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Promhize: Dude, if you want to go into investment go and read books on investment, use google, their are a lot of materials available.

read Benjamin Graham's investment anlysis and intelligent investor, don't let someone teach you nonsense. Benjamin Graham was Warren Buffet's teacher so go read his books.

Don't let someone here tell you nonsense because he lost money, there's no sure/certain profitable investments you can only learn, make calculated risks and reduce your chances of loosing money.

Promhize: I can assure you that guy will lead you nowhere, I told you today, he did not even learn one of the most basic things in investing "when a share is at its lowest it can only go up". This guy invests with his heart, emotions not everyone can be an investor, Warren buffet did make his billions in the nonsense this guy is talking about.

Investing is not about knowing charts and tables, if so, economists would be the richest people on earth. Great economists have lost millions of dollars in US not just theirs but even other peoples money.

erijeniwt: This thread is becoming something else, pls if you are not sure of something don't post it here and confuse us more

Talk Is Cheap: Guy,why r u pple behaving like dis? Am sure u ve bn posted now cos u were in d same boat as all of us. Why did u modify dis ur post. What u wrote b4 was totally diff from what is here now. U modified it so dat pple will nt go to abuja n get dier posting letters too. God is watching all of u. First of all,some of u went behind us after dey said we sould all go home to write their names dat dey want to work in abuja. They started calling dose pple. Now,d news is dat if u go to HQ n request for ur posting letter dey will give u. Olalekan was dere ysday n gave us d info,bt u typed something about dat only for u to modify d post so pple won't go dere. I can't believe dese r d set of pple I will be working with. This is unbelievable!!!!

Ifatu: guy I a number has called me 2x now but I can't here a voice may it be NIMC dat is using these number 08050020555

usisky: [size=13pt]
Peace Sir.

If this were the wisdom/logic, one might then ask why God did not appoint illiterate prophets to convey His earlier scriptures
so that the same rule will apply?

You see, if you follow the teachings of scholars, you'll end up a sheep unable to think for himself. Like i said to Al-Baqir, the scholars
invented this idea to make it seem the prophet couldn't possibly have invented the quran when people started questioning the
veracity of the quran years after the death of the prophet.

The word UMMY, which they incorrectly translate as unlettered in the quran simply means a gentile(one who neither followed the
Torah or Gospel). Take a look at the following difference between YUSUF ALI translation and that of PICKHTALL of verse 3:75.

[3:75]........That is because they say: We have no duty to the Gentiles(ummyyeena). They speak a lie concerning Allah
knowingly.[Pickhtall]

[3:75].........they say, "there is no call on us [to keep faith] with these ignorant [Pagans](ummyyeena)." but they tell a lie against Allah, and [well] they know it.

Can you spot the difference? Pickhtall translates the verse correctly on this occasion because it wouldn't make any sense translating it
as unlettered/illiterate. while in other instances, pickhtall translates same word as illiterate. why? As for yusuf ali, his translation exposes
a clear distortion if we contrast it with his other translations of same word.
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RoyPCain: @usermane and those responding to him, in support or otherwise; "Frowning and turning away" his face from a blind man who couldn't see it is not offensive to the blind man. After all, he couldn't see the 'speech'. If he [AS] had verbalized it, that will be another matter. A deaf man who you speak with anger to with a "grin" on your face may just laugh with you since he can only read your voice but can't hear you. it is the same blind man [RA] the prophet [SA] says by his interaction my Lord remembers me [Although he is the one revelation is coming to day and night, the one Allah mentions his excellent quality to the angels so much so the angel of the mountain commends his not allowing him to destroy Taif, the same prophet [SA] who appointed the blind companion [RA] a governor of a major city]. I remember a friend saying as long as his wife shows 'happiness' in honoring him in his presence, whatever she says of "yinmu" behind him, he is not aware of it.

RoyPCain: Allah {SWT} used the Prophet [SA] to teach us, correcting us by what you think are faults of the Messenger [SA]. as illustration of what i mean, correction of mistakes in salat upon making it up, is 2 prostrations before you teslim out. I hope you practice this sunnah?


you seem to criticize the Messenger [SA] and by extension, you might have criticized The One Who sent him [SA]. May Allah help us all and forgive us. Amin.

usermane: Your view is then contrary to the verse. As long as he said "a man like you",then we just have to take it the Prophet aside the revealation he got is just a man like me and you, struggling to attain perfection. I already told you to check Qur'an 22:52,53 out. That a man is a saint with exalted morals doesn't make him free of mistakes or faults. Also you said Muhammad was always a monotheist, right from birth, fine i will dig more on that.

Then mutashabihat verses are not marked in the Qur'an or can you provide us a list of all such verses? Besides, God did not point out those who are grounded in knowledge. Anybody can strive to be knowledgeable enough with due effort to uncover the true meanings of mutashabihat(multiple meaning) verses.

tiarabubu: Tbaba cannot clearly defend his position without saying "Christians too did it". Well, Usermane, a Muslim, has given you a very good answer. And I hope you can learn from him the fine art of focused debates.

I find this debate really interesting because the killing of apostates is one of the major source of friction between Islam and the rest of the world.
It doesn't shock me that in this day and age tbaba will believe in these inhuman, violent and cruel practices - threatening and killing apostates. I cant imagine how confusing a man can be trying to project the benevolence and beauty of Islam and at the same time agreeing that apostates could be threatened and killed.

