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More on judicial blockade of electoral fraud.
Arizona judge yesterday denies Kari Lake motion to inspect absentee ballot envelopes.
Because it's gonna make people lose confidence in the process.
Of course once they see the massive fraud.
Some people think US is a gold standard in everything.

budaatum:
I don't think they send unsolicited ballots to open fields, malls, vacant plots in United States neither, but I bet kraken told you they did, under dump.

I was exaggerating, but some states sent a ballot to every registered voter. Where some had died or moved or changed addresses without requesting change of details. As long as the voter registration was not updated everyone in it was sent ballots.
Including locations that had been turned into a cemetery maybe.
This is one case. Snopes says it's true but was a computer error.
In another hundreds of ballots were sent to a university hostel which had been closed thanks to covid.

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IjeBos:
Every accusation seems to be a confesion with the GOP.



https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/a-florida-gop-leader-a-moms-for-liberty-founder-and-allegations-of-group-sex-and-rape

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Motherjones is a source to quote really? For someone who went to college?
dailykos and slate are propaganda extreme far left nutjobs.add rolling stones too. Don't bring their propaganda here.
Scouring the dregs to find a GOP pervert in a crime field the left excels in.
Like NYC mayor. Or this democrat Senator Durbin, a good friend of Bill
Clinton who blocked official Epstein flight logs esp to paedo island via Lolita Express.

budaatum:
I don't think they send unsolicited ballots to open fields, malls, vacant plots in United States neither, but I bet kraken told you they did, under dump.

Nah, I posted a liink showing excess ballots sent all over. Feel free to prove that they only sent to valid addresses
Cartoons don't help your case.

LordReed:
Even though I suspect the information provided in that link, it still shows several European countries that use vote by mail.

I doubt it's a leftist website which would just be propaganda and opinion shaping.
Nothing prevents you from verifying their data.

budaatum:
Nothing special about it.

Every one at the address they are registered at for rates plus anyone who lives in their household is sent a voters registration form on which they can indicate that they wish to vote by post and would be let.

They don't send unsolicited ballots to open fields, malls, vacant plots, abandoned sewerage plants, etc ?
Good for UK.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-latest-government-report-15-million-mail-ballots-in-2020-that-are-unaccounted-for

A fraud database makntoned here.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud


I would like this assertion repudiated
81-15= 66

President Joe Biden carried Arizona by 10,457 votes, yet Maricopa County alone reportedly sent 110,092 ballots to outdated or wrong addresses. The same scenario happened in Nevada, which Biden carried by 33,596 votes; Clark County sent 93,279 ballots that, for all intents and purposes, disappeared into the ether and are "unaccounted" for, meaning election officials have no idea what happened to them.

Lordreed, I've edited post with this Maricopa county.


The property at 2058 E. Wildermuth Ave Tempe was a vacant lot prior to and at the time of the election.
• The former resident moved from the property in 2019.
• The City of Tempe issued a demolition permit on January 13, 2020.
• The mobile home park was sold to an investment/development LLC on February 19, 2020.
• The County mailed a ballot to the vacant lot address on October 23, 2020.
• The County recorded a ballot as received from the vacant lot address on November 1, 2020.
• The County recorded a vote for the 2020 General Election from the vacant lot address.

budaatum:
Gugu postal vote UK.

UK allows postal voting but not mass mailing to every voter. Special cases .

LordReed:
Where did you get this from?

The link I provided ..

LordReed:
Show evidence that it has been abused.

I mentioned European countries AND the UK separately.

Show evidence that a 2bedroom house recived 64 ballots and that fields and malls received ballots via mail.

Here are some European countries vote by mail situation. Other European countries not mentioned in the screenshots are Hungary, Spain, Italy, Norway, Switzerland.

You only showed 4 countries
I will get the links showing abuse of mail in ballots

Obrigardo:
Cultist. The Court had already decided that the criminal trump organization was involved in fraud. This trial is to determine how much criminal trump will be liable for.

What law did he break?

budaatum:
Where Cohen said, you dummy, since we already know that only lies come out of dump.

Bemeruca answered you concisely.

LordReed:
I will grant you that since I didn't know automatic registration covered the DMV but you are saying it as though DMV visits are the only way to get on the election rolls. And even then you still need to be a citizen so a foreigner seeking temporary drivers license is not going on the roll. No illegals are getting on the rolls DMV or no DMV.

Because Democrats tend to be more progressive in their outlook. Your lord and saviour Trump used mail in ballots so it obviously has its merits but because it doesn't favour y'all you want it to cease.

BTW you have gone again and claimed that mail in ballots are not used in Europe meanwhile it's used in European countries, it's used in Canada and in the UK.

