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Comradecharly: Pls hav any IT person recv sms?
Indicate pls, if nt we ar still waiting on d Lord.
One love.

IT is yet to be called

plaetton: "Love thy neighbor, and do unto others as you have them do unto you"
Bingo!
Someone actually did try to point the way of true love.

You cannot love god if you do not have real unconditional love for your fellow man, your fellow living creatures, the earth and everything in it which god supposedly created.

If you hate Hausas, Igbos, Yorubas,etc, then you cannot love god.

If you hate any race of humans, then you cannot love god.

If you hate snakes, cockroaches, spiders or any living creature, then you cannot love god.

If hate our mother Earth, if you consider her unclean, if you anxiously await her destruction because some wacko has told that it will come to pass, then surely, you cannot love god.


Every one professes unflinching love for god because it seems a lot easier than making even the smallest attempt to love our fellow humans and neighbors.
Loving god is easy. All you have to is repeat it to yourself a few times, and viola! You love god.

Loving our neighbors, on the other hand, is difficult and challenging, and entails great sacrifices.
In loving our neighbor, we have to overcome so much of our prejudices, insecurities, petty jealousies, etc. And of course, unlike god, we don't expect our petty selfish desires to be met by our neighbors.

So, the next time someone says" I love god", you know you are looking at a liar, a hypocrite and a sycophant.

LWTMB at the bolded... plaeton u bad ooooo

FOLYKAZE: A typical question I love to ask.....who teach a just baby how to suck, digest milk, urinate, poo, cry and if it a boy, try roll your hand on his boyhood, it got erect. How does this happen when a baby is not self-conscious?

It dynamical natural automation which we cant and dont control. The control will have is illusion set by other side of the brain.

classic!!! i started out by hanging around kids and observing there behaviours (kids btw d age of 1-5)

FOLYKAZE: Lol. If that be the case, our been here got no meaning.... Everything is vanity and chasing of wind.

I dont believe in God but I still find this your concept reasonable. God to me is the totality of all.

the word god/God doesnt expalin anything that is why people fight for ownership of it.. the word is nothing more than a word and no matter hw hard we try to understand we can never get it... its like trying to explain what NOW is, NOW cannot be grasped no matter hw hard we try (it can only be realized thats is why people attribute omniscience with god)

FOLYKAZE: The truth is that im conscious but need to understand self-consciousness.... You get me right?

my brother the first step is to know that there is really nothing to understand (when we try to understand we are simply looking for reasons and our mind is so powerful that it will give us all the reasons we need),just observe (for example here on nairaland, instead of posting and reacting to post, just observe what is being posted without judging the content of the post, u will notice that a new level realization open itself up)... we avoid the pit of knowledge by just observing (jesus said that we should be awake like the servant waiting for the arrival of the master)

FOLYKAZE: this is what im trying to explain. Some pick on the surface of Ifa teaching.....thinking predestination is supernatural folklore.

Sorry if my question is getting too much...... There is this my friend I told im atheist. She laughed at me and said everything im doing now, it is planned in Ajule Orun and im just manifesting on script. She said i was an atheist in Ajule Orun before been born and that is why it manifest in me.

What exactly does she mean?

truth be told she means nothing, she is only revealing to you what she knows and her believe (which is neither right nor wrong), the only sad thing is that we become so attached to wat we think we know that it took us over and bcome our identity

FOLYKAZE: 1000 likes. This is a course on it own.

Pardon my foolishness here pls. Here is my outline on the way I understand the above

- darkness is the stream of experience

- light is the observation of darkness.....it end of dark tunnel

- everything is nothing.....both darkness and light is the reality of each other. Nothing comes out of this.

Got some sense here?

thank u for this "both darkness and light is the reality of each other" none is superior to the other..... wish am good wit words like u

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FOLYKAZE: Chai.....let me check if im having any shot



Oh my.....LIFE ITSELF IS NOTHING.

If the body was programmed to take care of itself......isn't this what we call predestination?

Predestination to me is experimentation of consciousness within existence. What ya think about this view?




