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Dino would have been better off in the entertainment industry.

There is no exact science in getting employed in this country. Anything can give at any time.

Bobowaja you're a great man. I have been shadowing this thread for some weeks and must confess it has been an eye opener..

I setup my payoneer account, click bank and Facebook accounts without hassle all thanks to this thread.

The digital product I am marketing earned a little profit just 2 days back, I think the product has a one week trial period, after which I can get commission when the user actually purchased the product. And with about 425 hops, my hopes are quite high more sales are on the way.

My question is about the window of refund by click bank which usually have a time frame of 60 days, does it mean I won't be able to make withdrawals till the 60 days elapsed?

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Billyonaire:
Is it not what your dream was about ? Move on to what you love, and everything will fall in place and you will find prosperity. Do not be afraid.

Nice thread. I have really had lots of fun reading through.
As a human, I have had some experiences which I would need clarity.

@Billy, back in school I normally find myself while under the stress and pressure of an impending examination reading in my sleep. I. Dont know how it happens but when this happens, I normally walk to the exam Hall and ace the papers. What sort of energy could I be tapping into unknowingly?
How can I harness such abilities to achieve greater things?

Please kindly do justice to this.

Nice thread. I have really had lots of fun reading through.
As a human, I have had some experiences which I would need clarity.

@Billy, while in school I normally find myself while under the stress and pressure of an impending examination reading in my sleep. I. Dont know how it happens but when this happens, I normally walk to the exam Hall and ace the papers. What sort of energy could I be tapping into unknowingly?
How can I harness such abilities to achieve greater things?

You just have to respect the fortitude and strength displayed by the North Koreans.

goldfish80:
I've tried answering this question but you keep repeating them over and over again.
For goodness sake, where do you think NPFL clubs sign players from? Do they import players from Mars? Is it not the same academies and youth clubs which supplies players to the various national cadet teams and European clubs that serves as conveyor belt to the NPFL clubs?

For starters, Abia warriors had an open screening before the start of this season and about 400 players from various academies spread out through the length and breath of the country showed up.
3sc did the same, players in their hundreds showed up.
Rangers couldn't even contain the crowd that showed up when they threw their camp open for screening into their feeder team.

European clubs are run by capitalists. They want to invest $1 and earn $1M. The reason these guys go for academy players from Africa, especially Nigeria is because they get away with paying these desperate youngsters stipends not salaries. These youngsters are payed between $500-800 a month. They cannot offer professional players such contracts. I know some NPFL player who came back and continued playing in the local league because they actually earn more playing at home.
If it were up to you, we shouldn't even think of having a league. We should wait for Nigerians in diaspora to produce babies who will come play for the super eagles because there is a dearth of talents who could be nurtured at home. That's a very shallow blue print to follow.
Even the much celebrated Etebor, was absued on this thread when Siasia played him ahead of some established stars against Egypt. Anyone in doubt should check the first 5 pages of this thread and see for themselves. Today the same rejected Etebo has become one of our better players in the Super Eagles. If Siasia didn't give him that chance, Rohr would roll into town and watch for Etebor to give him a good first impression. Hmm

Did Warri Wolves win the champions league? How mange Etebo could emerge from such a team that went on relegation?

This got me cracking

Icon4s:
What about one or two promising talents in Europe?

And what if the coaching crew feels no promising talents at home merits a call up?

If he really thinks so. Then someone is not doing his job. Stephen Odeh is on 10 our of 10. If he continues this way he will break Ahmed Musa's record by half way mark.

Icon4s:
You see, you are quoting me out of context.
He already did well in the NPFL by breaking the league record, so why would such a player not be invited to the U20 team even if he remained in the local league.

My point is Musa featuring in the WYC gave him the full break-in into the Super Eagles.

And in the absence of an U20 or U23 team like we have non currently, don't you think friendlies like this should be used to give a break to one or two promising talents at home? Ponder on this.

Icon4s:
Musa did not play at the AYC in January of 2011. He featured at the WYC in June /July of 2011 after having a good season first season at Venlo.

We only had 7 foreign based players in that team to the U20 world cup. The rest were homebased and unattached. Saying Musa made that team because he was foreign based is not true.

Icon4s:
Ahmed Musa had already jetted out to VV Venlo before even being invited to the Flying Eagles in 2011. He left Pillars in 2010 after breaking the Nigerian league record. He had to prove himself in a higher league first and at an age grade competition before he was integrated into the Super Eagles. He also played for the U23 while playing for the U20.

Ahmed Musa while at Kano pillars was already capped at national team level when he broke the league goals record in 2010. He was introduced to the nation team by Lars LagerbackLagerback .
It's not correct to say he got invited to play for the U20s and U23's because he proved himself at Venlo when he was already the talk of the country and was capped back in 2010.

