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Agriculture / Re: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by betabread: 8:10am On Nov 22, 2021
Attit:

Human manure is filled with disease, so must be composted well. And the smell cannot allow local ways to do it. You will just get sick. You need heavy machine to do it. Even livestock poo is dangerous. I pity people who handle them carelessly. And they will even be smiling after correcting them like they are super men.

Yes it's possible to use manure, though, plants manure too will be added. But it requires heavy finance. People who cannot buy drip are the ones who will buy heavy machines for commercial organisms food? And the price of organic food is not worth it. It's basically same as chemically produced food. So, why should anyone bother about it? If the price is like 1.5 to 10 times that of inorganic just like how it is in the US, it makes sense. If you want to eat organic, grow it yourself. I grow all my vegetables organically. I dont buy outside. I produce broilers organically too. Every week, I slaughter four 3-kg chickens that's around 8.5kg after removal of organs and skin.

You dont know how to use fertilizer. Though, compost is sure good. You still need it, but it can be combined well with manure. Even 99% nutrition can be fertilizer. Using fertilizer needs brain. And if using drip, it is even worse. This is what many dont know. And it is one of the reasons many farmers crash after 2 to 3 years of production.

When some farmers have successfully completed first cycle, they cut off everyone who assisted them. Many of them do this to avoid fulfilling their promises. Lol. But they cant return to the people who assited them. This subject about fertilization is vital. See, give such farmer 3 years, everything will crash. To know what to do comes from deep decision making ability, and with a mathematical mind. If I give you a formular for this year, you better not use it again, but ask me. You use it next year and repeat again and again will result in turning your land to a barren land. Many who I gave formulation to, would go and use it again and again. They always crash.

With manure, you can survive with a carefree attitude. Just continue dumping there. But with fertilizer, its a different ball game. When you go to fam, you should get better. But Nigerian farmers get worse, and they eventually quit. I know some guys who are gifted with handling workers. They are so good in it. And this is an area I dont even want to know. Cos I cannot be monitoring and running after adults. For what? But those guys who are successful treat workers like animals they are. Funny, they still crash. Why? They mostly succeed the first time. The subsequent ones are losses. But they arent ready to improve. I always advise them to keep changing sites, and they practise leaving their land to rest for 7 to 10 years like our forefather. Lol.

Sir, if you do soil preparation well, you will use fertilizer very well. When you continue putting the right living organisms in your soil, and you protect them, and then you follow the right dosage and application method, nothing stops you from making huge harvest back to back, year after years to come on the same land.

Dont farm blindly. Always do soil tests. I'm not talking about nutrient tests. A complete test. And it is so expensive. So I dont see how farmers can be consistent here. In the north, they rest land and practise rotation very well. They dont joke with it. But in the south, this is not the case.

Please, if you see a farmer who has been winning back to back for the past 5 to 10 years, kindly let me meet the person. They always crash.

This is my biggest advantage in manure(compost).................... Remove smell and the level of supervision of workers is low.....................a friend of mine lost a farm recently just because he was not there to monitor the placing of fertilizers........................................

can u give me a strategy to carry manure(swine, poultry, cow, Goats, human or even abbatoir) that is cost effective and requires minimal human handling before being dumped on the farm.....

A friend of mine from the north says that is the work for donkeys and camels up there........................... I'm seriously considering raising such farm animals for this purpose.....
Agriculture / Re: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by betabread: 8:43am On Nov 21, 2021
is it possible to grow large acrage with only manure..................possibly human manure compost............. How would you go about it especially handling........................ My experience with compost and manure tells me its better than fertilizers......................... handling is my only issue
Agriculture / Re: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by betabread: 9:26pm On Nov 10, 2021
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Agriculture / Re: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by betabread: 9:25pm On Nov 10, 2021
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Agriculture / Re: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by betabread: 9:21pm On Nov 10, 2021
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Agriculture / Re: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by betabread: 9:18pm On Nov 10, 2021
I would post a set of pictures and would welcome ur criticism....... don’t mince the words

Agriculture / Re: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by betabread: 6:46am On Nov 07, 2021
what are hazera variety answers to the following problems in the south west..............
1.) heavy rainfall(corresponds with season of high prices)
2.)High Temprature( Average temprature when tomato prices are High is 30 daytime and 29 Night time)

I have seen a friend grow tomato with successfuly but unprofittably on his pilot plot with a pletora chemicals at times I wonder if the tomatoes were suffering from AIDS, he never uses the same chemical twice................... Add staking to that and one is tempted to ask "Do i Have to go through all this to make money"...................................

