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PoliticsRe: It Is A Pity Nigerians Cannot Fight A Revolution by bashr8: 2:21am On Nov 29, 2011
kobojonkie:
Just look at revolutions happening in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen, and even Kuwait recently. It is just a pity that Nigerians cannot copy the game. We prefer to fight out dirty tribal and religious politics while the wolves at the top have a field day.

They are busy keeping us preoccupied with boko haram, mend, armed robbery and political thuggery while they enjoy their loots in peace. If none of these problems exist they know that one day people will unite and fight them.

Most of those countries doing revolution are far better than Nigeria in terms of standard of living but the people are not satisfied with the corruption in high places going on. They want freedom from corruption, dictatorship, censorship, oppression and slavery.

But just look at how igbo and yoruba 'warriors' on nairaland abuse each others fathers and forefathers in the morning. Then in the afternoon they combine to take out their anger and frustrations on hausa/fulani. which way Nigeria?
with all the bad names you go about giving the coup plotters and also the biafrans that wanted out you still go about preaching revolution? you people amuse me, why dont you start a revolution in yoruba land, hypocrites just know that nobody is going to join you , the military will have a field day dealing with you.
PoliticsRe: Emerging Social Almajiris In Yorubaland? by bashr8: 1:55am On Nov 29, 2011
lol accusing igbos of tribalism even when the article was not writtten by an igbo man , besides he is telling us what we already know.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Calls For Sovereign National Conference by bashr8: 1:47am On Nov 29, 2011
Uchek:
Volasunkan: How can Ibos be scared on Tinubu. Tinubu is correct in advocating for Sovereign National Conference because we need to discuss the basis of our existense as one Nigeria.

If Tinubu is calling for Sovereign National Conference in 2011, that means that Ojukwu was wiser and ahead of his time and contemporaries because Nigeria had a SNC over 40 years ago: ABURI ACCORD which Gowon rejected with the solid support of a lot of Nigerians who fought against ABURI ACCORD and Biafra but today are calling for the ideals contained in ABURI ACCORD.

So how can the IBOS be scared of Tinubu or Awolowo?

Please educate me.
i wonder why you bothered to reply that yoruba heediot.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 8:44pm On Nov 28, 2011
Katsumoto:
That s another lie you tell yourselves. Contentment with one's lot in life is the basis of happiness and not material wealth.

Secondly, the migration pattern is the true indication of economic prosperity.
south west is the poorest region in the south its no secret ,even lagos have more poverty rate than any south east or rivers and delta, lets not evn talk about the north.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 8:22pm On Nov 28, 2011
aribisala0:
you have made my point perfectly for me.
this is what the victims needed to believe in order to move on . that is what they told themselves ,repeatedly, and their children.
i do not comment on whether that is true or not but psychologically evolved people must see the purpose/function of narratives in general and that one specifically.

if indeed it is true that the outcome of a war would be different without"evil policies" most rational humans will pursue "evil" policies and we should not be sentimental about it
war can be evil and there is no creature more evil that the human
the igbos judging from their success are the only group that have moved ahead it seems the north and south west are the victims of the war still battling with poverty and worse off from where they were before the war and lets not forget what the ogonis and ijaws have been going through since then, we only want to set the records straight.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 7:55pm On Nov 28, 2011
aribisala0:
immediately after the war ended there was a sense of deep hurt in the east .
sadly they had lost the war and quite painfully too with lots of lives lost BUT
none of the post war narratives dared to villify any characters from the North
NOT ONE
e.g. Yakubu Gowon
    Hassan Katsina
    Murtala Muhammad
     T. Danjuma to name a few

even from the west Olusegun Obasanjo and
  the so-called Black Scorpion were all spared any
popular criticism


These were after all principal actors in the whole debacle. why does no one point the accusing finger at these lot.

The answer is quite simple really they were all military figures and in the prevailing mood the Nigerian military were greatly feared as such coming to terms with the psychological trauma has entailed transference of angst and so we observe the  casting of  Awolowo as the villain in chief. He was civilian and was a readily available scapegoat for all evils.
i will not come to his defence but whatever he did there were others who did a lot worse
what is striking is that the victims cannot even name them much less or more confront them or villify them . a very complex, psychology not dissimilar to that observed in victims of intimate abuse. fascinating
this has nothing to do with yoruba people but awolowo himself .there are threads for others but this is about awo and his lies. our parents never got their money back in the west and north, they also lost all their shares in the major companies in nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 7:15pm On Nov 28, 2011
LFJ:
What is the different, if you are in his position, I am very sure you will do more than that. War is war, you use all strategies to defeat enemies, and Awolowo, removing all sentiments do no wrong in thinking ahead of opponent. Any reasonable leader will do what Awolowo did; block all the venue that will give the enemies the strength to fight.
so what exactly should we believe that he sent food or that war is war so he had to block food?
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 6:58pm On Nov 28, 2011
alj_harem:
People lost there money outsaid baifra, and so

Was it there money or was the currency not changed ?