Automatic registration via DMV is highly prone to abuse. I think we can agree on that. If you are an overseer of elections and you want to run for a post later , nothing prevents fraudulent registration of ineligible voters on a small scale. Can be replicated wholesale nationally.

As for Europe you only mentioned UK.Most countries DON'T permit and those that allow it do it under regulated special considerations. As opposed to say Wisconsin? where every voter recieved a ballot mail long before election day. Some two bedroom house recieved 64 ballots, some malls and open fields also recieved ballots via mail.
Here is Europe mail in votes situation

https://www.idea.int/news/special-voting-arrangements-svas-europe-country-postal-early-mobile-and-proxy-arrangements

basilico:
Another Trump case about to bite the dust like all will if there is honesty.
Letitia James fraud case. She is suing for fraud in a case where there is not a single victim..
Star witness Michael Cohen testified that he was never instructed by Trump to inflate his assets. That should have been case. closed but the judge twisted h upis interpretation to declare he has a remedy ( for what aggrieved party?)
Yesterday a bank executive who personally approved Trump's loans had this to say.
Banks do their due diligence They don't follow the valuations by the. clients.
Banks loaned him money after doing their due diligence, then he repaid the loans with interest. Letitia Kes gets butthurt , wants to fine him $250m and ban Trump family from doing business in Big Apple.
Example. Who can give the value of Chrstian Ronaldo brand accurately?

OMG. This judge engoron is a nut case. Bank says they were happy lending Trump hundreds of millions , which were repaid. Prosecution says the loan applications had lies. Who is the victim?

My direct boss, Michele Fassiola (he's Italian) would like to call you and your Dad to thank you for being such great clients and for all the business we have been doing together," Vrablic wrote to Ivanka Trump in one 2014 email. "Your family is in the Top 10 revenue generating names of Asset and Wealth Management now and he is thrilled with how it's grown.

Vrablic described continuing efforts to expand the bank's business with the Trumps until he was elected president, when the bank decided to pull back.(To avoid conflict of interest)


What does that judge say?

"that the mere fact that lenders were happy doesn’t mean that the statute wasn’t violated"

Note that the Bank says it's a difference in opinion and did not disburse loans on what was presented..Banks have estate valuation experts.
Trump’s defense attorney argued that Deutsche Bank conducted its own due diligence and made their own decision to loan Trump money.

“The bank conducted its own due diligence. The bank had no problem with a $2 billion or a $3 billion difference,” Trump’s attorney Christopher Kise said.

Kise also argued that the German bank wasn’t harmed because it “didn’t change what it did based on what President Trump submitted.”

Implies that one makes a loan applications. Sends it to Judge Engeron first for scrutiny.

Eiffel Towers cost today is estimated at 70M Euros. How much is it worth.
A whooping 300B Euros to France though it generates around Euro 80m a year.
Letitia James and her fuzzy logic calculations of the Trump brand is laughable if not downright insane.

Black lives matter Rhode island co-founder endorses Trump.

LordReed:
Because you are only skewing the information to fit your narrative.

I can bet you the only reason Rebups are opposed to mail in ballots is because they have seen it favours Democrats more. If it had been favouring Repubs more they'd have been calling for an expansion of mail in ballots.

You said no DMV registration exists.I have proved you wrong
Mail in voters favors democrats. Gee why is that?

Advertisers need Twitter hundreds of millions subscribers Not the other way round
Musk knows this. If a public company boycotts Twitter, then it's profits and stocks value decrease, will shareholders not have a right to demand heads roll?

LordReed:
This is just false. You don’t automatically register because you went to the DMV or else it would only be people with drivers license thatcan vote and then what would be the purpose of another voterID. Only citizens are in the voter registers and that information is gotten from citizen information sources like births and naturalisation records. Non citizens don't get on those rolls. If a non citizen is not on the roll who is going to mail them a ballot?

Tell me this is false.Plus a whole lot other states..You should be arguing for safeguards in this , because it can be exploited

Again, Why not just voter ID, one day voting, no mail in voting like in EU unless by special circumstances and no Dominion machines. And why would democrats and RINOs never accept that.If you remember or care to some judges ruled that mail in ballots must be counted days after election day.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/bank-raised-red-flags-about-5-million-loan-chinese-firm-hunter

Don't investigate Joe Biden, instead investigate Trump for receiving Bank loans and paying back with interest.

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budaatum:
Show us where he said this so we can stop calling you liar.

Golan Heights was taken from.Syria.
There was a standing offer to return it, as long as the high hills are not military posts to rain down fire on Israel.

LordReed:
How is the UN behind the radicalization of the Palestinian kids?