Nothing can be proven, everything is "speculation" when it comes down to it. Facts are just observations based on our experiences. “No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong.” - Albert Einstein

thanks to einsteing for bailing me out


But bro....let me learn from ya. Dont want this nullifing things.[/quote]the truth is i have nothing to tell that u dont already know....if anything i will just create a ground for arguments

Are we one infinite mind?[/quote]some we say we are and some will say we are not..well i know we are beyound (saying we are finite means we have limitations and saying we are infinite bring about question of infinite regression) the same way when people talk about God existence i simply tell them god is beyound existence, why? because existence is bound by the space time continum whether here in our galaxy or other galaxies.. when am asked what god is then, i simply tell them God is the same way humans are, no amount of words can explain it cos it is us that create the words we speak not the other way round



Whats your observation on Ori and Ipin?[/quote]both of them explain the same thing... ori is the cause while ipin is the effect

FOLYKAZE: Erm sir...

Lets be sincere, im lost in you. Can you pls break things down. Pls

i wish i could but unfortunately am good with writing (i dont rili have a good english background, i started learning when i entered the university back then) but i will try my best to bring a pointer (but pls pardon my errors)

[quote author=.]Nurture the darkness of your soul
When you understand all things
can you step back from your own understanding?[/quote]everybody wants to be the light, they ask for enlightenment, they all want to illuminate accross the world, they all forbade darkenss (they see darkness as evil ) but what they are oblivious of is that darkness is the creator of light, the source of every illumination is darkness.. thats why Lao Ztu said "freed from desire and u can see the hidden mystery, with desire u can only see what is visibly real" desire is light and its only those that nurture the darkness of their soul that can see beyound darkness (there is nothing beyound light except light)

when people try to deny the darkness of there soul they talk about control of thought, emotions and the like... a true seeker embrace darkness..

[quote author=.]When you understand all things
can you step back from your own understanding?[/quote]when u nurture the darkness of ur soul and see the outward projection of light.. when u move within the light can u return back to source at will?? (after acquiring knowledge can u drop it all and marvel at the foolishness of it all...this is why ifa mythology said life is vanity, that those that look for life didn't find it and those that found didnt know they have....why because its never lost in the first place)
the secret of death is to die before we die and when we die we realize that there is no death



the truth is even i knw that i have not said anything ***and that is what am trying to point towards***

FOLYKAZE: Alright, let me simply ask......can we control our thought, choice and mental activities or it other way round?

trying to control anything atall is a futile exercise as i av found out, the only thing we do in the process is create more suffering (all it takes for us is to look around for trillions of example)... the body is programmed to take kia of itself without interference, any attempt to do otherwise bring conflict and conflict bring suffering... every suffering that we see in all facet of live is as a result of interference (the wars and hungers included)... wars are result of quest for control/power, control is a result of greed, greed is a result of fear while fear is an offspring of competition

FOLYKAZE: are you specifically saying we are one infinite mind?

frankly speaking bros we can call our mind anything and we will find prove for it

FOLYKAZE: Im sorry pls....are you a nihilist?

am just an observer

FOLYKAZE: Our ignorance of both sets of facts gives rise to moral illusions. The choice we made and every decision is a configuration within the neurons....the feelings that we are free and ego.....everything is illusion.

the question is what is illusion?? below are some verses of Lao Ztu that i tend to ponder on a lot

The Master leads by
emptying people's minds,
filling their bellies,
weakening their ambitions,
and making them become strong.
Preferring simplicity and freedom from desires,
avoiding the pitfalls of knowledge and wrong action.

Nurture the darkness of your soul
When you understand all things
can you step back from your own understanding?

Renounce knowledge and your problems will end.
What is the difference between yes and no?
What is the difference between good and evil?
Must you fear what others fear?

