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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:49am On May 17
Ijebosc:
There won't be any.
They used to accuse me of being anyone in this thread who sounded smart and wrote in complete sentences.
In those days they(Bemeruca and his bestie sly) would have accused you of being me.
Ijebos , you've been caught using different handles. I don't think much of you it's a waste remembering which , on several occasions I've accused a handle of being your alter ego. So have others. Especially the one about having a family 😀😀😀.
Anyone whose been here long enough can smell you from a mile away.
There's a pathetic way you frame things , a style so distinct that I even had to look up GracieX3 join date to confirm it wasn't you.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:43am On May 17
IjeBos:
BWahahahhah
Even Basilico agrees he is so dull.
clowns. I don't agree.
Cococandy, somrone who has decided to be conservative cannot be dull . How ?

I dont remember liking it at all
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:49pm On May 16
A common language with a national education is a prerequisite to development.Africa has highly learned people,Dr Mugabe had 7 degrees for example yet couldn't fix his country.
Add lack of a transition mechanism. Life presidents after independence. Greed , tribalism and corruption. Big man syndrome. President has to be the wealthiest person by hook or crook.

Nyerere ,a Pan Africanist eliminated tribes literally. He left a cohesive nation where tribe is taboo to mention He spearheaded a form of collective socialism, at one time it had fallen from 8th to 18th but is now 12th in Africa economically. Tanzania has never had a civil war.

bemeruca:
Having a common language does not mean having one identity.

Africans have failed to develop a national identity and as a result, deeply disunited. This is true from Nigeria to Ghana to Congo, etc.

African countries inherited borders that grouped different ethnic, religious, regional, and political interests together. It's why I argued our problem is stems from multi-culture and we don't know how to marry all those culture into one identity.

So real challenge was not just communication. It was building national identity, trust, institutions, accountability, and a culture of unity. And hat is where many leaders failed, not only leaders, Africans as a whole. Instead of building strong nations, many turned politics into ethnic competition, corruption, patronage, and power struggles.

That is why some countries fell into coups, civil wars, and endless instability after independence.

And people will always need something to blame. In US it's racism and systemic racism for every gap. In Africa, it's colonialism and neocolonialism for every failure since they can't find a white man to blame, they have to have a blast from the past as usual.

Yes, colonialism did damage. Nobody should deny that. But colonialism also left behind some structures that could have been improved: roads, railways, schools, civil service, courts, ports, and common administrative systems.

Our ancestors suffered the bad side. The responsibility after independence was to take whatever useful structures existed and build on them. Instead, too many leaders destroyed institutions, looted resources, and used colonialism as a permanent excuse.

So common language alone was never enough. Development requires leadership, maintenance culture (which is not a thing in all the ethnic groups in Nigeria and arguably Africa) , national unity, rule of law, and institutions that work.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:29pm On May 16
This is how liberals work here.
An unfavourable issue arises in America. They look for loose ends to rope in Trump.

CIA director was in Havana just the day their fuel reserves ran out 24;hour blackouts and so on. He demanded reforms .
He also warmed them that Raul Castro is about to be indicted just like Maduro.
A Cuban NGO operating flights over the sea to help fleeing Cubans to America had a plane shot down by Cuban air force when Raul Castro was the Defence Minister..
in other words Raul Castro should deliver his 96 year old body to America asap.

How do I rope in Obama.

Obama visited Pope Francis in 2014 or so where Pope agreed to mediate between Cuba and America regarding the blockade. The deliberations were held secretly in Canada with Vatican staff also involved ..Obama visited Cuba another of his failed foreign policy debacles .He thought granting the Communist Marxist Cuba aid and everything else would make the dictator improve the lives of Cubans.

Obama was in Canada last week. He was also in Europe lateclast year. Why?
Was it because some of the grants to Cuban were kicked back to secret accounts he controls in Europe and Canada?
I know this one about Obama sounds really ridiculous, honestly that's how you liberals are here 24/7 with wild insinuations.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:08pm On May 16
DeepSight:
Now, basilico, this was the post that triggered the Treaty of Reasonableness. I said I will come back to it. But beyond the direct issues you raise here, the holistic matter still boils down to the apparent backwardness (lower develpment) of the black race/ black countries in the current age, and that matter will be the subject of my response to TV01 in another post, in which I will copy you.

