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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Another long read. How political correctness spread by leftists like Lucasbabe helped kill more Italians than necessary. Some all knowing leftists IMHO should face charges of crimes against humanity.
Typical lefist talian mayor advicing Italians to hug the Chinese so we can can viewed as not racist. 56k dead since then
This article was published on March 20 2020





One of Italy's top virologists said in an
interview with CNN that fears of being
accused of racism may have played a
prominent role in the Italian government's
initial refusal to close the borders to China
during the coronavirus outbreak.
Dr. Giorgio Palù is one of Italy's most
prominent virologist, having served as a
former president of the European and Italian
Society for Virology and currently a professor
of virology and microbiology at the University
of Padova. He believes that the Italian
government put political correctness before
the health of the Italian people, which led to
the "current devastating situation" in the
country.
"There was a proposal to isolate people
coming from the epicenter, coming from
China," Dr. Palù said in his interview with
CNN. "Then it became seen as racist, but they
were people coming from the outbreak."
Dr. Palù believes that this border control
failure led to the devastating situation that
Italy is currently facing, with over 4,825 deaths
and 53,578 infected.
According to Dr. Palù, he believes the Italian
government lagged in its efforts to fight the
coronavirus, saying the government was "lazy
in the beginning... too much politics in Italy."
Italy's first confirmed
coronavirus cases were Chinese
tourists
To better understand Dr. Palù, it is not only
important to understand China's connection to
Italy but also the way the media has covered
the coronavirus crisis.
What has already been established is that
Italy's first two confirmed cases were a
Chinese couple who arrived in Milan's airport
from Wuhan on Jan. 23 for a lunar new year
holiday. The couple traveled across the
country on a tourist bus with 100 other
Chinese tourists before health authorities in
Rome confirmed their diagnosis.
Only a week later, on Jan. 31, did Italy
implement a full travel ban with China, but by
then it was too late.
Italy is also home to 300,000 Chinese
immigrants, the largest population of Chinese
in all of Europe, with the majority located in
Northern Italy, which now serves as the
epicenter of the outbreak.
Dr. Giorgio Palù said that Italy let fear of
racism accusations guide its public health
decisions.
Besides the 300,000 Chinese living in Italy, 5
million Chinese tourists also visit Italy every
year, making Italy the most popular destination
for Chinese tourists in all of Europe.
Given the high volume of Chinese nationals
too and from Italy, many believe, including Dr.
Palù, that restricting China's access to Italy
much earlier would have prevented the spread
of the disease in Europe or at least slowed its
transmission.
The media attack Italians for
'racism' during Italy's
coronavirus crisis
Dr. Palù's claim that Italy may have feared
closing its border to Chinese travelers due to
accusations of racism may have also partly
arisen over the media's overage of the issue.
For example, the Guardian excoriated Italians
who demonstrated concern about coming in
contact with Asians after Italy's first two
recorded coronavirus cases were documented
as Chinese tourists from Wuhan, with the
article mostly discussing "incidents of
xenophobia and calls to avoid Chinese
restaurants and shops".
Other liberal publications, such as the Daily
Beast, claimed "hypochondriac" Italians were
overreacting to their fear of Chinese out of
"racism".
China's own state-owned news networks were
also pushing a narrative in Italy about racism
as well. The organization Associazione Unione
Giovani Italo Cinesi, which is funded by the
Chinese government, produced a number of
videos before the coronavirus took hold in
Italy.
In one video , posted under the hashtags
#ImNotVirus and #ImHuman, features a
Chinese girl runs around Milan with a placard
that reads, "Hug me! I'm not a virus." In
another, a Chinese man in Florence
encourages passersby to hug him while he
wears a face mask. The first videos was
posted on the Youtube channel New China TV,
which is run by the Xinhua News Agency, the
official state-owned press arm of China. The
second was posted by the China Global
Television Network, another state-owned
broadcaster.
Italian residents hug Chinese people to encourage them in coronavirus fight
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Some Italians took up the call from China,
including Florence's mayor, Dario Nardella,
who launched a nationwide campaign to ‘hug
a Chinese person’, which was featured in a
video posted to China's People's Daily , which
is also run by the Chinese government.
Nardella said he was running the campaign to
"stem the hatred".
Now, as the death toll has skyrocketed,
Italians and people around the world are
encouraged to use social distancing to stop
the spread of the virus. Hugging of any type
between strangers, whether they are Chinese
or not, is now out of the question in all of
Italy.
Calls to close Italy's border
were attacked by the media
Other politicians in Italy voiced their concern
early about China, but were attacked for their
position.
The Guardian claimed that Italy's former
interior minister, Matteo Salvini had "seized on
the panic to plug his anti-immigration
message and attack rivals in government."
"Every day dozens of flights arrive in Italy from
China: we need checks, checks and more
checks," Salvini warned.
Former Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini
called on checks and quarantines for visitors
from China.
Salvini also said after the crisis took hold in
Italy that “we were accused of racism
because we asked for checks and
quarantines. Talking about isolating those who
came from areas at risk seemed like a dirty
word in January, now according to virologists
it is the only way to limit the problem.”
In another piece attacking the Italian hardline
immigration politician, NBC News wrote that
despite Salvini's demands to close the Italian
border, "the World Health Organization has
warned that trying to restrict border security
probably won't work — and might even hinder
the global fight against the virus and the
COVID-19 disease it causes."
Since NBC's report and the WHO's warning
that "border security probably won't work",
dozens of nations have shut their borders
around the world after consulting with health
authorities.
Healthcare workers in Italy transport a patient
with coroanvirus
AP Phots
Other European leaders like Hungarian Prime
Minister Viktor Orban have made a direct link
to migrants and the spread of the virus in
Europe. In Hungary, the first two cases were
from Iranian students who disregarded
university advice to self-quarantine. Since
then, a total of 15 Iranian students with
coronavirus infections have been deported
from Hungary and the EU for violating
Hungary's quarantine rules and behaving
aggressively towards medical staff.
“We are fighting a two-front war. One front is
called migration, and the other one belongs to
the coronavirus," said Orbán.
“We have seen that it was mostly foreigners
who brought in the disease, and that it is
mostly spreading among foreigners,” Orbán
added. “It’s no coincidence that the virus first
appeared among Iranians."
China's authoritarian communist
government has a track record
of hiding disease outbreaks
Italy has long maintained close ties with
China. It was the first European country to
begin offering direct flights to China 50 years
ago. More recently, it was the first G7 country
to sign on to China's controversial One Belt,
One Road project.
Italy is far from the only Western country that
has embraced China in the last three decades,
but right now, it is the one currently paying the
most for this close relationship. China's