Did Ojukwu tell you the truth or not ?

Did ojukwu not tell u that he was importing weapons from the aids ?

STOP LYING TO URSELF IT IS 2011 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

stop being gullible it is sad
did biafrans also change the money in the west and north? what happened to their savings ?why was it taken from them while preaching one nigeria ode
PoliticsRe: Why Did Adekunle Make This Statement by bashr8(op): 6:53pm On Nov 28, 2011
Ileke-IdI:
Because in war. . . . you shoot at anything and everything.

Did you expect him to start passing out candy canes and roses in "no man's land"?
the average thinking of a yoruab man, the only suprise is that i was expecting it to come form someone else not you.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 6:49pm On Nov 28, 2011
alj_harem:
[size=16pt] VIDEO EVIDENCE REFUGEES FROM BIAFRA ARRIVE LAGOS for them to be kept from Ojukwu's war. thanks to awolowo[/size]



http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1967/07/22/FS220767100/?s=baifra+ojukwu+lagos&st=0&pn=3

another question. HARD FACTS

WHY DID OJUKWU NOT DO A MEMO ABOUT THE WAR BEFORE HE DIED ?

WHY DID HE NOT TELL US WHAT CONSPIRE BETWEEN HIM AND AWOLOWO AND DISCLAIM AWOLOWO'S FACTS ?

HE was alive then wasn't he

WHY DID NOT NOT DISCLAIM AWOLOWO'S INTERVIEW ?

WHY DID NOT TELL THE IGBOS ABOUT THE CONFLICT HIM AND EFIONG ?

WHY DID NOT TELL IGBOS WHERE THE MILLIONS OF BIAFRA POUNDS ARE ?

WHY CAN'T IGBOS THINK AND SEEK OUT THE TRUTH ?
what truth ? that nobody lost his money in banks situated outside the biafran region? look this cattle rearer better stay away from this thread
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 6:46pm On Nov 28, 2011
LFJ:
I have heard this story over and over again; the allegation against Awolowo was always center around these two issues of food and 20 pounds. If this is the case, what do we expect the man to do? Do we expect him to continue to supply food to the enemies? I don’t want us to be sentimental on this issue; what happen during the civil war are not strange; those are the consequence of war.
but from the interview he clearly admitted the 20 pounds saga so what are you saying, lets stop defending bad things, it maybe your turn tomorrow.
PoliticsWhy Did Adekunle Make This Statement by bashr8(op): 6:41pm On Nov 28, 2011
I want see no Red Cross, no Caritas, no World Council of Churches, no pope, no missionary, and no United Nations Delegation. I want to prevent even one Igbo from having even one piece to eat before their capitulation. We shoot at everything that moves and when our troops march into the center of Igbo territory, we shoot at everything even a things that don’t move”—Benjamin Adekunle


i have come accross this statement made by adekunle in several websites and forums but still trying to figure out what made him become an extremist towards the igbos cause even gowon and himself and the real enmies the hausa/fulanis never made such extremist statements about the igbos, what motivated him? did he have personal issues with ojukwu before the war? was there any attempt on his life by igbos when he was in the east? or is it just a false and fabricated statement.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 6:23am On Nov 28, 2011
Aigbofa:
How would you know who sent the food? And if no food came from Nigeria, then the reports of babies dying from food poisoning was fabricated. Lies, one of many told by the Ikemba.
yeah right after bombing the farms and food stores,blocked the sea ports then still sent food abi? are you that slow ,international organisation were initially bringing in food through lagos port when the cases were being reported cause it was passing through the army till biafra rejected foods passing through there.they had to start flying it in especially at night as they were being shot down by nigerian forces.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 6:16am On Nov 28, 2011
Aigbofa:
So there was some food coming through Nigerian territory? And there was fear some may be poisoned. The question then is not whether food was coming from Nigeria, but the real origin of the food, which Ojukwu or any Biafran had no way of confirming.

How then can you say with all certainty that Awo did not send any food.

