirety of thier endorsements. These endorsements can exceed players terms.

Oga, just hear yourself. You're claiming Eze is holding out to play for Nigeria because of the endorsements he could get from commercial sponsorship. That's a very childish way to analyze the situation, to be honest.
Do you know Aubemeyang is top 25 most marketable ATHLETE with a good cross over appeal ratings. Incase you don't know, this guy plays for Gabon. Can you locate Gabon on the atlas if I challenged you?
Mohammed Salah's endorsement with Pepsi, Vodafone and the likes runs into $70 annually.
Wilfred Zaha is doing well with his many fashion endsorments.
Your inclination about Eze's international future is rank amateur. You're better off not saying anything than coming up with waffle like this, as if you're preaching to primary school pupils.

komekn:
You are changing the substance of the discourse entirely with a completely new subject matter.

The question emanated from the proposition that playing for Nigeria will give Nigerian origin players forward leverage in thier careers and much needed marketing boost.

That proposition will only be true if the players in question is not doing anything of substance and us more or less obscure.

For players who have recognition already playing for European youth national teams and or already making waves in thier respective club and league. It simply adds no value.

However, playing for a major European nation will add much needed marketing value and lucrative commercial endorsements. Consider how much Nike pay Rashford England international and it brings some context

As you probably should know Pepe and Aubmeyang were both born in France.

In that context l am not sure how much these players get in terms of commercial endorsements from the likes of Nike, Adidas, etc if anything at all. That would be reflection of having less commercial marketing value within the West as African players.

We are not talking about transfer fees and player valuations alone.

Oga, forget long grammar. You can't confuse me with that. I'm not sparsely educated.
The post I quoted was very specific. You said Eze will play for the Super Eagles when he secured big contracts and endorsements. The pointer you threw was very clear and you viewed the situation from a position of prejudice, assuming the narrative that the marketing value of the African player is not up there with his English counterpart.

I cited examples where African born players get fat paychecks, with their values skyrocketing and equally comparable to the average European player. Some could transfer for world record fees.
Wilfred Zaha was quoted for how much by crystal Palace again?

Bottom line is that Eze is not waiting for any fat paycheck. If he plays for Nigeria today, he will still get transferred from QPR for £20-30M. Adidas and Nike will still sign endorsements with him just like they did with Aubameyang and Zaha.

komekn:
Once Eze gets his long term contractual future signed sealed and delivered.

He will play for Nigeria IMO my final word on the matter.

This is a false narrative. Being African didn't stop Arsenal paying $65M for Aubameyang ,£72M for Pepe. Keita went to Liverpool for £45M and Koulibaly will be the most expensive defender if he transferred today. Chukwueze's buyout clause is close to 100M.
No club will undervalue their prized asset because he's African.
We are no longer in 1995.

komekn:
You really have no idea.

You think it was Yobo that convinced him.

No, It was Obasanjo.

ChrisKels:
Respect Barry, respect. I still don't believe the news is true though, but being an Mbaise man, there could be some truth in the news

Mbaise people will deal with oh. Na them be government now for Imo.

Regrets about the failure to call Eze before this time is unnecessary. If he chooses to play for the English U21's ahead of the Super Eagles, it clearly shows he was never interested in playing for Nigeria, he fancied Nigeria when he thought his talent won't be recognized. If he accepted to play for Nigeria prior to hitting it big time, he will pull Kevin Prince Boateng on us.

The one and only player who choose to play for Nigeria when he was on the up still remains Victor Anichebe. At the time he scored 40 goals for the Everton youth team and took the Epl by storm with great performances. It didn't take much for Yobo to convince him when he had the attention of the FA.
Every other person bar, Victor Anichebe used Nigeria as a fall back option.