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Android17:
It was all of them. Every single one of them received govt money.

That's why they were all announcing for e.g "33" people had died or contracted C-19 in virtually every state in the USA. And every member of the media parroted it ad nauseam.

You're the conspiracy theorist for exposing it. Ignorance is bliss.

FYI, someone should actually investigate how the term Conspiracy Theory came about. Should be interesting.

Hint: started with JFKs death. When you were told to only believe 1 shooter was responsible and every other explanation was a conspiracy theory.

How's the 1 shooter theory holding up now? The govt classified that information for 60 years (so you wouldn't know about it). Just like they tried to classify the side effects of your jabs for 75 years (but failed).

But they believe that govt and call others who always seem to be smarter than the govt, conspiracy theorists. LOL

I had heated exchanges here who went along with ivermectin and HCL lies from Faucci and Birx.
Every year those who die from the flu are enumerated . In 2020 they never released any data or it was drastically minimal .
They was paying medical facilities for treating COVID ... Intubation, and care. Giving hospitals incentives to detect the virus in you, admit you ,put you on a ventilator and finally pad the numbers of COVID deaths even though the cause of death was another unrelated disease.The higher numbers were then used to browbeat Trump handling of the crisis.
Had St George of Fentanyl not died at the scene and survived his overdose for a few days only ,he would have been treated as another COVID death

Android17:
Yeah. His comeuppance is loading. Maybe just maybe some people will only then realize they had been deceived all along.

Denialists do you remember when Fauci assured the govt of 2017 that they will surely face a pandemic?

Yeah, DOGE saw $40m of USAID funds sent to Wuhan in 2017. The Wuhan Virology lab where gain-of-function research is being conducted. Basically, where they engineer viruses and possible vaccines to combat them. That is literally what that lab does.

Fauci used tax payers money to engineer a virus. Lied about the origin of said virus, oversaw the banning of all forms of alternative OTC drugs like HCQ and IVM (even though his emails showed he knew they were effective). Then supported people getting fired for refusing an experimental procedure they knew was never safe nor effective. Think of it.

And Biden pardoned him. That should make you wonder why Biden will do so right? No. That does not get well-thinking people infuriated. Instead, they pile on Trump and Elon for exposing bast@rds like him.

With RFK Jr I expect him to expose the rot.
Many top people at CDC ,NIH, FDA,etc alternate between big pharma and those orgs. They all cover for each other. They had the media and social media to enforce their desired outcomes. Deaths exaggerated, vaccine side effects downplayed, OTC drugs denied ,vax mandates enforced,Doctors fired for their prescriptions and people lost jobs . While sone elites were partying, Pelosi in a salon not wearing a mask Cuomo throwing parties, Newscum vacationing, during the shutdowns.
Others enforcEd COVID passports as a future tool to control movement.
Above all,election laws were changed to allow 100% mail in ballots in some states.
There is a very big element of criminality that led to COVID-19 and the actions that followed .
My guess is that FBI have everything on record,but have refused to release it

Android17:
I will read articles here and there to extract truth especially for people who trust those news sources but we should never lose sight of the larger game at play. The AP received over $52m from USAID to push liberal agenda.

That means they can NEVER be reasonable concerning this DOGE, Treasury, social security benefits discussion. The person who pays the piper dictates the tune.

Reuters, AP and NYT premium subscriptions at State Dept cancelled.
Govt was paying media to lie to it's citizens.
Scandal.

cococandy:
I’ve literally never been concerned or worried about IVF.

No that I don’t care for childless couples to have children but there are already babies existing without parents if they so desperately want children.

I know that there’s a group who raised alarm concerning IVF access if the law labeling fertilized eggs as human were to become nationwide. And their concerns make sense to me; because if you say fertilized eggs are babies thus women can’t have abortions because of that, then logically you’re against IVF since those eggs are fertilized too. Except your whole end goal is to control women’s bodies and not necessarily to protect the fertilized eggs.

Your problem is that you post so much on probably several different platforms that you’re confusing your posters.

Ban or encourage IVF, idgaf. I care that women should have access to abortions primarily. IVF is a luxury . Not everyone is entitled to it.

But every woman is entitled to bodily autonomy

Ok , thought it was you who said Trump will ban IVF . I'm sure someone did that here nairaland search is pathetic.
After a rape or unplanned exposure , one is adviced to take PEP ( Post-Exposure Prophylaxis) within 72 hours which is within the window for "morning after".
Pimps , child traffickers and perverts are the ones who promote abortion on demand despite all the methods to prevent conception.
Those pushing for banning petri dish fertilized cells are just zealots. Abortion in marriages does happen a lot too.
Taxpayers should not foot the bills for abortions unless it's for medical emergencies or rape or incest or special circumstances.
Willing participants must be willing to bear the costs of their pleasure.

budaatum:
Yes it is reasonable. If it were not reasonable, a political appointee could have easily revealed dump's non-tax statements.

