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epainos:
Let's be more accurate with your analysis. Let's do this. Let's say the same farmer with the same efficiency sells 1 acre fresh and dried corn. Let's do this.

Use the following figures:

Farmer decided to use 70cm by 25cm planting space. Let's assume everything is filled up. So that plant population is approx. 22,000.

Fresh
Harvest: 22,000 fresh cobs.


Dried
Use a variety you know very well. Give us the usual output if 22,000 plant population is used. Tell us the tons 22,000 dried corn will give.


So, compare the two prices. Let's see.

70*25 for me can only be done by machines and I don't have one, d money spent on buying planter would rather go into clearing more land and herbicide


To tell u d truth once you move away from 70*25 maize cultivation starts becoming a little forgiving, as you don't have to get everything perfect

Zwooks:
This is almost 1 Million Naira per ton of maize o

Dry Maize has come down...........

But it was more than that, one thing i know is dat open market pays for small farmers( less than 4hectares)

Selling maize by weight is for big farmers, small farmers should go for unit volume(big seeds)

epainos:
Let's be more accurate with your analysis. Let's do this. Let's say the same farmer with the same efficiency sells 1 acre fresh and dried corn. Let's do this.

Use the following figures:

Farmer decided to use 70cm by 25cm [/b]planting space. Let's assume everything is filled up. So that plant population is approx. 22,000.

[b]Fresh
Harvest: 22,000 fresh cobs.


Dried
Use a variety you know very well. Give us the usual output if 22,000 plant population is used. Tell us the tons 22,000 dried corn will give.


So, compare the two prices. Let's see.

Receipe for disaster if you want to sell fresh cobs except you be maize farm God

betabread:
The maize that was bought from you at 18k a bag sold for 60k bwtween may 24 and may 30 at owode... I peraonally sold maize for 37k a bag in the month of april.......

This is the period for fresh maize glut, use this to understand the nature of agriculture.......

Try to understand what made you obtain a good harvest and shift ur production date to xoinxide with period of high prices

Fresh maize will peak again around october but it will never be rainfed.............

This period u have to be harveating tomato and pepper to make good money but their skill level is extremely high

I believe u should sell and move on, most yellow opv maize varieties yield poorly in terms of dry weight. I pray you recover at least 50% of invested capital

I will eat my advice to you, it is a poor advice for this year

Maize yesterday was sold for 110k per 100kg bag and 10k for dehusked dry maize in 3/4 chicken feed bag

I dont know where d country is going, if maize can be this expensive in the village, i can imagine the price in cities

Worst part of it all is that at the current exchange rate maize is cheaper in nigeria that the current intetnational price

With the current price trajectory of dry maize its a waste if you sell fresh maize especially if you planted a good hybrid that has more seed to stalk ratio

phr33man:
Please do you know anyone that wants to buy white maize . I have over 20 tonnes available. I'm available for serious buyer. Farm location is Ogun state . For more info, 08066325023(calls) 09082250452(WhatsApp)

Oga, maize dat is hot cake as we speak, retail price for a 100kg bag was 85k old maize and 80k new maize as at last 3 weeks i bought....

Oga sell b4 glut comes in, federal govt has relaxed tarrif on imported food items, d way price go fall yakata if things add up will make u regret if u dont sell now

Ayemileto:
Well, like I said in my opening post, this is my first time. So, I'm clueless on how much quantity to expect, and you don't expect me to be selling like I'm doing giveaways with this kind of uncertainty.

All the theoretical maths didn't actually work accurately too. For example, theoretically, A 3 acres land size should take 25KG of maize seeds. But when we planted, we didn't even finish the 20KG bag of seeds (we planted manually. I intend to use a machine to plant next time, so as to address this).

Also, I can see we discussed on another thread about the germination rate. I planted Seedco 510 seed variety, I believed pests removed a good portion of the seeds, even after replanting. you on the other hand suggested the germination rate was poor from your experience.

So, I have to make decisions in my best interests, with all these in mind.

You may be making alternate decisions from the one I'm making, based on the information and experience you have, and that's fine.

My dear sell at this price loss and use this as a lesson, you are gradually understanding maize, u have started speaking the language and are talking of the problems you will solve to make good money from maize

Dont just follow what you read hook line and sinker,
Many things will still need a little tweeking here and there......

There are many obstacles to cross but once you reach promise land maize is blood money

Oyerinde16:
Oga rest, there is absolutely no economics in drying maize ok, at harvest you stack the maize standing for about a week or two on the farm, after than old women or kids she'll the maize in bags, if you can, you get a maize trashing machine that trash the maize, you then proceed to bagging, transportation to store or ware houses...

There is nothing difficult there...

I can't keep arguing with you abeg...
Do you know how many hectare is the farm in pictures attached... You cannot trek it...

