safarigirl:


A lot of them only read the Bible as far as paying tithes, Sodom and Gomorrah and "submission", everything else is up in the air.

You said something earlier about the Bible being a tool for mind control. That's just it.
Can't believe I'm agreeing with you on something after our little snafu earlier. Amazing.

Odunayaw:
That wasn't even Peter but Paul. So if I were to ridicule you by this simple ignorance. I suddenly look more knowledgeable eh?

nawa

Forget the typo and read the substance of the post. How many Heavens do you have and how did Paul get there while still alive on earth? Could there be more heavens after the first 3?

Odunayaw:
Here's my answer bro

You examine the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is those very Scriptures that testify about Me; — Jesus speaking in John 5:39

Instead of going back and forth. I love this reply of Jesus. Look, to a good degree, I know church history. How this complication of writings we now call Bible came to be during Emperor Constantine.
But many as did they during the times of Jesus where to fixed on which or what writing were "scriptures". His reply shows that it is futile study, FOR ALL SCRIPTURES point to/testify of HIM.


That said, I've read the Catholic Bible. My opinion is simple, What men call "scriptures" or not isn't my issue. For all these words are doorways to meet a PERSON!
Seeing the mind of this Person through time is Koko.

What is the essence of a large head over a large heart

Very cagey reply. You seem to know more than you want to disclose for some reasons. But it's OK.

Odunayaw:
Do you mind we move to another thread? It's not good to derail this

Quote me whenever your create a thread but in the mean time we can make due with this. Just answer my question, no matter how vague.

safarigirl:


Nothing fit shock me where some Christians dey again.

And the vim they use to attack the Catholic church sometimes, you wonder if they are aware that these are the people that basically fed you what you are regurgitating.

So, if they are as destructive and manipulative as you say they are, imagine what they are hiding from you. Does it not give you pause? Does it not cause you to reflect?

It's mind boggling the arrogance amid ignorance exhibited by these Christians. I once asked a pastor what Peter was talking about in 2 Cor 12:2. Where he said he met a man in 3rd heaven. I asked him how many heavens there was if there was a 3rd Heaven as described by Peter. The man looked lost till date he no dey near me again.

safarigirl:


The Ethiopian Bible is even different to an extent.

A lot of Christians in Nigeria have barely read the KJV, how much more the Catholic Bible? And there are still canons that remain in the Vatican, unseen by most of the world. Parts of the Bible that only the higher echelon of priests have access to.

The Vatican has the biggest library in the world. Most of these books are unsealed and totally out of sight from the rest of the world.
Most so called Christians don't even know the history of the Bible, how it was compiled, the council of Nicea. Who Emperor Constantin was, the Flavian family.
I mean those category of Christians only read the Bible and think they know it all. It's shocking at times.

Mujtahida:

It's total mindfuck. Through Adam we became sinner not because we did anything ooo. Just by being born as a human being.
Then they said christ came and died and created a new order for man but the catch here is that unlike what happened through Adam in which we all automatically become sinners, we do not automatically share this new life of Christ. No have to first believe and have faith in the finished work of Christ before we partake of this new life. Shey you see the ojoro. They do not see that just as in Adam, people are sinners when they are born, so also once a child is born, he should be sinless now that christ has paid the price. But we all know it's not so. If it is so, how would pastors chop from this whole thriving business of sin, church and Christianity?

They will come and say that the things of the spirit are not carnally discerned. Abeg out of respect for the faith of people, let me drop this topic jeje if not...

In a nutshell

Odunayaw:
No, I didn't.

A mentor usually said, "if you go into any of this things with your question, you'd surely find your answers". I think he lifted it up from the cliché "you'd get what is coming to you".
Sly mentor

The book of Enoch is considered apocryphal for a reason. I have read the works of Aquinas, the Church Father's. Heck, even Jude who made reference to Enoch didn't see the faults you're claiming about Adam.

So my friend, if you're looking for an excuse/reason, you'd surely find one

Do you find any gaps or flaws in the Bible? Do you think the Bible is 100% factual and accurate? What's your opinion about the catholic Bible having more books than the protestant Bible?
Your reply will give me a clear picture of your understanding about your religion doctrine and of course my further engagement hinge on this.

Odunayaw:
I have read The Book of Enoch 1-3
I dare you to gimme a screenshot of what you claim

You read the book of Enoch about the Annunakis and Elohims yet you can't find faults in those famous claims about Adam, Apple, serpent and eve?

Moniter0:
hilarious. Sin infiltrated the bloodline and bloodstream of man through the offense of one man bro. Even though let's assume you did not commit any sin, you are still affected because you literally carried Adam's blood, but thank God for Jesus, who did not only provide deliverance and redemption from that but also provided all-encompassing and thorough restoration and much more!

Can I send a book to you? Trust God, it will really help you!