dangerous handling of the coronavirus crisis
have revealed the threat the communist
country inherently poses to the international
community.
Throughout history, migration and travel have
historically been tied to disease. Europeans,
like any other group of people, were no
exception. The most notable example being
the incredible wave of death that greeted
Native Americans after they were exposed to
a range of diseases from European settlers. In
turn, Native Americans introduced Europeans
to other diseases, such as syphilis, that
inflicted their own horrors on European, and
later, Asian populations.
China's communist government has been
accused of covering up the coronavirus
outbreak, which had a major impact on its
spread around the globe.
AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein
Perhaps the most famous disease in
European history also had its roots in China.
In 2010, genetic testing from researchers from
Germany and France conclusively proved that
the Black Death, which killed 30 percent or
more of Europe's population beginning in
1347 and routinely struck the continent for
centuries, originated in China.
Those disease outbreaks occurred during a
time before modern medicine, disease testing
and tracking, and even the most basic
understanding of what actually caused
disease. Now, governments and scientists
have significant power to influence the
outcome of an outbreak. In modern times,
China has been the source of some of the
most deadly diseases to strike a globalized
world, including SARS and bird flu, which both
predated coronavirus.
While there are methods to reduce the risk of
epidemics from taking off in the first place,
including proper sanitation, minimizing
contact with domesticated and exotic animals,
and reducing the overuse of antibiotics — to
just name a few — there is still always a
certain element of chance regarding where a
disease will arise and begin to spread.
What countries undoubtedly do have control
over is providing accurate and transparent
information about how a disease is
progressing in their own country and then
issuing warnings to other countries in the
international community about that danger.
China has a horrendous track record in this
regard. The country had already been
criticized for its handling of SARS after it was
accused of withholding information about that
outbreak. As a communist and autocratic
regime, China has no independent press nor a
government with true accountability to its
public in the form of democratic elections.
During the coronavirus crisis, China once
again hid the severity of the virus and even
silenced whistleblowers. Research from the
University of Southhampton now shows that
China could have prevented 95 percent of
coronavirus infections worldwide if it had
heeded the warning of Chinese doctor Li
Wenliang—who first warned of coronavirus on
Dec. 30—and enacted restrictive measures
three weeks earlier than it did.
Instead, Chinese police punished Dr. Wenliang
along with seven others for "spreading
rumors" about the virus.
The evidence shows that China's communist
authorities stalled as long as it could to
inform the world about the coronavirus and
only did so only once they could no longer
hide the severity of the disease to the
international community.
In the United States, the Trump administration
has been actively pointing to China's failure to
contain the virus. Former national security
advisor, John Bolton, has also said that China
is "responsible" for the coronavirus and that
the world needs to "act" and take action
against the communist nation.
"China silenced coronavirus whistleblowers,
expelled journalists, destroyed samples,
refused CDC help, and concealed counts of
deaths and infections. It's fact there was a
massive coverup. China is responsible. The
world must act to hold them accountable,"
tweeted the former U.N. ambassador.
Some U.S. journalists have also been willing
to take China to task for its actions. Shadi
Hamid had this to write about China for The
Atlantic:
The evidence of China’s deliberate cover-up of
the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan is a matter
of public record. In suppressing information
about the virus, doing little to contain it, and
allowing it to spread unchecked in the crucial
early days and weeks, the regime imperiled
not only its own country and its own citizens
but also the more than 100 nations now
facing their own potentially devastating
outbreaks. More perniciously, the Chinese
government censored and detained those
brave doctors and whistleblowers who
attempted to sound the alarm and warn their
fellow citizens when they understood the
gravity of what was to come.
Chinese migrants and tourists
were already a concern during
last SARS outbreak
Italian doctors have raised concerns about
Chinese migrants in Italy before. For example,
a report from the Journal of Emergency
Infectious Diseases documented cases of
malaria brought to Italy's Lombardy province
by Chinese illegal migrants—the same
province currently serving as ground zero for
coronavirus in Italy. In the same journal
article, health authorities warned that illegal
Chinese migrants posed a transmission threat
to Europe regarding the deadly SARS virus,
which also originated in China in 2002.
The authors of the article found clusters of
malaria outbreaks among illegal Chinese
immigrants, with the groups being exposed to
the disease "during a prolonged journey to
Europe (3–9 months) through a number of
Asian and African countries."
The report mentioned that illegal immigration
from Chinese travelers posed a special danger
at the time:
"Clandestine travel by air to emigrate from
China, where sudden acute respiratory
syndrome (SARS) is present, poses a threat
for the African countries, where the
introduction of SARS virus could have
devastating consequences on their health
systems with a potential overlap with the HIV
epidemic. Other diseases could be spread or
acquired by the immigrants in the countries of
transit. While curtailing the huge, illegal
immigrant system to Europe is difficult, we
cannot overemphasize the need for a sound
surveillance on imported infectious diseases
in this continent."
Although SARS only ended up presenting with
four cases in Italy , in Toronto, the disease
managed to spread after an elderly woman
from Hong Kong, Kwan Sui-Chu, flew into
Toronto after being infected with SARS. Before
dying from the disease, she managed to
spread it to others, which resulted in 316
infections in Toronto.
At the time, the news media was also focused
on alleged discrimination of Asians in the city,
but some Chinese residents expressed an
element of understanding about concerns
within the Toronto community:
"Since this disease has its origins in China,
people have a right to be wary of us,"
Jonathan Mah, a resident of Toronto of
Chinese descent, told the Telegraph in 2003.
"Some people say this is racial profiling but it
strikes me more as prudence."
Europe's continued acceptance of immigrants
and even tourists from communist China, a
country that refuses to accurately report on
the risks of pandemics that spread within its
own borders, carries a bevy of risks. European
decision-makers may have ignored those risks
in the past, but with a disease as severe as
coronavirus, it may no longer be possible to
look the other way.
The current pandemic ravaging the world is
only the latest import from China that has sent
the entire country of Italy and the broader
international community into a medical
emergency that threatens to kill thousands
more and financially cripple the global
economy.
Only time will tell how countries like Italy and
the European Union respond to China, but
economic interests and accusations of racism
are likely to continue to restrain leaders,
journalists and policy-makers from honestly
assessing the risk the communist country
continues to present.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:39am On Apr 05, 2020
A long read from americanthinker. com