But for direct responses to this, here -



It is simply effectively a hereditary absolute monarchy where the monarch is seen as a deity and in that regard is not unique in history. Egyptian pharaohs, Alexander the Great, Roman Emperors, the Emperors of Japan up till the mid twentieth century, the rulers of the Khmer (Cambodia) and the foolish Emperor Bokassa of Central African Republic, are examples.

But this is an aside. What is key about North Korea is the absoluteness of its totalitarianism, period. You should bear in mind that Korea was one country and split post-WW2 via the cold war era Korean War. Thereafter, the USA flooded South Korea with investment, technology and its culture, while North Korea adopted the closed totalitarian disposition of communist states China and Russia.

However this is still a little beside the point, even if it explains the immediate causes. The real point is that the peoples of that part of the world have had a completely different history and development trajectory from the peoples of black Africa. Therefore temporary set backs are not enough to imagine that both started the race from the same line. It would be like asking why African countries are not at a par with China and Japan since both countries had to start developing again post WW2. THAT would fail to take cognizance of the fact that these countries have a deep developed history reaching into antiquity and merely destroying their cities does not erase that at all! The mind has reached a certain form and disposition and that is the real development - physical structures will follow!

Fun fact: The oldest hotel in the world which has been in continuous operation is in Japan and it has been in operation for over one thousand years. Beat that.

Thats deep. So calm down when making comparisons okay?



A homogenous society has advantages such as natural patriotism and an easier path to peaceful coexistence and these two factors, peace and patriotism are absolutely indispensable for development.

This is a fact.

Look at Europe. There is a country called England and there is a language called English. German, Germany. Poland, Polish. France, French. Spain, Spanish. Portugal, Portuguese. Italy, Italian. Greece, Greek.

But there is a country called Nigeria and no language called Nigerian.

And we know why.

Because it is a cobbled together entity which has more languages than the whole of Europe put together.

In fact, most European languages are really just dialects of two main sets of languages - the Latin set and the Germanic set. That is how close they are. And yet to achieve the peace and patriotism necessary for development, they have had to battle it out for a millennium.

TV01, basilico, hear this well: development is a path that must be lived and made local in mindset. It is not words on paper that can be photocopied. Institutions and traditions require lived experience. Nothing can substitute it. Not globalization, not the internet and not AI.

Nonetheless this does not mean that non-homogenous societies do not develop, of course they do, simply with more tumult thats all. And we have seen the unique example of America which is a nation of immigrants and has profited massively from the ideas and industry that people from ALL OVER THE WORLD have brought to it. A nation such as America therefore has a unique trajectory and I dare say that it is actually un-American to be anti-immigration because realistically, except native Americans everyone else there can be called an immigrant or the descendant of immigrants. This is, of course not to go so far back in human history that we will have to call even the native Americans immigrants as well.



South Africa is another unique case on account of Apartheid. Even tctrills your co-traveler admitted that its silly to expect black South Africa to emerge developed in 30 years. As I have explained above, they will have to battle their conflicts, internal inconsistencies, prejudices, inequalities and social psychology and melt into an even paste that will permit gradual peace and a sense of oneness sufficient to ground and pursue true development. Not all the advancement of steel and industry brought by the white man can magically do it. It has to be lived.

And there is nothing strange about this. It does not make them savage or inferior. It is just the natural path of all human societies.

You have to bear in mind, finally, that at all ages of time, different societies had different stages of development. Its like a cycle, and so it is not wise to look at one race and laugh them off because at a particular point in the cycle, they are lagging behind. Where were the Caucasians when Persia, Babylon and Egypt ruled the world? Where were Britain and Germany when Rome and Greece ruled (and yet these were people of the same race in the same area? The answer rests in the geography that TV01 so lightly dismisses).

Time and empires are in cycles.

When Europeans found the major cities of meso-America, they recorded that not even the biggest cities of Europe at the time could compare with their splendor and grandeur.