I have been following Usisky and Usermane for sometime. I intend to research their opinions deeper. interesting......

BetaThings: Who does that in Unilag or in Christianity?
There is a reason for the revelation of the verses. Some people spend years learning them
While some just download the translation of the Qur'an and start commenting
A Christian recently said "we have the English soft copy of the Qur'an, so you Muslims cannot hise anything again" Same person went further to state that "you are reading a wrong meaning into the Bible"
So can we Muslims not also download the Bible and start commenting?

usisky: 2)ADULTERY:
According to your man-made shareeah, married adulterers should be buried and stoned to death, according to the hadith, Muhammad did same. But according to the Teachings of the messenger in the Quran, adultery of any form is only punishable by giving hundred lashes to parties involved(24:2). Are you truly "Obeying" the Messenger?[b] And according to the Hadiths, a goat ate the verse of stonning. [/b]What an Evil Lie!!

tbaba1234: However in an Islamic state, there are certain conditions where conversion is accompanied with acts that could be considered treasonable by the state. The punishment for treason is death.

The act of just conversion is not punishable in most cases, however if that conversion is accompanied by an attempt to discredit Islam or propagate another religion within the islamic state, It is considered treasonable.

The apostacy law came about during the time of the prophet;

In order to discredit Islam, some Jews in medina would accept islam in the day and leave by sunset; They continued to do so until the law was put in place.

Guess how many people did so the next day? None,

Look at the apostacy law this way;

Acts against the nation are considered treason aren't they? what is punishment for treason in 9ja?

The constitution of an Islamic state is based on Islam; If i live in the state, i abide by its laws;

Deep Sight: What makes anyone think that God, if it exists, is, or should be either moral or immoral, in the human sense?

Is God, if it exists, expected to be a human being?

If you say that God does not exist, fine. But if you agree that God, if it exists, would not be a human being, then why ascribe human moral standards to it, or judge it by human morailty?

When a lion kills lion cubs in taking over a pride, do you accuse him of murder and then sentence him to the electric chair? You do not. Why? Because he is not human and has a different moral paradigm, if any at all.

You consider the lion lower than you. You agree that God, if it exists, would be higher than you. If you cannot judge that which is lower based on your human standards of morailty, how can you judge that which is higher based on your human standards of morality.

Think again.

ROSSIKE: Here is your answer: In reality, there is no such thing as "before" and "after". The concept of linear time only applies in our physical world. In absolute reality, where God exists, there is no "past" and "future". Everything occurs simultaneously in the "Eternal Now". It is a difficult concept to grasp from our position, but that is the truth. In fact your life is occurring all at once. Anyone who exits our space-time continuum can easily access and observe any stage of your life, from birth to old age. Like rewinding or fast forwarding a CD. It is only WITHIN the continuum ie when you yourself are a character in the CD, that the sequence of events in it appears to you as "past, present, future" etc, but in reality there is no such thing. It's an illusion. Thanks.

KraticKratus: I wonder how Jesus would have fared if tested for depression and suicidal tendencies.

All through the gospels, we never once saw a passage where it said Jesus smiled or Jesus laughed or Jesus danced. Instead all we had was Jesus wept, Jesus got angry, Jesus got violent, Jesus cursed, Jesus prefered alcohol to water, Jesus was hungry, Jesus got himself killed. etc. etc. All charateristics of chronic depression with suicidal tendencies.

Makes me wonder if Jesus was an atheist.

striktlymi: The source of the existence of man is Energy. Without it there can be no existence and creation would be meaningless. The relevance of Energy goes beyond making the necessary 'power' available to jump-start the process of creation but also include bringing into existence all that there is and holding all in existence. Thus the saying: "Cut off from me, you can do nothing" takes on an added meaning.

Through Energy, we derive our ultimate gift, the gift of life and rational consciousness. Indeed, the theory of evolution did not in itself grant man the ability to arrive at consciousness and rationality...Energy did! And for Energy to be able to give consciousness and rationality, it also MUST possess those qualities. For it takes rationality and a conscious agent to determine what ultimately becomes conscious and rational, and what does not.

Energy is God and the rational consciousness it gives is where we are most like it. We derive our substance from it's very essence, hence our likeness to it. "Ye are gods"...it takes a God to make a god. Humans were not created but made. If man was created then we cannot lay claim to be true gods. It is in the making of man that we see the god-nature in us. For he breathed on "clay" and gave a bit of itself to 'us' hence making his other self.

big deal 007: The problem with your analysis is that you took side before writing this... Did you ask your self why lecturers in Uk could easily agree to call off strike while negotiation continues?... Because they have men of integrity at the helm of affairs of govt. people who will not say a thing and later deny it. Yes, strikes have been since 70's but have you checked if the govt. have ever honored any of the agreement made since the 1st ASUU strike in this country?
Have you seen the whole 2009 agreement or you just saw some parts and concluded it's not the solution?

big deal 007: The problem with your analysis is that you took side before writing this... Did you ask your self why lecturers in Uk could easily agree to call off strike while negotiation continues?... Because they have men of integrity at the helm of affairs of govt. people who will not say a thing and later deny it. Yes, strikes have been since 70's but have you checked if the govt. have ever honored any of the agreement made since the 1st ASUU strike in this country?
Have you seen the whole 2009 agreement or you just saw some parts and concluded it's not the solution?