Bureaucrats should be the ones to leak, TDS cost this one 5 years.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/former-irs-contractor-sentenced-5-years-prison-leaking-trump-tax-recor-rcna135908

Google trends from the DC area since November. A few keywords.
Seems like a number of swamp dwellers are sweating bullets.

IjeBos:
The more fake zeros you add the more fake savings you get.

Stacey Abrams 2 months old non profit with $100 in bank got a $2 billion grant. That was from the EPA funds.
Nothing to see here , all perfectly normal.

cococandy:
I promise you no one is looking to you as a good judge of what a reliable source of information is.

Even the people in your camp, would fail a lie detector test if they claimed that you know what a reliable source of information is.

You can absolutely take that to the bank. I’d bet a kidney on that fact.

Let's do a quick test.
According to the judge only bureacrats should have access to IRS data The judge had blocked the political appointees Secretary of Treasury from having access to the data . DOGE us blocked for now.

Question.Is this judgement reasonable? What do the correct sources say?

cococandy:
They are reliable on most matters except Trump should’ve been your clue that maybe your mind and brain has been hi jacked by a cult.

I should reemphasise . They are reliable on mundane non political matters . When it comes to politics they know their target audience is too dumbed down to question whatever BS they are pushing.

Ibime:
Mention me if you are referring to me please

I don't do corner, corner.

Leaving people alone to their delusions is a necessary skill to save ones time and headache, that's why you don't see me engaging Basil the bot.

I saw right through you I doubt your knowledge of economics. I've asked your opinions several times politely.
Forex trade and Investments you are OK. Other matters economy,don't see any substance from you .General knowledge and politics. Zero.

Android17:
I will read articles here and there to extract truth especially for people who trust those news sources but we should never lose sight of the larger game at play. The AP received over $52m from USAID to push liberal agenda.

That means they can NEVER be reasonable concerning this DOGE, Treasury, social security benefits discussion. The person who pays the piper dictates the tune.

From day one here , I've spoken out against MSM in general. I think it's just above 10 years now. I got fed up of the MSM two three years before the rise of ISIS, I doubt I have ever had a kind word for most of the progressive media since then. They just push propaganda.

PDPGuy:
Yes oh. I’m holding tight!

I’m even also hearing that the housing market in the DMV is reeling in anticipation of the tens of thousands of federal employees/contractors that would soon be laid off, because most of them may struggle to pay their mortgages/rent.

As you may know, most American workers are 2-3 paychecks away from homelessness, so don’t be surprised to see an uptick in rent/mortgage delinquencies in the coming months; unless Congress approves a CR that would actually pay the laid off federal employees from March through September

Were they given buyout but refused, there are last I checked over 75000 who have accepted.

Android17:
People that were wrong about everything concerning COVID-19 want to come back to the table to play miserable skeptic to the people who were right about everything. Yet same fools have gone right back to quoting the same news sources that lied to them.

Don't forget "Safe" and "effective" is not one lie but two. Hehehehehehe.

State AGs 17 of them are looking at statutes where they can charge Fauci since he got a federal pardon.
Dr Death will die miserably.

Android17:
You started by entertaining AP as a news source even though they are one of those who received USAID funds to push lies. This is like Biden saying "the FBI/CIA have ruled the laptop as showing all signs of a Russian disinformation campaign" by quoting Politico that were getting the same government patronage.

And you also did not even read the article. The caption and contents are at variance. The article says Trump & Elon may have exaggerated the number of dead/ineligible people who received the benefits.

Think of it. That is pure sophistry. It is not denying the claims but instead downplaying the impact. That's (D)ownplayingism - what Democrats do for their faves.

People really need to understand what the data they are looking at is actually portraying. There is no way of verifying that the person on the receiving end was the individual who qualified for those social security benefits. The verification processes, where available, are very lax. On the treasury's side, Elon said every single disbursement was approved by the treasury with zero proof of following any verification process.

Also, the lie about the system rejecting any D-O-Bs beyond anyone aged 115, is Julius Agwu Crack your Ribs material. Again, the system approved every single payment and there was no verification process before or after disbursements.

AP is a news organizations that supports progressive causes. On most matters they are reliable , when it comes to Trump or republicans they push lies whenever possible. I will occasionally glance through AP news and Politico with an open mind
For the figures released by Elon ,I will.go with them, that looks like some data extracted from a database. Snopes and other fact checkers work in tandem. One reports possibilities them others state it as a factual matter. Media reporting repeats the story as the truth validating each other.
It's more easier to defraud when you have a very dirty database. With every approval granted by Treasury staff , someone must have sent benefits to accounts in Panama.
I have not a single figure released about SS benefits so far.

cococandy:
Abortion ≠ IVF.