Yet a few factors decided the day. Mainly guns and disease.

cc: Ijebos / LordReed / cococandy / bemeruca / benalvino3 / Obrigardo / GracieX3 / raumdeuter / anonimi / GloriousGbola / RogersAkpafu /Bayelsaowei
Africa is not like Europe.. Favourable climate , no extreme heat and cold annually. .Africans never had an existential weather problem to solve.
Northern hemisphere people had to invent air-conditioning + cooling for their summers. They had to invent heating for winter.
Europe extreme weather meant that they had to figure out food processing and preservation .
In comes energy development. Our energy needed was for firewood mostly.
Africans never had those existential threats esp those within the tropics.

That's just one point I'll respond later.

Plus.
After independence nations in Africa has a common language. That should have spurred development, our leaders blame neocolonialism.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
GracieX3:
We deal with facts here and not your spurious conspiracy nuggets.

The Jan sixers entered the capitol building without permission and they were rightly prosecuted.

They are free to try it again in January 2029
Little knowledge is surely dangerous..
I'll share this about Pelosi
When you don't know something, don't make any comment, tuck your tail and run.
What was Pelosi daughter and her professional crew doing at the Capitol that day ,when Pelosi had already rejected 10,000 extra security guards.
What did they know that other people like basilico didn't.

By April 2021 , FBI has the cell phone number of Cole ,and his movement the particular time the bombs were placed. They didn't bother investigating further , fBI has over 8000 staff at Washington DC.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:43pm On May 16
cococandy:
Basilico which way bro?

I said Bemeruca is so so dull and you liked and shared it. What kind of friend are you? 🤣😭😭
Did I share that.dont remember.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:24pm On May 16
GracieX3:
Where the Jan sixers meant to be in the capitol building? No
The story is still hushed up.. What's in the dark will one day be exposed.

What was Pelosi and her daughter doing with a professional camera crew on that day? They sold the footage to some TV stations.. Did Pelosi know something would happen and having footage would earn her daughter some bucks.
Why did Pelosi and DC Mayor Ariel Bruiser refuse the offer of 10,000 National Guard which had been offered by Trump over a week earlier.
Why wasn't the guy who prodded Ashley Babbit enter through the shattered glass when she got shot indicted?
Why was the grounds a protected ground while Kamala was at the DNC headquarters.
Why did FBI who had the name and cellphone number of the guy who placed the pipe bomb within 3 months dither for over 5 years before he was finally arrested?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:43pm On May 16
Criminal trespass. If a policeman opens the door for you and you enter is that trespass?
Talking about trespass,the one person whose resence made that charge valid was nowhere near the ground at the time .She was just a few feet away from the Capitol Hill bomb .

There were 1500 people whose lives were ruined. I'd have to look at what charges they accumulated later to conclude if that criminal gene resides in them.

GracieX3:
Why are so many January sixers hardened criminals? They pardoned them and they still went on to commit crimes.


They are guilty of criminal trespass at least. What were they doing in the capitol building in the first place?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:07am On May 16
DeepSightZ:
You guys never cease to amaze me. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. The amount of Jan 6 convicts who have grievously re offended including sexually, after Trump pardoned them, is enough to make you silent about something like this.
Because they reoffended doesn't make them guilty in the first case on Jan 6.
Have an open mind on this Jan 6 . I have listed quite a number of names in the past . The rot runs very deep.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:04am On May 16
cococandy:
Like this?
Those are people already convicted and jailed who received pardon.

The ones I'd be concerned about are where a prosecutors refuses to charge someone,judge frees him then he goes on to commit a crime .Child predators especially like the example I gave

Am ugly example , that Ukraine girl who was stabbed in a train for no reason by a psychopath who should have been in a mental institution. Multiple violent felonies but judges still let him free .
Democrats successfully petitioned for her mural to be removed last week by the way.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:53am On May 16
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/charges-dropped-man-suspected-4-year-olds-attempted-abduction

Cococandy. Democratove freeing criminals and predators back into the society.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:50am On May 16
Liberals staging hoaxes.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:47am On May 16
bayelsaowei:
This is your evidence?