If u try this in Ogun state , u are a goner,u are invariably leaving ur fate to chance as one sily 5 minute rain will spoil all ur produce

The climate of Ogun state does not support this except you farm maize with the late rain....

If you must dry better get a powered dryer

Ayemileto:
Smoked maize goes for N200 per one here. It's if you price that they'll give you 3 for 500.

So, if cooking or smoking, you'll sell at N150 per cob at a minimum, and this place is even a local environment, not those big cities.

I do understand the economical aspects though, and thinking about it, I believe that's where the issue comes from.

All the women that came yesterday came from a big city, and their transportation cost (to and fro) should be at least N1,800 per person. If we factor in how much they'll get charged for load (to move from farm to express, and express to city), then the transport costs for each of them can go up to 7k or even more.

None of them bought up to 30K worth of products. In fact, one bought only 16k worth of products and she even had to borrow money to complete the payment.

The issue here is that, this small scale buyers will need to buy extremely cheap themselves, for them to break even. Imagine the woman that buys only 16K spending 7k on transportation, already, her costs already shoots up to 23k (Almost 50% up).

I think, going forward, if I want to sell from farm, then I will probably look out for those that can buy in huge quantities (as they will be able to buy at a better rate, since their transportation will be cheaper). But for now, I will be taking to the market on market days.

Sell at ur farm gate, the problem u have faced producing is already enough..... Instead learn how to produce and secure ur farm when prices are high.....

The heart ache u experience in the period of high glut is a fragment of the heart ache u might experience if ur farm produce are stolen in period of scarcity

Ayemileto:
I'm a first time maize farmer, and my maize farm is finally ready for Harvesting. Someone brought in some market women to harvest and buy today.

The rate at which this women purchased is so ridiculous that if I continue selling like this, I won't make what I spent on the project back, not to talk of profit.

It was actually painful because I didn't discuss price with them before they started harvesting, as I assumed the person who brought them already did the discussion, only for this women to come up with a ridiculous rate after harvesting. They claim there's now excess maize in the market.

Another buyer someone called for me offer even worse prices.

It appears they have a maize seller association, where they fix their buying prices.

I'm currently considering harvesting and taking to the market myself, because I'm sure I should be able to sell at X2 of their buying prices (their buying prices is currently between 40 - 55 Naira per Maize on Average, and I think I should be able to sell at 100 - 120 Naira per Maize at the market)

I can't leave the maize to dry because of the rate of rainfall we're currently experiencing.

Any Clue from experienced farmers?

The maize that was bought from you at 18k a bag sold for 60k bwtween may 24 and may 30 at owode... I peraonally sold maize for 37k a bag in the month of april.......

This is the period for fresh maize glut, use this to understand the nature of agriculture.......

Try to understand what made you obtain a good harvest and shift ur production date to xoinxide with period of high prices

Fresh maize will peak again around october but it will never be rainfed.............

This period u have to be harveating tomato and pepper to make good money but their skill level is extremely high

I believe u should sell and move on, most yellow opv maize varieties yield poorly in terms of dry weight. I pray you recover at least 50% of invested capital

Can Davido rival dangotes daughter wedding??
If dem born am well let him collect d whole rooms in la merdian

Too much noise, Dangote booked all the rooms in lameridian and canceled all shows in dat venue for a month

Now dats money talking

GMO Seeds are dead on arival in Africa because the model for Agriculture in Africa is way different from developed world....

The real farmers in Nigeria are uneducated folks in the villages, they hardly use pesticides and modern machines, most are currenly being dusturbed by bokohram and herds men

Is is this local farmer with 12 children from 3 women that bayer wants to tela maize to through NGOs

Even the extension agents that are meant to distribute the seeds want to sell them

If u stay in cities and want to avoid GMOs, eat only what is in season and store produces only during glut..

The prices of food in africa can never support the price of GMO Seeds, is it d local farmer dat will buy maize seed for 40k, people dat have not bought seedco and oba super 6 ,

How is the country preparing if a full scale war ensues between NATO & USA vs RUSSIA

How often do you spray pesticides on ur okra

Jub101:
Day 48
Flowering and pod formation observed.
Few days to harvesting now

From your experience when does the rain become too much that your soil becomes water logged.......

Most crops planted February are usually profitable

Good morning sir, what strategy are you implementing as you prepare to farm this period, please share

The way prices of chemicals seeds and other inputs are moving up, I hope I am not d only person experiencing it

What bird could b dis

If truely birds are the problem devouring ur seeds,
Just get 3-4 people to patrol ur field probably performing spraying from dawn to dusk for the first 7 days.....

After sprouting and germination, I believe d problem will disappear

mcyemite:
I understand what you saying, normally ending of July/August/early September is well known as glut period of tomato,that's the usual pattern,but I believe it's gonna be different this year....reason being that the scarcity period is already enlonged,local farmers that fill the supply chain that causes glut in August also planted very early because they are the one selling mostly in Lagos now, tomato is not cucumber that grows in 45 days..so were will the glut come from?