Please tell us how Hazera is coming in to help Farmers...... Tomato headache no be beans o

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Agriculture / Re: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by betabread: 4:58am On Nov 02, 2021
spend a little time and talk about the local heir loom seeds with respect to locations in the sw..i know yield is poor but permit my indulgence
Agriculture / Re: Brainstorm With Me by betabread: 9:21am On Oct 27, 2021
Attit:


I have actually worked with sprinkler, and it's ok, but you must be very good. Using sprinkler is like rainy season farming. You will have high bacterial, fungi, and viral infection. If you knkw how to tackle diseases, you are good to go.

Another reason you should not consider it is that you will waste water during dry season except you habe massive water around. If not, dont go there. If you are pumping water from underground, it will result in a loss. Better close your eyes and buy drip because the cost of running sprinker if you are pumping from underground with submersible pump is high. There are systems where the water level is close to the ground level and you can use mini mud surface pump.

Rain gun is very good if you buy quality. The ones around I see are bad cos they run with low pressure. To irrigate with sprinkler, the water water spread well. And it doesn't spread with low pressure sprinkler. They tend to concentrate on a particular radius line along the circle. The water is not well diffused. Its is a big problem. The one China makes which spreads well are powered with around 12kva. And do you know what that means? Though, it may cover 1 ha or more. Even there are ones that up to 30kva powers. Is it worth it for a small farm? For me to use that, I include central pivot system and mount the run gun at the end so that it can cover even more area. I'm talking of irrigating 50 to 200 ha at once. It may take 12 hours to cover the whole place. So, if looks like the it actually rain..

If the system is not sophisticated, sprinker does not irrigate deep. So, the micro sprinkler where by you set up like 10 units to cover 1 plot may not irrigate deep. So, they are basically for shallow roots system. However, you can still manage them for tomato and cucumbers. Yield will be low, but it will still work. At least if one is doing dry rain season, it will work. As rain will take over later, and then, whenever there is non, sprinker can come up.

Generally speaking, for small farmers, drip is still ok in my opinion; though, if you are good, you can still use sprinker. If you buy a quality Fri which can last 10 years, you are good to go. You dont even need too much problem managing drip. Very easy and direct.

But if you are doing greens, you have no option than to go for sprinkler (lettuce, local green (local spinach, yoruba and Igbo greens except ugu).

Rain gun can cover even 4 plots. It depends on the size you buy. But it causes erosion like I mentioned above.

I think you should mention the crops you want to use it for.

The cost of pumping water from underground is equivalent to opening a pure water factory.............. I have moved closed to a river and I intend farming corn and pepper................. corn on the clay close to the river and pepper on the sand about 80m from the river

Strictly speaking............. I really want to ask if you have met or seen any rain gun at work that covers more than 1acre
Agriculture / Re: Brainstorm With Me by betabread: 3:08pm On Oct 26, 2021
Can you talk about a sprinkler system for me, I dont like drip as i still subscibe to manual weeding........... I have tried rain gun and I find it hard to cover two plots in a sweep............
Family / Re: Why The Fuss Over DNA Testing by betabread: 8:49am On Oct 02, 2021
efficiencie:


Just imagine...one man go dey work like craze to provide first class lifestyle for his family only for the one lazy Nigerian yoot to be working hard on his wife's ass! This madness has to stop abeg.

How can u be providing first class life style for your wife without good daily knacking......

Many men just dey use work dey cover bedroom inadequacies........