🤦🏾
Stephen DAntuono.
Remember that name.
Add this event too. Michael Fanone body cam footage.

I'll revisit when I get more information.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:44am On May 16
Virginia democrats were not to give up with their 10-1 democrat congressional map. Sued all the way you Supreme Court.
Supreme Court has ruled 9-0 against the Virginia democrats.

Meltdown from the democrats in progress

Georgia redrawing the maps. Difference is that they have race carved districts , they are implementing the supreme court order. Supreme Court okayed Texas redrawn maps already.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:24am On May 16
Peer reviewed economics paper demonstrates AI will crash economies in the end.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/economists-publish-mathematical-proof-that-ai-will-destroy-the-economy-405731/

Companies rushing to automate with AI results in worker redudancies. Workers are consumers of the products , with less or no incomes noone buys the very products.

The only solution will be to tax AI labour so companies can rationalize the need to retain workforces.
Methinks the EU will love that
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:44am On May 16
Exactly. Chinese want to live away from China ,yet it's the greatest country to some people herem


raumdeuter:
If given a choice 90% of China will be in America and never go back, how many Americans are dreaming of going to China and never go back

Chinese elites are sponsoring their wives to come and give birth in America, how many American are hustling to get Chinese citizenship

Who wants to live there and get $1 per hour, put 7yr Olds to work. Or critics of the govt disappear like Ali Baba guy

Ask the Moslems Ughyurs in China wetin their eye dey see

You can lie about everything but human traffic will tell the truth

To leftists, Every country is always better than America until its time to leave America and go live in that country permanently
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:35pm On May 15
N
bayelsaowei:
Where is the evidence that this man was the organizer?

Has he been indicted and or prosecuted?

But come to think of it.. if you claim DAntuono was the organizer, then it means Trump was the ultimate organizer.. because he was the president of the USA when JAN 6th happened.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:26pm On May 15
Give some examples instead of saying there are glaring

DeepSight:
The prime beneficiary was obviously Trump and that famous photo with the flag and his fist upwards and the three SS agents around him deserves an Oscar Award.

I don't claim to know the ultimate truth about that incident but there are many glaring flags about it that are terribly suspicious. The far future will hopefully unveil the truth.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:37pm On May 15
DeepSight:
If Biden was behind it, they would have had a professional hitman.

How can you be so biased. You can say all this and yet conclude that as massive as Jan 6 was, it was staged by who again?
Ironic how you believe it was staged based on liberal logic .
When presented with who was prime beneficiary, you make up excuses.
Joe Biden didn't say he'd know over the weekend whether to step down depending on what happened then. Biden didn't say he'd put a cross hair over Trump. Jill Biden suddenly didn't get a function in PA ,hogging all available SS agents in PA leaving Trump with local police and his assigned SS agents.

I'm usually very specific with names. Stephen DAntuono the Head FBI Washington DC field office was the organizer.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:13pm On May 15
Staged to kill him by Biden .

DeepSight:
Gosh. You will believe anything.
Yet you cant imagine that anyone believes one assassination attempt on Trump Christ was staged.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:00pm On May 15
bayelsaowei:
You are a very sick person.

You need quick medical attention.
Keep track of this one. You can make a mental note too.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:59pm On May 15
bayelsaowei:
But this BYD has become more profitable in recent times than US vehicles such as FORD, Tesla and on an immense growth trajectory.

And you keep yapping about Chinese government pumping monies. What do you think the US government has done so far so good for its own companies like Tesla both directly and indirectly.. ? Government loans, consumer tax credits to boost demand, state and local incentives, and others..