Take your meds pls or don’t talk about what you don’t know

You have not suggested Trump or project2025 would ban IVF?
If you sure you've never I'll apologize .

IjeBos:
It is not correct.
You got fooled again.
You are low IQ to get repeatedly fooled by stats that look nonsensical.
Payments are automatically not even made to people older than 115.
Garbage in, Garbage out.
https://apnews.com/article/social-security-payments-deceased-false-claims-doge-ed2885f5769f368853ac3615b4852cf7

Who said payments have been made to anyone not deserving?
The crux of the matter is that there are people who are not listed as dead but could be dead all the same including those from 1-120 years of age.
When you have a mess of such a database,it's easy for a dirty player to make fraudulent payments. Last I checked noone has claimed payments have been made.

I looked up a word I see "mea culpa". How do I use it here to make me look learned? Create a Latin thread and take your foolishness there.

Budaatum.
JD Vance is not correct here. Pakistan is an islamist country and has nuclear warheads..
Burr we all know what he meant , even though he is not correct.
The UK elites would by now be screaming he be banned from. Twitter, FB, Google search everywhere were it not for Nov 7.

Ibime:
I don't know what you are talking about and I'm not arguing anything with you. Come end of year, Elon must deliver savings from 20m fraudsters that he has expunged from the system, end of.

Stop listening to the enemedia Hear it from the horse's mouth in an interview with Sean Hannity.Trump and Elon.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6369030618112

Ibime:
It's actually been proven wrong and even published by the DSS last year. I'm telling you my first instincts as a finance person cos I deal with stuff like this daily. If your first instinct was to believe him, then you are a low IQ person.

He knows it was wrong and could have quickly checked why it was such, but his brief is not to do the right thing, it's more expedient for him to win votes by lying, hence he published something that was blatantly false.

And since he has published, he must deliver the savings his lie suggests.

This is not correct . Those not listed as dead?

cococandy:
They want a dictator. They’ve always wanted that. Remember they cheered him on when he said he was going to be a dictator from day one.

After he said that with his own mouth, anyone who repeated it was called a fear monger . Like his own word do not have any credibility.

Trump said he would a dictator from day one.
That's why he is obeying ridiculous court orders by Obama, Clinton and Biden judges
Loosely , a dictator according to me is one who has his will and way every time. Who is not challenged by anyone.
The definition has been rewritten.

bemeruca:
Russia is a threat to Europe that's a fact. Do they want to invade NATO Countries? No but they sure want to keep their nukes pointed at them.

Russia is a loud mouth. Their military can't overun Europe.. at least against any military that has anti radar missiles. Their s-300,s-400 and s-500 are crap.Without an effective anti-aircraft shield their army is just a sitting duck waiting to be annihilated like
Saddams army.
Russia strength is in their nuclear missiles,land,sea and air based . No way you prevent them from bombing any country on earth.

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Ibime:
The DOGE thing is just political opportunism and sensationalism to make political capital out of the norms of US spending for decades. Most of it is sensationalism to win voters just like Elon shouting about 130 year old people on National database

To make you think Democrats are stealing money and win your vote eternally

At the end of the year, we would just judge the growth or decline in deficit, National spending and Social Security spending to judge the truth or otherwise of the matter

Men lie, women lie, numbers dont

This didn't happen?
DOGE this month uncovered the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) distribution of $59 million to luxury New York City hotels to house illegal migrants. This led to a clawback order from the Department of Homeland Security and the firing of four top FEMA financial officials

I'm supposed to believe you and not this House Committee .
After I do that , O ye all knowing, should I DM you for further instructions on what to believe ?

Don't take us for fools.

Gbadebo19:
Noise!!!! USA is not like Nigeria where ghost workers are paid.

They also have 2 Trillion illegal aliens who vote.

WritterNg:
⚡Reporter: “Would you support Zelensky ceding territory or exchanging territory at any agreement to end war?”

Trump: “Well, he's gonna have to do what he has to do, but, you know, his poll numbers aren't particularly great, to put it mildly.”

“He's got a country where, you know, it's been savaged and attacked, and, he's got an army that's been very, very brave, actually, despite the fact that, you know, we've given him, in my opinion, $350,000,000,000. That's what the real number is. You don't hear that number. And Europe has given, in my opinion, a hundred billion dollars, and they've done it in the form of a loan.

And I have a secretary of treasury right now who's actually quite brave. He's over in Ukraine on a train, and there's a lot of things happening around that train that aren't so good.