You can never cheat Nature
Family / Re: Why The Fuss Over DNA Testing by betabread: 5:34am On Oct 01, 2021
advanceDNA:


U obviously don't know how genetics work...because you And ur wife donate 23chromosomes each doesn't mean you both will equally donate the gene that will code for the faicial structure...
It's a random thing during ontogenesis...

That's why u see sometimes, girls look exactly like their father because sometimes the process selects the father's genes that code for facial phenotypic expression..but mostly, lots of girls look like their mother...

The fact that there is dominant and recessive genes makes the process even less black and white like u are implying
Is it only facial structure u give ur child, my dear don't over flog this.......

U seriously don't know how genetics work

Back in the old days, elders stamp their feet on their children not marrying into some families, u think they don't know what they were doing

Granted a woman might philander but if a product arises from such Union, it is as clear as water


I stand on my ground, Dna test will only help out if close relatives are battling the paternity of a child..... You don't need Dna test to sort out a paternity row between an Isoko landlord and an Fulani tenant
Family / Re: Why The Fuss Over DNA Testing by betabread: 5:24am On Oct 01, 2021
You all are talking from position of weakness, there is no way my close friend can father my child and I won't know, it's a whole different scenario as compared to my wife is sleeping with my close friend

I might not be able to control the fact that my wife might sleep with my close friend but if any fruit arises from that sexual Union, she can never say it's mine

A woman can only lie about the paternity of a child for only 9 months the child is in her womb, after 9 months and she gives birth the power reverses back to u.....

No human being carries only recessive genes in him...... Let's not over flog this issue apples don't give rise to oranges

A man that waits for 23 years after the birth of a child and needs dna test to confirm the paternity of his child is a compound fool and is just looking for a socially acceptable reason to do something stupid

God or Nature never makes mistakes, it's man that does
Family / Re: Why The Fuss Over DNA Testing by betabread: 11:18pm On Sep 30, 2021
efficiencie:


No matter how you try to deceive anyone it will not work...a child may look so much like his or her mother that a man may not suspect that the child is not his if truly the child is not his. It is better to spend 150k, to know the true father of a child, than spend a fortune training and raising another man's child and then one fool comes from nowhere to claim the child as his...churches must as a matter of necessity start requiring DNA test results/declaration of paternity before child dedication. Some fathers may know the child is not theirs but still want to raise the child as theirs such fathers should submit a declaration of paternity otherwise submit DNA test results. Shikena. If you are afraid of this development then you must have a ton of skeletons in your cupboard.

Let's stop reinventing the wheel,a child's genetic make up is split equally, I don't need a dna test to know my dad is my dad, it like using a machine gun to kill a mosquito but if mum had slept with my dad's brother or relative then dna night come in to prove
Family / Why The Fuss Over DNA Testing by betabread: 8:55pm On Sep 30, 2021
With so much uproar or marketing of dna test online, one should really put on his thinking hard and ask simple questions, can nature really make mistake...... In every offspring the man donates half while the woman donates half of the genetic material.......seriously one does not need a thousand dollar test to know if a child is truely his, him must take something resemble him papa....no need for soothe Sayers..... The idea of a dna test only comes to play when close relatives are vieing for the paternity of a child.......


Please let's not fall for this marketing gimmick......... Apples have never given rise to oranges and never will
Agriculture / Re: 500,000 Naira From One Plot Of Land In 90 Days. by betabread: 3:38pm On Sep 22, 2021
abouzaid:
i have decided to dig a well and get a water pumping machine for a start, the rest of the land would be used for cassava and water melon as adviced by someone here. Funny enough, someone is offering to get me a leased land close to a river, maybe i should check it out.
U r definitely a starter, let me burst u a little as I have made d mistake u r making......,
To irrigate corn one needs at least 1mm of rainfall every 4 days to be delivered by any means rain, drip sprinkler or furrow.... Now to cover a hectare multiply area by the rainfall requirement.........10,000,000 liters every 4 days, for an acre u divide by 2.5 to get 400,000 liters....... If u follow food agronomist practices u can reduce this to 100000 liters every 4 days

Before u think of irrigation one should remember this, can ur well deliver 100000liters in 4 days I doubt, so u need to go close to a river, even if ur well can, the deeper the well the higher the cost of pumping up
After this you think of the best way to distribute this water around ur field........