You yammer here like US companies dont receive huge supports from the US government.
Their vehicles are cheaper for obvious reasons,there may be more.
You may want to find out why ,besides selling Zero (0) Mileage cars as second hand , they also sell carbon credits to their competitors.
EU has imposed aggressive emission standards , gas vehicle manufacturers simply buy catnom credits to offset hefty fines.
BYD sells them the Carbon credits . See how it works.
EU vehicle manufacturers are subsidizing BYD EVs to thanks to climate change nonsense.
Where does BYD get it's Carbon Credits from ? . It only sells EV and plug-in hybrids , when it enters a market and sells a single car it generates zero emission regulatory carbon credits

Some time ago I had done a long post on how to generate Carbon credits in Nigeria.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:52pm On May 15
DeepSight:
Are you seriously suggesting the permanent enslavement of a people?
Nothing like that at all. It's just that you need to liisten to what they say in Arabic if really want to know their end game.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:17pm On May 15
DeepSight:
The thing about freedom is that the cry and passion for it will never die.
The Palestinian freedom is not exactly what you think they want.
One day you'll understand.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:55pm On May 15
Palestinians have lost Iran who used to finance them The middle east countries who could be called upon to reenact the oil embargo are firmly on America side now. The Palestinians are on their own.
Khaled Meshal never lived in Gaza,he and top Hamas political leaders lived as billionaires in Qatar.
Right now Qatar has no time for those Arabs of Gaza who support Iran.
They have no international clout ,they better make a deal now before it's too late. They might have to relocate to Sinai after being declared unfit to live with as neighbors

DeepSight:
It is a vicious cycle. If you cage, imprison, oppress and occupy the land of a people, you have enslaved them. If you have enslaved them, they will continuously fight for their freedom.

Occupied peoples have the right to resist occupation.

And when they fight for freedom, you then call them terrorists and say you have a right to suppress them and cage them.

This will go on forever if you dont free them.

It was the same in South Africa AND that is exactly why that country has a historic empathetic and psychological bond with Palestine.

Needless to say, the oppressors, including the USA and Britain, branded the ANC and Mandela terrorists.
Sound familiar?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:35pm On May 15
When Israel pulled out Gaza then those Arabs there in voted for Hamas,attacks started m When they were not firing rockets they were digging tunnels to infiltrate Israel. They were getting armed by Iran mostly.
The blockade is to prevent arms smuggling shipments by sea. They havea 20 nautical mile range for fishing shrimp ,prawns etc .
On Oct 7 Hamas Seal Team Six infiltrated Israel via the sea.

I'm shocked you didn't know all that .


DeepSight:
I said why must they block them from access to the world by even the sea, which is not owned by Israel?
Why must they block their efforts at international recognition and sovereignty?

Why must they police what and who goes in and out of Gaza, are they slaves?
Why are they expanding settlements in the West Bank?

So long as all this continues, Israel will never know peace.
Free those people, period. They are not your slaves.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:08pm On May 15
Palestinians are just Arabs from the neighbouring nations.They became Palestinians in 1964.



Before 1948 Jews were also Palestinian.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:43pm On May 15
Trump willing to drop $10 B lawsuit for $1.7 Billion to establish a fund for those targeted by Joe Biden.

https://abcnews.com/US/trump-poised-drop-irs-suit-launch-17b-weaponization/story?id=132962661

I expect the usual suspects to ignore that Joe Biden admin attempted to bankrupt every Trump ally they could not jail.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:33pm On May 15


I've always asked . Why so many liberals support unbridled immigration.
Feeding crocodiles hoping you'll be the last to be eaten.
Benalvino3

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:05pm On May 15
Im very clear I don't support child marriage.
My feeling was that you should not jump to call all epublicans paedophiles for not supporting marriages of 18.
My immediate thoughts on democrats banning that is to immortalize abortions.
My children won't get married before they are 20 ,if they get babies before I'll raise their kids.

I've always said people who are religious are less likely to commit crimes as opposed to those who are not. There are hypocrites of course I refute the statistics put out that there are more republican than democrats who are paedophiles, something you believe.



cococandy:
There’s something seriously wrong with the mindset that somehow tries to justify childhood marriage. The solution to kids having sex is not marriage .

“Oh look a child is engaging in sexual activity before they are mature enough to understand the consequences. Let’s make things worse by forcing them into marriage which further seals their premature sexual behavior and further complicate their lives with all the strains that come with marriage”.

You simply don’t have to respond to everything on this thread. It’s okay to be like “wow that is terrible” and move on. You don’t have to twist yourself into unreasonable shapes in order to find something ridiculous to say.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
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