FOLYKAZE: The questions I will like to ask are:

- what are your thought on freewill?

i dont believe there is a substantial definition for the word freewill, infact i believe freewill explain nothing at all.. i dont get attached

FOLYKAZE: - Are we human free or just a slave/puppet?

no one is free and no one is a puppet, the answer lies beyound freedom and bondage

FOLYKAZE: - What are your views on predestination (cosmological determinism)?

its a word created out of nothing so i dont get attached to it... infact i have come to realize that all words are just pointer not a destination (every words used in the spiritual/natural explanation are just a means to an end not an end in itself)

FOLYKAZE: Hey man.... This thread was opened specifically for you....https://www.nairaland.com/1475169/madness-doing-morally-free-mental

and why did u think the thread is for me bros?? am willing to listen and learn

jayriginal: The best kind of search comes from within. I didnt have to dabble in this and that to arrive where I am. Practically all the reading I have done was done after I had finished my introspection. I read to learn alternatives to the doctrines I was brought up with and because of the mindset I had and still have, I read and question. Its the reason I usually decline to advance any position even if scientific. I digress. . .

I stand by what I wrote to Uyi. Its not necessary to try out everything on the menu and even if you should do so, at least complete your journey first.

am not saying what u said was wrong (who am i to even say something like that), i was only bringing in another perspective (frankly speaking i dont subscribe to the right/wrong idea..to me nothing is wrong and nothing right, everything is just as it is).. i was only saying that a seeking mind should not stop his wandering mind because it is in wandering that we become whole..

InesQor: @okeyxyz:


Salvation of the ego: does this mean preservation or protection of the ego? Can you expatiate on this please?

most times i marveled at how those ancient masters were able to conceal so much in there little words, sometimes saying things without actually saying anything in an attempt to brng us to reality...

ego cannot be destroyed thats why jesus said salvation of the ego which also means surrendering to the ego in a way..it is in surrender that we conquer. ego is an intrinsic part of human and denying it is like denying the body and no one become enlightened denying the body (the body is a with a purpose and that purpose must be utilized)....

Jesus=Salvation
Muhammed =Surrender
Buddha = Enlightement the end of suffering
Lao Tzu = Desire is bondage

InesQor: Based on classifications in the OP and my daily experiences I think I'm still in the second level of sleep. I have about no care for objects and trivial issues of life, and I thrive on art, science and ideas. But sometimes this gets the better of me in my walk of Love, as I can tend to be harsh towards those who just can't seem to see life beyond objects.

the truth is there is no level of sleep (Buddha only use those analogy to see how seekers will react and behave, he used it to create an illusion that seekers need to be freed from).. Buddha expect a seeker must be able to look beyound those levels and realize that its an attempt to create more illusion

InesQor: Nice one

@jayriginal & Uyi Iredia
Sometimes I say I toyed with atheism briefly but sometimes I wonder if that's really true because in retrospect it seems what really happened was that my level of doubt got intensely strong. I am recently convinced that the farthest extents I've ever been are Christian (new creation) fundie to simply Theist to Agnostic. I'm currently somewhere between the first 2 but much closer to Theist, almost overlapping it I'd say.

This is one question I ponder on, that makes me accept such classifications as Dawkin's scale: When exactly do you say someone "becomes" Atheist? What if his/her doubt only became so strong, stronger than was ever experienced?

true journey to enlightenment actually start when suddenly found out that we dont belongs to any group of religion while still not denying them.
i have almost toyed with all religions that i can get my hands on, i have read tons of books but i have recently found out is that there is rili no answer anywhere cos there is actually no answer. all the books i have read are almost saying the same thing (almost all religious books are saying the same thing in different ways)... i have realised that i just need to do is just to observe while doing nothing

jayriginal: Err, Uyi, you sound less like someone seeking than someone confused (no offence intended).

Point of order, if someone sticks to his guns it doesnt mean the person is close minded. A person is close minded if he sticks to his position even when he has been shown the weakness of that position. Particularly so, if he rejects a contrary position outright without due consideration.

I see no reason why you should jump from islam to paganism to flower worship etc. If you are looking for God, look within.

Your confusion (as I call it) has led to a really wild fluctuation and its hard to take you very seriously. One minute you are insulting people over evolution, the next you are accepting it. One minute you are a christian, then you are a deist then an atheist. Its dizzying. I hope next you are not going to do another "I have renounced atheism thread".