And he's going there to get a document done where we're gonna be in assured that we're gonna, in some form, get this money back because we're putting up far more money than Europe, and Europe is in far more danger than we are.

We have an ocean in between. Europe has nothing in between. You know what they have in between? They have Ukraine in between.

So as you know, Europe is putting up money and they're getting it in the form of a loan. And The United States under Biden didn't do loans. They just handed money every time somebody walked in from Ukraine. They just handed them money, foolishly. This should have never happened.

It should have never started. And once it did, other things should have happened. Other things should have taken place. Like that's So, we're we're getting, security on our money. We're gonna have it secured by they have, Rare Earths, and they have, oil and gas, and they have a lot of other things.

And we're asking for security for our money.”

Trump is throwing Zelensky under the bus Wants election so does Putin Trump wants the money back. $350 Billion . Zelensky says he got $70 billion . What happened to the other $280 billion.
Was it kicked back to Washington DC politicians, MIC and deep state actors? I think so. Trump literally has no time for Zelensky. I have not heard so much squealing from Democrats and RINOs like Lindsey Graham. In conclusion Trump knows something about that money that we don't. ........
$350,000,000,000. That's what the real number is. You don't hear that number. And Europe has given, in my opinion, a hundred billion dollars, and they've done it in the form of a loan.

In the first impeachment Trump was accused of plotting to investigate his opponent. Zelensky would have said there was corruption he didn't. He would have handed over any evidence of corruption if Hunter and Joe to Trump and Adam Schiff. The FBI also knew about the corruption. They all threw him under the bus.

Obrigardo:
Majority as in Mandate?
Don't be stupid, post election data showed the rapist trump doesn't have the mandate. Lowest popular vote count at 1.3%.

Now tell me otherwise, show me your data, you rot and piss maga cultist.

On X someone is accusing Trump of being a liar.
Trump promised they would get tired of winning once he is elected.
The X user is not yet tired of winning and he wont ,which means Trump was lying.
Have a good day .

Livelystone01:
Now the question is, why are the so-called enlightened westerners still believing the nonsense being sold to them that Russia wants to take over Europe?

If that's not a certificate of being brainwashed I don't know what that is.

Distraction Focus the people's energies elsewhere as you continue grabbing more power from them.The ordinary person doesn't care if Ukraine wants to join NATO. The leaders are the ones who are sending arms to test their latest weapons.
I think Russia is just an overated military force minus the nuclear bombs. Their air defence has been pierced so many times. In Syria, Iraq Kuwait, Iran, Russia. Russia has failed to smash Ukraine despite being neighbors.Russia would take severe casualties if they tried UK, France Germany or Italy.

Europe leaders must be making money off Zelensky They send money, Kiev routes some of it private offshore accounts in Lichtenstein, Cayman, Jersey etc

AP is whining after being locked out of the Oval office and Air Force One because they are still using Gulf of Mexico.

They have been caught lying about DOGE.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2025/02/18/nolte-disgraced-ap-caught-lying-about-doge-then-stealth-edits-fake-story/

Sooner rather than later these media houses should be banned.

grandstar:
It seems very enticing I must admit but doing so won't end well.

It would balloon the budget deficit and add lots of money to the national debt.

Let this be used to reduce the size of the budget deficit.instead.

It would push the prices of everything beyond the roof.

If govt gets into giving students loans for school fees , universities definitely hike fees. You think so?

Inflation = Too much money chasing too few goods.

Zimbabwe inflation. To buy bread before introducing 100 trillion note one needed a wheelbarrow.

PDPGuy:
Not saying that there is no fraud going on with SS payments. But the images provide an explanation as to why there are “150 year old” people on SS..

Good explanation. There should be noone more than 150 years old .
How does COBOL then have more people 390 million than the population of 340 million.

PDPGuy:
So from $8,000 it now down to $5,000.

Either way, the plan still needs Congressional approval. Besides, if the $2 trillion target isn’t met, it would be more likely that taxpayers would receive less than $2k in stimulus payments.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/musk-doge-checks-00204813

Doesn't matter how much. Everyone can eat an egg daily for 33 years,. The mportance of egg prices dropping is more than slashing funds that were meant for the Azov battalion.

EU and Joe Biden are either stupid or they want to improverish their population.
They provoke Russia into a war ,blow up their pipeline and sanction Russia hoping to get Putin out of power .
Putin needs money to fund his war He sells oil at a discounted price to China and India.
China and India suddenly start exporting oil to Europe at s much higher price.
EU is stupid. China industries are now powered with cheap Russian energy. EU countries cannot compete with Chinese products as a result.

bemeruca:
https://www.nairaland.com/7958410/simple-steps-create-full-fledge#134040067

That was brutal.