A reasonable observer would expect a minimum level of professionalism from New York City health commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot. One wouldn't expect that someone charged with protecting New York City's public health would instead endanger the well-being of New Yorkers by ignoring the severe health ramifications and the real danger of the coronavirus. However, while most of the Democratic leadership of New York City was busy criticizing President Trump for deciding to impose travel restrictions on those entering the United States and dismissing the incoming threat of the coronavirus in February, this health commissioner was quoted stating the following on numerous TV interviews: "The risk to New Yorkers from coronavirus is low, and ... our preparedness as a city is very high." Barbot said this at a press conference supporting the Chinatown Lunar New Year Parade and Festival. "There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take a bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday [Feb. 9]." The unprofessional behavior of New York City's health commissioner, a Democratic Party appointee, has been labeled by many health officials as possibly criminally negligent. Under different circumstances, she should have been forced to excuse herself and resign immediately pending further legal action. Over the past few weeks, as we have witnessed the snowball effect of the rate of infection of the coronavirus, New York City officials in a Democratic administration should be held accountable for increasing the "risk" for the residents of New York City. They not only egregiously dismissed the coronavirus outbreak and pandemic in its earlier stages, but actually encouraged unrestricted public behavior as if there were no danger of being infected, as if they knew what they were talking about. The Democrats' nonchalant policy has been deadly for New Yorkers. Had this incredible and negligent behavior by the health commissioner been an isolated incident, the risk might have been contained. Unfortunately, Mayor Bill de Blasio also failed to shield the residents of New York City, partly through inaction but largely through indifference. As the coronavirus emerged from China, invaded Europe, and began to spread throughout the world, the Trump administration was formulating national policies to deal with the high mortality rate expected from COVID-19, understanding that the situation was one of life or death. Yet at the same time, Mayor de Blasio was busy criticizing President Trump for imposing restrictions in the United States in an attempt to prevent the import of the coronavirus through the airports and borders. Mayor de Blasio's indifference to the coronavirus threat probably contributed more to New York City becoming a center of infection in the United States than the actions of his criminally negligent health commissioner. New York governor Andrew Cuomo told the media at one of his many and highly effective coronavirus response press conferences that he believed that New York City schools should be closed. Mayor Bill de Blasio had consistently refused until then to shut down schools despite fellow Democrats in the tri-state area demanding that he do so. De Blasio's refusal to cancel school a week and more after most other districts in the tri-state had done so contributed significantly to the acceleration of the outbreak of the coronavirus in New York City. An additional de Blasio decision that contributed to the pace of the outbreak had to do with instituting a significant reduction schedule in public transportation, primarily with the New York City subway system forcing unusual crowding among subway-riders who were largely unprotected. One would expect that at the same time the mayor instituted a significant reduction in the subway schedule, he would authorize the cancelation of alternate side parking or cancel metered parking, encouraging those still working outside their homes to use private cars so as to limit exposure to the potential danger of being infected on public transportation. Instead, his administration encouraged use of public transportation and continued to disincentivize the use of private cars. Alternate side parking was suspended only a few days ago, and metered parking restrictions are still in effect as of this writing. Mayor de Blasio's irresponsible and reckless delays probably cost many deaths that otherwise could have been avoided. The number of infected, hospitalized, and dead is rising, meaning that the worst is yet to come for New York City residents. So far, there are 36,221 cases of coronavirus infection in New York City, including 790 deaths (as of March 29). In recent days, with social distancing and forced stay-at-home "guidelines" issued by the federal and New York State authorities, New Yorkers should hopefully experience a major reduction in infections and deaths over the coming weeks and months. The Democratic leadership of New York City would be wise to examine their policy decisions over the past month so as to avoid making similar decisions that can adversely affect the good people of the City of New York.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Fredo's brother who goes by the name Cuomo the governor of New York was crying daily on TV about Trump not helping .Saying he needed 30k ventilators . Thats 30k beds too.