By your arguments before now and your declaring yourself atheist, I should be correct when I say that you currently believe there is no God. Im sure this is not true though (even if you say it is). Anyway moving on . . .

Seeking doesnt necessarily mean trying everything on the menu. Doing that can cause a lot of sh1t.

Again, none of this is meant to insult and I hope you dont take it that way.

in the path of seeking there is no confusion, everything that a seeker follow is as it should be.a seeker should not be afraid to satisfy his curiosity, infact he has to be open-minded to all cos in the end nothing matter at all..
seeking means trying it all (in whatever way ur mind pointed u too..one thing i have come to know is that a true seeker can never get lost) and we all take different path, different path that might have been condition by how we were born, the situations our mothers were during pregnancies (some were happy throughout the 9 months, some were happy for some months and some were sad all through)... a seeker need to get to a point where he realizes there is really no point to be made and he can only know this after trying to make all the points

jayriginal: Err, Uyi, you sound less like someone seeking than someone confused (no offence intended).

Point of order, if someone sticks to his guns it doesnt mean the person is close minded. A person is close minded if he sticks to his position even when he has been shown the weakness of that position. Particularly so, if he rejects a contrary position outright without due consideration.

I see no reason why you should jump from islam to paganism to flower worship etc. If you are looking for God, look within.

Your confusion (as I call it) has led to a really wild fluctuation and its hard to take you very seriously. One minute you are insulting people over evolution, the next you are accepting it. One minute you are a christian, then you are a deist then an atheist. Its dizzying. I hope next you are not going to do another "I have renounced atheism thread".

By your arguments before now and your declaring yourself atheist, I should be correct when I say that you currently believe there is no God. Im sure this is not true though (even if you say it is). Anyway moving on . . .

Seeking doesnt necessarily mean trying everything on the menu. Doing that can cause a lot of sh1t.

Again, none of this is meant to insult and I hope you dont take it that way.

in the path of seeking there is no confusion, everything that a seeker follow is as it should be.a seeker should not be afraid to satisfy his curiosity, infact he has to be open-minded to all cos in the end nothing matter at all..
seeking means trying it all (in whatever way ur mind pointed u too..one thing i have come to know is that a true seeker can never get lost) and we all take different path, different path that might have been condition by how we were born, the situations our mothers were during pregnancies (some were happy throughout the 9 months, some were happy for some months and some were sad all through)... a seeker need to get to a point where he realizes there is really no point to be made and he can only know this after trying to make all the points

[quote author=Proudly_Naija]if dis is d salary scale on d apl, weda basic or total,i wil nt border mysef 2 go 4 documentation 2morro as dis is almost d cost of my flight 2 abj 2moro. And dis is same as salary of primary sch teachers wit NCE or its equivalent certs. in my state.[/quote]if u dont u myt regret it later...the only reason why u get this job on merit is because the salary is like this...the DG hold on the restructuring of the salary because of u guys (if the salary restructuring wasnt suspended am damn sure u wnt get the job as the lobbying would av been too much)...so relax and be hapi first

bigbroda: I applied 4 Installation and Maintenance, did d test and interview but yet to get an invite 4 documentation/APL. I guess d category I applied 4 hasn't been contacted sha! Just like 2 know when they'll likely contact us 4 documentation/APL. Anyone with useful info. on dis?

Of great importance is how d salary structure looks like, does any one av an idea? Guyz, visiting the commission 2mrw/friday should try & make these findings 4 us. We can't also wait to know d content of your letters especially info concerning salary, level, resumption date, locations, outstanding pay(if applicable especially on salary), relocation assistance especially for those dat'll be working in Abuja, etc.

Congratz 2 d guyz dat got d SMS, I wish you all journey mercies and a nice time in Abuja. 2 others expecting invites 4 various stages, I wish you all d best. Ma advice, put all your faith and hope in God, He'll see u through. Believe me, nothing happens without His consent. U won't get the job if only it's not the best for you cos He has a great plan for u especially if U believe in Him, worship Him and obey His commandments.

