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budaatum:
I agree. I for instance think Comey's investigation of Hillary two weeks befor the 2016 election lost her many votes.

Comey did not lose her many votes. He was forced by the contents of Weiner's laptop that had tens of thousands of her emails.
Some detectives unofficially said they threw up.

Comey had to, else the contents would have leaked.
We might hopefully know what else was in that laptop and who was involved.

donjazet:
@distroy, you have asked me why I'm supporting Biden.

My answer is this, many democratic system usually leaves you with imperfect choices, it's left for you to choose the better of those imperfect choices.
Your silence or inability to choose the better of those would most likely result in the worst being chosen.

I have looked at Biden and i have looked at Trump, choosing one between the two should be a no brainer.

Biden is a more decent, empathetic and rational choice than trump, especially in these perilous times.

Trump on the other hand is a demagogue who feeds on people's fear and insecurities. He constantly lies and misrepresents facts. He has shown himself to be a very terrible human being who lacks the decency and emphaty required to be a leader, more so of a great nation.

Between Biden and Trump, the choice should be obvious to any decent and rational human being.

The biggest lie about liberals is how they are adaptable to change their views. Lets start with what you just wrote.
In no uncertain terms you have declared Trump unfit based on your own interpretation of how a leader should be and you wonder how anyone else cannot see it the way you do.
Demonstrates a closed mind, fed with propaganda .
Conservatives have no problem with people who dont agree with them and will not project their agenda an others like you are making us guilty for supporting such a character as Trump.

Well well Biden is a liar, he went along with Susan Back Rice lying about Benghazi being a planned terror attack and blaming it on some obscure video you prolly never heard about. The video maker suddenly went back to jail from his parole.
Joe Biden touches young girls inappropriately.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H5NJZMDumY

He lies about his son corruption in China and Ukraine.

He is even lying about his mental state.

Sonoflincon is a example of liberal.
Only one position , the rest of you are trash for not taking his position.

liberalism is a mental disease.

wirinet:
Can you, Dr. President Trump and Dr. Demon sperm explain how chloroquine works. I mean the mechanism with which it kills coronavirus. Will the chloroquine work in isolation or has to be administered with azithromycin and zinc before it can work? Can it work with only azithromycin or only zinc. What's the work of azithromycin and zinc in the cocktail?

Where can we see studies on the effectiveness of either in combinations or singly, how these compounds kill this particular coronavirus or any other coronaviruses.

One is a gun the other one is the bullet.

AbdulSleeky:
Why not address the truth?

Are you not a Christian?

Why are you running away from the fact that trump is an adulterer, a serial liar and a thief that was caught stealing from his children's charity.

My understanding of the charity was that one when all the money from donors is summed up The foundation gave way more than it recieved from donors, meaning Trump topped up the rest.
One charge was that he raised money from veterans then gave his campaign committee leeway to disburse the funds to the intended recipients. He contributed 1m if I remember. He was accused by the obama DA of illegally using the money for campaign purposes which I think everybody does for publicity. On the matter of stealing, you are lying and you even mentioned the wrong charity.

I distrust factcheck.org but since you brought it up here is their take on Trump and charity contribution

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/posts-falsely-claim-trump-stole-from-vets/

I mean those who spoke at John Lewis funeral could as well have been illegally using the funeral for political purposes .
Or those rioters at Portland can as well be accused of an indirect political campaign because their actions are helping trump.
Or the media constant 24/7 anti Trump lies on say Covington saga is an indirect political campaign,... hehehehe they are paying top dollar for that debacle.

Do an unbiased research into Clinton Foundation.
Include 145m from Rosatom the behemoth Russian energy company that gave Clinton that cash after they were allowed to buy 20% of America uranium production capacity . Rosatom bought the rights from a Canadian Frank Giustra who is Clinton Foundation top donor. Giustra took a flight with Bill Clinton to Azerbaijan and got to own uranium mines there. Its a long story, should that corruption concern you, will take you some time . Bill later got paid 500k for a speech in Moscow while the deal was going on. I have yet to conclude that Clinton Foundation was ever audited.
Yet all we hear is Trump Russia

If you want more about Hillary, find out what percentage of visitors to her office while she was secretary of state ended up donating to her foundation. Might shock you but almost 100% of her state visitors ended up donating to her foundation.

salford1:
Sorry. We don't do HCQ for covid in Canada. Even if my doctor prescribed it, my pharmacist would never dispense it....
We don't wanna be like Brazil.
We are doing very well without HCQ.