Adam didn't really exist as the Bible made us think. Read the book of Enoch, you will find out some unconventional truths.

Sportilitica:
Mehn Cape Verde poor

That's the same team we struggled to beat with 2 freak goals and made them look like prime Barca in Lagos.

safarigirl:


Thank you

Bless your soul for leaving the argument and focusing on inanities.

Bless you too for your caustic choice of words and infantile tirades.

mostob:
Bro...e don do jare. Just ignore her next time. I think you're new on this thread?

I'm not new at all. Though I don't come often. I was here during the time Iheanacho was a hot topic here.

safarigirl:


You were talking rubbish then and you're still talking rubbish now.

Go and check the AFCON 2019 list, Kelechi was there, Kelechi was in World Cup 2018 too. So, how can you claim he was not there?

Which Awoniyi and Sadiq? Did you kill Ahmed Musa? Is he not in the same strike force? Chukwueze too is in our strike force, same as Simon and Onyekuru.

Strike force is the forward line. We have 8 forwards, only 3 of those 8 were not at the last AFCON.

Respect yourself and drop this argument, because you're still arguing in the rubbish.

I no even blame you, na me still dey answer you na wetin make.

What's your weight in gold about you replying me? Do I look like I'm in awe of your dirty replies? You think I will cower in your presence because some mofos gave you the illusion that you're the queen of Nairaland? Odiegwu

Sportilitica:

Ermm boss, you were actually the one who started the insults which you might not have perceived as such. That said can we focus on the football and leave all these jibes.

Someone called my opinion rubbish, saying I know nothing about Super Eagles and should stop making noise on this thread because I'm empty.
I ignored all that and didn't even return those rabbid words in kind, but I'm the one that who started the insults? Bro, I hope you're not a judge, otherwise you will send many innocent people to jail.

safarigirl:


You have been courteous in what manner?

You threw a jab at me about chest beating, then went on to suggest that I was expecting miracles and threw in that silly Mummy GO talk, is that you being courteous? Or do you not understand what being courteous is?

Once again, the least you can do with your time is use Google before coming here to drop your negative PR, so, you don't get busted.

As much as we appreciate realities on this thread, your bad vibes and pessimism is coated in ignorance.

Of course you have no idea what a courtious exchange means. I pardon your ignorance.
I deliberately ignored your comment where you said I was talking rubbish after pointing out that our strike force are making their AFCON debuts. Please, which AFCON did Kelechi, Umar, Awoniyi participate in? Aren't they your strikers?
I have all the time in the world for you this night. Let's play.

Omanambala:


Cc.bazooka1

This is really sad to know. But , hasn't Chinua Achebe being immortalized ? Or , are you suggesting government rebuilt his house and compound ? Would not that be the job of the family ?

There's nothing wrong with his house. It's a modest duplex which is alright. It's not badly beat up at all. I'm just saying passing through his house, you have to be told that was the home and burial site of Achebe.
There's no attraction or monument to tell that's his house. The house is not even on Google map.
Some local women are selling bread right in front of his gate.

safarigirl:


Russia 2018 is not the AFCON.

Nigeria has had poor preparations at multiple AFCONS, but have finished 1st-3rd in 15 out of 18 AFCONs that is a tournament team.

And since you did not see the modification, let me repeat it for you

100% of Nigeria's strike force is not coming for their first AFCON like you erroneously claimed. Kelechi, Moses Simon, Onyekuru, Chukwueze and Musa were all in the AFCON 2019 team. That is 5 forwards out of 8. So, what kind of uninformed claim did you make?


That you do not even know that 5 of our 8 forwards were in AFCON 2019 is enough to prove that you are making noise on this thread and know nothing about AFCON or the Super Eagles.

Mummy GO is thriving because of people like you. Empty noisemakers

I have been courteous enough with my replies to you. If if you can't return the favor, trust me, I can roll my sleeves and dance in the mud with you all night long. It's not a threat.

safarigirl:


You must not know what a tournament team means, and this is why you should refrain from talking about things you have little knowledge of.

A tournament team is a team that comes through in a tournament, no matter how poor they may be before the tournament.

So, if you want to use some game against Cape Verde that was not played in a tournament, then, that is your first mistake.


Go and Google what a 'tournament team' means and why Nigeria is referred to as such.

The last time Nigeria went to a tournament on the back of a streak of poor results was Russia 2018. How good were they at the tournament proper? Tournament team my #*&.
Mind you, the core of this team are the same set that went 2020 calendar year without a single victory. Then wobbled their way through Car, Liberia and Cape Verde. Somehow you're expecting miracles.
No wonder hacks like mommy GO is making waves in Nigeria.

Sportilitica:

I feel BF made them look dangerous

Hold on, you think Cameroon are facing Brazil, France or Spain? They are playing Tunisia, Zambia, Comoros, Nigeria, Ghana, Zimbabwe, Algeria,Ethiopia,Lesotho.Eswantini.
The level you saw them today is good enough to beat any of these teams in this championship. With home support being an X factor.

safarigirl:


The good thing about Nigeria is that Nigeria is also a tournament team.