One is by running perpetual refugee camps UNRWA.
Two most if not all Palestinians are Hamas, they are paid by the UN.
Three by UN being antagonist towards Israel by virtue of resolutions , Hamas is emboldened.
Four. By calling for quick ceasefires eg in 2014 and against Hesbolla, the criminal terror orgs are given time to plan the next major genocide
Five.By turning a blind eye to the Hamas weapons factories located in UN run hospitals and schools.
Sic
Six. By UN giving Palestinians money to pay off families of those killed in their suicide bombings and mass murder of Jews. PLO pays depending on the success of their ' martyrs'. Why would countries give them aid of which upto $300m a year is to compensate for life families whose loved ones executed terror attacks on Israelis.
https://jcpa.org/paying-salaries-terrorists-contradicts-palestinian-vows-peaceful-intentions/

I could go on.

LordReed:
Why do they need to register separately for it? Why not just verify the person on the voting register and issue the voterID?

Is that not where fraud comes in..If you automatically register using say Driving Licence then that means non citizens get on the register. How often are the registers cleaned?
When it comes to mail in votes, there are all possibilities of non citizens getting a ballot

LordReed:
LMAO! You don't need an ID to get SSN stop saying what you don't know. My children are citizens and I am not so which ID did i present to get their SSN?

Voter ID will be suppression because that is what the Republicans want to use it for.

This nonsense of illegals voting is just pure nonsense. The voter rolls are compiled using citizenship data so how can an illegal get on the roll?

I said a form of voterID for elections. Everyone has some form of ID , getting a voter ID does not disenfranchise anyone willing to get one.

[quote author=budaatum post=127225014][/quote]Was he inflating his net worth on bank loans requests. Or in talk in some dingy nightclubs?
Again as Bemeruca rightly pointed out under oath Cohen said Trump never asked him to inflate.
There you go.

LordReed:
But you lied and said Cohen never said Trump asked him to inflate it.

I lied really. Cohen the liar said under oath that Trump never asked him to inflate.
Cohen was counsel

LordReed:
LMAO! You don't need an ID to get SSN stop saying what you don't know. My children are citizens and I am not so which ID did i present to get their SSN?

Voter ID will be suppression because that is what the Republicans want to use it for.

This nonsense of illegals voting is just pure nonsense. The voter rolls are compiled using citizenship data so how can an illegal get on the roll?

What's the original sin?

[quote author=budaatum post=127225014][/quote]Trump inflated net worth? Good. First person to do dat. Let's get how he did and who determines your net worth. Wolfstreet for you.
After inflating his net worth Banks lent him $$$. After doing their due diligence based on sound business practices they lent him money Which he repaid with interest. So now Letitia James got a butt hurt Where not a single lender is complaining of being defrauded.

LordReed:
LoLz! A 50yr old man going to a bar is not going to show ID don't be ridiculous. ID for SSN? Are you dreaming? As for bank acct and driving license WTH do you think "black" communities are said to be underserved?

Good Lord. I queried about voter ID. And why bleks need an ID to buy alcohol. Need some form of ID to have SSN, DL, Bank Account, marriage certs, etc. Which I think all bleks can get with no hassle.
But a voter ID is a danger to democracy?
Because with a form of ID they live OK, buy guns to kill each other, start businesses etc But when it comes to voting an ID requirement is a danger to democracy?

LordReed:
Sometimes it almost as if your stance is different from what you really know is the truth. WTH will a "black" man want the "black" vote suppressed?

I can list many links from.politicians and experts opining on how voter ID harms the marginalized
On image below is the American Bar Association take, which is not a ragtag bunch of lawyers.
Seems like marginalized communities esp bleks have a problem obtaining an ID which is a requirement to buy alcohol. Or some form of ID for SSN, bank account holding or a driving licence. Please.
Next?

After this you might want to agree that the voter ID is a danger to democrats because they want illegal aliens to vote.
cc Timiofak ( You are a nice guy that can convert to MAGA) 😀😀😀.

Another Trump case about to bite the dust like all will if there is honesty.
Letitia James fraud case. She is suing for fraud in a case where there is not a single victim..
Star witness Michael Cohen testified that he was never instructed by Trump to inflate his assets. That should have been case. closed but the judge twisted his interpretation to declare he has a remedy ( for what aggrieved party?)
Yesterday a bank executive who personally approved Trump's loans had this to say.
Banks do their due diligence They don't follow the valuations by the. clients.
Banks loaned him money after doing their due diligence, then he repaid the loans with interest. Letitia Kes gets butthurt , wants to fine him $250m and ban Trump family from doing business in Big Apple.
Example. Who can give the value of Chrstian Ronaldo brand accurately?