Northern farmer are still morning their losses diverting funds to soya,pepper, potatoes etc.

If there will be glut ,I'm forecasting December.

Still exercise cautious optimism, Yoruba tomato is already out and supply continues to mid September when second half of the rain starts, yoruba tomato glut is definitely coming this August break, the signs are already there

How can u get a good production of pineapples during fasting period.....Can u channel the step by step process to it?

That is the only time of the year when fruits command premium prices

An acre farm fully fenced with gate and drip irrigated with plastic mulch, planted with tomato and pepper with stakes....... ........ .....

Big money was sunk into that farm,

If cost will not impede someone, can u plant tomato with only compost from staet to finish and obtain good yield

I went back to recheck my setup, costs made me use a very inefficient pump...... i would upgrade my setup in due time

wuyexzy01:
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My brother ordinary water pump will not work on this raingun o. Anything less than 7hp pump will not even work at all.

Correct

wuyexzy01:
This should give you an insight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYD8NAyvSjs

As i looked at the video, i just pitied thise farmers in the video, I hope they don’t plan to grow vegetables as Evaporation will just waste their efforts

Their set-up looks pitiable, cant help but laugh at them if it’s farming thats their motive.......... Pumping from depth to a raingun

Drip is the answer to what they have on ground

wuyexzy01:
I don't believe you have this type. Not because it's expensive o but I can smell you don't know what you're saying.
It depends on your design.

I wont engage u, but what i can tell u is most pumps will power the raingun, trick is distance from the pump

Nigerian farms will humble the travelling irrigator

wuyexzy01:
You can use this efficiently if you are doing maize on large scale. 10acres upwards. But u need a big pump to achieve the maximum spray length 70m.

I have this raingun and have only achieved 41m on 18nozzle that’s if u are within 10m from the stream, it will fail woefully for 10acres as u will just kill ur pump cos of run time

wuyexzy01:
Funny enough. I read on this forum where one guy was lamenting bitterly and cursing anybody that opposed him regarding irrigation. I'm not sure I can find that thread again. He was saying emphatically that if you want to go into farming and can't do irrigation just don't try it. I was laughing reading his post not knowing my own unfortunate situation was looming as well. Now I know better. The weather is highly highly unpredictable.

No no and no, there are farmers i know that farm effectively with the rains come rain come shine, we just don’t know their secrets.........

Many know d local meterological data by heart, they know soils that are not good for crops say tomato......

I invested into farming and came to know the nature of farming secondarily....... There are people that are born into it though few, come rain come shine they remain profitable..........

Never ever get carried away by any technology, they have their place in the scheme of Agriculture and many technology will fail when confronted with our local conditions

Veddywhite:
I am really confused about nairaland is it only people that have few hundred thousand that are here because I no understand ooo… I know few farms that cultivate different crops on like 30 to 50 acres and they started with 20 And they’re successful now… they own personal cars. The only thing I see on nairaland is 2plot success of tomatoes or cucumber, 2acres failure of tomatoes…. Nah only 2-3plot una Dey get success for here? Must I start from 2 plots? [b]What if I have like 10 - 20 million to start a agribusiness where I am gonna have agronomists- marketers-contracted laborers-security…. [/b]I go con carry 20million for hand con go Dey cultivate 2plots? I have never see a successful 5 acres of tomatoes farm here but I know some and have even see some on Facebook… nah only newbies Dey here? Abi nah fund issue?

This is where extension comes in...... pls respect any farmer that offers to share his experience on this platform as they can help you not loose all your money.....

Yes you can invest that 20million on 2 plots and still make profit......

Many farmers here are all targeting off-season products, this constrains your scale considerably as to scale outwards would need considerable industrial technology and manpower in conjunction with agronomics......

As extension is virtually non-existent in The country, we are left with the scraps seed sellers teach out as extension just so that they can sell their seeds...... Even the seed sellers are afraid of farmers making it the modern way as the farmers would bypass them and go direct to the manufacturers

FarmTech:
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Can u list the equiptment

Its still engine and pump, dis time u buy both separate and weld it together,

Veddywhite:
We are planning on employing an agronomists and marketers that will deal with agents in all major markets in Nigeria.. what do you think

Hmmm, except during glut, tomato sells itself, u really don’t need all d marketers and agent,

Imagine u have 4 hectares of tomato ready.... I bet u wont be able to leave ur farm gate....The fight for ur produce will be helele.....,,

Every body plus ur workers would be strategizing to rob u in broad daylight

FarmTech:
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Yes it waste a lot of fuel if u are pumping the water. But if it is chsnnelling it wont waste fuel.

It would waste a lot of fuel if u use d wrong
Equipment........ All in all u must be ready to spend money in buying the right equipment