Perhaps Ojukwu was taking the food, divert it to the war front and then tell Biafrans the food was poisoned and therefore destroyed.
who told you ojukwu or biafran soldiers were responsible for distribution of food? the missionaries, teachers and cillians were responsible for that and not ojukwu.watch the documentry before you make such comments.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 6:14am On Nov 28, 2011
lagcity:
there you go with the lies. you ppl are really pushing it. the money and property were given back to them, including the allocation of eastern state. still your ppl want to exchange biafran note for Nigerian money. na wa 4 u ooo. anyway, i have said my piece. it is up to u to look inwards and know where things went wrong. look inward.
which money ? 20 pounds? we are talking of those that have saving in lagos and other non biafran parts of the country like my dad and not those that had in the east or did the money in their accounts also disappear , denial is the problem of the yorubas.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 6:11am On Nov 28, 2011
Aigbofa:
So there was some food coming through Nigerian territory? And there was fear some may be poisoned. The question then is not whether food was coming from Nigeria, but the real origin of the food, which Ojukwu or any Biafran had no way of confirming.

How then can you say with all certainty that Awo did not send any food.
awo did not send any food, however gowon insisted food sent by international organisations pass through nigeria which biafra rejected cause of reports of food poisoning and babies dying from foods that passed through the nigerian army. they had to fly in foods secretely at night to biafra .
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 6:06am On Nov 28, 2011
Nchara:
Okay!!! Enough of old history that will only keep going in circles. In retrospect can we say that Awo would be happy today for the Nigeria he fought to keep together? Tinubu can be easily said to be the Awo of today. What does he think about Nigeria's current situation in relation to Ojukwu and the biafra war?
no its not enough we must trash it out with them , tomorrow now they will come and claim adekunle loved igbos so much .

lagcity:
A word is enough for the wise. Papa Awo was telling Igbos that they have enemies within but they are not listening. Igbo ronu ooo.
so was it why igbos and other eastern peoples  money were seized in south west and northern banks after the war? because they had enemies within?
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 6:00am On Nov 28, 2011
dayokanu:
I prefer the Benjamin Adekunle way

[img]http://bp3.blogger.com/_pyIBhtN_0F4/Rn465FD3haI/AAAAAAAAAI0/W5qMVDnJJII/s400/Benjamin+Adekunle+1.jpg[/img]

These people who think in warfare you have to feed your enemies? Is this Mortal kombat?
another yoruba that showed his true hatred for igbos ,at least he was brave enough to admit it and we also seee how yorubas are proud of him for hating igbos so much. hope you people dont rewrite his own account of biafran war tomorrow
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:56am On Nov 28, 2011
Aigbofa:
The Federal Government gets its money from all parts of Nigeria, some do contribute more than the other, but that is not a reason to declare secession and loot the central bank.
funny people so biafra should have handed over its own resources to nigeria. these were two seperate countries incase you dont know
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:43am On Nov 28, 2011
Aigbofa:
He didn't have to. You should have cried to the guy who convinced you all to embark on a suicide misssion.
you mean the guy who we cried to deliver us from the hands of wicked and backward people like you that have sworn that the black man will never move foward and will continue to be at the bottom of the ladder, pl gets your facts right about ojukwu.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:41am On Nov 28, 2011
Eko Ile:
Dude, we are talking about a freeking war. Awolow was on the other side, not on your side and he had no obligation to feed you, ojukwu too you to war, he declared his biafra state and you were under him and the biafra flag, not Nigerian flag.

You anger is misplaced, take your case to ojukwu. He not only failed to feed and protect you, he denied you food and that's a fact.

All your Awolow rubbish means nothing, it's even ridiculous entertaining such nonsense.

You people are acting as if WAR is some kind of tales by the moonlight gig. Very simple and naive people.


Isn't it moronic to be whining that your enemy didn't feed you and your army? Food is a matter of national security and your war leader should have formulated a safe and secure source of food that has nothing to do with your enemy.

Your war leaders not only goof, they deny you food, that was criminal and unconscionable.
my friend shut up ,awo had to obtain huge loan from imf to feed nigeria talkless of feeding biafra, who dash monkey banana and stop ranting cause your not making any sense.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:37am On Nov 28, 2011
Nchara:
Just wondering:

Is there any non-Awo evidence that Nigeria sent food to Biafra? I would like to read this. I know a lot of foreign agencies did. I did not know that Nigeria also did, as claimed by Awo. Can anyone corroborate this?
nigeria could not feed it own people cause the resources from eastern region were cut off(  talkless of sending food to biafra they had to obtain loan from imf to feed their own starving population ,howerver the few foods from international organisation meant for biafra but to pass through nigeria was rejected by biafra as they were reported cases of nigerian poisoning those foods especially baby foods.food poisoning as of that time was another weapon of war popular in africa.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:32am On Nov 28, 2011
Aigbofa:
You are the dummy here my friend, this is probably too complicated for your little brain. Biafra ceased to be part of Nigeria the moment secession was declared.
But secession did not gaurantee everything in Biafra belonged to Biafrans. Olodo
i ask you again what happened to the savings of biafran civilians in the south westerns and northern banks since we all know nobody burned down or looted those ones(assuming biafrans looted biafra according to your myopic reasoning)
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:25am On Nov 28, 2011
Eko Ile:
1.It's absolutely irrelevant what claims you spew about Awolowo because Awolowo was not responsible for biafra, ojukqu was

2. It's on record that Ojukwu and the man responsible for the people of biafra denied food to the people of biafra


3. It was foolish to go to war and end up depending on your enemy for food to feed your people and and your soldiers



Please stop the pointless argument, Awolowo didn't own you anything, Ojukwu owed you and he sold you out.
nobody expected anybody to feed anybody, nigerian uptill today cannot feed its people , especailly north and yoruba land .
biafra had its own food but farms were destroyed by egyptian planes added to the blockades in the coast of biafra ,bombing of red cross , food stores etc even at that we still flew in foods plus local production , una never feed urself na to feed others.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:20am On Nov 28, 2011
Aigbofa:
Did Biafra give back any of this money? The answer is obviously no. So Nigerian banks in the East were indeed looted.
your a dummy so a country looted itself according to your logic yet it had  its own banking sysytem anyway we are talking about individuals that had money and savings in banks in north and west , what happened to their money? ode
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:18am On Nov 28, 2011
9ja voice:
Awolowo interview claims that all the eastern nigerian last statements of account was lost or burnt?
did he think we are silly? how come no body ever has his statement of account?
if he is talking about banks last statement of account,how about igbos that have accounts in lagos kaduna and kano?
why they didn't give them their money?

i see clearly what he is trying to do, he is trying to vindicate himself thereby lying in an issue like this.

he said that igbo's will later know who there true enemies are?
pls awolowo since u know it and your pple says you are a realist,can you pls tell the igbos whom there enemy are?

am not your enemy, they are.  " who are the they? "
you dey mind am , he knows the real enemies of igbo people according to him yet he helped them accomplish their mission against biafra
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:14am On Nov 28, 2011
Aigbofa:
Well, I have never seen any picture of a scrawny looking Biafran soldier yet, or one with a distended belly.
you obviously know nothing about the war to think biafran soldiers were well fed, our fathers are those sodiers your talking about so stop arguing what you know nothing about,.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:12am On Nov 28, 2011
Aigbofa:
What happened to the Nigerian money in the East after the war started? Burnt?
changed to foreing currency , used as logistics and establishing a new biafran currency and banking system , now what happened to biafrans money in the west and northern banks ? why did they not get back their money or were the banks there looted too
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:02am On Nov 28, 2011
its unfortunate that all these trash have to come from yoruba people, one will think igbos should be arguing with the hausa and fulanis but its not the case here. really unfortunate
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 5:00am On Nov 28, 2011
ekt_bear:
Is there anyone who can have beef with his remarks?

Also, what is the deal with this bank looting by Biafra?

How can they do that then turn around and be angry at anyone else for changing money? Or not accepting the currency they printed as good??

Anyway, very interesting article.

So the food aid that was sent by internationals and meant for civilians was stolen by the army.

All those starvation victims were victims of their own side  embarassed
go and ask murtala mohammed and his nigerian army that looted banks in asaba, how can biafra loot its own banks in the east does that make sense to you? abi na bank for lagos they loot.
PoliticsRe: Exclusive - Chief Obafemi Awolowo On Biafra (in His Own Words) by bashr8: 4:56am On Nov 28, 2011
ekt_bear:
Is there anyone who can have beef with his remarks?

Also, what is the deal with this bank looting by Biafra?

How can they do that then turn around and be angry at anyone else for changing money? Or not accepting the currency they printed as good??

Anyway, very interesting article.

So the food aid that was sent by internationals and meant for civilians was stolen by the army.

All those starvation victims were victims of their own side  embarassed
lies upon lies biafra rejected food from nigeria or passing through nigeria cus they were poisoned the only food that came into biafra were from international organisations flying into biafra at night time to avoid being shot down by nigerian army. unless he is talking about after the war.
am sure you have watched the documentry on youtube.even  the egypetian planes were bombing feeding sites, hospitals and churches and anywhere biafrans used for their food programme , its no secrets the videos are all on youtube just type biafran war . let me just believe this post is a fabricated one cause its filled with lies and will dent the image of the man even more,

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