Trump sent two 1000 bed hospital ships staffed by 800-1000 personnel to York and Calif.
The ships were meant to treat non Wuhan virus patients only so that hospital resources could better take care of the corona patients.
Rachel Maddow of MSNBC lied about the ships not making it to Calif and York in a matter of months. The ships docked within a few days. Maddow the lesbian never apologised.

Both ships have treated only 19 patients so far.Talk about waste of resources. Talk about media lying about how New York needs extra 30k beds and so far the hospital ship has treated only 10 non Wuhan (deliberate referring it Wuhan) virus cases.

Yesterday the New York hospital authorities sent 3 patients to the ship with corona knowing fully well that it was only meant for non Wuhan virus patients. Sounds sabotage to me. They claimed it was a mistake. Main stream media not reporting this.

Dems are nothing short of evil. Extremely evil devious pathetic sons of bittches.

To add salt to injury the Dems led by pencil neck Schiff ,Pelosi and Schumer are trying to investigate the crisis and specifically Trump response to the Wuhan virus crisis. Dont forget that as soon as Trump banned flights from China these scumbags called him xenophobic and racist to boot.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:27am On Apr 03, 2020
wowcatty:
These Democrats are living breathing demons and their end is near! They want the downfall of America so bad that you wonder why they can't just leave to a better country and leave the people who love the America in peace.

And the stuppidd deepstate fox news reporter playing dumb and not saying anything about thousands of sick foreigners trying to enter the US

See how they are bringing dozens of cruise ships full of coronavirus sick people into the US through Florida and then celebrating Florida finally shutting down. They don't want democrats states alone to be the only ones shut down, so they have forced a Republican state( Florida)to lockdown since the states can't take the sick foreigners. The governor is going to allow only 1 ship(Princess)the only ship that has some Americans on board and the rest will have to be transferred to their countries from the ship. Why bring ships that have no connections to America into the country if not for evil hearts of the liberals?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyqjCOMgeLQ
Also see how the Democrats tried to sink the navy hospital ship that Trump sent to help them in California with a train after the same democrats said the ship won't be there.