There are many ways to kill a rat. Faith also heals too.

salford1:

Same way God made African dictators win elections. Even Hitler was elected by God according to you.

How do you say God cannot let? No one knows God's will and intentions beforehand.

But we all know liberals want to cancel religion

salford1:
Because you were his doctor. Second to the US in number of deaths. Trump and Trump-Lite are a mess.

Would you take HCL if you contracted covid?

So its not God who let him win in 2016

salford1:
I am not fighting HCQ. Brazil has over 100,000 Covid death. Wetin happen to the miracle HCQ often praised by their Trump-Lite president?

What the hell is covexit dot com? Is that one of those junk media houses created to spread false news and Trojans/malwares ?

The Brazil President took HCL plus zinc yo tirn from positive to negative.

salford1:
I am not fighting HCQ. Brazil has over 100,000 Covid death. Wetin happen to the miracle HCQ often praised by their Trump-Lite president?

What the hell is covexit dot com? Is that one of those junk media houses created to spread false news and Trojans/malwares ?

Is your concern who owns the website OR is it what skynews (acceptable channel) brings out of Turkey?

salford1:
LMAO

SkyNews is leftist. see how they covered Turkey wuhan virus

http://covexit.com/turkeys-covid-19-early-hydroxychloroquine-treatment-strategy-featured-by-sky-news/

Stop fighting HCL because media hates its proponent Trump

salford1:
The Covid in the US was compounded by travels from Europe and not China. Nice try.

Nice try. So Cuomo had nothing to do with it.
And Pelosi too.
New York supposedly made the virus spread further in America.

salford1:
An interesting unbiased article:
Trump and his bandwagon of fellow American conservatives that thinks like him dropped the ball big time.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-american-conservatives-ramped-up-covid-19-canadian-conservatives/

When Trump banned China travel he was derided as a racist and a xenophobe.
Pelosi was all over Chinatown telling everyone to visit and have fun.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/nancy-pelosi-visits-san-franciscos-chinatown/2240247/


And Cuomo .


he threat of the coronavirus was
looming over New York City, but Mayor
Bill de Blasio was not especially worried.
“I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on
with your lives + get out on the town
despite Coronavirus,” he tweeted on
March 2. There was an Italian film playing
at Lincoln Center. He urged people to see
it.
The day before, New York City had
confirmed its first coronavirus case. At
the same time, the virus appeared to be
taking devastating hold in Washington
state and California, in what many public
health officials were predicting was an
ominous sign of things to come.

salford1:
I did.
I would rather listen to Fauci than some demon sperm doctor or an article put together by some rightwing nutcase from a far-right media house.
I article is disgusting to be honest.
More from the article below:

Talking like you really need to change your worldview.
Is the right wing writer wrong?

salford1:
I did. It looks like an article put together by olaadegbu.

An article that talks about Trump derangement syndrome. In addition, the article is full of lies.

A screenshot from the article below.
India now has over 42,000 death and rising. Is HCQ not working in India?
We don't use HCQ in Canada yet we bent the curve.

Read your graph for once.

HCL is not the only drug . Where its used a lot unlike the US outright bans, non availability, faked figures and purposeful OTC denial , the graph even shows the flattening

Im assuming you are in agreement with this graph which is exactly opposite what leftists are claiming.

And yes in Canada from your last image clearly says young children , whom we already know seem to have very low mortality.

You just made my day.

salford1:
So after like 30minutes, this is the best you could come up with?

I don't need to read about HCQ now

How have other countries been able to bend the curve without HCQ? That is what we should be discussing. Not some HCQ article by some voodoo doctors like the demon sperm or from some dodgy websites.