As u can see we have left the realm of agric into the realm of engineering
Agriculture / Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by betabread: 11:00pm On Aug 09, 2021
OluchiDelly:



You guys separated your markets from local/illiterate farmers with local variety inside local baskets.


very good observation...................

those baskets are the unit of measurement in my area....................

how much do those baskets go for ( platinum & Local)
Agriculture / Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by betabread: 7:53pm On Aug 01, 2021
ideepaul:

You don't know alot about cucumbers and you're planning to do tomatoes? I am here to scare you, but lemme be honest; it's difficult for a "successful" tomato farmer to fail in cucumbers if he gets some basic info needed, but it's very easy for a cucumber farmer to fail when switching to tomatoes.
The agrochemicals/materials you will use to manage the tomato farm won't be cheap nor free, so why won't you try to recoup some parts of your investment even if you're learning? Unless you have a good source of money that doesn't have any subheading!
I would personally advise you spent time digesting every info you can find on nairaland, Facebook(I have learnt more than you can imagine from here), YouTube, and any other research papers you can lay your hands on.
Devote time/do trials to improve on your farming capacity, and if you believe in God, pray for his mercies and favour.
Study every farmshot image you see, there is a lot to learn in images than most people can imagine (there is a reason why research bodies/labs don't put images of its work carelessly)
Find a farmer in your locality who is open minded and willing to share information with you,(they can be hard to find, but believe me, there are good people out there)
Start from crops that demand less capital, but have a good ROI, and understand the basics of farming from those easy crops with less challenges,( there's a reason why some crops have higher returns on investment, the risks involved no be here o).

Golden Nuggets, You are a true tech minded farmer........................

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Agriculture / Re: Maize Hybrid Selection (share Your Experiences) by betabread: 1:33pm On Jul 19, 2021
So many Hybrids available but many are plagued by un-even emergence.................... A very scary scenerio a week or two after planting
Agriculture / Maize Hybrid Selection (share Your Experiences) by betabread: 1:31pm On Jul 19, 2021
I am about to select corn to plant this august break in a swampy location and would love to hear from experienced farmers on the hybrids they have planted and the location. I am targeting fresh market and would like to know how many bags(GADO size) they have gotten from an acre with planting practices they followed to achieve their result...................



lets rub minds
Agriculture / Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by betabread: 10:38pm On Jun 17, 2021
has any one planted the local yoruba tomato along side good hybrids........ what is the major difference especially yield, most local farmers that hardly spend a dine keep cultivating this type, If you have taken care of this tomato along side a good hybrid please share the difference
Properties / Submersible Pump Capacity Higher Than 3 Cubic Meter by betabread: 8:25am On Jun 13, 2021
How can one get a submersible pump of maximum 1hp with capacity higher than 3 cubic meter( ie 3000liter per hour)..... I need a submersible pump with capaccity of about 10,000 liters per hour for my constructionand cant seem to get one in the market...............if you have got one please state ur specs and price
Agriculture / Re: 500,000 Naira From One Plot Of Land In 90 Days. by betabread: 4:59pm On Apr 20, 2021
what is the best way of applying manure I bought 200 poultry feed bags of manure preseason and it can't cover more than 3 plots for a 50 plot farm land

What strategies can one use to limit labor cost as I have spent more transporting it than paying for the manure itself

Mind u the poultry is about 10 football pitch away from my farm
Agriculture / Re: 500,000 Naira From One Plot Of Land In 90 Days. by betabread: 9:06am On Feb 02, 2021
Why don't many farmers bury their drip tapes, they look fragile on the surface
Agriculture / Re: 500,000 Naira From One Plot Of Land In 90 Days. by betabread: 11:04pm On Jan 23, 2021
I'm about to start nursery operations to plant rodo pepper(habanero) and plan to install drip irrigation

I have a question to ask I installed a 0.75hp pump that produces 20liters a minute of water, it's a very deep well

What plant population can this support as I want to cultivate 1 acre

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