We've played 18 AFCON games, and have finished on the podium in 15 of the 18. So, anyhow leg wan set, we go jump am.

You never see our team, you dey talk who you wan face who you no wan face. Some Nigerian fans ehn

The last time I saw Nigeria play was against Cape Verde. If you're feeling bullish after watching the game then I will say you're just a deluded Super Eagles fan.
Worse still, we are missing key players with 100% of your strike force making their AFCON debuts.
You're done chest beating?

I wouldn't want to face this Camerounian team. Their athletism is at another level. They look like a tournament team.

Mujtahida:

Too bad. Even Shakespeare who was born more than five hundred years ago, his birthplace at Stratsford upon Avon is still recognizable as a national monument

It's a shame.

Omanambala:


Cc.ChrisKels

Chinua Achebe is also from Nri-Awka areas.

Ikenga is best described as a personal deity for titled and influencial of the society, in precolonial northern Igbo land. Its not a community deity with a shrine where everybody worship. In fact , Ikenga is a feature of affluence.


This Ikenga effigy

Achebe is from Ogidi. His house is very close to Oye Olisa at the junction. It's a pity the state government have not done anything to immortalize him. You can pass his house and you won't know. No landmark, not even a statue at his junction, nothing.

komekn:


I would not call Maduka Okoye bad, he plays in the Eredivisie he is quite clearly the number one goalkeeper for his club.

Uzoho made a School boy error hopefully it is a one off.

It's not a one off. Recall how Harry Kane shot went through him.

Icon4s:


That goal Maduka conceded against Cape Verde away really exposed his Lack of enough technical knowledge of goalkeeping. Only cadet team goalkeepers concede such goals.

Role of the goalkeeper is always very important for a tournament like the AFCON.

A goalie is always a key figure in the defense. If any of our knockout games goes into penalty shootouts can we be confident enough with Maduka as a penalty stopper?

I share the same sentiment with you 100%. It's a real shame how mal naurished our keeping options have been since 2017. Rohr sent a trainer to work with Uzoho before the world cup. One would have thought he should have devoted more reasourses in scouting and training more keepers before now.
Truth is that our midfield will is not built for Spain-like total domination, so you need a real keeper who will dominate his box and keep you in games especially those tense moments.
Non of our keepers are capable of this.

JohnBullMySon:
This is National team

You think you're going anywhere without a good goalkeeper in a team that lacks proper ballers in midfield who will dominate opponents with ball possession like 80/20?

safarigirl:


You people always want to remind somebody of whatever when jungle mature.

Which maturity wey we never see before?

Carry yourself to NFF and donate yourself and your money for scouting if you think it is so straightforward

This thread has been in existence for over 5 years, you think you have said anything new and innovative?

Better read up, we don pass this one wey you dey complain about.

I have always been a part of this thread before Russia 2018. You can check my post history to find out.
Pinick sent a budget of 15B Buhari naira to the sports ministry for approval, for AFCON and world cup qualifiers. So we can't plead penury to scout real players.
Rohr waffling around with poor goalkeepers ultimately cost him his job. Had he done his due deligence and did proper scouting, not judging players solely based on public data, he would have figured this position out.

safarigirl:


You must think the national team works like clubs do

Throw open position and do scouting, on whose dime and with whose time?

Please, stop bringing such ridiculous suggestions like this. Goalkeeper that is so great, they are playing in a third division club in Ikotun? Abeg abeg abeg.

The lack of proper scouting have kept us where we are. Keep asking at whose dime and time. I will surely remind you of this comment when jungle mature.

safarigirl:


Somebody that won best player in his club last season knows he's not good enough?

Nah, you're just out here hating for no reason.

Akpeyi at a point won the best player in his club. He is equally highly rate in South Africa. How good do you think he is as a goalkeeper?

JohnBullMySon:
Which of the goals conceded against Sierra Leone was due to sloppiness? Ter Stegen conceded eight against Bayern, does it make him a poor keeper?

You should know that good keepers are not judged by conceded goals but by quality of saves. He made good saves against Tunisia, against Cape Verde and against CAR. He might not be an outstanding keeper yet, but here we judge him too brutally and yet make excuses for Uzoho. Pound for pound he is clearly better than Uzoho.

His slow time reactions and poor reflexes is very unusual for a young goalkeeper. He is slow off his line, I don't know if he can improve with coaching but he keeps like an elderly goalkeeper which is unusual for someone his age.
Watch Ramsdale and see what a talented U23 goalkeeper looks like.

andrewbaba44:

Lol

Why you go say make Maduka reject the move

Maduka himself knows he's not good enough. He looks like an honest boy.