One luv Guyz!

u are not alone..i applied for the same position...the salary structure is not so great for now (they are still using ministry salary structure) but this will be changed once the recruitment is completed, i guess the salary restructuring was not effected yet to make it unattractive to those in power else the process will be thwarted and merit will not be given chance to survive as there will be too much lobbying

Ejiuka: Congrats to those who got message for documentations,i wish you all a safe trip to Abuja.May God continue to be with you all in Jesus name amen.

alryt bro

Comradecharly: Pls, any IT person received sms?
Indicate for clearification...

am IT too and i have not received any sms but be ready for ur sms as am xpecting mine also

I don't wanna burst anyones bubble but if u are good with reading between the lines then u already no the answer.... Am nt givin out any reliable infooooo

pinetulips: Finally the long wait has produce good results oh, my appointment letter is out. i just receive nimc sms ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh oya limpopo, abuja here i come

for wat role

meshpips: Re-assess. Bad trade.
See chart below.

hw are u able to enter to d pip...u are sure a thief bro...damn

meshpips: Re-assess. Bad trade.
See chart below.

u get the flow..dts a stopping volume on 5min bar..it suck in trader most of the time but it fails also sometimes....good entry bro

[quote author=Mr_Nice_Guy]i just broke even ASAP.[/quote]u took a trade from classical bottom(sometimes called round bottom) so if i were u i wont rush to put stoploss at breakeven but rather put about 10pips below the recent lowest low and use gann fan to measure(dts if u are used to gann), the position the price is currently would still have to stick to for sometimes before any kaboom or kapuch....

enjoy d trade bro

natruetalk: Thank you for your comet but price still above some important MA which indicate we are still uptrend, though down move should not be underrated as well expecially the bad data that come out of pound at 9.30 it 50/50 for today trade.

am still eyeing the buying... spoted some buying opportunity for some pips

ok bro goodluck

natruetalk: eyeing to buy gbp/usd soon

what do you think?

i would say u shd relax before buying cos there is a natural downward symmetry that myt explode if everytin is ryt plus the current point is the 61.8fib of the current down move from 1.6257 to 1.61609, plus price have drifted too far from some important moving averages and there are also wide gap between moving averages of closer numbers unless u just wanna scalp 2 to 5pips

benpuzzy: Hope i am not in this journey alone? Though i missed alot of opportunity this week cos of my Laptop that kept hanging my Platform all the same, i thank Baba God for everything cos "every disappoinment is a blessing to them that believe" happy pipping.

incorporate fib into ur system and u could spot reversal early or atleast know when to do trade mgt.....that a 61.8fib am seeing on ur uadusd so if i were u i will lock my trade and take inverse trade to keep the trade going......

sorry bro for making unrequested comments and suggestion...

happy pippin

beejaay: The UN's last report in 2007 suggested the Earth would warm between 2C and 4.3C on pre-industrial levels by 2100. This report updates that. Even with drastic cuts to greenhouse gas emissions, it says temperatures will still almost certainly rise 1.5C. More likely, it says, we will see a rise of at least 2C, possibly as much as 4C. The report says sea levels are rising faster than they previously thought, and by 2100 the oceans will be between 26cm and 97cm higher. That's bad news for millions of people living in low lying areas, which are fast becoming prone to flooding. | Continue reading Tarek Bazely's blog post here
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/europe/un-climate-report-draws-grim-picture

i will sure be dead by this time so no biggie

The UN's last report in 2007 suggested the Earth would warm between 2C and 4.3C on pre-industrial levels by 2100. This report updates that. Even with drastic cuts to greenhouse gas emissions, it says temperatures will still almost certainly rise 1.5C. More likely, it says, we will see a rise of at least 2C, possibly as much as 4C. The report says sea levels are rising faster than they previously thought, and by 2100 the oceans will be between 26cm and 97cm higher. That's bad news for millions of people living in low lying areas, which are fast becoming prone to flooding. | Continue reading Tarek Bazely's blog post here
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/europe/un-climate-report-draws-grim-picture