The democrats know what's in those navy hospital ships they want to sink, cry the CHIDREN rescued from all the military battles in underground tunnels that people think are earthquakes for the past few months in different states of America. The democrats know that their end is near, so they want to take America down with them! I'm crying so much, can't see my screen to continue right now.

Remember when I said the coronavirus testing kits have the virus in them to infect people who want to take the test? When I heard the Clintons and others calling for more testing, I knew that testing was the plan to spread the virus. All the testing kits Bill Gates sent to UK have the coronavirus in them. Ki ile to pa osika, ohun gbogbo ati baje! America is in civil war, please pray!
As much as I hate the Chinese I doubt the veracity of your allegations about the testing kits being a corona virus spreader.
The Chinco will be the biggest losers in this deadly thing their cat, bat,dog,ducks,hedgehogs, porcupines,snakes,etc wet market unleashed to the world.As soon as the corona is contained leve headed people will never buy anything chinese made knowingly.
Please provide proof. Im open to a back and forth fact checking.
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump Is The Real Lifeless As Us Death Toll Of Coronavirus Pass 4000. by basilico: 4:48am On Apr 02, 2020
The new Yorkers were told by the governor to go out, mingle and party in January.
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blame teump fir york deaths?
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump’s Stand Irresponsible,u.s Needs 6-10 Weeks Of Extreme Shutdwn – Bill Gates by basilico: 8:07am On Mar 27, 2020
Trump said he would like to reopen on Easter sunday. He is giving a target.
Without targets objectives are not achieved. He is tasking everyone involved to do their best asap.
On that day he will then call them all and do some brainstorming on how to quickly control the pandemic.
Target man . Setting target.

The christian hating leftists do not to want to hear that Trump can pull this through and celebrate about it on not just any other Sunday but yes on Easter Sunday.
If Christ never rose from the dead then Christianity would be nullified.
Too much for atheist liberals
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:49am On Mar 26, 2020
zendi:
So, better that lives are not saved,
Than that lives are saved with a drug that vindicates Trump.
'Liberalism is a mental disorder'
Is a book not written by me.
This simple action of blocking a potential life saving drug from prescription will sound a death knell to the leftist demonrats.
They hate Trump so much that patients would rather die than try a drug that has been so successful in curing at least 100 cases of acute chinese virus in
France
Italy
Australia
China


Democrats are worse than evil incarnate.
Foreign AffairsRe: U.S. To Iran: Coronavirus Won't Save You From Sanctions by basilico: 2:03pm On Mar 22, 2020
Friday prayers all over Iran led by the highest clerics including Kamenei lead worshipers into chanting Death to America.
Actually death to the Great Shaytan (America) and the little shaytan Israel.
Maybe you did not know that.
CNN will never show that.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:52pm On Mar 13, 2020
TheShopKeeper:
Andrew Gillum issued the following statement:

"I was in Miami last night for a wedding celebration when first responders were called to assist one of my friends. While I had too much to drink, I want to be clear that I have never used methamphetamines. I apologize to the people of Florida for the distraction this has caused our movement.

"I’m thankful to the incredible Miami Beach EMS team for their efforts. I will spend the next few weeks with my family and appreciate privacy during this time."



...Crystal meth is used by gay men in what's called booty bumps... That anti gay pastor Ted Haggard from back in the day got caught doing meth with a gay escort...They inject it into the walls of the anus so they can't feel pain....Gays of all colors use meth they stick it up their butt to numb the pain of an4l $ex...Proof that God designed for stuff to come OUT of that cavity and not go in...That's how the L.A. News Anchor Chris Burrows (also married with kids) died last year...
Most disgusting thing I have ever learnt. Gross.
The nether lovers really piss me off but now you enlighten me on how they deliver drugs to their brain.
Just gross multiplied by the number of TDS ( Trump Derangement Syndrome) sufferers in planet earth.
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump In Brazil by basilico: 5:33pm On Mar 13, 2020
The Brazilian leader tested negative. More fake news.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:02am On Mar 13, 2020
Swine flu
U.S. Cases 60.8 Million U.S. Deaths 22,469
Obama declared a national emergency after 1000 dead and countless infected.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:58pm On Mar 06, 2020
Born2Freak:
I swear. If Democrats are not sensible, Trump will win.
If they are sensible He will win in a landslide.
if they are not sensible he will blow out the demonrats and scatter them to the wind
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:54pm On Mar 06, 2020
Born2Freak:
There is a difference between socialism and communism.

One is an economic system while the other is a political system.

Most developed countries run a mixed economy. A capitalist system with socialist policies. For example look at UK and Denmark that have their government run healthcare system and government run schools despite being capitalist countries.