To freshen your mind, Musa's transfer was held up and he only started to play for Venlo in October 2010. The African U20 championship is normally played in January. So it was not about proving anything in a stronger league like you put it.

tbaba1234:
No doubt about it, The fact that we have failed to qualify for AFCON is a good indication of the state of our football. Every big team goes through its highs and lows. Nigeria is currently on a low and could potentially be revived by a world cup qualification.

The dutch and belgian leagues are average (by European standards) at the moment and the evidence is their performance in Europe. Nonetheless, these leagues are renowned for churning out young talents. IS THE NIGERIAN LEAGUE RENOWNED FOR CHURNING OUT YOUNG TALENTS? There are far more failures than successes. Our league teams do not even have academies for churning out these young talents. Did you not watch Manu Garba's under 17 team running rings round the biggest teams in our league?

Many top scorers in the Nigerian league have failed to shine when the standard was raised a little bit. It is based on this history that I can not rate a player based on the performance in the Nigerian league. If they perform at a higher level then a proper assessment can be made. Where are Orok Akarandut, Jude Aneke, Sibi Gwar, Victor Namo, Mfon Udoh, Obaje etc?? Apart from Ahmed Musa, most top scorers in the league have failed to show their ability at a higher level.

I have never said there are no talents in the Nigerian league. I have said, let these talents perform at a bigger stage. I can not make a judgement on a player based on the performance on the Nigerian league because the standard is so low.

I think people should stop using that Manu U17 team beating NPFL sides as a justification to rubbish npfl. For goodness sake that was a pre season friendly. Even top European sides get smashed in pre seaon friendlies. In the Manu U17 abi U20 case, Manu have had his team in concentration camp for months while the NPFL sides were just getting started and using the friendlies to try out new players they wish to sign for the new season.

You should ask yourself why haven't those academies won the Nigerian FA cup which is an open tournament for every football club and academy registered in the country? When was the last time an amateur side or academy played up to the semi finals of the FA cup? I think the last it happened was in the 90s with a team called Arugo.
How many NPFL titles have Manu won?
Please give me break.

Some pages back I read some people saying scoring in the league is very easy with bad defenders. I asked myself, is it the same Nigerian league I know?
The same league it took almost forever for someone to break Ishaya Jatus record of 20 goals. As a matter of fact, the 20 goal mark have been crossed not more than 2wice if I recall correctly. But just to make an arguement we are being made to believe scoring in the NPFL is very easy.

Do you know why only Musa have managed to break even out of the lot you listed? I will tell you.
Back in 2010 when Musa broke out of the scene. Musa was the busiest Nigerian footballer. He played in almost all the national teams bar U17. He played for the U20s, U23's and super eagles simultaneously. These various exposures with the national teams exposed him to the transfer market before Venlo signed him up. This same expose you vehemently refuse to see the reasons why the Mfm striker shouldn't be invited for a friendly in London.

How come the Dutch league and Belgian leagues are renowned for producing talents but these same talents don't do well in champions league and Europa leagueEuropa league for their home nation teams?

BascoVanVeli:
Yes but we still invited NPFL players at those times. Lets not forget that there were only 8 teams in the group stage so reaching the group stage is basically like reaching quarter finals. Nigeria has never been a force in club competitions it is funny that u are all of sudden trying to use this as an excuse to put our league down.

You're on point. Even when the league had the likes of Okocha, Kanu, Yekini and so on we never did well in the champions league.

As a matter of fact, our league is in a much more better shape now than when Enyimba won it back to back.
Take for instance, there was no TV coverage as we have now. Back then, there was no way you could go away and get a draw in the league with the playing pitches nothing to write home about.
League champions back in 2004 hardly took home up to 1M. While Rangers last season went home with 40M.

People mistake Enyimba winning the champions league as being a reflection of the quality of our league back then. we really need a reality check. People fall for these fallacies when they just sit at home and make analysis especially when they want to attack the NPFL at every opportunity.

tbaba1234:
There are far more failures than successes.

Look at our performances

2017- No team in the group stages
2016- Enyimba
2015- No team in the group stages
2014- No team in the group stages
2013- No team in the group stages

In the past 5 years, we have made the group phase once... Biko, that is poor..

In the past 4 Afcons we have just managed to be in 1.
Does that mean our players are among the worst in Africa?

Since the Ajax team of 1996, Netherlands have yet to make a mark in European club football. Does that mean good players don't come out the Dutch league?

Since Monaco made it to the finals of Champions league in 2004, no French team have made it to the later stages or even past quarter finals in the champions league. Does that mean good players don't come out of ligue 1?

Since the time of Kalusha Bwaya and Stephen Keshi NO Belgian team have made it to the quarter finals of the champions league. Does that mean good players aren't coming out of the Belgian league?

If not for Juventus, Italian football have been shambles lately. Uefa have even reduced their slot for the champions league to 3 teams. Does that mean good players can't be found in Seria A?

Sir, because Nigerian club side aren't doing too well in Caf champions league. That does not mean good players can't be found in the Nigerian league.