Infact you need to read that article.

salford1:
Bending the curve makes it easy for the healthcare teams to manage the few cases that pops up. Nations quickly learnt from Italy's experience.

Can you tell us your own idea? So we call all learn.

Read this article without bias.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/08/07/theres-a-mountain-of-evidence-that-hydroxychloroquine-is-an-effective-treatment-for-covid-19-n763953

salford1:
Just like some EU countries, Canada, New Zealand e.t.c, New York has bent the curve to an extent. Yes or no?

I have no problem with those that have bent the curve opening schools.

Those that have bent the curve never letting the casualties go up have one thing in common.
Any idea what that could be?

budaatum:
If you point out just a tiny bit of the hypocrisy of the right my regard and respect for you would go through the roof. I promise.

Not with regards to wuhan virus.

The republicans love wars, that's where the money is. John Bolton was desperate to start a war with Iran , a needless war

DissTroy:
LOL. One of the bonus points I would have added, asides all the other evidence. You should see her tearing apart AOC with facts. Jameela Jamil was the queen manipulating everybody on the right and playing victim, until Candace ended her in early 2019.

Also, check out what I stated about the Democrats collecting ALL the #BlackLivesMatter donations to fund their election. No Leftie has disputed it till date since Coronavirus posted all evidence including documents.
Well MLK Jnr did warn about the Democratic Party though. Funfact: MLK Jnr was a Republican.

They call her a racist for her standing up for the conservative black including Christian community.

Actblue fundraises for BLM.

budaatum:
Most parents would not want to risk their child's life, if you think of it, and there's the child's fear too. Just imagine how a parent would feel if their child does go to school and catches corona and dies or infects others who die. The guilt alone could kill!

America is not the only place with school lockdown. We are responsible over here in UK, but the Germans, albeit a minority, are against lockdowns.

Im not for reopening without some significant semblance of the wuhan virus control.

I was pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals when their narrative starts playing openly against them despite the media being on their side

DissTroy:
The Cancel Culture is a leftist thing; which is why I used it now on you as one who is seemingly left-leaning just to practically show you how absurd and gagging it is.
There's, of course, nothing for me to gain if you deactivate your account other than the extremely fleeting sadistic satisfaction of knowing I made you do it. See? That's what the rest of the rational world thinks of the leftist eccentric and fanatical approach to issues. ...Like wanting to 'cancel' Elon Musk because he tweeted the "Left is losing the Center" and calling for a boycott of his companies. I could give a thousand other examples.
Antecedents have reasons for being so. Even if you didn't check my post history from over the years, my pattern on this thread since I have been commenting has been to bring official figures and facts to counter any criticism by naysayers. Every single time. I won't deviate now.
If you are going to argue more of the facts I would be stating even when privy to my antecedence, then I suppose it should come at a cost to you, albeit the one I stated.
That opined, I am open to debating Liberals who keep it rational and argue with non-disputable facts. It's a Saturday - perfect for the most stimulating mental intercourses.

Well Im not a liberal. I sort of like Candace Owens for her guts, she once ate a certain congressman for lunch, a who quoted her out of context liberal style of playing to the gallery. Was epic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpMZ8A3qVrs

DissTroy:
I offer to provide all three examples. Do you promise to deactivate if I provide credible or even official sources to back up some of those claims by Candace Owens? I'd post it here for everyone to be the judge.

Deactivate. Never. Now that is the cancel culture. where you get damned forever for one wrong.

Enlighten me , two sides of a coin are always welcome.

AbdulSleeky:
I hate Joe Biden.

Bernie Sanders is my guy.

That being said, you have no leg to stand on since you are a Candace Owens supporter. That woman is trash. Pure trash. She is a grifter that will say anything negative about black people for money.

Saying negative things about people only makes one trash if the said matter is usually lies,

Enlighten us with two or thrée examples.
Do not include her claim that Democrat party fought to keep their slaves because that is a fact.

AbdulSleeky:
See lies!!!