You have a problem with communism. That is where Stalin and Mao come in
Marx defined socialism as an
economic system in which the
government controls the majority
of the means of production: capital,
labor, and resources. A very
limited private ownership would
still be allowed in a socialist
society, but a central authority
would determine what is
produced, distributed, and
consumed. Marx believed socialism
was a transitional stage between
capitalism and communism,
although he often used
communism and socialism
interchangeably.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:41am On Mar 05, 2020
Simply beyond imagination that people here can suppprt socialism. Really reprehensible.
Indoctrination
Me thinks so. How many did totalitarian Stalin kill.. at home and Ukraine in orfer to break the peasants back.
How many did Mao Zedong kill.How many did Fidel Castro kill. And Cambodia. And vietnam. And nicaragua. and Venezuela.
For real socialism the powers that be must jave absolute powers and proletarians holloi poloi must have no say
Seems like people just go to school to not learn anything
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:41am On Mar 05, 2020
Simply beyond imagination that people here can suppprt socialism.
Indoctrination
Me thinks so. How many did totalitarian Stalin kill.. at home and Ukraine in orfer to break the peasants back.
How many did Mao Zedong kill.How many did Fidel Castro kill. And Cambodia. And vietnam. And nicaragua. and Venezuela.
For real socialism the powers that be must jave absolute powers and proletarians holloi poloi must have no say
Seems like people just go to school to not learn anything
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:00am On Mar 03, 2020
Kopfschmerzenmd:
How's that different from the democratic socialism Bernie is talking about? Nice how you skip the growing poverty in the US and the lobbyists buying out all our politicians. Folks don't have to pay 10k for a broken wrist.
Let Bezos make his money. Tax him out of existence and he will shift l his money out.
Name one country , only one where socialism has worked. Europe is overrun with leftist govts that use taxes generated by big corporations that Ihave mentioned, I forgot to mention Shell, BP, that funds social programs like free healthcare. And which the religion of climate change wants to get rid of

I hope you can see now the idiocy of your argument praising socialism in Europe where they use taxes generated by big Corp to fund leftist socialist endeavors. China uses it's leverage to
Loan money with huge interst rates to third world
Controls at least 50percent of the companies
Buy US stocks thru govt controlled companies
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:43am On Mar 03, 2020
Kopfschmerzenmd:
Genius is capitalism also responsible for the near free education and health care in Europe? Now do the ranging poverty in Black hoods, Appalachia America and the third world poverty in Southern Dixies states.
The simple fact is that socialism has never worked .

They are basically a capitalist territory with some widespread safety social nets. What drives their economy is free enterprise not socialist big govt control of the means of production. Think Nokia, Daimler, Bayer, INEOS, Barclays, Standard Bank, , etc. They operate under free enterprise but the taxes they generate are used to subsidize some socialist programs by the big gov.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:39am On Mar 03, 2020
The education system has failed some people. Capitalism is the only system that has lifted millions of people out of poverty. China adopted capitalist policies and lifted 600m from abject poverty
Socialism is a precursor to pure communism. To rephrase communism is a system where the govt becomes too big, controlling the means of production.
Communist countries
Cuba
Venezuela
Haiti
Cambodia
Vietnam now adopting capitalist policies
Haiti
Nicaragua

Capitalism works where there is freedom of speech though. Where u can say anything witjout being afraid as long as its not libelius.

Ukraine under socialism had the oeasants back broken by Stalin. Millions died because big gov ordered all harvest handed over yo govt
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:16am On Feb 29, 2020
The left is just plainly evil. Instead of working to control corona they are hoping it affects the economy negatively.
Pure plain evil.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:39am On Feb 26, 2020
Harvey Weinsten found guilty. Faces 90 more women accusing him of various criminal charges.
Donated a lot of money to democrats such as Clintons, Kerry and Obama.

They accepted his donations whole heartedly. They were happy to hang out with him despite them knowing that this convicted powerful producer had been mistreating women all his life. Casting couch.They all knew.
At the Oscar 2013 Seth Macfarlane made a joke about the nominees no longer needing to look good for Weinstein


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIXkEgeevw8

Obama is even worse.
He sent his daughter for internship at Harvey's Miramax studios. This was after leaving White House. Get it. 4 years after Macfarlane outs Weinstein at the Oscars Obama sends his daughter to intern at his studios.!What a corrupt SOB. This effectively protected Weinstein because Obama had to have no scandal to his name. Too bad the internet never forgets.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljry5c5pONE

Here is Mitchelle Obama praising Harvey Weinstein at the White House of all other places.
Michelle Obama:" Harvey Weinstein is a wonderful human being, a good friend and just a powerhouse"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImZH3qs_pEk