A choice between Bisola and Debbie Rice. Marvis will choose Debbie or any other house mate for that matter every day of the week.
Those two ladies have geniue love for each other.

Amusaopeyemi:
T-boss herself said it this afternoon that she has never visited Abuja before

T-boss at the Abuja national stadium

I laugh when I read people write about TTT and act surprised over his antics.

I understand TTT is a Lebanese guy through by his parental heritage. The Lebanese blood in him is very prominent.

All over the world Lebanese are known to be very shrewd business people.

In the heat of the Lebanese civil war in the 80s, lots of their business men fled to Nigeria and established various chains of business mostly club houses,casinos, drugs, prostitution and kalo kalo. Even the baba ijebu lotto is a Lebanese establishment.
Most of them applied for Nigerian citizenship in other to domicile their business in Nigeria, some other hooked up with Nigerian women I believe TTT is a product of such relationship.

TTT just like every Lebanese is a poker player. That guy can run a poker school in Govan.
No surprises if he walks away with the money.

I've been enjoying the Mbappe discussion on this thread.

I don't think he's the finished article just yet,however he is currently the best TEENAGER in Europe at the moment.
The superlatives he have drawn with greats have been purely juxtaposed to when these great player were same age.

For the record, Mbappe at just 18yrs old have scored 2 career hattricks playing primarily as a wing forward.
He's not even a regular yet at Monaco but his talent is very obvious.

Going further, I think he has been well packaged and properly educated for stardom owing that his potential was recognised early. Coming from a sporting family of course have been helpful.

With the noise around the young Nigerian boy Omidji, I hope he gets well packaged like Mbappe.
Football is like showbiz these days. The better packaged talented player will cost more than an unwell packaged even better talented player.

BascoVanVeli:
I used one to explain the other just like they do even in primary school, i don't get what is so confusing. Btw welcome to the hotspot lol.

I think he said no African football player have transferred for 50M. Which is correct. Aubameyang and Koulibaly have not transferred for the said amount yet.
I sensed a veiled blackmail when you brought up Aubameyang and Koulibaly in the discussion.
That's just what I noticed as a bystander.

You guys are great though. Thanks for the warm welcome.

BascoVanVeli:
I don't think u even read my quotes. I was saying that playing time depends on a coach. Pep might not like Iheanacho but Jardim might. Then i used Pellegrini as an example of a coach who rates Iheanacho and would probably use him over whats his face. Then u started crying about "what if's" even though like u just admitted we are only speculating. So what was ur point the whole time? U are wasting my life with this ur arguement i am gaining nothing.

Bros I've been following your back and forth with him. You clearly brought up two separate scenarios and merged them together in the heat of the debate.

TheGoodJoe:
Martial was the most sought after teen in the World, commanded a huge fee when signed from Monaco and guess what, he sits regularly on the bench in Manchester United.

He was a super regular and Manchester Uniteds most consistent player last seaon. Mourinho didn't take to him because he wants his team to play in a certain way and Martial does not fit into his idea.
If mourinho was the manager who bought him, he would never sit him on the bench.

safarigirl:
lots of people don't follow French football.

Until he enters England, we will know. All this one you just dey shout price, if these players were African born, they wouldn't be worth half the price they tag them.

Even the Martial, dunno how great he is these days compared to what they paid for him

I'll wait

I will gladly wait as well. I expect big things from him.

safarigirl:
Rashford was in United's Academy when i didn't know him. When he broke into their first team, I knew him.

If I have to go through Google to know a £50M footballer, then someone is slacking somewhere.

Like i said sha, lemme wait for Golden Boy awards this year. No be by price tag

Mbappe is just 18. Last year he was still at the Monaco academy.
His name won't ring a bell because you don't follow French football. You will be more familiar with Rashford because Premiership is more popular in Nigeria just like few people knew Martial before Man Utd signed him.
Martial being relatively unknown did not affect his asking price by a shilling.

It doesn't reduce him if you don't know him.

safarigirl:
didn't see him in the Golden Boy nominees last year, so i assume he wasn't this awesome as at August 2016


If he was that great, he should have gotten a look-in. Will await this years list to judge his awesomeness.

If i Google Rashford, I'll probably find even more awesome stuff than i can of Mbappe

Yet he will command a transfer fee in excess of 50+M at least.
His market value would have been far far less if nobody knew him.

There's always a first time for everything anyway. There was a time you didn't know Rashford,thats for sure.

safarigirl:
since when is he the most sought after?

I'm just hearing his name for the first time and he's the most sought after?

You people on this thread can sha exaggerate sometimes

He is actually the most sort after teen in Europe at the moment.
Feel free to Google him and read up what you can find. That you don't know him does not reduce his worth.

TheGoodJoe:

Mbape will not bench any of them. Sane, Sane, Gabriel or Aguero. He will bench at City. Fact.

Mbappe is the most sort after teen in the world. He will command a transfer fee in excess the £40M Man Utd paid for Martial. No club will sit such huge investment down on the bench. Drill or no drill.