Even the same Washington post posted an article about trump disbanding the pandemic response office!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/05/10/top-white-house-official-in-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/


Snopes factchecked it and agreed that Trump did disband them.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/?collection-id=242252

Abdulsleeky

How can you believe that leftist factchecker snopes?

Its like believing sonoflincoln.

budaatum:
Children may not die but they can infect adults who might die.

Back to the children matters and school reopening.
Fredo's brother ie Cuomo the York governor has said he wants schools to reopen in the fall , well there are guidelines to be followed.

Like teamwork Schuck Schumer also supports the reopening of schools.

Looks like the dems are seeing that school shutdowns is not a winning strategy. Any parent would not want his/her kids to stay at home for a long time.

Meanwhile some teachers union had bodybags representing the children who will fie if schools reopen.

salford1:
When you have no line of argument, you quickly switch to far-right wing nutcases propagated conspiracy theories. You will also see zoro and not only soros. You forgot to add Bill Gates/5G or Beros/Amazon

Abeg swerve to that bullshyte thread you and the other cats created to continue spreading your garbage.

https://www.nairaland.com/5981755/us-politics-today/14

Those factcheckers are all liberal leftwing nutjobs. Show me one article they factchecked Obama and showed that he lied.
Just one example

salford1:
LMAO.
I quoted 3 fact checkers(AP, Politifact and Factchek org.
But no, we have to believe the lies of basilico and olaadegbu, unknown faceless entities on Nairaland

Of the three fact checkers, is there any that is not connected to George Soros, the Open Society or the DNC apparatchiks?

salford1:
Why do you orange turd minions like lying or take pride in spreading lies?
I guess you all follow after your god and demi-god - Satan and Trump respectively.

Lying Assosciated Press


o time to get up to speed.
The Smith-Mundt Modernization Act
(SMMA) was buried in the 2012 National
Defense Authorization Act for good
reason – because it repealed the 1948
Smith-Mundt Act. The Smith-Mundt Act is
also known as the U.S. Information and
Education Act, which authorized the State
Department to engage in propagandizing
foreign countries as a form of public
diplomacy.
The SMA established that via the
Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG),
Voice of America (VOA), and Radio Free
Europe (RFE), the U.S. State Department
and Office of Public Affairs were
authorized to disseminate propaganda to
foreign publics, but were strictly
prohibited from releasing that same
propaganda in America for public
consumption. Put simply, our government
was permitted to lie to people in other
countries, but not to us here at home.
This prohibition was lifted in 2012, when
the SMMA was signed into law by
President Obama, allowing the same
propaganda disseminated by our
government to foreign publics, to now be
released in the U.S. for the very first time.

This mayor of Portland while siding with antifa blamed feds in the courthouse for the chaos nevermind that the protesters were outside .
They were withdrawn and the protesters were about to incinerate local cops .

Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler (D)
on Thursday condemned the
violence that recently convulsed
his city, stating demonstrators are
“attempting to commit murder”
following an attack on East
Precinct, where violent left-wing
agitators attempted to set it ablaze.
“When you commit arson with an
accelerant in an attempt to burn
down a building that is occupied by
people who you have intentionally
trapped inside, you are not
demonstrating, you are attempting to
commit murder,” Mayor Wheeler,
who has remained relatively soft on
demonstrators — even joining them
last month — said.

budaatum:
If trump had said the same things you wouldn't be misrepresenting it like you are here for starts, and trump would likely have meant it like you've described above though you'd be spinning it differently.

I call it TDS. It makes trumpites brain's not work properly. Pity it can't be cured with hydroxychloroquine.

Exactly what did I misrepresent?

budaatum:
You are either intentionally lying or just plain stupid. Biden did not call a black journalist a junkie!

And by the way, are there no media on the right who can cover this, or don't they care at all too?

Biden has said to blacks that They aint blek if they dont vote for him

He also questioned this black reporter who questioned him about his cognitive tests whether he was a junkie ( in other words are you out of your mind)

He also said that latinas think diversely but all blacks think the same.

If Trump had said this there would have been nonstop 24/7 calls for him to be lynched