Democrats are hypocrites. Before #MeToo movement they were all over this creep facing accusations by over 90 more women in California as of now.
Don't tell me the Obama's did not know. If ordinary people knew how can the head of state, that PoS Obama not have known that Harvey was a monster? If Obama knew that Harvey was a monster and kept quiet because Harvey donated to his campaign is that not a bribe?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:28pm On Feb 24, 2020
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wowcatty:
Media know Trump is not racist, they hate him because he has come to disrupt their system, the one no outside is allowed to be closed to in Washington. No one has ever been the president of the US without the backing of the cia except few who paid with their lives. There are two sides to Washington 85% Democrats/establishment/deepstate/globalist/blackhats and 15% conservatives/Patriots/nationalist/whitehat. They knew they will have Trump as president one day according to PROJECT LOOKING GLASS/YELLOW CUBE and as predicted by Simpsons but had Saul Alinsky's book RULE FOR RADICALS as their guide to remove Trump from the white house, forgetting the God factor.

The media knows that Trump is not what they say but they have to save themselves because he's coming to change Washington and wrestle power away from their masters and owners.

The storm is now here, It's time for JUSTICE!

Btw, Bloomberg name is in Epstein's black book and that horse running toward the white house is actually carrying the real person running for the president who is waiting to get out when it's safe enough. Hilary must run for the president because she faces long prison or death sentence for crimes against humanity. From killing justice Scalia to sending tainted blood to Africa to Alice the wonderland to Haiti children to adrenochrome just to name a few. She thinks running for president will save her.
While offering a sacrifice to Moloch.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
JeromeBlack:
What nonsense are you on about?

Your Republican party supports a lot of evil and stupidity.

1. It was a Republican president Bush that carried the economy into a recession. This was caused by deregulation of the financial industry. Republicans love anything that will give big companies and wall street more money at the expense of taxpayers.


2. The republican party supports the wasteful and heartless healthcare system that leaves millions of people either broke or uninsured. Every other developed country has free and nationalised healthcare.


3. The Republican party is against reproductive rights and abortion. They believe that a woman should not have the rights to decide what to do with her body. The Republicans say that they are pro-life but they are ready to cut funding to many parents feeding children o welfare. They only care that the child is born...they dobt care about the cost of raising the child. Child care is through the roof in America.
It was not Bush , it was the availability of mortages to people who did not have the ability to pay.
Healthcare The older population is suppossed to be catered for by the younger working population. Heathcare needs a reform but govt should not aim at a total takeover of healthmatters.

With regards to abortion, why not abstain or use natural and manmade protections. As a christian O dont believe in abortion. Birth control is the key, the dems want a broken down immoral society where govt funds abortions, where gays can raise children, where religion is abhorred, where gender is not XY or XX chromosones but rather what you identify yourself. A man can also have periods, that is for a woman who identifies as a man.
The dems also want to ban fracking, get rid of fossil fuels, get rid of meat because it encourages cows, open the borders, give medicare and voting rights to illegals .
A whole lot of leftist bullshit.

Leftists want total control of lives, from where u school get treated.They want total govt control.
The biggest drawback to them achieving total control is that the civilians are armed to the teeth with 300m guns and a trillion bullets .And many civilians are ex military men.
Hence gun control is a key ambition by leftists in order for them to achieve total power.

Leftists are socialists which is a precusor to full blown communism. When a progressive leftist is asked where communism has succeeded, they say no country has ever tried full and true socialism/communism.
Bloomberg mocked Sanders that he is the most well known socialist in America and owns three houses.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:14pm On Feb 20, 2020
garetz:
This Obama judge, Amy Berman Jackson, has demonstrated time and again she should not be handling cases involving the president’s past associates. She’s not capable of impartial justice.

Most other judges handling this case would’ve been appalled by the conduct of the jury foreman and immediately undertaken an investigation of what transpired in her own courtroom.
Ive been live following the case. At least Stone has called for a mistrial. The obviously biased judge sentence will start after the mistrial proceedings are held.
She is an Obama appointed leftist judge.
The current AG appointed a DA to work hand in hand with the prosecutors who all resigned from the case.
Granted Stone was a loud mouth but others who in the DOJ/FBI committed more serious crimes than Stone who lied about being a point man with WikiLeaks and Trump campaign needlessly had their indictments shelved off. McCabe and Comey and Clapper who all lied to Congress
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Admits He Sent Rudy Giuliani To Ukraine After Denying It by basilico: 1:10pm On Feb 15, 2020
Rudy Giuliani said he has evidence of democrats laundering money from Ukraine over a seven year period from 2010.
That should not be investigated because its the democrats who were doing it.
He outlines a case where 14m dollars were sent to Latvia as loans, moved to Cyprus as loans and finally ended up in Hunter Bidens account. Classic case of money laundering. And Joe Biden goes live on TV bragging how the son of a bitch, Victor Shokin was fired in March 20160as a prosecutor Ukraine for Shokin had frozen Burisma assets in Feb 2016 over corruption investigations.

Actually Giuliani said he travelled to Ukraine and was NOT given dirt on the Bidens. He was given evidence of Bidens crimes in Ukraine.
He has passed that criminal evidence to DOJ who are as Barr said they are looking into it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Why A Young Former Mayor Is Surging In US Election by basilico: 12:57pm On Feb 15, 2020
panafrican:
The curse is on you , and you failed .
The devil does not determine our destiny and we will not be received by it's treacherous tactics.
Go back to hell.
You will be a nobody because you think a gay couple should not raise children according to this progressive who wants to overturn all moral ideals.

Typical leftist habit. Throw insults when they lose the gist of the argument.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:46am On Feb 15, 2020
garetz:
So we should applaud Hunter Biden's corruption because others are also doing the same thinghuh
The media especially CNN is lying in order to make Trump look bad. The debunked Biden corruption thing os a total lie.
The mainstream media has a narrative to feed the masses. One publication writes this debunked myth, then all others repeat the same so that ignorants like this Lucasbabe believes in the lie.
Like CNN were forced to settle out of court after preaching lies about thr Covington high school boy. He wanted 250m dollars but they settled out of court whixh must have been substantial amount.
Media is lying . Total fake news. And imbeciles insult you when u question their stories.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:49pm On Feb 14, 2020
The differing opinion of Barr vs Trump is choreographed. Trump leaves DoJ alone to Barr . Then Durham indicts the coup plotters
And Drumph preemptively pardons the snake Obama. The rest of the coup plotters wind up in Gitmo.
A story with a happy ending. Coup executers go to Gitmo , the master planner is pardoned and Drumph is reelected for a third term n 2028 for having saved the republic .
And Lucasbabe cries enough tears to irrigate thousands of hectares of soy beans to sell to Chinese who commit to buy
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:01pm On Feb 13, 2020
budaatum:
Let's be honest. Trump impeached Biden, lol!
The whole impeachment saga was centred on whether Trump requested Ukraine to investigate Biden.
Biden was surely corrupt in that whole saga. The media sought to portray Trump in a bad light but it turns out that Hunter Biden was being paid 83k dollars a month while the median wage is around 60k dollars annually.

Talk about strategy. I sure could teach them dems something
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:53am On Feb 13, 2020
garetz:
You're the one sounding like a loser here you know undecided
When liberals cant win an argument they resort to ad hominem attacks. Typical brainwashed leftist Alinsky rule rule book.

As a matter of fact liberals think they are superior in terms of intellect. They have been brought up to believe that those who hold a different opinion are intellectually inferior to their views.
They will insult you if you question the the idea that you can say abort a baby after birth. Governor Notharm of Virginia is in favor of passing a law that a doctor consults with the mother after a born alive aborted baby on whether the child lives or dies.
Foreign AffairsRe: Why A Young Former Mayor Is Surging In US Election by basilico: 7:46am On Feb 13, 2020
As a parent how do you give a butt*** name to your kid..
In preparation.
Note this guy is married to a man. Dont know who is the he she in that relationship.
Liberals trying to mainstream homosexuality and even elect one as the president.
Gaslighting.
Foreign AffairsRe: BREAKING: Sudan Hands Over Former President "Bashir" To ICC by basilico: 7:42am On Feb 13, 2020
Slam dunk case. The actual killers were a militia named supporter of APC or something like that.
Armed by the govt under Bashir.
Death toll said to be over 200k and 2m displaced.
Bashir will never go to a hotel and drink a soda like I will always do.
Case closed.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:23pm On Feb 11, 2020
raumdeuter:
Below is a quote from Yahoo

“Every day, I worry about Bernie Sanders being the nominee,” Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo told Yahoo Finance recently. “I don’t think he can beat President Trump. Socialism isn’t the answer. The American people, I think, will reject that in November.
The stable genious at work. Trump would prefer personal dislike, but policy economic approval. As long as his policy's have favoured stock investments, 401ks, job creation, many minorities off foodstamps, blue collar favorability, lower taxations, thebig fight will be among independents.
Trump wont care that many dont like ad long ad hr assures them that their economic well being is all he is after.
Come in the democrats promising to increase taxes so they can fund social justice warriors demands and overtax the wealthiest.
Economy stupid, a stable economy is what people will vote for Not SJW worries about who can walk into restrooms, which gender idenity can go on a wrestling match with bona fide females, how many board directors should be people of color, how many minorities should win oscars, how climate change warriors get to control whether fossil fuels should be used, how many should plastic straws be banned, and even whether a mother should wait to give birth before she decides to kill her born alive baby. All these are leftist ideals. Dems are 25% prolife .Trump will win a landslide because the dem leftists have gone too far stupidly left.

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